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Why USrael Won't Fight Brazil's Nuke Program

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Brazil follows Iran’s nuclear path, but without the fuss

Associated Press, RESENDE, April 21

As Iran faces international pressure over its nuclear programme, Brazil is quietly preparing to open its own uranium-enrichment centre, capable of producing exactly the same fuel.

Brazil, like Iran, has signed the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, and Brazil’s constitution bans the military use of nuclear energy.

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http://www.indianexpress.com/story/2890.html

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Brazil follows Iran’s nuclear path, but without the fuss

Associated Press, RESENDE, April 21

As Iran faces international pressure over its nuclear programme, Brazil is quietly preparing to open its own uranium-enrichment centre, capable of producing exactly the same fuel.

Brazil, like Iran, has signed the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, and Brazil’s constitution bans the military use of nuclear energy.

Continue to read:

http://www.indianexpress.com/story/2890.html

It's because of the differences in governments between Brazil and Iran.

Brazil doesn't fund militant groups who are devoted to the destruction of the West and are classified as terrorists by international law. Brazil isn't led by a semi-theocratic "democracy" with philosophic interests that the West's enemies share.

Trying to compare the two is like trying to compare apples and oranges.

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Its a known fact that nukes will give you a vip pass in international community's lounge. And the cool thing about vip room politics is that people actually listen to each other- more talking and less bullying. Anyone who can make it should be allowed to make it. They should change the name to Nobel Peace Prize and should change the term Small Firearms with WMD. Because nukes have actually stopped many potential conflicts, and many potential conflicts turned into costly and bloody conflicts with the presence of small firearms.

It's because of the differences in governments between Brazil and Iran.

Brazil doesn't fund militant groups who are devoted to the destruction of the West and are classified as terrorists by international law. Brazil isn't led by a semi-theocratic "democracy" with philosophic interests that the West's enemies share.

Trying to compare the two is like trying to compare apples and oranges.

Its only natural that the two govts be different and have different foreign policies. They both represent two regions with extremly different political realities. However, monopolizing international law and aligning it with American interests does anything but protect international law. Its already proving to be extremely counter productive.

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Its a known fact that nukes will give you a vip pass in international community's lounge. And the cool thing about vip room politics is that people actually listen to each other- more talking and less bullying. Anyone who can make it should be allowed to make it. They should change the name to Nobel Peace Prize and should change the term Small Firearms with WMD. Because nukes have actually stopped many potential conflicts, and many potential conflicts turned into costly and bloody conflicts with the presence of small firearms.

So you think that the theory of Mutually Assured Destruction is the best approach to politics?

With governments like the semi-theocratic Iranian government being involved in this game then who is to say that mutually assured destruction applies? After all, don't these hardliners in the government believe that religiouslly speaking they can affored to be killed, or sacrifice the entire Iranian population, as long as they die for Allah? Who is to say that Iran wouldn't launch a suicidal attack against the US or the EU, or hell even both at the same time?

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Maybe because brazil does not need a world power and well they are just not that important in the political world. Brazil is friendly i agree and no one has the guts to launch a nuclear weapon anyway but having it is like a card you can put down in politics. Second brazil was never in a war like iran, constant psychological warfare.

So it is difficult to compare these two together i suggest you find a better comparsion please.

(salam)

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So you think that the theory of Mutually Assured Destruction is the best approach to politics?

With governments like the semi-theocratic Iranian government being involved in this game then who is to say that mutually assured destruction applies? After all, don't these hardliners in the government believe that religiouslly speaking they can affored to be killed, or sacrifice the entire Iranian population, as long as they die for Allah? Who is to say that Iran wouldn't launch a suicidal attack against the US or the EU, or hell even both at the same time?

Absolutely, This reductionist and upfront stance would benefit humanity way more than deceitful and moral based system of today. I believe that justice can only be reached between two parties only when they realize that a conflict would cost the both sides immensely and that they should step aside and find other avenues. It happened in the case of bayofPigs and in Kirgil between India and Pakistan. in the game of survival, morality and other man made overlays should take a backseat.

