Al-Askariya Shrine damaged by Explosives!

[Abbas_Zaidi]

That's what i am talking about, foreign involvement.

How can we deny a tiny possibility of iran organising such acts against the shrines insomuch that they take over ? Why blame the sunnis when there are foreign powers like iranians involved ? :sick:

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Can u keep ur idiotic thoughts to urself...We are all hurt and in mourning so plz refrain from insulting Iranian brothers...

[Uninspired]

30 years of Baathist rule has shown who has oppressed, and who has been opressed.

Yo, shias have been "oppressed" only after they try to overthrow the saddam govt. by hoping to get the west involved in the revolution attempt in 91, like they are hoping to get west involved in them governing the country nowadays.

[Uninspired]

We are all hurt and in mourning so plz refrain from insulting Iranian brothers...

Seriously, there is no need to mourn so get over it and rebuild the shrine ASAP. Seriously, it won't even take a month !

[Kizilbash]

I hope all those who supported the War and the current Occupation of the Holy land of our Imams (as) are satisfied with the results it has brought. This tradegy is yet another consequent event of the ill-fated reliance some have on the Occupation...who's only goal is to see Iraq in the state it is now. May Allah (SWT) curses be upon those responsible. May they rot in the fires of Hell for enternity. Ya Allah give us strength, give us patience, give us unity, give us the reappearance of our Imam (as)

[Uninspired]

Are you Il Nino and Paradusi :dry: ...why on earth would Iran and Islamic shia country want to destroy the shrine of an imam (as) they truly believe in...are you out of your mind?!?!

If there is any foreign involvement its blatently the Americans :mad:

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Fine, stop blaming sunnis ! :mad:

[salafi_boy]

WHAT WAS IN THE "SHRINE"??? WAS IT A PLACE OF SHIRK? :huh:

[Al A'leemu]

Fine, stop blaming sunnis !  :mad:

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I'm not the one blaming sunni's...i'm not going to give the US what they want, i haven't fallen into the trap they have formed betwen both sunni's and shia's, even if everyone else does!!!

[Hannibal]

(bismillah)

(salam)

All right, I'm finished reading.

All I can conclude is that I smell a British-Nasibi connection ...

Surprise Surprise Surprise :)

I think people are wrong to blame everything entirely on Sunnis, and others are wrong to say the Imperialists were the only ones involved. Thing is, the Imperialists can't do this by themselves and frankly nasisbis/sunnis are just too stupid to be able to plan something of this extent. So I am led to believe that is British-Zionist inspired, and carried out by useful idiots (nasibi wahabis).

Al hamdolilah, Sayyid Khamenei's (HA) speech re-affirmed this belief of mine.

May Allah (swt) curse the enemies of Islam and Ahl ul Bait (as).

[Uninspired]

Obviously you aren't shia, so stop putting you devision causing tongue between us.

How could you even post something like saying that iranians should get involved in iraq?

Why should the sunnis NOT be involved in this situation then? Sunnis ought to bring Salafis from saudiyyah to "control" iraq the way shias are talking about bringing iranian influence into the region !

[AnotherUmmAli]

(bismillah)

(salam)

The Shia can thank the american occupying force for this. And thank every Shia who supported the war and the invasion of Iraq. This is the insult Imam Al-Hujjah (as) has to face. His father's shrine has been destroyed. Thankyou every Shia who was happy the americans invaded.

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Agreed 100%.

[Abbas_Zaidi]

Surprise Surprise Surprise  :)

What's so amusing abt this ? :angry:

[Ya Aba 3abdillah]

How could you even post something like saying that iranians should get involved in iraq?

Why should the sunnis NOT be involved in this situation then? Sunnis ought to bring Salafis from saudiyyah to "control" iraq the way shias are talking about bringing iranian influence into the region !

