Romantic novels

[Sehnsucht]

Salaams...

There's a Pakistani Shia doctor by the name of Ikram Abidi who writes amazing Islamic romance novels. Yes, you read correctly: Islamic romances.

One of his novels is entitled 'Hijaab Waali', for example, and is a literary work that encouraged me to become a better Muslim and promotes and glorifies hijaabi women, and wipes out notions of superficiality and lust...

It's about a young Shia man named Aariz who was once upon a time superficial, arrogant, and unreligious, and fell in love with and wanted to marry a beautiful Sunni girl named Komal primarily because of her looks and 'modernisms'; and she too liked him for the same reasons. However, his Shia parents reject the idea of the girl for good reasons explained & rationalized in the story. Instead, Aariz's mother Sadia and him go to visit Sadia's cousin and childhood friend Abbas, who is dying of tuberculosis, and as his dying wish, Abbas asks Aariz to marry his extremely religious, shy hijaabi daughter Zeest. Just before Abbas's death, a quick nikaah is performed and Aariz is absolutely reluctant, on his mother and uncle's persistence, to marry her.

Therefore, forced by Abbas's dying wishes and his mother's threats, he marries Zeest... But is extremely mean and abusive to her, considering she 'ruined' his 'plans' of marrying Komal. However, his wife remains steadfast and patient, and wishing only to see her husband's happiness, gives him her consent to let him have a second marriage, this one to Komal; who doesn't know about the marriage to Zeest yet.

When Komal finds out that he is already married, she is extremely enraged and demands that he leave her. Bound by his mother's requirements, however, Aariz can't... And with time, has found that he is slowly but surely beginning to fall in love with the simple hijaabi chastity and beauty Zeest possesses, though he tries to vehemently deny it to himself.

As her anger escalates, Komal eventually gets wildly jealous after getting a clue that Aariz is beginning to love Zeest and leaves him...

And, heart-broken, Aariz's frustrations escalate. So then, what does our hero do...?

He shoots his hijaabi rose for 'ruining his life'.

...But he's clinically insane by this point, so that explains it a bit. :angel:

Fast forward a few years, after he is released from the hospital and has gotten better through treatments...

Aariz Ali becomes an extraordinarily religious man who has long since realized the error of his ways... He also realizes that he was completely, head-over-heels in love with the beautiful Zeest to an almost incomprehensible degree, but now she's gone.

He proceeds to spend a lonely life in the mansion they shared, and becomes an Islamic poet. He reads poems about his wife's beautiful hijaab, the Qur'an, etc. He gains extreme fame and fortune, but turns down interviews and stardom and lives a very secretive life, refusing to let any of his raving fans pine over his details.

That story is simply... Amazing. :cry: It's a fabulous online book translated into multiple languages, including English, and is highly acclaimed.

Here's an excerpt from Hijaab Waali; these are the first paragraphs of the book:

I still don't believe that I've lost her forever.

Perhaps I didn't deserve her. She was such a nice lady, such a wonderful female. I know that I can find many girls in this world, even more beautiful and more attractive than she was. But no girl can fit into that specific portion of my heart that has been reserved only for her now.

What shall I call her?

Aggressive? Absolutely not. She was so patient, so calm.

Hard and strict? Never. She was so flexible, so adaptable, very compromising too.

Rude and proud? No way. She was so understanding, friendly, and sympathetic.

Extremist? Impossible. She sure knew her boundaries and limits.

No, there's nothing I can call her. I can't give her a single, sole name.

She was truly wonderful, capable of doing miraculous wonders.

She understood me. I don't think that anyone could ever understand me like the way she did. She made me realize myself, arranging my life's book neatly into this world's shelf. It's only because of her that I am who I am.

I will not say that she was perfect, but she was the best one I ever could have hoped for, not only because she had a tremendous amount of unconditional love, but because she shaped who I am today, my qualities and characteristics. She was the one who made me beautiful in every sense. The kind you didn't see much anymore. She was simple but yet so mysterious. She was so familiar but ah, at the same time, so strange too.

In the paths of life, sometimes, you find faces, which you can't forget ever, no matter how much you try. So, how can I forget that fairy-face that'd let me know the reality of life? Those lake-like deep eyes which, when low, used to bring night and when high, were the source of daylight. She was the poetry of a born poet. Flowers needed her to grow; autumn required her to become spring.

She definitely was a dream girl, a beautiful scene of my sleep. But she was a reality too. A reality, which creates history. A reality, you can't imagine your life without whom. She was so alive. One, who could give you life in one glance. There was just nothing else like her at all. It was her attitude toward life that made her uniquely captivating. She had a quick intelligence and a lively curiosity about anything she happened to encounter.

And then... she was gone when I needed her the most. She came and she left. But she didn't leave alone; she had my life too.

I'll never understand one thing, and that is, why those times pass so quickly when you're happy? And why those times take so long to pass when you're sad?

Did I love her?

He closed his eyes to minimize the intense expression of pain. Then, after taking few deep breaths, he began to write once again.

I will not talk about my dark, ill past. But for sure, at present, her love is the greatest present for me.

I love her not only for what she was but for what she was when she was with me.

I love her not only for what she had made of herself but also for what she was making of me.

I love her for the part of me that she brought out.

"Did 'she' love me?"

Yes, certainly. No other woman will ever love me like the way she did. No one else will ever stand by me like her.