Iran and just about everyone else full well knows that a nuke attack on Israel or the US would bring back nukes that'd be thousand times more potent to their own land. So this logic of "Oh those guys are gonna attack just like that.." is nothing but propaganda by the only loosers of this whole deal- western elite. Because then they would actually be forced to sit and talk instead of their current ugly and unfruitful dance.

A system that manages to split the atom is a rational one to say the least.

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destruction of the West

No group funded by Iran has ever taken western life, and does not contribute to the destruction of western society. I think you are confusing Iran with Saudi Arabia, your country's most friendly ally.

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(bismillah)

Which militant group Iran funds that carries a philosophical antenna that advocates ‘western destruction’?

Who funds Al-Qaeda again? Oh that’s right, Saudi Royals and rich businessmen, Mr. Bush’s strongest allies.

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No group funded by Iran has ever taken western life, and does not contribute to the destruction of western society.

you are right, zahra kazmi , a canadian citizen was killed by the iranian government itself!

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No, Zahra Kazmi (who entered Iran as an Iranian citizen) was allegedly killed as a result of wounds and damage to the skull inflicted by Iranian prison guards. Since when were they apart of the Legislature or Executive? Besides, Ahamadinejad himself has said that the prison system in Iran isn't perfect, and is currently looking to reform it. Rodney King was beaten up by redneck cops, I don't run about saying he was tortured by the American government. This reminds me of a Chris Rock sketch:

"Martin Luther King was assassinated, Malcolm X was assassinated, JFK was assassinated. Tupac and Biggie weren't assassinated. Them two n****z got SHOT!"

Edited by Dr. Strangelove

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Why USrael Won't Fight Brazil's Nuke Program

Has anyone thought that maybe the US isn't against Brazil enriching Uranium because they haven't researched long range missiles to carry warheads, doesn't support terrorist groups, and doesn't scream "Death to America" and promise to "Wipe Israel off the face of the map?"

I mean, that's probably why... :unsure:

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It's because of the differences in governments between Brazil and Iran.

Brazil doesn't fund militant groups who are devoted to the destruction of the West and are classified as terrorists by international law. Brazil isn't led by a semi-theocratic "democracy" with philosophic interests that the West's enemies share.

Trying to compare the two is like trying to compare apples and oranges.

Who gave US the power in the first place to decide which governament is extremist and which is not?

If a theocracy is fully supported by the people of the country then who the heck US is to force its own laws on them? since no law is a perfect law.

Again we can not believe in your claims (probably supported by CIA's intelligence) that Iran is funding any militant groups.

Why is america openly supporting Israel when it is considered an enemy by almost all of the Muslim countries? shouldn't we impose sanctions on America first? why is enemy of the USA always considered the enemy of the whole world?

Lastly, both Iran and Brazil are doing the same thing but you hypocritically ignore the latter giving [Edited Out] reasons based solely on America's opinion about them.

Edited by Syed Mohsin Naqi

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Who gave US the power in the first place to decide which governament is extremist and which is not?

If a theocracy is fully supported by the people of the country then who the heck US is to force its own laws on them? since no law is a perfect law.

Again we can not believe in your claims (probably supported by CIA's intelligence) that Iran is funding any militant groups.

Why is america openly supporting Israel when it is considered an enemy by almost all of the Muslim countries? shouldn't we impose sanctions on America first? why is enemy of the USA always considered the enemy of the whole world?

Lastly, both Iran and Brazil are doing the same thing but you hypocritically ignore the latter giving [Edited Out] reasons based solely on America's opinion about them.

You don't believe Iran is supporting militant groups? Ask Ahmadinejad, his government's budget appropriations go to Hezbullah. That's not a secret at all my friend, and its also a pretty poorly kept secret that Islamic Jihad is buddy buddy with the Iranian govenment too. Not to mention Hamas and Fatah?

Furthermore you ask "who gave the U.S. the right to decide which governments are extremist and which are not" well, I'll answer that pretty simply. Every country in the world did. The U.S. exists as one of the permanent 5 members of the UN Security Council, the super-organization of enforcement and law of the international community.

