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Women in Islam Versus Women in the Judaeo-Christian Tradition:

The Myth and The Reality -THE VEIL ?


Finally, let us shed some light on what is considered in the West as the greatest symbol of women's oppression and servitude, the veil or the head cover. Is it true that there is no such thing as the veil in the Judaeo-Christian tradition? Let us set the record straight. According to Rabbi Dr. Menachem M. Brayer (Professor of Biblical Literature at Yeshiva University) in his book, The Jewish woman in Rabbinic literature, it was the custom of Jewish women to go out in public with a head covering which, sometimes, even covered the whole face leaving one eye free. He quotes some famous ancient Rabbis saying," It is not

like the daughters of Israel to walk out with heads uncovered" and"Cursed be the man who lets the hair of his wife be seen....a woman who exposes her hair for self-adornment brings poverty." Rabbinic law forbids the recitation of blessings or prayers in the presence of a bareheaded married woman since uncovering the woman's hair is considered "nudity".  Dr. Brayer also mentions that "During the Tannaitic period the Jewish woman's failure to cover her head was considered an affront to her modesty. When her head was uncovered she might be fined four hundred zuzim for this offense." Dr. Brayer also explains that veil of the Jewish woman was not always considered a sign of modesty. Sometimes, the veil symbolized a state of distinction and luxury rather than modesty. The veil personified the dignity and superiority of noble women. It also represented a woman's inaccessibility as a sanctified possession of her husband. The veil signified a woman's self-respect and social status. Women of lower classes would often wear the veil to give the impression of a higher standing. The fact that the veil was the sign of nobility was the reason why prostitutes were not permitted to cover their hair in the old Jewish society. However, prostitutes often wore a special headscarf in order to look respectable. Jewish women in Europe continued to wear veils until the nineteenth century when their lives became more intermingled with the surrounding secular culture. The external pressures of the European life in the nineteenth century forced many of them to go out bare-headed. Some Jewish women found it more convenient to replace their traditional veil with a wig as another form of hair covering. Today, most pious Jewish women do not cover their hair except in the synagogue. Some of them, such as the Hasidic sects, still use the wig.

What about the Christian tradition? It is well known that Catholic Nuns have been covering their heads for hundreds of years, but that is not all. St. Paul in the New Testament made some very interesting statements about the veil:

"Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonours his head. And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonours her head - it is just as though her head were shaved. If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or shaved off, she should cover her head. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head" (I Corinthians 11:3-10).

St. Paul's rationale for veiling women is that the veil represents a sign of the authority of the man, who is the image and glory of God, over the woman who was created from and for man. St. Tertullian in his famous treatise 'On The Veiling Of Virgins' wrote, "Young women, you wear your veils out on the streets, so you should wear them in the church, you wear them when you are among strangers, then wear them among your brothers..." Among the Canon laws of the Catholic church today  there is a law that requires women to cover their heads in church.  Some Christian denominations, such as the Amish and the Mennonites for example, keep their women veiled to the present day. The reason for the veil, as offered by their Church leaders, is that "The head covering is a symbol of woman's subjection to the man and to God", which is the same logic introduced by St. Paul in the New Testament.

From all the above evidence, it is obvious that Islam did not invent the head cover. However, Islam did endorse it. The Quran urges the believing men and women to lower their gaze and guard their modesty and then urges the believing women to extend their head covers to cover the neck and the bosom:

"Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty......And say to the believing women that they should lower  their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what ordinarily appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms...." (Quran 24:30,31).

The Quran is quite clear that the veil is essential for modesty, but why is modesty important? The Quran is still clear:

"O Prophet, tell your wives and daughters and the believing women that they should cast their outer garments over their bodies (when abroad) so that they should be known and not molested" (Quran 33:59).

