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Abu Harayra accompanied the Prophet Mohammad (a.s.) for LESS THEN two years, and yet, 5374 hadiths are narrated by him (that means he memorized more then 7 hadiths per day and 224 hadiths per month!, assuming he was with the Prophet every single day, which is also impossible) By contrast, Umar narrates only 537 hadith, (10% of Abu Harayra's) and was with the Prophet Mohammad (a.s.) MORE THEN TEN TIMES LONGER (23 years).

SOURCE: http://www.submission.org/Abu Hurayra.htm

So how is that possible? Do most Sunni's accept Abu Harayra as a reliable transmitter of hadith? Maybe you should read this before answering.

" In the famous book "Taa'oueel Mukhtalaf Alhadith " by Ibn Qutaiba Al-Dinory,

the story of Aisha (the Prophet's wife) telling Abu Hurayra; " You tell ahadiths

about the prophet Muhammed that we never heard them from him"

He answered (as Bukhary reported); "You (Aisha) were busy with your mirror and

make up" She (Aisha) answered him; "It is you who were busy with your stomach

and hunger. Your hunger kept you busy, you were running after the people in

the allies, begging them for food, and they used to avoid you and get away from your way, and finally you would come back and pass out infront of my room and the people think you were crazy and step all over you."

So if poor Abu Harayra was spending most of his time begging for food, how could he be spending enough time with the Prophet Mohammad to memorize over 224 hadiths per month (a difficult feet on a full stomuch, much less and empty one)???

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aasalamu alaykum

abu hurayra , wrote more hadiths than Imam Ali (as) , umar uthman abu bakr and aiysha combined , and they were with him much more than abu hurayra

i saw a book sometime ago , called abu hurayra , and it showed his hadiths and how they contradicted many things including Quran...

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Why did some companions narrated more traditions than the others? Could you give information on them?

God Almighty created people with different dispositions and potentials so that human social life may be maintained through mutual help and division of labor. Therefore, as in every community, there were among the Companions, besides good farmers and successful tradesmen or businessmen, those who were inclined to learning or to commanding armies, or who were endowed with administrative ability. Some of them, especially those who were called Ashab al-Suffa (those who stayed in the ante-chamber of the Mosque of the Prophet) never missed the teaching of God’s Messenger and tried to memorize his every word. These Companions later narrated to people whatever they heard from, or witnessed in, God’s Messenger, upon him be peace and blessings. Fortunately, they outlived the others by God’s Will and, together with ‘A’isha, Mother of Believers, may God be pleased with her, constituted the first, golden channel through which the Sunna of the Prophet was handed down to future generations. The following is a brief description of their characters and lives:

Abu Hurayra, may God be pleased with him

Abu Hurayra was from the tribe of Daws in the Yemen. He became a Muslim in the early days of the seventh year of Hijra at the hands of Tufayl ibn ‘Amr, the chief of his tribe.

When Abu Hurayra emigrated to Madina, God’s Messenger was on the campaign of Khaybar. He joined him in Khaybar. God’s Messenger changed his name, ‘Abd al-Shams, into ‘Abd al-Rahman, saying: A man is not the slave of either the sun or moon.

Abu Hurayra was very poor and modest. One day God’s Messenger saw him with a cat in his arms and nicknamed him Abu Hirr, meaning the father or owner of a cat, and people began to call him Abu Hurayra. However, he liked to be called Abu Hirr, since this title was given to him by God’s Messenger, upon him be peace and blessings.159

Abu Hurayra lived together with his mother and desired very much that his mother too should be a Muslim. One day he went to God’s Messenger and asked him to pray for the conversion of his mother. The Messenger, upon him be peace and blessings, stretched out his arms to pray and, before he lowered them, Abu Hurayra ran to his house. He believed that the prayer of the Messenger would not be rejected. When he arrived home, his mother stopped him at the door. She was doing the total ritual ablution. After the ablution, she opened the door and proclaimed the confession of faith: There is no deity but God and Muhammad is the Messenger of God.

After his mother’s conversion, Abu Hurayra requested God’s Messenger to pray to God that believers should love him and his mother. God’s Messenger did so.160 Therefore, love of Abu Hurayra is a mark of belief. Believers love him.

