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Posted

You actually believe a propaganda video sent out by terrorists and made by terrorists? You will simply believe them because they say so?!?!

If that is so, there is something seriously wrong. US propaganda at least shows some footage and some actual proof to evidence their claims. This, however, is plain bs.

  • Advanced Member
Posted (edited)

LOL

How can you show footage of "not killing civilians" ?

Can your mind make any logical connections?

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This is the closest thing you can get, a video of the resistance going to a school in Ramadi.

In the segment dedicated to the town of Ramadi, hooded men are seen slaying and butchering sheep and then delivering cuts of fresh meat in black plastic bags to children in the street, a helping hand to the poorer families.

In a segment entitled "Lions of the country in the city of Ramadi", a hooded man carrying a microphone and his camera-wielding colleague interview youngsters on the streets. The children contest the US presence and say they are happy that Ramadi remains under the control of the mujahadeen.

Forty six minutes in, the presenter announces the visit by mujahadeen to the schools of Ramadi. The first to welcome the men, again masked, are boys in class 6B, aged 10-11. As well as reciting jihadi songs, the youngsters are asked for an opinion on the US. "Americans kill children" one boy says.

The school appears a modern, solid and well kept structure, albeit spartan; the children are clean, tidily dressed and seem well-nourished.

The next stop is an all-girls class, where headbands outnumber Islamic headscarves, and the young girls appear giggling and far from fearful of their masked interlocutors.

Several girls, aged 8-9, are asked to sing Islamic songs. All classes are given pens, pencils, rulers and erasers.

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  • Veteran Member
Posted
So your saying that all the Sunnis fighting the americans are wahabis?

I don't know that Mohammed Ali is saying that Sis, but that sort of broad brush tarring of the moqawama is the object of the policy of the occupiers.

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Posted
i know your looking at this moh ali, you gonna respond already? cause i'm not.

efff... i'm coming back in an hour.

lol i dont respond much :blush:

Perhaps you can tell me who the resistance are. Are they mostly sunnis who were against saddam and don’t follow the wahabi doctrine?

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Posted
lol i dont respond much :blush:

Perhaps you can tell me who the resistance are. Are they mostly sunnis who were against saddam and don’t follow the wahabi doctrine?

Can you please give a CLEAR and Rational DEFINITION of the wahabi doctrine?

what about the wahabis that think its halaal to kill shia in their mosques?

As for who thinks it is halal to kill the other, what is happening in iraq says a lot.

Posted
Yes the majority of them are that.

But some are shia.

And few did support saddam.

I hope this is the case, but I think it's dream thinking.

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Posted (edited)

^ it's a FACT, and it's only the enemies of the resistance that say otherwise. If you stop listening to the americans for one second, and start listening to the REAL resistance, then you will know who they are.

This is not a dream, this a burden of a truth i have carried with me for the last three years.

And the injustice that these people have to face is just too much to bair, why is it that the heros are so often missunderstood.

The only thing i can say is, that unlike u claim link, most people don't wish it was true. Most people choose to belive what the american lies about them because it makes it easier to collaborate with the americans for their $$$ benefit

It just breaks my heart that these heroic people, have to deal with traitors as disgusting as this.

And yet, to face all they have to face, and have not one person in the world to support them, and yet still fight, that's what makes them so cool in the first place.

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Posted

Im iraqi, why would i want to bomb my people?

would you bomb your neighbours? of course not.

the people who bomb iraqies are not the resistance, everybody knows this. The resistance gain nothing from hurting iraqies, so why would they do it?

use your brain.

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Posted

(salam)

Ive been to albasrah.net many times before. What really bothers me about that website is seeing people holding Saddam banners. Now what kind of a resistance is this? Looks like pro-Saddamists rather than pro-Iraqis.

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Posted

a mujahid shouldn t be scared to show their face infront of the camera.

i could get any lady to sit infront of the camera and tell her to say things infront of the camera that are against the iraqi soldiers. i would also guarantee her total darkness so noone would recognise her and pay her $50 or more. she would obviously do .. any lady would.. exept the ones who have self respect and are not materialistic.

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Posted
Those Iraqi's who advocate collaborating with the americans and doing what they want state that it is the 'lesser of two evils' - it comes as no surprise that iraqis who hate the occupation and have seen all the horrible bloodshed that resulted from it, support saddam as 'lesser of two evils' aswell.

Basically, between the two there is no difference in mentality except what side of the fence they are standing on.

Great explanation!! Bravo ... How do you justify this in your mind again?

^ it's a FACT, and it's only the enemies of the resistance that say otherwise. If you stop listening to the americans for one second, and start listening to the REAL resistance, then you will know who they are.