This is the whole point, modesty is prescribed to protect women from molestation or simply, modesty is protection. Thus, the only purpose of the veil in Islam is protection. The Islamic veil, unlike the veil of the Christian tradition, is not a sign of man's authority over woman nor is it a sign of woman's subjection to man. The Islamic veil, unlike the veil in the Jewish tradition, is not a sign of luxury and distinction of some noble married women. The Islamic veil is only a sign of modesty with the purpose of protecting women, all women. The Islamic philosophy is that it is always better to be safe than sorry. In fact, the Quran is so concerned with protecting women's bodies and women's reputation that a man who dares to falsely accuse a woman of unchastity will be severely punished:

"And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations)- Flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors" (Quran 24:4)

Compare this strict Quranic attitude with the extremely lax punishment for rape in the Bible:

" If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives" (Deut. 22:28-30)

One must ask a simple question here, who is really punished? The man who only paid a fine for rape, or the girl who is forced to marry the man who raped her and live with him until he dies? Another question that also should be asked is this: which is more protective of women, the Quranic strict attitude or the Biblical lax attitude?

Some people, especially in the West, would tend to ridicule the whole argument of modesty for protection. Their argument is that the best protection is the spread of education, civilised behaviour, and self restraint. We would say: fine but not enough. If 'civilization' is enough protection, then why is it that women in North America dare not walk alone in a dark street - or even across an empty parking lot ? If Education is the solution, then why is it that a respected university like Queen's has a 'walk home service' mainly for female students on campus? If self restraint is the answer, then why are cases of sexual harassment in the workplace reported on the news media every day? A sample of those accused of sexual harassment, in the last few years, includes: Navy officers, Managers, University professors, Senators, Supreme Court Justices, and the President of the United States! I could not believe my eyes when I read the following statistics, written in a pamphlet issued by the Dean of Women's office at Queen's University:

* In Canada, a woman is sexually assaulted every 6 minutes,

* 1 in 3 women in Canada will be sexually assaulted at some time in their

lives,

* 1 in 4 women are at the risk of rape or attempted rape in her lifetime,

* 1 in 8 women will be sexually assaulted while attending college or

university, and

* A study found 60% of Canadian university-aged males said they would commit sexual assault if they were certain they wouldn't get caught.

 

Something is fundamentally wrong in the society we live in. A radical change in the society's life style and culture is absolutely necessary. A culture of modesty is badly needed, modesty in dress, in speech, and in manners of both men and women. Otherwise, the grim statistics will grow even worse day after day and, unfortunately, women alone will be paying the price. Actually, we all suffer but as K. Gibran has said, "...for the person who receives the blows is not like the one who counts them."  Therefore, a society like France which expels young women from schools because of their modest dress is, in the end, simply harming itself.

It is one of the great ironies of our world today that the very same headscarf revered as a sign of 'holiness' when worn for the purpose of showing the authority of man by Catholic Nuns, is reviled as a sign of 'oppression' when worn for the purpose of protection by Muslim women.

 

 

[i:post_uid0]By: Sherif Abdel Azim, Ph.D.[/i:post_uid0]

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"Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonours his head. And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonours her head - it is just as though her head were shaved. If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or shaved off, she should cover her head. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head" (I Corinthians 11:3-10).

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In fact, the Quran is so concerned with protecting women's bodies and women's reputation that a man who dares to falsely accuse a woman of unchastity will be severely punished:

And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations)- Flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors"

One must ask a simple question here, who is really punished?

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Salaam

"If a man is found sleeping with another man’s wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge this evil from Israel." (Deuteronomy 22:22)

Forgiven, that website is owned and operated by the terrorist MKO group financed by Saddam, who've killed scores of Iranians since the 80s.  They have their own agenda behind this.

As far as that video goes, we do not know the details of their crime.  In Islam, a number of criteria have to be established in order to give capital punishment.  For example, if the woman was unmarried, she is given a lesser punishment.  Or if she was insane or forced against her will then she is not punished.  Also, social factors which may have led her to commit adultery (i.e. she was destitute, or was abused which led her to this, etc) are considered.  

And if the person is about to be stoned and s/he repents, they can be forgiven.  A pregnant woman cannot be punished until she has given birth and nursed her child and the child is taken of.  A sick person cannot be punished until the sickness goes away.

But people who commit rape, have extra-martial affairs, or repeatedly commit adultery or homosexuals are given the capital punishment because this kind of behavior causes corruption in society and destroys families.  