Finishing his last word, he stopped writing, took off his fine, neat, half-framed spectacles and blew off a long, cold, lonely sigh. Tipping his head back on the headrest of the easy chair, he finally closed his eyes.

"You look good in glasses." Her whisper was very near.

"Huh?" He turned quickly to locate the source. Not here and there, she was no where. He was alone in his room. Memories were like endless rain for him. Once began, they would never stop. As her voice faded with his consciousness, he thought he felt a tear strike his cheek.

The wind was particularly cold and wet, even for December in Karachi. Taking a deep drag on his cigarette, he stood up from his place and opened the side window. Sharp and cold wave of wind hit him full in the face, a stream of air with strong noise of sea waves nearby.

Thank God for the wind! It broke the silence.

Through the huge plain glass window, he stared at the beach of white sand that seemed almost to glow in the moonlight. Long white breakers came out of the night and broke on the shore. Far out at sea, mysterious offshore lights winked and moved steadily along.

With a long breath, he smelled the sea-scented air and closed his lashes. As soon as his anatomical eyes closed, his imaginative eyes opened and from the fantastic window of imagination, she came in front of him, like always. Smiling! Everything about her was absolutely beautiful. Even her appearance, he thought.

What to say about her external beauty and looks.

If beauty is limited, then she was its final limit.

Smiles were not very usual feature of her personality.

"Because of myself." He thought painfully. "Yes I didn't give her much chance to smile. Rude, brutal, animal-like, I was like a sharp knife for her."

"You act as if you were God Almighty, but I know what you're really like! You're a ... a... Bad-mannered, ill-tempered ... savage!" His own conscience showed him the mirror.

Although he had not seen her smiling a lot still he thought that flowers used to bloom when she smiled. Yes, her smile was as innocent as a young flower bud, as fresh as a sweet and scented morning breeze.

Apart from her smiles, he always wondered what was so "different" in her appearance? She sure had something unique and powerful in her face that always differentiated her from the other women. Only now he found out what made her face and her personality so different and impressive. Yes, it was that particular glory, that specific charisma, which comes only on the faces of those women who have strong character and firm principles. Who never compromise on their beliefs and who observe…

He couldn't think more. Such a shiny, bright 'noor' she had on her face.

Her hair was the first cloudiness, which appears before rain. Her long, shiny locks were the source of comfort for the desperate and tired traveler.

The musical ringing of the phone in his room dispersed his thoughts. With slow, tired steps, he reached and picked up the receiver.

"Yes?" While holding the cordless receiver in one hand, he used the other one to take his remaining cigarette to his dark lips.

"How's my good boy today?" A soft, caring male voice came from the other side.

"Assalaam O alaikum Maulana uncle." He sighed with relief as he heard his teacher's voice and then said, "I was actually going to call you in few minutes. I have some good news for you." Not just his face, even his voice was smiling. "Thankfully, your prayers got colors."

"You made my day son. I have waited so long for this very day." Maulana uncle's voice became shaky with emotion.

"Dr. Waris has called me tomorrow for my final check up. He said that hopefully they would issue the mental health clearance certificate for me this time." He said, leaning against the railing of the upstairs terrace. The salt breeze rippled gently through his dark black hair.

"And what about police matters?"

"One of my friends talked to D.I.G. Crimes, he has assured us that there're no more charges remaining on me now. My file has been closed. The police does accept the fact that whatever happened was something I did when I was not mentally normal." He finished his long sentence. "I'd never forgive myself ever though."

"Yes. Why not, thanks to Allah, you're normal now, physically as well as mentally." Maulana uncle was as supportive as ever. "It's been a long way though."

"Uncle, I don't believe that it's been more than two years now." He took a long breath. "The loss is unbearable however."

Maulana uncle remained silent this time.

"Uncle, tell me. Tell me, why does it hurt to love someone?"

From the other side, he heard a soft, sober laughter.

"People don't offer thanks when they're happy. Yet they object when they're hurt."

" I… I will be thankful this time." He sobbed. "Sometimes, I just want my love back uncle. Although I know it's impossible. Those who have gone forever, never come back." He murmured painfully. "And please, not this time. I don't want to get hurt again. "

"Your love was meant to be…

"If it meant to be, why did I lose her?" His voice became loud, as he cut in.

"You didn't lose her...I'd say you let her go!" Maulana uncle replied. "And that was your mistake."

He did not reply. He had nothing to say.

"How's your poetry going?"

"My only hobby these days." He laughed emptily. "Yes I wrote some thing new."

"And what I could be?"

"My new poem, want to hear?" He asked, resting against the railing again and gazing far out to sea.

"Why not."

Hearing his response, he set his neatly framed glasses back on his nose and opened his diary again.

"Alright, here it is…I have dedicated this to her, the same person for whom I wrote it. By the way the title is 'Thank you'.

"Hmm, sounds interesting. Let's begin now."

He closed his eyes, tipped his head back and began to read the poem in a soft, low voice but with an impressive accent and perfection.

My love...

I am a different person,

A better person

since we first met

your honesty helped me

to see my weaknesses,

and your support helped me

to turn them into strengths.

Thank you,

Thank you for being my real, true friend

for not saying the things

you thought I wanted to hear,

but for saying the things

I needed to know.

You're one of the few people

I trusted when you told me

that I've done well,

because you are one of the few

who will tell me

when I could do better.

You challenged me

to be the best I could be...

by accepting and appreciating me,

you helped me

learn to accept

and appreciate myself.

Thank you for being my teacher!