This is not a dream, this a burden of a truth i have carried with me for the last three years.

And the injustice that these people have to face is just too much to bair, why is it that the heros are so often missunderstood.

The only thing i can say is, that unlike u claim link, most people don't wish it was true. Most people choose to belive what the american lies about them because it makes it easier to collaborate with the americans for their $$$ benefit

It just breaks my heart that these heroic people, have to deal with traitors as disgusting as this.

And yet, to face all they have to face, and have not one person in the world to support them, and yet still fight, that's what makes them so cool in the first place.

I think otherwise. I think the resistance has been given money to cause chaos and make the life of Iraqis difficult.

it serves the Saudi purpose well cause they hate shias. Just today they were in favour of US bombing Iran until its gone. So if we look at all the captures Jihadist we discover they were foreign fighters from Sunni countries, Countries that are anti - rafidhas.

BTW i am listening to the Jihadis. I listen by their actions everyday cause we all know actions speak louder then words

The Wahhabis/Salafis have been born for this very same purpose. They are the only ones benefitting too from the $$$$. So stop slanging excuses cause its getting very boring

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Posted (edited)

^ LOL

Resistance given money??? Is that why they are walking around in pyjammas flip flops and using 30 year old kalashnikovs?

Get a brain, and try to gather some information before you open your mouth.

Your a waste of breath and bandwith.

mo.

I saw that pic, and it's left over from the begining of the war, and it wasn't resistance fighters holding it, it was just some civilian

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Posted
^ LOL

Resistance given money??? Is that why they are walking around in pyjammas flip flops and using 30 year old kalashnikovs?

Get a brain, and try to gather some information before you open your mouth.

Your a waste of breath and bandwith.

mo.

I saw that pic, and it's left over from the begining of the war, and it wasn't resistance fighters holding it, it was just some civilian

So in other words people in armani jeans and versace shirts are the only ones with money in their pocket?

Has your brain gone on a permanant vacation?

Why is that all the captured fighters are not from Iraq? Saudia is completely Anti-Shia and has enough money to throw around in this cause. Get a hold of your warped brain, You fantasies are seriously getting childish now.

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Why is that all the captured fighters are not from Iraq

Actually sweety, of the ten thousand prisoners in abu gharib, only a few hundred are non iraqi-arabs, and those have lived in iraq for most of their lives.

And off All the fighters captures, about 3 percent of them are not iraqi.

note, out of 10 thousand people held in abu gharib, only a few hundred are non iraqi arabs.

http://www.newz.in/large35.asp?catid=25&number=3379

http://aol.countrywatch.com/aol_wire.asp?v...amp;UID=1469995

WASHINGTON, April 15 (UPI)

quote: a senior U.S. military official said Friday in Baghdad.

Still, the vast majority of insurgents are Iraqis.

"We've got, oh, roughly 10,800 -- give or take -- prisoners. I think there are like 357, 358, something like that, third-country nationals, some of whom have been in Iraq for many, many years," the senior official said.

However, of the more than 1000 men between the ages of 15 and 55 who were captured in intense fighting in Falluja last week, just 15 are

confirmed foreign fighters, General George Casey, the top US ground

commander in Iraq, said on Monday. http://olm.blythe-systems.com/pipermail/nytr/

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10076523/

By Jonathan Finer

The Washington Post

Updated: 12:40 a.m. ET Nov. 17, 2005

"They come across the border and use Tall Afar as a base to launch attacks across northern Iraq," Col. H.R. McMaster, commander of the Army's 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment, which led the assault, said in a briefing the day before it began.

• More Iraq news

When the air and ground operation wound down in mid-September, nearly 200 insurgents had been killed and close to 1,000 detained, the military said at the time. But interrogations and other analyses carried out in recent weeks showed that none of those captured was from outside Iraq. According to McMaster's staff, the 3rd Armored Cavalry last detained a foreign fighter in June.

....

The relative importance of the foreign component of Iraq's two-year-old insurgency, estimated at between 4 and 10 percent of all guerrillas.....

"Both Iraqis and coalition people often exaggerate the role of foreign infiltrators and downplay the role of Iraqi resentment in the insurgency," said Anthony H. Cordesman, a former Pentagon official now at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, who is writing a book about the Iraqi insurgency.

‘Blaming outsiders’

"It makes the government's counterinsurgency efforts seem more legitimate, and it links what's going on in Iraq to the war on terrorism," he continued. "When people go out into battle, they often characterize enemies in the most negative way possible. Obviously there are all kinds of interacting political prejudices they can bring out by blaming outsiders."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1576666,00.html

Report attacks 'myth' of foreign fighters

Brian Whitaker and Ewen MacAskill

Friday September 23, 2005

The Guardian

The US and the Iraqi government have overstated the number of foreign fighters in Iraq, "feeding the myth" that they are the backbone of the insurgency, an American thinktank says in a new report.