If adultery is allowed to run rampant as it has in the West, it can cause severe problems in society.   According to a recent survery, 24% of husbands and 15% of wives have cheated on their spouses.  The divorce rate in the U.S. is over 50% with adultery accounting for a third of all divorces.  You don't have nearly as many illegitimate children and single mothers in most Muslim countries.

Imam Khomeini (SA) writes

"The merciful Prophet was a messenger of bounty:  Those who follow the west imagine that the Islamic percepts are harsh.  These people do not know at all what these percepts are for.  It is like a physican who holds the knife and tears the abdomen in order to remove a cancer[ous] gland and someone says: that physician is harsh.  Is this a bounty or harshness?  That physician who cuts off the hand does it because that hand will putrefy the human body.  This society is like the human body and sometimes, for rectifying a society, it will discipline (punish) a person, such a punishment that on occasion results in his killing.  One who corrupts a country, or a group, and is incorrigible, he must be eliminated for the sake of purifying and protecting the society; this cancerous gland must be removed from the society and its removal is done by executing him.  Such are the Islamic executions, not like the western executions that they rush in and kill and annihilate in order to make a place for themselves.  Islamic executions are bounty [bountiful] executions, when one punishment of the divine punishments is exercised the society will be rectified.  If the hands [meaning the 4 fingers of the right hand) of four theives are cut off in a public gathering (thievery) will end.  If four people who are afflicted with prostitution are flogged, prostitution will die.  This is that cancerous gland that  physician is forced to remove in order to preserve a man's life."

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Salaam

"If a man is found sleeping with another man’s wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die. You must purge this evil from Israel." (Deuteronomy 22:22)

Forgiven, that website is owned and operated by the terrorist MKO group financed by Saddam, who've killed scores of Iranians since the 80s.  They have their own agenda behind this.

As far as that video goes, we do not know the details of their crime.  In Islam, a number of criteria have to be established in order to give capital punishment.  For example, if the woman was unmarried, she is given a lesser punishment.  Or if she was insane or forced against her will then she is not punished.  Also, social factors which may have led her to commit adultery (i.e. she was destitute, or was abused which led her to this, etc) are considered.  

And if the person is about to be stoned and s/he repents, they can be forgiven.  A pregnant woman cannot be punished until she has given birth and nursed her child and the child is taken of.  A sick person cannot be punished until the sickness goes away.

But people who commit rape, have extra-martial affairs, or repeatedly commit adultery or homosexuals are given the capital punishment because this kind of behavior causes corruption in society and destroys families.  

If adultery is allowed to run rampant as it has in the West, it can cause severe problems in society.   According to a recent survery, 24% of husbands and 15% of wives have cheated on their spouses.  The divorce rate in the U.S. is over 50% with adultery accounting for a third of all divorces.  You don't have nearly as many illegitimate children and single mothers in most Muslim countries.

Imam Khomeini (SA) writes

"The merciful Prophet was a messenger of bounty:  Those who follow the west image that the Islamic percepts are harsh.  These people do not know at all what these percepts are for.  It is like a physican who holds the knife and tears the abdomen in order to remove a cancer[ous] gland and someone says: that physician is harsh.  Is this a bounty or harshness?  That physician who cuts off the hand does it because that hand will putrefy the human body.  This society is like the human body and sometimes, for rectifying a society, it will discipline (punish) a person, such a punishment that on occasion results in his killing.  One who corrupts a country, or a group, and is incorrigible, he must be eliminated for the sake of purifying and protecting the society; this cancerous gland must be removed from the society and its removal is done by executing him.  Such are the Islamic executions, not like the western executions that they rush in and kill and annihilate in order to make a place for themselves.  Islamic executions are bounty [bountiful] executions, when one punishment of the divine punishments is exercised the society will be rectified.  If the hands [meaning the 4 fingers of the right hand) of four theives are cut off in a public gathering (thievery) will end.  If four people who are afflicted with prostitution are flogged, prostitution will die.  This is that cancerous gland that  physician is forced to remove in order to preserve a man's life."

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Salams to both my Muslim and non Muslim brothers and sisters.