Abu Hurayra had an extraordinarily keen memory. He slept in the first third of night; in the second third he prayed and did his daily supererogatory recitations and, in the last third he went over the Traditions he had memorized in order never to forget them.

Abu Hurayra had in memory more than five thousand Traditions. He always attended the discourses of God’s Messenger and had a great inclination to learn his Traditions. Also, he was a lover of knowledge. One day, he was praying in the mosque, ‘O God, grant me knowledge I will never forget’, when God’s Messenger heard him and said, O God, Amen!161 Again, one day he went to the Messenger and said, ‘O Messenger of God! I want to not forget anything I hear from you.’ The Messenger asked him to take off his cloak and spread it on the ground, which Abu Hurayra did. The Messenger then prayed and emptied his hands out onto the cloak as if he had filled them with something from the Unseen. Then, he ordered Abu Hurayra to fold up the cloak again and to hold it to his breast, which he did. After narrating this incident, Abu Hurayra used to say: ‘I folded it up again and held it to my breast. I swear by God that [since then] I have not forgotten anything I heard from God’s Messenger, upon him be peace and blessings.’162

Abu Hurayra paid no heed to the world. He usually fasted three or four days successively without eating anything because of poverty. Sometimes he writhed with hunger on the ground and said to those passing by, ‘Istaqra’tuka,’163 which means both ‘Will you not recite to me some Qur’an?’ and ‘Will you not feed me?’ Ja’far Tayyar understood him better than anybody else and took him as a guest.164 Abu Hurayra endured all such hardships with becoming patience for the sake of Hadith. To those who sometimes warned him, saying, ‘You are narrating too many Traditions’, he used to reply in utmost sincerity: ‘While my Emigrant brothers were busy in the bazaar doing business, and my Helper brothers with farming, I tried to keep my soul and body together to keep company with God’s Messenger, upon him be peace and blessings.’165 He also responded to such objections: ‘Were it not for the verse, Those who conceal the clear signs and the guidance that We have sent down, after We have shown them clearly in the Book, they shall be cursed by God and the curses. (al-Baqara, 2.159) I would not narrate anything.’166

Some claim that other Companions were opposed to Abu Hurayra’s narrating Hadith. This is obviously groundless. For many Companions like Abu Ayyub Al-Ansari, ‘Abdullah ibn ‘Umar, ‘Abdul-lah ibn ‘Abbas, Jabir ibn ‘Abdullah Al-Ansari, Anas ibn Malik and Wasila ibn Aslam narrated from him many Traditions. Some asked Abu Ayyub al-Ansari why he narrated from Abu Hurayra despite his earlier conversion. Abu Ayyub used to answer them: ‘He heard from God’s Messenger many things that we did not hear.’167

Apart from those Companions who narrated Traditions from Abu Hurayra, many leading figures of the first generation following the Companions also received from him numerous Traditions. Among them were Hasan al-Basri, Zayd ibn Aslam, Sa‘id ibn al-Musayyib, who took Abu Hurayra’s daughter in marriage in order to benefit from him more, Sa‘id ibn Yasar, Sa‘id al-Makburi, Sulayman ibn Yasar, Sha‘bi, who received Traditions from five hundred Companions, Muhammad ibn Abi Bakr, Qasim ibn Muhammad, who is accepted as a link in the chain of the spiritual guides of the Nak-shbandi way. Hammam ibn Munabbih and Muhammad ibn Munkadir were the most famous. The number of those who received Traditions from Abu Hurayra amounts to eight hundred.168

‘Umar appointed Abu Hurayra as a governer to Bahrayn. However, when he made a small amount of wealth by trade during his period of office, ‘Umar summoned him from office for investigation. He was found guiltless and ‘Umar wanted him to return to his office, but Abu Hurayra declined, saying: ‘That is enough for me as a governor.’169

Abu Hurayra, may God be pleased with him, despite claims to the contrary by biased Orientalists such as Goldziher, and their blind followers in the Muslim world like Ahmad Amin, Abu Rayya and ‘Ali ‘Abd al-Razzaq, was never against ‘Ali in favour of the Umayyads. He should have supported ‘Ali in the internal conflicts in order that seditions should be crushed but he preferred to remain neu-tral. He narrated from God’s Messenger this hadith: Seditions will appear, during which the one who sits [silent] is better than the one who stands [to participate in them]; the one who stands is better than him who walks [to take part in them], and the one who walks is better than him who runs [in them].170 This hadith might not have been related to the internal conflicts during the Caliphate of ‘Ali. However, Abu Hurayra was of the opinion that it was related to those conflicts and he joined neither side.

