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Salaam alaikum,

I think this might indirectly answer your question.

Sayid Khamene'i:

Question 340: Please answer the following questions:

First, what is the rule for Muslim students intermingling and shaking hands with students belonging to the deviant Baha'i sect at the primary, secondary, and high school levels, irrespective of whether they are boys or girls, mukallafor non-mukallaf, within or outside the school?

Second, what should be the behaviour of the teachers vis-a-vis students who either declare that they are Baha'is or are known to be such?

Third, what is the rule pertaining to using things used by all the students, such as drinking-water taps, latrine taps, pitchers, soap, etc., with the knowledge of presence of wetness on hands and the body.

A: All members of the deviant Baha 'i sect are considered najis and their coming into contact with something requires observing the rules of taharah in cases where taharah is required. But the behaviour of the headmasters and teachers with Baha'i students should be in accordance with the regulations and Islamic ethics.

Question 341: Please elucidate the duty of the believing men and women vis-a-vis the deviant Baha'i sect and the complications that arise due to the presence of the followers of this sect within Islamic society?

A: If is obligatory for all believers to counter the deceit and corruption of the deviant Baha 'i sect and to stop others from being misled and carried away by this deviant sect.

Question 342: At times the followers of the deviant Baha'i sect bring us food or something else. Is it permissible for us to use them?

A: It is not obligatory to return their gifts or refrain from accepting them, and in cases where you have a doubt that their bodies may have come into contact with these things in a state ofwetness, it is permissible for you to presume laharah. But you should try to guide them and lead them towards Islam.

Question 343: A large number of Baha'is live in our neighborhood and often visit our home. Some say that the Baha'is are najis while others say that they are clean. These Baha'is also exhibit good morals. Are they najis or clean?

A: They are najis, enemies of your religion and faith. So beware of them. my dear child.

WaSalaam, Hajar

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Is it okay to eat food from these people? There is a Irani restuarant near here and a friend of my claims the people who own it are Bahai. Is it okay to eat from them?

when i read these chats makes me sick and i am sure prophet muhammad would too that you guys think you are the best and christians and bahais and other religions should die and you are the best.

well think twice and if you are not happy go back to islamic country.

we need some freedom and respect . go back

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when i read these chats makes me sick and i am sure prophet muhammad would too that you guys think you are the best and christians and bahais and other religions should die and you are the best.

well think twice and if you are not happy go back to islamic country.

we need some freedom and respect . go back

are you bahai ? well you also need a brain.

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(salam),

Iran Prince:

I agree. But you seem to be taking the Najis bit, a bit far. Nobody said that people of other faiths should die, or be killed. Dogs are Najis - does not mean all them should be killed.

Naro:

Mind your language. If you continue like this, I'm afraid the date you get banned, will not be very far.

(wasalam)

Basim Ali Jafri

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when i read these chats makes me sick and i am sure prophet muhammad would too that you guys think you are the best and christians and bahais and other religions should die and you are the best.

well think twice and if you are not happy go back to islamic country.

we need some freedom and respect . go back

Oh pipe down with your stereotypical, ridiculous, anti-islamic, pathethic nonsense. "Go back to islamic country we need freedom and respect". There is so much garbage in that statement that i dont have to even respond to it, as it belongs to the trashcan like my takeaway.

Prophet Muhammad would curse Bahais and their dajjal false prophet. In fact he warned of 30 dajjal false prophets coming before the great Dajjal antichrist.

Stop your melodramatic, lying propoganda statements of "all muslims want christians and bahais to die". We do not try to show we are the best, and we dont want you to die. "La Ikra fid deen" is commanded in the Quran which means there is no compulsion in religion so you may freely do whatever you like. Basically we just dont pay attention to what you do because we simply dont care about you and your Bahaism. You dont want to be muslim, who cares! Allah will judge accordingly, and send to the hellfire the Dajjal false prophets.

O and please dont bring christians into this. Christians and Jews are Ahlul Kitab and pak and pure individuals. Bahais are Najis kafir.

Naro:

Mind your language. If you continue like this, I'm afraid the date you get banned, will not be very far.

(wasalam)

Basim Ali Jafri

What so mr iranprince saying "go back to islamic country" is ok then??

O mr Iranprince and other Bahais this is for you:

The Quran

2:1

Alif-Lam-Mim.

2:2

This is the Book (the Quran), whereof there is no doubt, a guidance to those who are Al-Muttaqun [the pious and righteous persons who fear Allah much (abstain from all kinds of sins and evil deeds which He has forbidden) and love Allah much (perform all kinds of good deeds which He has ordained)].

2:3

Who believe in the Ghaib (unseen) and perform As-Salat (Iqamat-as-Salat), and spend out of what we have provided for them [i.e. give Zakat , spend on themselves, their parents, their children, their wives, etc., and also give charity to the poor and also in Allah's Cause - Jihad, etc.].

2:4

And who believe in (the Quran and the Sunnah) which has been sent down (revealed) to you (Muhammad Peace be upon him ) and in [the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel), etc.] which were sent down before you and they believe with certainty in the Hereafter. (Resurrection, recompense of their good and bad deeds, Paradise and Hell, etc.).

2:5

They are on (true) guidance from their Lord, and they are the successful.