I was helpless, you supported me

I was restless, you comforted me

I was ignorant, you acknowledged me

Thank you…

And now, I know, you're not with me,

But know what, you're still in me

Thank you for being my 'every thing.'

[Rawshni]

Well it quiet logical if you think about it!

Yes, and carrying the logic further we can cross a few milestones and wade into the jabr o qadr issue per se . . . :angel:

If one wants to sin, one sins. Period.

[leila_11]

^

Dayem.

The idea of Shaytaan sitting at table, burning the midnight oil penning romantic novels designed to corrupt the morals of the saintly and the not so saintly is absolutely hilarious. Loved it . . . Kudos

Rawshni... for sure it dosent make sense shaytan sitting at a table writing romance novels instead of laughin like a joker..lol u wud have just refuted the point out...when we say satan is our open enemy and we should keep away from reading such novels..it is because when these writers are writing shaytan(evil) comes to their mind and inspires them to write [Edited Out] so as to influence people towards haram when they read these novels!!

Edited July 14, 2006 by leila_11

[Rawshni]

Wow.

Now that real righteous, oops, self-righteous thinking . . .

Edited July 14, 2006 by Rawshni

[leila_11]

Salaams...

There's a Pakistani Shia doctor by the name of Ikram Abidi who writes amazing Islamic romance novels. Yes, you read correctly: Islamic romances.

One of his novels is entitled 'Hijaab Waali', for example, and is a literary work that encouraged me to become a better Muslim and promotes and glorifies hijaabi women, and wipes out notions of superficiality and lust...

It's about a young Shia man named Aariz who was once upon a time superficial, arrogant, and unreligious, and fell in love with and wanted to marry a beautiful Sunni girl named Komal primarily because of her looks and 'modernisms'; and she too liked him for the same reasons. However, his Shia parents reject the idea of the girl for good reasons explained & rationalized in the story. Instead, Aariz's mother Sadia and him go to visit Sadia's cousin and childhood friend Abbas, who is dying of tuberculosis, and as his dying wish, Abbas asks Aariz to marry his extremely religious, shy hijaabi daughter Zeest. Just before Abbas's death, a quick nikaah is performed and Aariz is absolutely reluctant, on his mother and uncle's persistence, to marry her.

Therefore, forced by Abbas's dying wishes and his mother's threats, he marries Zeest... But is extremely mean and abusive to her, considering she 'ruined' his 'plans' of marrying Komal. However, his wife remains steadfast and patient, and wishing only to see her husband's happiness, gives him her consent to let him have a second marriage, this one to Komal; who doesn't know about the marriage to Zeest yet.

When Komal finds out that he is already married, she is extremely enraged and demands that he leave her. Bound by his mother's requirements, however, Aariz can't... And with time, has found that he is slowly but surely beginning to fall in love with the simple hijaabi chastity and beauty Zeest possesses, though he tries to vehemently deny it to himself.

As her anger escalates, Komal eventually gets wildly jealous after getting a clue that Aariz is beginning to love Zeest and leaves him...

And, heart-broken, Aariz's frustrations escalate. So then, what does our hero do...?

He shoots his hijaabi rose for 'ruining his life'.

...But he's clinically insane by this point, so that explains it a bit. :angel:

Fast forward a few years, after he is released from the hospital and has gotten better through treatments...

Aariz Ali becomes an extraordinarily religious man who has long since realized the error of his ways... He also realizes that he was completely, head-over-heels in love with the beautiful Zeest to an almost incomprehensible degree, but now she's gone.

He proceeds to spend a lonely life in the mansion they shared, and becomes an Islamic poet. He reads poems about his wife's beautiful hijaab, the Qur'an, etc. He gains extreme fame and fortune, but turns down interviews and stardom and lives a very secretive life, refusing to let any of his raving fans pine over his details.

That story is simply... Amazing. :cry: It's a fabulous online book translated into multiple languages, including English, and is highly acclaimed.

Here's an excerpt from Hijaab Waali; these are the first paragraphs of the book:

I still don't believe that I've lost her forever.

Perhaps I didn't deserve her. She was such a nice lady, such a wonderful female. I know that I can find many girls in this world, even more beautiful and more attractive than she was. But no girl can fit into that specific portion of my heart that has been reserved only for her now.

What shall I call her?

Aggressive? Absolutely not. She was so patient, so calm.

Hard and strict? Never. She was so flexible, so adaptable, very compromising too.

Rude and proud? No way. She was so understanding, friendly, and sympathetic.

Extremist? Impossible. She sure knew her boundaries and limits.

No, there's nothing I can call her. I can't give her a single, sole name.

She was truly wonderful, capable of doing miraculous wonders.

She understood me. I don't think that anyone could ever understand me like the way she did. She made me realize myself, arranging my life's book neatly into this world's shelf. It's only because of her that I am who I am.

I will not say that she was perfect, but she was the best one I ever could have hoped for, not only because she had a tremendous amount of unconditional love, but because she shaped who I am today, my qualities and characteristics. She was the one who made me beautiful in every sense. The kind you didn't see much anymore. She was simple but yet so mysterious. She was so familiar but ah, at the same time, so strange too.

In the paths of life, sometimes, you find faces, which you can't forget ever, no matter how much you try. So, how can I forget that fairy-face that'd let me know the reality of life? Those lake-like deep eyes which, when low, used to bring night and when high, were the source of daylight. She was the poetry of a born poet. Flowers needed her to grow; autumn required her to become spring.