As many in this Forum are probably aware, I am a Shia Muslim by birth and for countless generations.

I do not agree with the attitude of clerics who try to pursue Islamic law to the word.

Islam law must begin with the self. Do we punish ourselves for the sins we do ?

Among our twelve Imams, the only one who had the opportunity to pass judgment was Hazrat Ali(as) and there is some evidence to believe  he used to find excuses to acquit people.

Perhaps we should consider his saying 'Do not act with haste in the execution of punishment'  more seriously.

Salams

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"Perhaps we should consider his saying 'Do not act with haste in the execution of punishment'  more seriously."

I think it is more appropriate to say, he would really give people the benefit of the doubt as long as it doesn't violate the syariah.

For example, in college (I went to a Jesuit college) in some of our ethics classes, the professor, in principle, agreed that it is better to let a criminal go free rather than imprisoning an innocent man.

In practice, the current legal system is a far cry from that ideal we had in college.

The way Imam Ali (as) rule was closer to that ideal.

The book by George Jordac (a christian) entitled The Voice of Human Justice, is written about Imam Ali (as), one of the most just ruler to ever walk this earth. Non-muslims and muslims loved him very much.

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Never, never, never in his wildest imagination, could my father ever have thrown the first stone like this Imam. How can a cleric do this? Someone help me to understand.

Man is not perfect.Many will violate and abuse the very laws they say to represent and uphold.Many,in the name of religion,have done terrible things thru history.

Just like a preist who abuses young boys thru his trusted position is not an example of christianity,an imam who abuses Islamic laws by killing or punishing people without fair jugdement is not an example of Islam.

Unfortunatly,sometimes man becomes swept away by his own evil,and lets it out on others who do not deserve it.

I remember the story of a mother in Afghanistan who were executed,in front of her children and family.She had killed her husband,due to constant abuse.

Right before the execution was to take place,she repented.The taliban ignored this.The family of her dead husband forgave her,which was also ignored.

Islamic law says she is not to be executed after this,but still it was ignored and the woman was infact executed.These are grave violations of the Islamic law by people who calls themselfs muslims.

If the people who calls themselfs religious would take their religion seriously,and not absue it for their own sick satisfactions,we would not have the pictures we have of different religions today.

But sadly,people are weak in their spirit,and even sader it is to see these same people coming to a point where they have power to let their inner weakness ruin other peoples lifes...

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Keep going 2 verses Hameedah.

11:15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.

Also, about the statement you quote about nuns wearing veils being about the authority of man is incorrect. They cover themselves because they are consecrated to god. And all things that are consecrated to God are veiled in Catholic tradition, such as tabernacles and other assorted items deemed holy in Catholic rites.

It should also be said that I do agree with the statement you quote, despite its factual inaccuracy it is indeed a contradiction. Having been raised in a fairly hardcore Catholic environment for the first 15 years of my life, veils are nothing new to me. The people that rail against hijabs and other Islamic coverings are usually xenophobic bigots that are essentially cowards. They have the courage to target a specific gender of a tiny minority religion (in America), but don't have the will to confront societal conditions that allows anorexia, bulimia and various other body conscious disorders to become commonplace. Its completely irresponsible.

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Orthodox married jewish women cover their hair today. They either wear a scarf or a wig. It continues to be the Jewish Law (Halacha) that a man is not permitted to recite prayers or blessings, or even say words of Torah in the presence of a married woman whose head is not covered.

An unmarried woman is NOT required to cover her hair, even in a synagogue.

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Women in Islam Versus Women in the Judaeo-Christian Tradition:

The Myth and The Reality -THE VEIL ?

Finally, let us shed some light on what is considered in the West as the greatest symbol of women's oppression and servitude, the veil or the head cover. Is it true that there is no such thing as the veil in the Judaeo-Christian tradition? Let us set the record straight. According to Rabbi Dr. Menachem M. Brayer (Professor of Biblical Literature at Yeshiva University) in his book, The Jewish woman in Rabbinic literature, it was the custom of Jewish women to go out in public with a head covering which, sometimes, even covered the whole face leaving one eye free.