Abu Hurayra was opposed to the government of the Umayyads. He stood in front of Marwan ibn Hakam and narrated to him the hadith: The destruction of my Community will be in the hands of a few callow (young) men from the Quraysh.171 Marwan responded to him, saying: ‘May God’s curse be upon them!’, pretending not to have understood whom Abu Hurayra meant. However, Abu Hurayra added: ‘If you like, I can inform you of their names and characteristicss.’

He was frequently heard to pray in public: ‘O God, do not make me live until the sixtieth year (of the Hijra).’172 This supplication of his was so famous among people that whoever saw Abu Hurayra recalled it. He had heard from God’s Messenger that some inexperienced, sinful young men would begin to rule the Muslim Umma in the year sixty after the Hijra. Abu Hurayra died in the year of fifty-nine and Yazid succeeded Mu‘awiya one year later.

It is futile to try to show that, unlike other Companions, ‘A’isha, Mother of Believers, was op-posed to Abu Hurayra’s narration of the Prophetic Traditions: she was not. Both ‘A’isha and Abu Hurayra lived a long life and, except the following, there is not an incident showing that ‘A’isha criticized Abu Hurayra for his narrations. Once, Abu Hurayra was narrating Traditions in the vicinity of ‘A’isha’s room, while ‘A’isha was praying. After the prayer, ‘A’isha came out only to find that Abu Hurayra had left. She remarked: ‘The Traditions of God’s Messenger should not be narrated in this way, one after another,’173 meaning that they should be narrated slowly and distinctly in order that the listeners could understand and memorize them.

Some claim that Imam Abu Hanifa said: ‘I do not take the opinions of three Companions as evi-dence in jurisprudence. Abu Hurayra is one of them’. This is simply a lie told against Abu Hanifa. Al-lama Ibn Humam, who is one of the greatest jurists of the Hanafi School, regarded Abu Hurayra as a significant jurist. Besides, there is nothing to prove that Abu Hanifa said that.

Abu Hurayra narrated more than five thousand Traditions. When gathered together, they make perhaps a volume one and a half times the length of the Qur’an. There are numerous people who have memorized the Qur’an in six months or even quicker. Abu Hurayra had a very keen memory and spent four years with God’s Messenger, upon him be peace and blessings, who prayed for the strength of Abu Hurayra’s memory. It would be tantamount to accusing Abu Hurayra of deficient intelligence to claim that he could not have memorized around five thousand Traditions. In addition, all of the Tradi-tions he narrated were not directly from God’s Messenger himself. As leading Companions like Abu Bakr, ‘Umar, Ubayy ibn Ka‘b, ‘A’isha and Abu Ayyub al-Ansari narrated from him, he also received Traditions from them.

While Abu Hurayra was narrating Traditions in the presence of Marwan ibn Hakam, at different times, the latter had them written down by his secretary secretly. Some times later, he asked Abu Hurayra to repeat the Traditions he had already narrated to him. Abu Hurayra began, ‘In the name of God, the All- Merciful, the All-Compassionate’, and narrated the same Traditions exactly with the same wording.174 So, those who criticize Abu Hurayra for narrating the Prophetic Traditions should be ashamed and silenced.