She definitely was a dream girl, a beautiful scene of my sleep. But she was a reality too. A reality, which creates history. A reality, you can't imagine your life without whom. She was so alive. One, who could give you life in one glance. There was just nothing else like her at all. It was her attitude toward life that made her uniquely captivating. She had a quick intelligence and a lively curiosity about anything she happened to encounter.

And then... she was gone when I needed her the most. She came and she left. But she didn't leave alone; she had my life too.

I'll never understand one thing, and that is, why those times pass so quickly when you're happy? And why those times take so long to pass when you're sad?

Did I love her?

He closed his eyes to minimize the intense expression of pain. Then, after taking few deep breaths, he began to write once again.

I will not talk about my dark, ill past. But for sure, at present, her love is the greatest present for me.

I love her not only for what she was but for what she was when she was with me.

I love her not only for what she had made of herself but also for what she was making of me.

I love her for the part of me that she brought out.

"Did 'she' love me?"

Yes, certainly. No other woman will ever love me like the way she did. No one else will ever stand by me like her.

Finishing his last word, he stopped writing, took off his fine, neat, half-framed spectacles and blew off a long, cold, lonely sigh. Tipping his head back on the headrest of the easy chair, he finally closed his eyes.

"You look good in glasses." Her whisper was very near.

"Huh?" He turned quickly to locate the source. Not here and there, she was no where. He was alone in his room. Memories were like endless rain for him. Once began, they would never stop. As her voice faded with his consciousness, he thought he felt a tear strike his cheek.

The wind was particularly cold and wet, even for December in Karachi. Taking a deep drag on his cigarette, he stood up from his place and opened the side window. Sharp and cold wave of wind hit him full in the face, a stream of air with strong noise of sea waves nearby.

Thank God for the wind! It broke the silence.

Through the huge plain glass window, he stared at the beach of white sand that seemed almost to glow in the moonlight. Long white breakers came out of the night and broke on the shore. Far out at sea, mysterious offshore lights winked and moved steadily along.

With a long breath, he smelled the sea-scented air and closed his lashes. As soon as his anatomical eyes closed, his imaginative eyes opened and from the fantastic window of imagination, she came in front of him, like always. Smiling! Everything about her was absolutely beautiful. Even her appearance, he thought.

What to say about her external beauty and looks.

If beauty is limited, then she was its final limit.

Smiles were not very usual feature of her personality.

"Because of myself." He thought painfully. "Yes I didn't give her much chance to smile. Rude, brutal, animal-like, I was like a sharp knife for her."

"You act as if you were God Almighty, but I know what you're really like! You're a ... a... Bad-mannered, ill-tempered ... savage!" His own conscience showed him the mirror.

Although he had not seen her smiling a lot still he thought that flowers used to bloom when she smiled. Yes, her smile was as innocent as a young flower bud, as fresh as a sweet and scented morning breeze.

Apart from her smiles, he always wondered what was so "different" in her appearance? She sure had something unique and powerful in her face that always differentiated her from the other women. Only now he found out what made her face and her personality so different and impressive. Yes, it was that particular glory, that specific charisma, which comes only on the faces of those women who have strong character and firm principles. Who never compromise on their beliefs and who observe…

He couldn't think more. Such a shiny, bright 'noor' she had on her face.

Her hair was the first cloudiness, which appears before rain. Her long, shiny locks were the source of comfort for the desperate and tired traveler.

The musical ringing of the phone in his room dispersed his thoughts. With slow, tired steps, he reached and picked up the receiver.

"Yes?" While holding the cordless receiver in one hand, he used the other one to take his remaining cigarette to his dark lips.

"How's my good boy today?" A soft, caring male voice came from the other side.

"Assalaam O alaikum Maulana uncle." He sighed with relief as he heard his teacher's voice and then said, "I was actually going to call you in few minutes. I have some good news for you." Not just his face, even his voice was smiling. "Thankfully, your prayers got colors."

"You made my day son. I have waited so long for this very day." Maulana uncle's voice became shaky with emotion.

"Dr. Waris has called me tomorrow for my final check up. He said that hopefully they would issue the mental health clearance certificate for me this time." He said, leaning against the railing of the upstairs terrace. The salt breeze rippled gently through his dark black hair.

"And what about police matters?"

"One of my friends talked to D.I.G. Crimes, he has assured us that there're no more charges remaining on me now. My file has been closed. The police does accept the fact that whatever happened was something I did when I was not mentally normal." He finished his long sentence. "I'd never forgive myself ever though."

"Yes. Why not, thanks to Allah, you're normal now, physically as well as mentally." Maulana uncle was as supportive as ever. "It's been a long way though."

"Uncle, I don't believe that it's been more than two years now." He took a long breath. "The loss is unbearable however."

Maulana uncle remained silent this time.

"Uncle, tell me. Tell me, why does it hurt to love someone?"

From the other side, he heard a soft, sober laughter.

"People don't offer thanks when they're happy. Yet they object when they're hurt."

" I… I will be thankful this time." He sobbed. "Sometimes, I just want my love back uncle. Although I know it's impossible. Those who have gone forever, never come back." He murmured painfully. "And please, not this time. I don't want to get hurt again. "

"Your love was meant to be…

"If it meant to be, why did I lose her?" His voice became loud, as he cut in.

"You didn't lose her...I'd say you let her go!" Maulana uncle replied. "And that was your mistake."