Hello Seiful Islam,

First of all, it is important to note that this was the "custom". Customs are cultural traditions. In the Tanakh, is there a command from God to Moses or before Moses concerning women having to wear a head covering? If not, then it is not a command from God, but rather a cultural practic, a custom, that the Jewish women observed. A command of God is required. For example, the command to not kill or murder is specifically taught in the Torah. However, a cultural tradition is not required but is a part of the culture and lives of those of that particular culture.

He quotes some famous ancient Rabbis saying," It is not

like the daughters of Israel to walk out with heads uncovered" and"Cursed be the man who lets the hair of his wife be seen....a woman who exposes her hair for self-adornment brings poverty." Rabbinic law forbids the recitation of blessings or prayers in the presence of a bareheaded married woman since uncovering the woman's hair is considered "nudity". Dr. Brayer also mentions that "During the Tannaitic period the Jewish woman's failure to cover her head was considered an affront to her modesty. When her head was uncovered she might be fined four hundred zuzim for this offense."

Again, is this a part of the Tanakh and God's commands?

Sometimes the Rabbis advocated things that were not specific commands from God.

Dr. Brayer also explains that veil of the Jewish woman was not always considered a sign of modesty. Sometimes, the veil symbolized a state of distinction and luxury rather than modesty. The veil personified the dignity and superiority of noble women. It also represented a woman's inaccessibility as a sanctified possession of her husband. The veil signified a woman's self-respect and social status. Women of lower classes would often wear the veil to give the impression of a higher standing. The fact that the veil was the sign of nobility was the reason why prostitutes were not permitted to cover their hair in the old Jewish society. However, prostitutes often wore a special headscarf in order to look respectable. Jewish women in Europe continued to wear veils until the nineteenth century when their lives became more intermingled with the surrounding secular culture. The external pressures of the European life in the nineteenth century forced many of them to go out bare-headed. Some Jewish women found it more convenient to replace their traditional veil with a wig as another form of hair covering. Today, most pious Jewish women do not cover their hair except in the synagogue. Some of them, such as the Hasidic sects, still use the wig.

This helps me understand a bit more why Paul wrote to a church in the city of Corinth for the women to cover their hair. It is possible that in the culture of the city of Corinth, women who did not wear head coverings were considered prostitutes.

What about the Christian tradition? It is well known that Catholic Nuns have been covering their heads for hundreds of years, but that is not all. St. Paul in the New Testament made some very interesting statements about the veil:

"Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonours his head. And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonours her head - it is just as though her head were shaved. If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or shaved off, she should cover her head. A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head" (I Corinthians 11:3-10).

Please notice that Paul said that "Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonours his head.." However, many Jewish men did and still do today pray with a covering on their head. In fact, the priests wore a turban on their head, which by the way, was specifically commanded by God to Moses and the Levites!

Exodus 28 (NIV) - I boldened some.

"36 “Make a plate of pure gold and engrave on it as on a seal: HOLY TO THE LORD. 37 Fasten a blue cord to it to attach it to the turban; it is to be on the front of the turban. 38 It will be on Aaron’s forehead, and he will bear the guilt involved in the sacred gifts the Israelites consecrate, whatever their gifts may be. It will be on Aaron’s forehead continually so that they will be acceptable to the LORD.

39 “Weave the tunic of fine linen and make the turban of fine linen. The sash is to be the work of an embroiderer. 40 Make tunics, sashes and caps for Aaron’s sons to give them dignity and honor. 41 After you put these clothes on your brother Aaron and his sons, anoint and ordain them. Consecrate them so they may serve me as priests."

]For this and many other reasons, including Paul only wrote this to the church of Corinth, most Christians believe this to be a cultural issue, not a command from God to the Gentiles.

St. Paul's rationale for veiling women is that the veil represents a sign of the authority of the man, who is the image and glory of God, over the woman who was created from and for man. St. Tertullian in his famous treatise 'On The Veiling Of Virgins' wrote, "Young women, you wear your veils out on the streets, so you should wear them in the church, you wear them when you are among strangers, then wear them among your brothers..." Among the Canon laws of the Catholic church today there is a law that requires women to cover their heads in church. Some Christian denominations, such as the Amish and the Mennonites for example, keep their women veiled to the present day. The reason for the veil, as offered by their Church leaders, is that "The head covering is a symbol of woman's subjection to the man and to God", which is the same logic introduced by St. Paul in the New Testament.