159. I. Hajar, 4.202.

160. Muslim, Fada’il al-Sahaba, 158; I. Sa‘d, 4.328.

161. Hakim, Mustadrak, 3.508.

162. Muslim, “Fada’il al-Sahaba,” 159; I. Sa‘d, 4.329, 330.

163. Bukhari, “At‘ima,” 1.

164. Bukhari, “Fada’il al-Ashab,” 10.

165. Bukhari, “‘Ilm,” 42; Muslim, “Fada’il al-Sahaba,” 159; I. Sa‘d, 4.332.

166. I. Sa‘d, 4.330–1.

167. Hakim, 3.512; I. Kathir, al-Bidaya, 8.109.

168. I. Hajar, 4.205.

169. I. Sa‘d, 4.335–6; I. Athir, 6.321; I. Hajar, 4.210.

170. Bukhari, “Fitan,” 9; Muslim, “Fitan,” 10.

171. Bukhari, “Fitan,” 3; I. Hanbal, 2.288.

172. I. Kathir, 8.122.

173. Muslim, “Fada’il al-Sahaba,” 160.

174. Hakim, “Mustadrak,” 3.509–10.

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well u need some justifications for the father of the cat.

so there are ur excuses........all refutes..makes no sense

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there is not an incident showing that ‘A’isha criticized Abu Hurayra for his narrations.

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" In the famous book "Taa'oueel Mukhtalaf Alhadith " by Ibn Qutaiba Al-Dinory,

the story of Aisha (the Prophet's wife) telling Abu Hurayra; " You tell ahadiths

about the prophet Muhammed that we never heard them from him"..."It is you who were busy with your stomach

and hunger. Your hunger kept you busy, you were running after the people in

the allies, begging them for food, and they used to avoid you and get away from your way, and finally you would come back and pass out infront of my room and the people think you were crazy and step all over you."

That's just about the strangest compliment I've ever heard!

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and to claim that love of Abu Hurayra is a mark of belief (reference 160 in the article) :huh: that's a new one!

Also, the poster of the article should provide the link, and not the article, as the forum has rules about lengthy c&p

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Here is a couple of his masterpieces that look strange too me...

Of couse I copy and paste from USC-MSA and it isn't a sufficient scholarly resource.

But the words are in english, easily searchable and clear enough to gauge the situation.

Bukari

Volume 6, Book 60, Number 372:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

(that the Prophet said) "It will be said to the Hell, 'Are you filled?' It will say, 'Are there any more (to come)?' On that Allah will put His Foot on it, and it will say 'Qati! Qati! (Enough! Enough!)."

Bukari

Volume 1, Book 3, Number 119:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

I said to Allah's Apostle "I hear many narrations (Hadiths) from you but I forget them." Allah's Apostle said, "Spread your Rida' (garment)." I did accordingly and then he moved his hands as if filling them with something (and emptied them in my Rida') and then said, "Take and wrap this sheet over your body." I did it and after that I never forgot any thing.

CAUGHT?

Muslim:

Book 026, Number 5510:

Abu Salama h. 'Abd al-Rahman b. 'Auf reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: There is no transitive disease, but he is also reported to have said: A sick person should not be taken to one who is healthy. Abu Salama said that Abu Huraira used to narrate these two (different ahadith) from Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him), but afterwards Abu Huraira became silent on these words:" There is no transitive disease," but he stuck to this that the sick person should not be taken to one who is healthy. Harith b. Abu Dhubab (and he was the first cousin of Abu Huraira) said: Abu Huraira, I used to hear from you that you narrated to us along with this hadith and the other one also (there is no transitive disease), but now you observe silence about it. You used to say that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: There is no transitive disease. Abu Huraira denied having any knowledge of that, but he said that the sick camel should not be taken to the healthy one. Harith, however, did not agree with him, which irritated Abu Huraira and he said to him some words in the Abyssinian language. He said to Harith: Do you know what I said to you? He said: No. Abu Huraira said: I simply denied having said it. Abu Salama sad: By my life, Abu Huraira in fact used to report Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) having said: There is no transitive disease. I do not know whether Abu Huraira has forgotten it or he deemed it an abrogated statement in the light of the other one.

Bukari

Volume 7, Book 71, Number 615:

Narrated Abu Huraira:

Allah's Apostle said, 'There is no 'Adha (no disease is conveyed from the sick to the healthy without Allah's permission), nor Safar, nor Hama." A bedouin stood up and said, "Then what about my camels? They are like deer on the sand, but when a mangy camel comes and mixes with them, they all get infected with mangy." The Prophet said, "Then who conveyed the (mange) disease to the first one?"