He did not reply. He had nothing to say.

"How's your poetry going?"

"My only hobby these days." He laughed emptily. "Yes I wrote some thing new."

"And what I could be?"

"My new poem, want to hear?" He asked, resting against the railing again and gazing far out to sea.

"Why not."

Hearing his response, he set his neatly framed glasses back on his nose and opened his diary again.

"Alright, here it is…I have dedicated this to her, the same person for whom I wrote it. By the way the title is 'Thank you'.

"Hmm, sounds interesting. Let's begin now."

He closed his eyes, tipped his head back and began to read the poem in a soft, low voice but with an impressive accent and perfection.

My love...

I am a different person,

A better person

since we first met

your honesty helped me

to see my weaknesses,

and your support helped me

to turn them into strengths.

Thank you,

Thank you for being my real, true friend

for not saying the things

you thought I wanted to hear,

but for saying the things

I needed to know.

You're one of the few people

I trusted when you told me

that I've done well,

because you are one of the few

who will tell me

when I could do better.

You challenged me

to be the best I could be...

by accepting and appreciating me,

you helped me

learn to accept

and appreciate myself.

Thank you for being my teacher!

I was helpless, you supported me

I was restless, you comforted me

I was ignorant, you acknowledged me

Thank you…

And now, I know, you're not with me,

But know what, you're still in me

Thank you for being my 'every thing.'

Light the way786 thanks for the beautiful story...but we are talkin abt romance novels containing "Sex stuff" in them..if this bk does not contain anythin about that..then i will inshallah read this novel... any novel that contains even alitle of "sex stuff" should not be read as it brings people closer to haram! when i say sex i mean "things that also bring you closer to sex" please note that!!

[Peaceful-sunni]

LOL! it would be funny if Shaytan comes on to this board and start getting defenceif about the novels.

[Rawshni]

Nah

He'd creates posts like one I saw about "Sexually Assaulting Islam" or something to that effect, and play the role of guardian of the faithfuls' morals AND show righteous indignation at the shaytaan's shaytaani . . . .

[Sehnsucht]

Light the way786 thanks for the beautiful story...but we are talkin abt romance novels containing "Sex stuff" in them..if this bk does not contain anythin about that..then i will inshallah read this novel... any novel that contains even alitle of "sex stuff" should not be read as it brings people closer to haram! when i say sex i mean "things that also bring you closer to sex" please note that!!

Salaams!

That's a good clarification, thank you. :) I was concerned at first that the point of this board was to throw out an entire genre of valued literature, some of which could indirectly actually serve to inspire and improve the spiritual state.

I HIGHLY recommend that you try the story out, it's amazing mash'Allah.

Here's the trailer preview: http://abidis.org/hijaabwaali.html

...And here's the page with the links to all 5 parts:

http://www.abidis.org/hijaabwaali-story.htm

Khuda Hafiz

[leila_11]

LOL! it would be funny if Shaytan comes on to this board and start getting defenceif about the novels.

Peaceful sunni please could u stick to the topic of discussion, we are discussin about "NOVELS" not "SHAYTAN"

Nah

He'd creates posts like one I saw about "Sexually Assaulting Islam" or something to that effect, and play the role of guardian of the faithfuls' morals AND show righteous indignation at the shaytaan's shaytaani . . . .

Rawshni you are goin off the topic!!

[Rawshni]

^

Both peaceful's and my post concerns novels etc, don't they . . . have a heart yaar . . .

[leila_11]

^

Both peaceful's and my post concerns novels etc, don't they . . . have a heart yaar . . .

:) come on Rawshni obviously i have a heart otherwise id nt be "living" lolz...nah seriously u both were going off the topic...mostly discusin abt shaytan...thats why b4 u goo completely off the topic thought of warning u guys..no offence :)

[deathseyesareonyou]

Well it quiet logical if you think about it!

Logical? Where would this table be? Floating in the sky or down in the center of the Earth. Where would this being buy his pens and paper, perhaps it would use a PC or Mac. ROFLLMAO

[Rawshni]

^

There exists in English figures of speech something known as METAPHOR

[Peaceful-sunni]

I think this is starting to esculate to much let leaved Shaytan Love life for now.

Now we must be careful about condeming a whole genre of novel based on a common assumption. Surely we as Muslim should know better.

[leila_11]

I think this is starting to esculate to much let leaved Shaytan Love life for now.

Now we must be careful about condeming a whole genre of novel based on a common assumption. Surely we as Muslim should know better.

Peaceful sunni...i am condemning the westernised romance novels coz im 100% sure most of them have alittle of "sex talk" even if its 1% and u reading them definitely leads u closer to haram stuf...wen i say "sex talk" what im trying to say is anythin that brings u closer to "Sex" eg kissing.. Yes muslims know better but we dunno everythin and we have to get more knowldge thats why we have these discussion forums!

Edited July 15, 2006 by leila_11

[knowledgeseeker]

SALAAAM...

Two things determine your future and your personality tomorrow,

The books you read and the friends you keep...

Therefore, although i never paid attention to the fact tht romantic novels mayb haraam, I can now understand and agree tht the consequences may b, N i hope never to read them again INshallah, By the help of My Lord..

Jazakallah,

Wasalaam...

[Rawshni]

Peaceful sunni...i am condemning the westernised romance novels coz im 100% sure most of them have alittle of "sex talk" even if its 1% and u reading them definitely leads u closer to haram stuf...wen i say "sex talk" what im trying to say is anythin that brings u closer to "Sex" eg kissing.. Yes muslims know better but we dunno everythin and we have to get more knowldge thats why we have these discussion forums!