Foreign militants - mainly from Algeria, Syria, Yemen, Sudan, Egypt and Saudi Arabia - account for less than 10% ( 4-10 % said the report) of the estimated 30,000 insurgents, according to the Washington-based Centre for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS).

The report came as President Bush said a pullout of US forces would embolden America's enemies, allowing the Jordanian-born terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and Osama bin Laden "to dominate the Middle East and launch more attacks on America and other free nations".

So PLEASE , if you have any "logic" in you at all, GO AND DO SOME RESEARCH, before you spit your filthy lies at us again.

understand??

ESPECIALLY if you knew anything about history you'd know it's the same tired lies being used over and over again.

During the US war on Vietnam, we

were treated to similar wild tales about how the bad "Red Chinese" were

actually behind the overwhelming Vietnamese resistance against US

imperialism. The Vietnamese, we were told, really supported the US and

its puppet governments, and were only cooperating with the NLF because

they were "terrorized" by outside agitators from the North.-NY Transfer]

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Posted (edited)

Let me start by asking you 1 question which i am surprised no one has asked yet

Do you go around posting all kinds of retarded sources when it suits your purpose or do you actually believe them when it destroys everything you have mumbled so far?

Make sure you answer this

Judging by your post for the past few months you name should be in the dictionary right by the definition of Hypocrite!

I am real glad to see you know how to use google, Sadly you are not the only one. Here is what i found too in just 5 mins .

BTW: your Gaurdian story has been repeated by christian news watch too or vice versa.

Now here we go

You said

note, out of 10 thousand people held in abu gharib, only a few hundred are non iraqi arabs.

http://www.newz.in/large35.asp?catid=25&number=3379

http://aol.countrywatch.com/aol_wire.asp?v...amp;UID=1469995

WASHINGTON, April 15 (UPI)

quote: a senior U.S. military official said Friday in Baghdad.

Still, the vast majority of insurgents are Iraqis.

"We've got, oh, roughly 10,800 -- give or take -- prisoners. I think there are like 357, 358, something like that, third-country nationals, some of whom have been in Iraq for many, many years," the senior official said.

Both site are dead with incorrect links. possibility i might need an account for the latter one.

However, of the more than 1000 men between the ages of 15 and 55 who were captured in intense fighting in Falluja last week, just 15 are

confirmed foreign fighters, General George Casey, the top US ground

commander in Iraq, said on Monday. http://olm.blythe-systems.com/pipermail/nytr/

Are you kidding me!! directing me to a news paper bank!! i am not doing your work point me to the right direction further on

During the US war on Vietnam, we

were treated to similar wild tales about how the bad "Red Chinese" were

actually behind the overwhelming Vietnamese resistance against US

imperialism. The Vietnamese, we were told, really supported the US and

its puppet governments, and were only cooperating with the NLF because

they were "terrorized" by outside agitators from the North.-NY Transfer]

Both of these are from a year and a 8 months ago!!! from the same article

BTW for our readers here is the date from the above garbage quote

nytr at olm.blythe-systems.com nytr at olm.blythe-systems.com

Thu Nov 18 12:55:40 EST 2004

So PLEASE , if you have any "logic" in you at all, GO AND DO SOME RESEARCH, before you spit your filthy lies at us again.

understand??

ESPECIALLY if you knew anything about history you'd know it's the same tired lies being used over and over again.

I think we are all checking the "LEVEL OF YOUR RESEARCH" you dirtbag

Let me ask you this were you dropped on your head when you were a kid or is this some sort of mental defeciency?

QUOTE

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10076523/

By Jonathan Finer

The Washington Post

Updated: 12:40 a.m. ET Nov. 17, 2005

"They come across the border and use Tall Afar as a base to launch attacks across northern Iraq," Col. H.R. McMaster, commander of the Army's 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment, which led the assault, said in a briefing the day before it began.

• More Iraq news

When the air and ground operation wound down in mid-September, nearly 200 insurgents had been killed and close to 1,000 detained, the military said at the time. But interrogations and other analyses carried out in recent weeks showed that none of those captured was from outside Iraq. According to McMaster's staff, the 3rd Armored Cavalry last detained a foreign fighter in June.

....

The relative importance of the foreign component of Iraq's two-year-old insurgency, estimated at between 4 and 10 percent of all guerrillas.....