2:6

Verily, those who disbelieve, it is the same to them whether you (O Muhammad Peace be upon him ) warn them or do not warn them, they will not believe.

2:7

Allah has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearings, (i.e. they are closed from accepting Allah's Guidance), and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be a great torment.

2:8

And of mankind, there are some (hypocrites) who say: "We believe in Allah and the Last Day" while in fact they believe not.

2:9

They (think to) deceive Allah and those who believe, while they only deceive themselves, and perceive (it) not!

2:10

In their hearts is a disease (of doubt and hypocrisy) and Allah has increased their disease. A painful torment is theirs because they used to tell lies.

2:11

And when it is said to them: "Make not mischief on the earth," they say: "We are only peacemakers."

2:12

Verily! They are the ones who make mischief, but they perceive not.

2:13

And when it is said to them (hypocrites): "Believe as the people (followers of Muhammad Peace be upon him , Al-Ansar and Al-Muhajirun) have believed," they say: "Shall we believe as the fools have believed?" Verily, they are the fools, but they know not.

2:14

And when they meet those who believe, they say: "We believe," but when they are alone with their Shayatin (devils - polytheists, hypocrites, etc.), they say: "Truly, we are with you; verily, we were but mocking."

2:15

Allah mocks at them and gives them increase in their wrong-doings to wander blindly.

2:16

These are they who have purchased error for guidance, so their commerce was profitless. And they were not guided.

2:17

Their likeness is as the likeness of one who kindled a fire; then, when it lighted all around him, Allah took away their light and left them in darkness. (So) they could not see.

2:18They are deaf, dumb, and blind, so they return not (to the Right Path).

2:23

And if you (Arab pagans, Jews, and Christians) are in doubt concerning that which We have sent down (i.e. the Quran) to Our slave (Muhammad Peace be upon him ), then produce a Surah (chapter) of the like thereof and call your witnesses (supporters and helpers) besides Allah, if you are truthful.

2:24

But if you do it not, and you can never do it, then fear the Fire (Hell) whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.

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Basim Ali is only 14 years old dont take him seriously

(bismillah) (salam)

Really? Basim Ali is a valued member of shiachat and he provides help more than anybody like you. So maybe your the one we shoudn't take seriously.

(wasalam)

^ lol ok lets call the whole thing off

(salam)

You were scared i was going to get started about the WF. good call.

(wasalam)

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(bismillah)

(salam)

To those who have not read my post above, read it. Firstly to those defending Bahais:

Bahaism has been in opposition to Islam from the moment it was founded. Siyyid Ali Muhammad Shirazi (the Bab) was a merchant from Shiraz, Persia, who at the age of 25, claimed to be a new and independent Manifestation of God, and the promised Mahdi

Bahaiullah claimed that in 1853, while a prisoner in Tehran, he was visited by a "Maid of Heaven", which symbolically marked the beginning of his mission as a Messenger of God. Ten years later in 1863 as he was leaving Baghdad he made his first public declaration to be Him Whom God Shall Make Manifest, the messianic figure in the Babs writings

in 1866 Bahaiullah made his claim to be Him Whom God Shall Make Manifest public but in a broader sense claimed to be a messenger from God referring to the fulfilment of the eschatological expectations of Islam, Christianity, and other major religions.

Bahaiullah declared that he was the "Promised One" of all religions, fulfilling the messianic prophecies found in world religions. He claimed to be the messiah of Judaism, the promised Christ from Christianity, the return of Zoroastriam messiah Shah Bahram Varjavand, he claimed to be Imam Husayn returned ; from Sunni Islam, the return of Jesus (Isa); and from Bab He whom God shall make manifest.

`Abdu'l-Baha;, Bahaiullahs son, stated that Bahaiullah was the Kalki avatar, who is the tenth incarnation of Vishnu. Bahais also believe that Bahaiullah is the fulfilmet of the prophecy of appearance of the Maitreya Buddha.

Bahaism was heavily supported and promoted by the USA and also given support by Israel. Bahaiullahs shrine is in fact in Hafia, Israel

Bahaism is Kufr, Murtad, and a Dajjal religion. Bab and Bahaiullah were both dajjals. Mirza Qadiani founder of the other kufr and murtad group Ahmadiyya was also a dajjal

Bahaism was heavily supported and promoted by the USA and also given support by Israel. Bahaiullahs shrine is in fact in Hafia, Israel

May Allahs curse of torment in the lowest gate of Hellfire be upon the Dajjals.

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YaHossein, you have made me laugh for some reason,

you seem to understand the underlying ideas behind his thinking process.

Bahai or not Bahai, I have never eaten in an Iranian restaurant outside of Iran, and i suggest you also do not. You can spend your money much better on Muslim restaurants in Western countries that have these birdy sounds playing instead of pop music and you will be helping him with your money while remaining assured he does not curse or hate islam or our Foqaha. Usually the food is much better prepared and given more attention also. This is my personal experience.

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Basim Ali is only 14 years old dont take him seriously

Fine! Don't bother with me, for all I care.

Oh and just to clear up things a bit. I'm in NO way defending Baha'is. However, when a Baha'i and a Muslim seem to disagree on a matter, and the Baha'i is right, I will not choose the Muslim, because he's my brother in faith, especially when he's insulting the other guy, for his faith.

Basim Ali Jafri

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