On what grounds are you saying that what maybe true for YOu will be true for eveyrbody in the world. That if a book has the propensity to lead YOU to haraam it will lead everybidy else to haraam to?

[thats me titch]

i dont enjoy reading romantic novels.. i dunno i just dont find them interesting... im more into books like... the dark materials trilogy... n harry potter books... n series of unfortunate events.. so basically fantasy mixed with adventure... :angel:

[leila_11]

On what grounds are you saying that what maybe true for YOu will be true for eveyrbody in the world. That if a book has the propensity to lead YOU to haraam it will lead everybidy else to haraam to?

Rawshni iv never read romance novels and never will inshallah..ive posted this topic for discussion for just u type of sister's who read romance novels and just wanna stick to it despite Allah (swt) has said that one should keep away from anythin that will lead one close to haraam... I Dont wanna go off the topic but just to explain to you i will bring the ref to clubbing...why is goin to clubbing HARAAM??? Regardless of whether a person just goes ther TO LOOK...its haraam to go ther even just to look coz it will lead the person to do the HARAAM at the end...Shaytan is our open enemy... the same applies to novels dear sister...When you read something dirty or see somthing dirty or visualize it(even once) shaytan will make dirty thoughts repeat into ure mind and lead you into doin HARAAM. if watching movies that show "Sex" is prohibited in islam and we are told not to watch it... here its a "NOVEL"...ITS WORST COZ U VISUALIZE IT!!!U MAY ARGUE on this point AS MUCH AS U WISH bt take my advice if u wish "be wise and start posting here and advicing sisters to stop reading them instead of reading them"...coz "WHATS RIGHT REMAINS RIGHT SISTER...BEAR THAT IN MIND"

Edited July 15, 2006 by leila_11

[leila_11]

SALAAAM...

Two things determine your future and your personality tomorrow,

The books you read and the friends you keep...

Therefore, although i never paid attention to the fact tht romantic novels mayb haraam, I can now understand and agree tht the consequences may b, N i hope never to read them again INshallah, By the help of My Lord..

Jazakallah,

Wasalaam...

Alhamdullilah...im very happy that u accepted whats right knowledgeseeker. may Allah (swt) give u more maarifat and help u in all aspects of life and may he give me a more better way of discussing so that i can explain as many sisters here and also some brothers who may be reading such novels.. so that they can refrain and we all can get the sawaab plus when a person stops doing somthing wrong especially through reading these discussions...the one's who created this discussion forums get the sawaab too.. im very happy alhamdullilah :)

Edited July 15, 2006 by leila_11

[Peaceful-sunni]

I think we have to be careful about saying that this problem with romance novel is souly a western thing. It happens in the east just as much.

[leila_11]

I think we have to be careful about saying that this problem with romance novel is souly a western thing. It happens in the east just as much.

peaceful sunni romance novels written by the western authors are found throughout the world and people read such novels everywhere so its obvious it happens in the east as well.

[Peaceful-sunni]

"peaceful sunni romance novels written by the western authors are found throughout the world and people read such novels everywhere so its obvious it happens in the east as well."

I have to say romantic and even pornographic novels have exist in the East before it existed in the west. i mean the East is older than the West and through out history was more open to sex than the European until more recent times.

[leila_11]

"peaceful sunni romance novels written by the western authors are found throughout the world and people read such novels everywhere so its obvious it happens in the east as well."

I have to say romantic and even pornographic novels have exist in the East before it existed in the west. i mean the East is older than the West and through out history was more open to sex than the European until more recent times.

Peaceful sunni it dosent matter whether the romantic novels were published first in the east or the west :) ..wat matters is that everyone should avoid reading them thats all!

"peaceful sunni romance novels written by the western authors are found throughout the world and people read such novels everywhere so its obvious it happens in the east as well."

I have to say romantic and even pornographic novels have exist in the East before it existed in the west. i mean the East is older than the West and through out history was more open to sex than the European until more recent times.

Peaceful sunni it dosent matter whether the romantic novels were published first in the east or the west :) ..wat matters is that everyone should avoid reading them thats all!

[guest123]

Alaykum salam. Firstly i dont read romantic novels and i never will inshallah.. Anythin that leads you closer to something haram.. SHOULD BE AVOIDED BY ALL MEANS AND SHOULD BE KEPT AWAY FROM regardless of whether they are innapropriate or thrilling to read they all fall under ROMANTIC NOVELS which bring you closer to doing haram!

lol okay first of all i havent gone through all the comments by our fellow shiachatters , but with all due respect and i dont mean to offend or diss you but i have noticed a few contradictions .

I think this is another silly thread and you have described it very illogical and seems to be very unclear why we shouldnt read romantic novels !

first of all if shakespheare novel ''romeo and juliet'' or the love story of ''farhad and shirin'' , ''leila and majnoon '' are haram and reading them can lead u into falling in sin then you seriously dont know the lollypopsticks what you are talking about.

your definition of love stories /novels is very weak.. love and good friendship can blossom between two sisters in eyeslam can be called a love/friendship story of 2 friends is not neccessarily a lesbian story now is it ?

How can you say or know that reading romantic novels is haram and can bring you closer in doing haram , when you have never read 1 and never will (inshallah will keep u on that) ??????????? i try to understand but i seem to fail to follow u at some point.