When a nation has the power that the U.S. does, or Great Britain, or China, or Russia, then those nations have the ability to preserve their interests globally. That is not as cold and ruthless as it sounds. the U.S.'s interests are the defense against radical Islam and terrorism right now. The Iranian government gives direct support to organizations that the U.S. and the U.S.'s allies are opposed to. The development of a nuclear program by Iran places that risk factor of the opponent orgnaizations getting nuclear weapons.

Therefore, regardless of what anyone in Iran has to say about it, the U.S. and its allies will not permit Iran from developing a nuclear program. End of story.

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Trying to compare the two is like trying to compare apples and oranges.

ha their both fruit hmm how do u like them apples

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You don't believe Iran is supporting militant groups? Ask Ahmadinejad, his government's budget appropriations go to Hezbullah. That's not a secret at all my friend, and its also a pretty poorly kept secret that Islamic Jihad is buddy buddy with the Iranian govenment too. Not to mention Hamas and Fatah?

Yes and your point is what? Your government has funded the blood thirsty and fascist Israeli regimes for over four decades now, not to mention financially sustaining a criminal occupation of the West Bank.

Are we supposed to cry when Iran funds the oppressed? If you’re going to tell me that Iran is funding ‘terrorist’ groups then I’m going to tell you that your government is also funding a criminal regime that makes no secret in demolishing homes, killing journalists and financing a criminal and illegal occupation of Arab lands (this includes both the Shebaa farms and Golan Heights)

The Iranian government gives direct support to organizations that the U.S. and the U.S.'s allies are opposed to. The development of a nuclear program by Iran places that risk factor of the opponent orgnaizations getting nuclear weapons.

Oh I’m sorry, but since when did Russia and China consider Hamas or Hezbollah a ‘terrorist’ organization(s)?

Therefore, regardless of what anyone in Iran has to say about it, the U.S. and its allies will not permit Iran from developing a nuclear program. End of story.

Yeah well; Good luck with that. The same thing was said about North Korea but here we are.

(salam)

Edited by NoorFatima

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You don't believe Iran is supporting militant groups? Ask Ahmadinejad, his government's budget appropriations go to Hezbullah. That's not a secret at all my friend, and its also a pretty poorly kept secret that Islamic Jihad is buddy buddy with the Iranian govenment too. Not to mention Hamas and Fatah?

Furthermore you ask "who gave the U.S. the right to decide which governments are extremist and which are not" well, I'll answer that pretty simply. Every country in the world did. The U.S. exists as one of the permanent 5 members of the UN Security Council, the super-organization of enforcement and law of the international community.

When a nation has the power that the U.S. does, or Great Britain, or China, or Russia, then those nations have the ability to preserve their interests globally. That is not as cold and ruthless as it sounds. the U.S.'s interests are the defense against radical Islam and terrorism right now. The Iranian government gives direct support to organizations that the U.S. and the U.S.'s allies are opposed to. The development of a nuclear program by Iran places that risk factor of the opponent orgnaizations getting nuclear weapons.

Therefore, regardless of what anyone in Iran has to say about it, the U.S. and its allies will not permit Iran from developing a nuclear program. End of story.

(bismillah)

Have you ever considerd that there are lebanese business men who work with the jewish business men in new york in the gold/jewellry business. 3 million a month alone is sent to hamas from new york and no one says a word about it. This is a tychoon business the jews can never afford to lose the shia. In africa, Nigeria etc the gold business is run by the jews and lebanese. So what's the point of global controll when you can't secure your own land.

Mr.bush will not attack but he will push daddy's zapata business by making the barrel price higher and higher. This shameful when your people know nothing about what is going on? do they feed you MTV and sitcoms for you to watch and increase taxes along with consumer loans so you do not have time to look at what your politcians do. If infact fox news is run by a jewish man who is the best friend of the owner of Al-jazeera. Man they are a bunch of hyporcrites the lot of them. Iran will acquire all technology you will come discuss it on the table and that will be it period.

(salam)

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