So what I got was one hadith ascribing to Allah that he has limbs,

This companion will never forget anything.. Then he gets caught either lying or forgetting, then a hadith from another book with his statement that he forgot or denied...

Excuse me and delete if this is too much text.....

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isnt that submissioin.org site kinda weird? i read a few things on there a long time ago that didnt sound like the most islamic things.

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Yeh, they are a dodgy cult that believe the current Quran is not 100% correct. They have taken out a few verses that didn't fit in with their number 19 rule and made this edited piece their Quran. Their founder is a false prophet, he predicts stuff and his predictions failed. he was assasinated a while back by 'extremist' muslims.

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and to claim that love of Abu Hurayra is a mark of belief (reference 160 in the article) :huh: that's a new one!

Also, the poster of the article should provide the link, and not the article, as the forum has rules about lengthy c&p

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We are Sunnis.We follow the sunah of (pbuh).His prayers were never left unanswered.So due to his praying,only believers can love Hz.Abu Huryra, may God be pleased with him. :)

As for forum rules.It is not mentioned in the ten things to be avoided.Although it is mentioned that one should not answer in weird one liners. :)

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(bismillah)

(salam)

Abu Hurayra (ra) is the most respect of sunni sahabas of Prophet, and shias deliberately mock him to make sunnis angry. What did Abu Hurayra (ra) do against the Prophet (pbuh) and his Ahlul Bayt (as)?

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(bismillah)

(salam)

Abu Hurayra (ra) is the most respect of sunni sahabas of Prophet

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So in your words, he is higher than abu bakr? You explain why he should be given respect and honour. In my view abu hanifa, the well known student of Jafar Sadiq (as), and also one of the founders of the four sunni schools of thought, deserves more respect than huraira. Apart from writing a multitude of unauthentic narrations what else did huraira do?

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Apart from writing a multitude of unauthentic narrations what else did huraira do?

That is what you think, and is your opinion. Abu hurayra (ra) did narrate authentic narrations.

And you still haven't answered a simple question : What did Abu Hurrayra (ra) do that shias hate him so much?

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That is what you think, and is your opinion. Abu hurayra (ra) did narrate authentic narrations.

I never said that huraira fabricated each and every narration he wrote.

And you still haven't answered a simple question : What did Abu Hurrayra (ra) do that shias hate him so much?

Could you define what you mean by "hate"? Well, anybody who fabricates narrations and passes them on to be the sayings of Rasool (pbuh) deserves to hated until doomsday.

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What did Abu Hurrayra (ra) do that shias hate him so much?

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We don't hate him, we REJECT HIM as an authentic narrator of hadith. The only reason that we (Shia) keep talking about him is because he is a well known fabricator of hadith (even many Sunni's admit this, especially Sunni scholars who have analyzed many of his strange, illogical and contradictory hadith) WHO HAS MORE RECORDED HADITH THEN ABU BAKER, UMAR, IMAM ALI (A.S.) AND UTHMAN COMBINED.

If you believed the money in your wallet was genuine and someone pointed out to you that it was conterfeit you would thank them, right? So why do you criticise us for uncovering unreliable transmitters of hadith when you should be thanking us???

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(bismillah)

(salam)

Abu Harayra accompanied the Prophet Mohammad (a.s.) for LESS THEN two years, and yet, 5374 hadiths are narrated by him (that means he memorized more then 7 hadiths per day and 224 hadiths per month!, assuming he was with the Prophet every single day, which is also impossible) By contrast, Umar narrates only 537 hadith, (10% of Abu Harayra's) and was with the Prophet Mohammad (a.s.) MORE THEN TEN TIMES LONGER (23 years).

SOURCE: http://www.submission.org/Abu Hurayra.htm

So how is that possible? Do most Sunni's accept Abu Harayra as a reliable transmitter of hadith? Maybe you should read this before answering.

" In the famous book "Taa'oueel Mukhtalaf Alhadith " by Ibn Qutaiba Al-Dinory,

the story of Aisha (the Prophet's wife) telling Abu Hurayra; " You tell ahadiths

about the prophet Muhammed that we never heard them from him"

He answered (as Bukhary reported); "You (Aisha) were busy with your mirror and

make up" She (Aisha) answered him; "It is you who were busy with your stomach

and hunger. Your hunger kept you busy, you were running after the people in

the allies, begging them for food, and they used to avoid you and get away from your way, and finally you would come back and pass out infront of my room and the people think you were crazy and step all over you."