Or are you talking about harlequin stories ? :lol:

sspeaking of harlequin i wonder who won the Mr Romantic awards lmao

Seriously your post how illogical and unclear it is to me does not intrigue me to read any romantic novels of the kind you are talking about. Though i do believe that starting a thread like this and not explaining clearfully enough might put ppl to read such novels out of curiosity !!! so the initial purpose of ur amil bil maroof and nahil anil munkar might have the opposite effect..( i have no doubts that your intensions were pure :) )

my advice so be a bit more precise.

By banning or posting such unconsidered threads ie things like reading novels you are placing urself on a very thin and dangerous ice! You can not put your fatwa or putting a censorship. Let the mind free and think for itself.

Only a person with a weak and unstable mind who has detached himself of god (any god) with no norms and values might fall prey into such things.

Shuld we bann cartoons aswell because of an incident that took place in holland a couple of years ago. When a young little boy tried to imitate Dragon ballz's picachu (the yellowish thing) and jumped off 4 stories high building out of the window with two spoons. :huh: :lol:

ws

[leila_11]

lol okay first of all i havent gone through all the comments by our fellow shiachatters , but with all due respect and i dont mean to offend or diss you but i have noticed a few contradictions .

I think this is another silly thread and you have described it very illogical and seems to be very unclear why we shouldnt read romantic novels !

first of all if shakespheare novel ''romeo and juliet'' or the love story of ''farhad and shirin'' , ''leila and majnoon '' are haram and reading them can lead u into falling in sin then you seriously dont know the lollypopsticks what you are talking about.

your definition of love stories /novels is very weak.. love and good friendship can blossom between two sisters in eyeslam can be called a love/friendship story of 2 friends is not neccessarily a lesbian story now is it ?

How can you say or know that reading romantic novels is haram and can bring you closer in doing haram , when you have never read 1 and never will (inshallah will keep u on that) ??????????? i try to understand but i seem to fail to follow u at some point.

Or are you talking about harlequin stories ? :lol:

sspeaking of harlequin i wonder who won the Mr Romantic awards lmao

Seriously your post how illogical and unclear it is to me does not intrigue me to read any romantic novels of the kind you are talking about. Though i do believe that starting a thread like this and not explaining clearfully enough might put ppl to read such novels out of curiosity !!! so the initial purpose of ur amil bil maroof and nahil anil munkar might have the opposite effect..( i have no doubts that your intensions were pure :) )

my advice so be a bit more precise.

By banning or posting such unconsidered threads ie things like reading novels you are placing urself on a very thin and dangerous ice! You can not put your fatwa or putting a censorship. Let the mind free and think for itself.

Only a person with a weak and unstable mind who has detached himself of god (any god) with no norms and values might fall prey into such things.

Shuld we bann cartoons aswell because of an incident that took place in holland a couple of years ago. When a young little boy tried to imitate Dragon ballz's picachu (the yellowish thing) and jumped off 4 stories high building out of the window with two spoons. :huh: :lol:

ws

Marry poppins if its unclear to u...u can sure ask for a further clarification rather than saying its a funny thread...u find it "funny" coz u dont understand and are least bothered to read all the comments here and gain knowledge instead u just wanna post in here and just bring out "wat u feel is right" ;) ...u should crave for knowledge first and read everything then Post..posting without reading is "not a sensible thing to do" Sister im talkin about Romantic novels that contain "Sex talk" in them when i say "sex talk" i mean anythin that leads one to sex for eg..kissing! u posting without reading makes it boring for others to keep on reading the same stuff all the time..coz i hav clarified wat i mean wen i said "romantic novels" Furthermore yes reading such novels does bring u closer to haram..how??? if u wanna know that and gain knowledge abt it u need to do alittle of the "hardwork" of readin all the posts here...u cant get everythin in a "golden plate".. :lol:

Mary yes i never hav read such novels and never will read..some of my close friends used to read such novels and alhamd..i was successful in explaining them to stop.. Id advice u to read all the posts before POSTING HERE... AS REPEATING AND SAYING WAT I HAVE ALREADY POSTED WILL MAKE THIS THREAD PRETTY BORING FOR ALL THOSE WHO HAVE ALREADY READ..ALLRIGHT SIS!

Edited July 17, 2006 by leila_11

[Rawshni]

Rawshni iv never read romance novels and never will inshallah..ive posted this topic for discussion for just u type of sister's who read romance novels and just wanna stick to it despite Allah (swt) has said that one should keep away from anythin that will lead one close to haraam... I Dont wanna go off the topic but just to explain to you i will bring the ref to clubbing...why is goin to clubbing HARAAM??? Regardless of whether a person just goes ther TO LOOK...its haraam to go ther even just to look coz it will lead the person to do the HARAAM at the end...Shaytan is our open enemy... the same applies to novels dear sister...When you read something dirty or see somthing dirty or visualize it(even once) shaytan will make dirty thoughts repeat into ure mind and lead you into doin HARAAM. if watching movies that show "Sex" is prohibited in islam and we are told not to watch it... here its a "NOVEL"...ITS WORST COZ U VISUALIZE IT!!!U MAY ARGUE on this point AS MUCH AS U WISH bt take my advice if u wish "be wise and start posting here and advicing sisters to stop reading them instead of reading them"...coz "WHATS RIGHT REMAINS RIGHT SISTER...BEAR THAT IN MIND"

Mama Mia . . .