The Salafis are ALREADY there. You ever thought about that ?!?!!??! And they're not leaving anytime soon. We're not doing a good job in Iraq protecting the Shrines, so it's about time we call more Shia from Iran and Lebanon who are trained and know what their doing and aren't reliant on Ameriknessets to supposedly bring security to Iraq.

[shabbir.hassanally]

Isn't your second caliph waiting for you in his faaggot harem?

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In His Name, the Most High

Salaams

Br Hezbullahi; that is uncalled for. The person - salafi_boy - joined this site today and made two posts; it is clear there is either a genuine innocence or - especially given the nickname chosen - instigation.

Don't rise to it.

I trust you understand.

Good talking to you again, insha Allah you are well; shame about the circumstances however. :(

With Salaams and Dua's

Shabbir

[T.H]

i agree with hizbullahi i think MI5 and the wahabbis collabed it was either one of them,because MI5 is known for its bombings in Iran

[widad]

(salam)

Yo, shias have been "oppressed" only after they try to overthrow the saddam govt. by hoping to get the west involved in the revolution attempt in 91, like they are hoping to get west involved in them governing the country nowadays.

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You not only talk rot, you also show the standard of your akhlaq.

Pick up any news source, study history, you will clearly see how far Saddam opressed the Shias, even before 1991. I personally know some of the Iraqi Shia's who have suffered under Saddam's rule. At least, the west's involvement has lead to more freedom for the Shias.

Wa`Salaam

[Hannibal]

Sorry guys, I deleted my post but I accidently deleted another one before mine.

[salafi_boy]

Hmmmm, well why is no one answering the question?, what was in the shrine? , I am a revert to Islaam quite recently, I dont know much about the Shia's or anything, I was just wondering, no one at the Masjid talked about it today....... :unsure:

[Hannibal]

What's so amusing abt this ?  :angry:

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Its not amusing, I'm being sarcastic ... i.e. British-Zionist-Imperialist connection with the Nawasib.

Its not the first time this is happening, didn't the british get caught trying to plant bombs in Basra? Seriously, we have to be open to this stuff and realize that there are greater powers involved here and the nawasib are just the chess pieces.

[Uninspired]

Sorry guys, I deleted my post but I accidently deleted another one before mine.

Sorry i got it saved :D

Isn't your second caliph waiting for you in his faaggot harem?

It's against the site's rule and you should be warned for it and then banned .

And prophet's harem is in that harem, you understand you shameless rafidhi :huh:

The Salafis are ALREADY there. You ever thought about that ?!?!!??! And they're not leaving anytime soon. We're not doing a good job in Iraq protecting the Shrines, so it's about time we call more Shia from Iran and Lebanon who are trained and know what their doing and aren't reliant on Ameriknessets to supposedly bring security to Iraq.

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Well it's high time that sunni nations retaliate in turn if iranians and lebanese send their trained forces to iraq !

[widad]

^^^(salam)

The Shrine is similar to the place where the Prophet is buried. It was a mosque where our two Imams have been buried. The 10th Imam, Ali Al Hadi, and the 11th Imam, Imam Hasan Al Askari. If you scroll back a little, I've posted information off the bbcnews.com site about the Shrine. It actually is an intresting read and will provide you with more information.

Wa`Salaam

Edited February 22, 2006 by widad

[shabbir.hassanally]

(salam)

You not only talk rot, you also show the standard of your akhlaq.

Pick up any news source, study history, you will clearly see how far Saddam opressed the Shias, even before 1991. I personally know some of the Iraqi Shia's who have suffered under Saddam's rule. At least, the west's involvement has lead to more freedom for the Shias.

Wa`Salaam

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In His Name, the Most High

Salaams

Br/Sis Widad; with respect; what we have today in Iraq is "more freedom"?!?!?!!! Subhan Allah; then I think that Saddam's time was a walk in the park.

Subhan Allah!

Perhaps a definition of this "freedom" is in order; since based on my understanding; Iraq has definately not been "freed" or "liberated" - except that said words have been used - the situation in Iraq is far from the definition that is well known of those two words:

free·dom  Audio pronunciation of "freedom" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (frdm)

n.