So if poor Abu Harayra was spending most of his time begging for food, how could he be spending enough time with the Prophet Mohammad to memorize over 224 hadiths per month (a difficult feet on a full stomuch, much less and empty one)???

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Forgive my ignorance, can you say something about Ibn Qutaiba Al-Dinory, his school of taught, his weight as a scholar..Also the reference of Bukhary you are quoting

Jazaka Allah Khayran

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We don't hate him, we REJECT HIM as an authentic narrator of hadith. The only reason that we (Shia) keep talking about him is because he is a well known fabricator of hadith (even many Sunni's admit this, especially Sunni scholars who have analyzed many of his strange, illogical and contradictory hadith) WHO HAS MORE RECORDED HADITH THEN ABU BAKER, UMAR, IMAM ALI  (A.S.) AND UTHMAN COMBINED.

If you believed the money in your wallet was genuine and someone pointed out to you that it was conterfeit you would thank them, right? So why do you criticise us for uncovering unreliable transmitters of hadith when you should be thanking us???

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Since when shias started believing in Sunni hadeeth books?You have your books(shias have cleverly never call any hadeeth book authentic,but without these unauthentic hadeeth book,there is no shiaism :) )and we have ours.

You don't even recognize Bukhari sharif as authentic and we say shia don't have a single Mu[Edited Out]ir Sahi hadeeth.

So what are you trying to prove here?That you don't believe in Sunni hadeeth?I am surprised. :)

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Forgive my ignorance, can you say something about Ibn Qutaiba Al-Dinory, his school of taught, his weight as a scholar..Also the reference of Bukhary you are quoting

Jazaka Allah Khayran

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Although it appears that THIS PARTICULAR scholar is relatively obscure (as all of the quotes I goggled reference the same hadith), here are some additonal references that make the EXACT SAME POINT from more well-known scholars and sources.

‘Aisha is reported as having said to Abu Hurayra, "[T]he next time you undertake to repeat the words of the Prophet, watch out what you recount,"

Imam Zarkashi, Al-Ijaba li ‘irada ma istadrakathu ‘A’isha ala al-sahaba (2nd ed. 1980) p.118.

"[Aisha said] "Abu Hurayra, you relate Hadith that you never heard.""

ibn Hajar, op cit., vol.7, p.440.

" Muslim mentioned that Abdul Melik bin Abu Bakr said that Abu Bakr had said: "I heard Abu Hurayra narrating in his stories : "Whoever was impure when it dawned, he was not to fast." I told Abdur Rahman of that and he asked his father. His father denied it. Abdur Rahman and I went to Aa'isha and Um Salama (the Prophet's wives). Abdur Rahman asked them and said to me: "Both of them said that the Prophet became impure in the morning without a wet dream and he fasted. Then we went to Marwan, who was the wali of Medina by Mu'awiya. Abdur Rahman told Marwan of that. Marwan said: "I ask you to go to Abu Hurayra to refute his saying." We went to Abu Hurayra. Abdur Rahman told him that. He said: "Did they (the Prophet's wives) say that?" he said: "Yes, they did." Abu Hurayra said: "They knew more than me. I heard that from al-Fadhl and didn't hear it from the Prophet (s)." He changed his mind and ascribed the tradition to al-Fadhl."

Muslim's Sahih, vol.1, p.p. 412.

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(bismillah)

(salam)

Abu Harayra accompanied the Prophet Mohammad (a.s.) for LESS THEN two years, and yet, 5374 hadiths are narrated by him (that means he memorized more then 7 hadiths per day and 224 hadiths per month!, assuming he was with the Prophet every single day, which is also impossible) By contrast, Umar narrates only 537 hadith, (10% of Abu Harayra's) and was with the Prophet Mohammad (a.s.) MORE THEN TEN TIMES LONGER (23 years).

SOURCE: http://www.submission.org/Abu Hurayra.htm

So how is that possible? Do most Sunni's accept Abu Harayra as a reliable transmitter of hadith? Maybe you should read this before answering.