Your spiel sounds too much like the self-righteous and holier-than-thou bleatings of the wahhabi mullah at the masjid that was my next door neighbour when I was a teen . . .

Edited July 17, 2006 by Rawshni

[leila_11]

lol okay first of all i havent gone through all the comments by our fellow shiachatters , but with all due respect and i dont mean to offend or diss you but i have noticed a few contradictions .

I think this is another silly thread and you have described it very illogical and seems to be very unclear why we shouldnt read romantic novels !

first of all if shakespheare novel ''romeo and juliet'' or the love story of ''farhad and shirin'' , ''leila and majnoon '' are haram and reading them can lead u into falling in sin then you seriously dont know the lollypopsticks what you are talking about.

your definition of love stories /novels is very weak.. love and good friendship can blossom between two sisters in eyeslam can be called a love/friendship story of 2 friends is not neccessarily a lesbian story now is it ?

How can you say or know that reading romantic novels is haram and can bring you closer in doing haram , when you have never read 1 and never will (inshallah will keep u on that) ??????????? i try to understand but i seem to fail to follow u at some point.

Or are you talking about harlequin stories ? :lol:

sspeaking of harlequin i wonder who won the Mr Romantic awards lmao

Seriously your post how illogical and unclear it is to me does not intrigue me to read any romantic novels of the kind you are talking about. Though i do believe that starting a thread like this and not explaining clearfully enough might put ppl to read such novels out of curiosity !!! so the initial purpose of ur amil bil maroof and nahil anil munkar might have the opposite effect..( i have no doubts that your intensions were pure :) )

my advice so be a bit more precise.

By banning or posting such unconsidered threads ie things like reading novels you are placing urself on a very thin and dangerous ice! You can not put your fatwa or putting a censorship. Let the mind free and think for itself.

Only a person with a weak and unstable mind who has detached himself of god (any god) with no norms and values might fall prey into such things.

Shuld we bann cartoons aswell because of an incident that took place in holland a couple of years ago. When a young little boy tried to imitate Dragon ballz's picachu (the yellowish thing) and jumped off 4 stories high building out of the window with two spoons. :huh: :lol:

ws

Marry poppins if its unclear to u...u can sure ask for a further clarification rather than saying its a funny thread...u find it "funny" coz u dont understand and are least bothered to read all the comments here and gain knowledge instead u just wanna post in here and just bring out "wat u feel is right" ;) ...u should crave for knowledge first and read everything then Post..posting without reading is "not a sensible thing to do" Sister im talkin about Romantic novels that contain "S

[Peaceful-sunni]

Is mary saying she reads romantic novels

[Yousif]

(salam)

you know what will happen if you read romantic novels

to find out read northanger abbey :lol: see what happened to her ....

except catherine read gothic novels :Hijabi:

Edited July 17, 2006 by Yousif

[guest123]

Is mary saying she reads romantic novels

:huh: i dont believe i said that i read romantic novels did i ??? :huh:

Marry poppins if its unclear to u...u can sure ask for a further clarification rather than saying its a funny thread...u find it "funny" coz u dont understand and are least bothered to read all the comments here and gain knowledge instead u just wanna post in here and just bring out "wat u feel is right" ;) ...u should crave for knowledge first and read everything then Post..posting without reading is "not a sensible thing to do" Sister im talkin about Romantic novels that contain "S

Lol sis thanks for reminding of that :) maybe i should have read all the comments but i dont have time for that (got also other important things in life than shiachat). I just read the first page and that was it ? did i commit a crime well if i did then sue me to the moderators hehe (jk)

See i was right about my ''girls are like cats '' song ...i only posted my opinon and my views i did not say that i am right any1 can proof me wrong aslong its with reason and logic i dont mind at all , infact i would rather appreciate some 1 who doesnt bum chum with me and agrees with everything i do and say.

I do think (and this is my OPINION) thatyou are being a little bit judgmental or atleast assuming that i am not bothered or that i am not willing to gain knowledge.

You baffle me :P , but ah velll i am not bothered and dont see the the use of defending or explaining myself :) to people like you ... especially not ppl online !

peace :)

(improve your looks : smile :) its sunnah )

[Peaceful-sunni]

No i am asking do you read romantic novels?

[leila_11]

No i am asking do you read romantic novels?

QUOTE(Mary_Poppins @ Jul 17 2006, 11:52 AM)

I think this is another silly thread and you have described it very illogical and seems to be very unclear why we shouldnt read romantic novels !

Bro peaceful Mary does...coz lukin at wat shes posted a while ago it really does seem. she says "why WE shudnt read the romantic novels" that means she does for sure!!thats why she also finds this a silly thread, coz she just wants to prove that reading romantic novels is nt bad! :lol:

Edited July 18, 2006 by leila_11

[SpIzo]

OoOoo so reading romantic novels is biddah, eh? :lol:

Keep up the good work of making people laugh, leila_11. ^_^ @)

[leila_11]

OoOoo so reading romantic novels is biddah, eh? :lol:

Keep up the good work of making people laugh, leila_11. ^_^ @)

Spizo they say an answer to a fool...is silence..so now il just ignore ure comments coz i find arguing wit u on sumthin baseless is "Wasting my precious tym, i got better things to post in here thn waste my tym arguing wit u" :lol:

If you really are interested in knowin abt the romantic novels...do have the brains to read some of the posts and if ure head cannot understand...then u can request more explanation from me regardin it..il help u out wit the knowledge u need