  1. The condition of being free of restraints.

  2. Liberty of the person from slavery, detention, or oppression.

  3.

        1. Political independence.

        2. Exemption from the arbitrary exercise of authority in the performance of a specific action; civil liberty: freedom of assembly.

  4. Exemption from an unpleasant or onerous condition: freedom from want.

  5. The capacity to exercise choice; free will: We have the freedom to do as we please all afternoon.

  6. Ease or facility of movement: loose sports clothing, giving the wearer freedom.

  7. Frankness or boldness; lack of modesty or reserve: the new freedom in movies and novels.

  8.

        1. The right to unrestricted use; full access: was given the freedom of their research facilities.

        2. The right of enjoying all of the privileges of membership or citizenship: the freedom of the city.

  9. A right or the power to engage in certain actions without control or interference: “the seductive freedoms and excesses of the picaresque form” (John W. Aldridge).

free  Audio pronunciation of "freed" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (fr)

adj. fre·er, fre·est

  1. Not imprisoned or enslaved; being at liberty.

  2. Not controlled by obligation or the will of another: felt free to go.

  3.

        1. Having political independence: “America... is the freest and wealthiest nation in the world” (Rudolph W. Giuliani).

        2. Governed by consent and possessing or granting civil liberties: a free citizenry.

        3. Not subject to arbitrary interference by a government: a free press.

  4.

        1. Not affected or restricted by a given condition or circumstance: a healthy animal, free of disease; free from need.

        2. Not subject to a given condition; exempt: income that is free of all taxes.

  5. Not subject to external restraint: “Comment is free but facts are sacred” (Charles Prestwich Scott).

  6. Not literal or exact: a free translation.

  7.

        1. Costing nothing; gratuitous: a free meal.

        2. Publicly supported: free education.

  8.

        1. Not occupied or used: a free locker.

        2. Not taken up by scheduled activities: free time between classes.

  9. Unobstructed; clear: a free lane.

  10. Unguarded in expression or manner; open; frank.

  11. Taking undue liberties; forward or overfamiliar.

  12. Liberal or lavish: tourists who are free with their money.

  13. Given, made, or done of one's own accord; voluntary or spontaneous: a free act of the will; free choices.

  14. Chemistry & Physics.

        1. Unconstrained; unconfined: free expansion.

        2. Not fixed in position; capable of relatively unrestricted motion: a free electron.

        3. Not chemically bound in a molecule: free oxygen.

        4. Involving no collisions or interactions: a free path.

        5. Empty: a free space.

        6. Unoccupied: a free energy level.

  15. Nautical. Favorable: a free wind.

  16. Not bound, fastened, or attached: the free end of a chain.

  17. Linguistics.

        1. Being a form, especially a morpheme, that can stand as an independent word, such as boat or bring.

        2. Being a vowel in an open syllable, as the o in go.

adv.

  1. In a free manner; without restraint.

  2. Without charge.

tr.v. freed, free·ing, frees

  1. To set at liberty; make free: freed the slaves; free the imagination.

  2. To relieve of a burden, obligation, or restraint: a people who were at last freed from fear.

  3. To remove obstructions or entanglements from; clear: free a path through the jungle.

Idiom:

for free Informal

    Without charge.

lib·er·ate  Audio pronunciation of "liberated" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (lb-rt)

tr.v. lib·er·at·ed, lib·er·at·ing, lib·er·ates

  1. To set free, as from oppression, confinement, or foreign control.

  2. Chemistry. To release (a gas, for example) from combination.

  3. Slang. To obtain by illegal or stealthy action: tried to sell appliances that were liberated during the riot.

Now I might be thick; but with respect - Iraq is definately not liberated - since it is firmly in foreign control - note the definition above.