"Both Iraqis and coalition people often exaggerate the role of foreign infiltrators and downplay the role of Iraqi resentment in the insurgency," said Anthony H. Cordesman, a former Pentagon official now at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, who is writing a book about the Iraqi insurgency.

‘Blaming outsiders’

"It makes the government's counterinsurgency efforts seem more legitimate, and it links what's going on in Iraq to the war on terrorism," he continued. "When people go out into battle, they often characterize enemies in the most negative way possible. Obviously there are all kinds of interacting political prejudices they can bring out by blaming outsiders."

YAWN.. .Link is down

I Guess we are done with your research now?? Bravo you almost had me convinced... NOT!!

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Posted

Now here are some more facts

I will start by using the source Syrian Sister agrees with

Iraq as Basic Training Camp:

sent by Simon McGuinness

Reuters via The Irish Times - Oct 3, 2005

http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/world/200...27FR03IRAQ.html

Foreign fighters leave Iraq to extend campaign

by Michael Howard in Baghdad

IRAQ: Foreign fighters who have used Iraq as a combat training ground

are returning home with plans to mount similar attacks throughout the

Muslim world, according to Iraq's interior minister.

US officials acknowledge that since the invasion in March 2003, Iraq has

become a magnet for militant Islamists eager to fight American soldiers

in the name of jihad. News that some of these fighters are taking their

new-found fighting skills back home are alarming security experts.

Though foreign fighters are thought to account for only a small

percentage of the insurgents in Iraq, they are believed to be behind

many attacks and atrocities. Iraqi leaders have urged fellow Arab

governments, including Jordan, Syria and Saudi Arabia, to do more to

help disrupt the supply lines of militants into the country.

Mr Jabr said hundreds of foreign militants had already left Iraq. They

now numbered fewer than 1,000 compared with up to 3,000 six months ago.

http://tania.blythe-systems.com/pipermail/...003/024750.html

For an honorable person this case should be closed right here but knowing the nature of Syrian lets continue further

Now we use another source that Syrian likes. MSNBC

By Lisa Myers & the NBC Investigative Unit

Updated: 7:39 p.m. CT June 20, 2005

Lisa Myers

Senior investigative correspondent

An NBC News analysis of hundreds of foreign fighters who died in Iraq over the last two years reveals that a majority came from the same country as most of the 9/11 hijackers — Saudi Arabia.

Among the suicide bombers was Ahmed al-Ghamdi, a one-time medical student and son of a Saudi diplomat. In December 2004, he climbed into a truck in Mosul and blew himself up.

On an Internet video, another Saudi says goodbye to his mother, then drives an ambulance full of explosives into a building.They are among more than 400 militants from 21 countries whose deaths were celebrated on Islamic Web sites over the last two years.

"By far the nationality that comes up over and over again is Saudi Arabia," says Evan Kohlmann, an NBC News terrorism expert.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8293410/

I guess we have enough material to gauge Syrian Sister "LEVEL OF RESEARCH AND FILTHY LIES"

Now we move to a much recent source

US: Most foreign fighters in Iraq are from EgyptPublished: Friday, 30 June, 2006, 12:55 PM Doha Time

BAGHDAD: The US military said yesterday that it has several hundred foreign fighters in custody in Iraq and that most of them come from Egypt, followed by Syria, Sudan and Saudi Arabia.

“We have several hundred foreign fighters in captivity at this point of time and the greatest number come out of Egypt,” spokesman Major General William Caldwell told reporters.

“The top four countries are - the first is Egypt, followed by Syria, then Sudan and Saudi Arabia.”

The US military has already claimed that the new Al Qaeda in Iraq chief is Egyptian Abu Ayub al-Masri, saying he took over from Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, killed in an US air strike on June 7.

The military believes Masri is the same person as Abu Hamza al-Muhajer, named by an Al Qaeda-led coalition as Zarqawi’s successor.

Caldwell also said at least “57 foreign fighters were killed by Iraqi and US forces in the month of June” in a series of nation-wide operations.

http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/arti...e_id=37&par

Now we readers should ask ourselves where was Zarqawi from? Where is the new Al-Qaeeda leader from? YAWN see how obvious my point is???

Its clear cut and dry! If that is not enough then maybe Syrian Sister can name a couple of countries where minority is a threat to majority!!

We Shias are like pipsqueak in every country where we are minority and Sunnis in Majority. How in this blue earth Sunni being Minority are threating and pushing the Shia majority around? Where is the arms coming, Muscle and money?? Its all there

Now judging by SS previous post she is gonna come back saying everything is a myth she is right blah blah blah wah wah... Let me make something clear to you Syrian Sister dont dare talk to me in a down kind of a way, I have no reservations in taking the garbage out

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