" In the famous book "Taa'oueel Mukhtalaf Alhadith " by Ibn Qutaiba Al-Dinory,

the story of Aisha (the Prophet's wife) telling Abu Hurayra; " You tell ahadiths

about the prophet Muhammed that we never heard them from him"

He answered (as Bukhary reported); "You (Aisha) were busy with your mirror and

make up" She (Aisha) answered him; "It is you who were busy with your stomach

and hunger. Your hunger kept you busy, you were running after the people in

the allies, begging them for food, and they used to avoid you and get away from your way, and finally you would come back and pass out infront of my room and the people think you were crazy and step all over you."

So if poor Abu Harayra was spending most of his time begging for food, how could he be spending enough time with the Prophet Mohammad to memorize over 224 hadiths per month (a difficult feet on a full stomuch, much less and empty one)???

saudi radio was having a program called "mujizat el nabi" (miracles of the prophet).on one edition of that program,the sheikh narrated that the prophet (pbuh) prayed for abu hurairah to have a good memory and narrate such large amount of hadiths.thus thats another miracle of the prophet (pbuh) .concerning abu huraira,the prophet (pbuh) also made a supplication for his mother to become a muslim which she became.thus another miracle.

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Well I can bring a loooooooooong list of ahadeeth that Abou Horayra narrated from the Prophet (pbuh) that clearly contradict with the Quran :!!!:

Hence, many forged ahadeeth and lies were presented by Abou Horayra

(bismillah)

(salam)

lol....abu hurayrah abu hurayrah abu hurayrah...another wonderful specimen or like iraqis say "tu7fat il zamaan wil makaan".

That day this wahhabi girl told me that before he died, Abu Hurayrah said the hadiths he had narrated were only 1/3 rd of how much he had heard from the Rasool but he didn't have time to narrate the rest". :squeez:

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(bismillah) (salam)

Why I have so many url Blocked :(

Anywayz I cant read both the links Brother Ali Zaki.

That day this wahhabi girl told me that before he died, Abu Hurayrah said the hadiths he had narrated were only 1/3 rd of how much he had heard from the Rasool but he didn't have time to narrate the rest". :squeez:

Hehe I think all those which he narrated where from his pocket or Bag but those ORGINALLY FROM Prophet (pbuh) Abu Hurayrah was unable to narrate[unfortunately]....Lack of time given By Allah Almighty to him :D :P

Wassalam.

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(bismillah) (salam)

Why I have so many url Blocked :(

Anywayz I cant read both the links Brother Ali Zaki.

Hehe I think all those which he narrated where from his pocket or Bag but those ORGINALLY FROM Prophet (pbuh) Abu Hurayrah was unable to narrate[unfortunately]....Lack of time given By Allah Almighty to him :D :P

Wassalam.

(salam) Sister,

I checked my latest link and it works for me. You're not living in Saudi Arabia by any chance?? Maybe they got Google to help them like China did.

Anyway, regarding Abu Harayra not being able to transmit more hadith ALHAMDULLILAH! Allah (s.w.a.) is Merciful!

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" In the famous book "Taa'oueel Mukhtalaf Alhadith " by Ibn Qutaiba Al-Dinory,

the story of Aisha (the Prophet's wife) telling Abu Hurayra; " You tell ahadiths

about the prophet Muhammed that we never heard them from him"..."It is you who were busy with your stomach

and hunger. Your hunger kept you busy, you were running after the people in

the allies, begging them for food, and they used to avoid you and get away from your way, and finally you would come back and pass out infront of my room and the people think you were crazy and step all over you."

That's just about the strangest compliment I've ever heard!

Extremely Interesting!!!!!

Wassalam.

(salam) Sister,

I checked my latest link and it works for me. You're not living in Saudi Arabia by any chance?? Maybe they got Google to help them like China did.

Anyway, regarding Abu Harayra not being able to transmit more hadith ALHAMDULLILAH! Allah (s.w.a.) is Merciful!

I dont need to mention where I live as till now many can guess very nicely :D

Yes Allah Almighty is very very Merciful :)

Wassalam.

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