So umm, please help me out here. Amerikkka came and "liberated" Iraq - I think not - they just decided to occupy it directly rather than by proxy. Plain and simple. From the frying pan into the fire as the saying goes - that's Iraq - from Saddam to the Amerikkkan Empire. From distant rule to direct colonial rule.

With Salaams and Dua's

Shabbir

[Hannibal]

It's against the site's rule and you should be warned for it and then banned .

And prophet's harem is in that harem, you understand you shameless rafidhi  :huh:

Well it's high time that sunni nations retaliate in turn if iranians and lebanese send their trained forces to iraq !

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All right thanks!

[widad]

(salam)

Well it's high time that sunni nations retaliate in turn if iranians and lebanese send their trained forces to iraq !

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You already have many 'Arabs' who have sneaked in and are creating havoc (insurgents). I;d be careful wishing for more....

Wa`Salaam

[Uninspired]

(salam)

You not only talk rot, you also show the standard of your akhlaq.

Pick up any news source, study history, you will clearly see how far Saddam opressed the Shias, even before 1991. I personally know some of the Iraqi Shia's who have suffered under Saddam's rule. At least, the west's involvement has lead to more freedom for the Shias.

Wa`Salaam

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you talk about my akhlaq, check out your rafidhi mod's akhlaq

[quote name=Hezbullahi @ Feb 22 2006' date=' 09:50 PM

Isn't your second caliph waiting for you in his faaggot harem?

And before shia uprising of 91, there was no shia oppression to be had in any case.

[WEST_INDIAN_RUDEGYAL]

(salam)

I'm sorry but this is disgraceful.

The Imam of our time (May Allah SWT hasten his reappearance) is in Iraq overcome by grief of what has happened to the shrine of his beloved father :cry: :cry: :cry:

Stop hating each other and mourn for the Ahlulbayt (as)

[salafi_boy]

Call me ignorant, but I was told that its Haram to have a grave marker... is this correct, is a religious grave ok to mark? :huh: Will talk to my Imam about it tommorrow... He is from Makkah, even the Kings of KSA are buried in unmarked graves, and they are the guardians of the shrines.... according to Shaykh Muhammad :)

[Dhulfiqar]

After sending an email....

Destruction of Golden Mosque - Shameful & Cowardly Act

02-22-06 16:35

ISNA

Feb 23, 2006

PLAINFIELD, IN – The Islamic Society of North America registers its deep shock and dismay over the destruction of the priceless shrine of Imam Mahdi, the Golden Mosque in Samarra.

We are deeply dismayed at the loss of life and the loss of this heritage structure. The loss of this beautiful masjid comes at a time when the people of Iraq were seeking to establish their government.

We appeal to all Muslims to strive to overcome their differences in order to create a peaceful world for themselves and everyone. We appeal to the people of Iraq to bear this loss with fortitude and courage and let the law take its course in apprehending the miscreants responsible for this deplorable and mindless act.

ISNA joins the Muslim world in mourning this loss and condemns those who planned and executed this criminal act.

For more information and resources, please contact

Mohamed Elsanousi

Director Communications and Community Relations

317-839-8157 Ex 228 or at melsanousi@isna.net

Still waiting on CAIR and ICNA.

Edited February 22, 2006 by Dhulfiqar

[Uninspired]

^^^(salam)

The Shrine is similar to the place where the Prophet is buried. It was a mosque where our two Imams have been buried. The 10th Imam, Ali Al Hadi, and the 11th Imam, Imam Hasan Al Askari. If you scroll back a little, I've posted information off the bbcnews.com site about the Shrine. It actually is an intresting read and will provide you with more information.

Wa`Salaam

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The shrine is NOWAY similar to the shrine of Prophet (saw), if it wasn't for Prophet(saw) there would have been no syeds nor shia imams!

It isn't sunni fault that our great caliphs Omar(ra) and Abu Bakr(ra) are buried alongside Prophet (saw) :D

(salam)

You already have many 'Arabs' who have sneaked in and are creating havoc (insurgents). I;d be careful wishing for more....