From all the above evidence, it is obvious that Islam did not invent the head cover. However, Islam did endorse it. The Quran urges the believing men and women to lower their gaze and guard their modesty and then urges the believing women to extend their head covers to cover the neck and the bosom:

"Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty......And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what ordinarily appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms...." (Quran 24:30,31).

The Quran is quite clear that the veil is essential for modesty, but why is modesty important? The Quran is still clear:

"O Prophet, tell your wives and daughters and the believing women that they should cast their outer garments over their bodies (when abroad) so that they should be known and not molested" (Quran 33:59).

This is the whole point, modesty is prescribed to protect women from molestation or simply, modesty is protection. Thus, the only purpose of the veil in Islam is protection. The Islamic veil, unlike the veil of the Christian tradition, is not a sign of man's authority over woman nor is it a sign of woman's subjection to man. The Islamic veil, unlike the veil in the Jewish tradition, is not a sign of luxury and distinction of some noble married women. The Islamic veil is only a sign of modesty with the purpose of protecting women, all women. The Islamic philosophy is that it is always better to be safe than sorry. In fact, the Quran is so concerned with protecting women's bodies and women's reputation that a man who dares to falsely accuse a woman of unchastity will be severely punished:

"And those who launch a charge against chaste women, and produce not four witnesses (to support their allegations)- Flog them with eighty stripes; and reject their evidence ever after: for such men are wicked transgressors" (Quran 24:4)

Compare this strict Quranic attitude with the extremely lax punishment for rape in the Bible:

" If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives" (Deut. 22:28-30)

One must ask a simple question here, who is really punished? The man who only paid a fine for rape, or the girl who is forced to marry the man who raped her and live with him until he dies? Another question that also should be asked is this: which is more protective of women, the Quranic strict attitude or the Biblical lax attitude?

Concerning God's commandments about punishment for rape in the Tanakh, one thing that readers who think need to acknowledge is that most Jewish men are not stupid. If you asked a Jewish man if he would consider raping a woman in order to marry her, what do you think he will say? Most Jewish men of that time and of this time today can logically conclude that they would rather be married the right way, with the blessing of both families and a happy wife. Most Jewish men are not stupid and would not use this in order to get married, nah. Thinking about the what ifs is something that is encouraged in Judaistic thought, which is one reason why many Jewish people are very successful in business... they think about things.

So, with the command above, one needs to understand that this scenario is highly unlikely for many reasons.

1. Most Jewish women of that time were not alone; they did not often wander alone to a place where noone could hear her screams. I would assume that most Jewish women of today also do not wander alone to a place where noone would hear her screams for rescue. Most Jewish women are not that dumb, and most Jewish parents look out for the welfare of their daughters. I have never ever, by the way, seen a Jewish Orthodox girl alone in Chicago when I lived there, though I did see Jewish Orthodox girls walking with other Jewish Orthodox people.

2. Most Jewish men think and desire success. Their idea of success is not marrying a woman they have raped that they have to take care of for the rest of their life, no. This is actually a deterrent to not thinking, because think about it. Let's say for example, if a stupid evil American soldier (who I don't think is Jewish by the way) who raped the 14 year old, thought beforehand... wait a minute, if I rape her, I'm going to either be killed or be forced to marry her, would I really want parents-in-laws who hate my guts and a wife who was scared of me and didn't want to be with me? Would I really want to take care of her, providing her food and clothing and all she needs, for the rest of her life? If this deterrent had been there for this American soldier and if he had an ounce of goodness and intelligence in him, he would have not raped her or killed her, along with his stupid evil friends.

Peace and God bless you

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The people that rail against hijabs and other Islamic coverings are usually xenophobic bigots that are essentially cowards.

Some times it's people who see the hypocracy of wearing hijab and jeans tight enough to see a thong underneath.

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