Wa`Salaam

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Actually, these are baseless accusations by the amriKKKans and zionists, i am shocked to see shias believing in this, even though they follow "mintaq" ( logic )

But since you are willing to believe it and even thinking about bringing iranian and lebanese soldiers in to the country, it will only give sunni countries green flag to send their troops into the country. You see, pakistan is already in the waiting list :D

The Imam of our time (May Allah SWT hasten his reappearance) is in Iraq overcome by grief of what has happened to the shrine of his beloved father cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

I told you, it only will take a month to repair the shrine, how hard is that?!

[salafi_boy]

"Uninspired", I think you are being a little insensitive...

[Uninspired]

Call me ignorant, but I was told that its Haram to have a grave marker... is this correct, is a religious grave ok to mark? huh.gif Will talk to my Imam about it tommorrow... He is from Makkah, even the Kings of KSA are buried in unmarked graves, and they are the guardians of the shrines.... according to Shaykh Muhammad smile.gif

Lol actually bro it isn't haraam to have shrines with gravemarks, that is why we have Hadhrat Omar Farooq Azam(ra) and Hadrat Abu bakr Siddique's (ra) grave intact in Madina un Nabi (saw)

[widad]

(salam)

Br/Sis Widad; with respect; what we have today in Iraq is "more freedom"?!?!?!!!  Subhan Allah; then I think that Saddam's time was a walk in the park.

So umm, please help me out here.  Amerikkka came and "liberated" Iraq - I think not - they just decided to occupy it directly rather than by proxy.  Plain and simple.  From the frying pan into the fire as the saying goes - that's Iraq - from Saddam to the Amerikkkan Empire.  From distant rule to direct colonial rule.

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Yes, I stand by my statement. MORE freedom, not COMPLETE freedom.

The Iraqi's today have more freedom to practise their religion. I have commorated A'ashura and A`arbaeen in Iraq both during Saddam's reign and last year. I've seen the difference for myself.

The Iraqi's were stuck with Saddam. They now have the freedom to choose their leaders.

There are more examples. You get the idea.

However, this 'liberation' of Iraq was not out of pure goodwill to the Iraq's, but for ulterior motive. Agreed, America had a reason for 'liberating' Iraq. But, wih a Shia (majority) government forming soon, Inshallah, America should have no reason to stay on in Iraq as uninvited guests. Hopefuly, they will be shown to the door.

Wa`Salaam

[Uninspired]

"Uninspired", I think you are being a little insensitive...

Lol bro, i am not being insensitive. Suppose if naudhubillah hazrat imam abu hanifa's (ra) mosque gets bombed by the [Edited Out]e extremists somehow, we won't mourn or cut ourselves into halves. We would just rebuild the mosque and stop crying over it for like 1400 years.

lol , they edited "s h i i t e" :D

Edited February 22, 2006 by Uninspired

[Fatimaa]

(bismillah) (salam)

Ya Allah!!! This was the sadest thing happened :cry: :cry:

I dont know why all of u are indulging in all these arguments about sunni/shia.Its what enemies want....It all happened to create fitnah.

May AllahÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáìcurse the enemies of Ahlylbayt (as) and Islam.(Ameen)

May Allah(swt) punish them severly who were responsible(Ameen)

And May Allah(swt) hasten the re-appearence of our Imam Mehdi (as).

Give condolences to our Imam Mehdi (as)(AF)...He must be in severe pain at this moment.Ya Imam (as) we are so unfortunate that we can't be with you in this grief and sorrow of yours. :cry: :cry:

May Allah(swt) guide us all to the right path(Ameen)

Wassalam.

[Hannibal]

I told you, it only will take a month to repair the shrine, how hard is that?!

Would you still talk like this if we bombed Omar's grave?

[Ya Aba 3abdillah]

(bismillah)

(salam)

Call me ignorant, but I was told that its Haram to have a grave marker... is this correct, is a religious grave ok to mark?  :huh:  Will talk to my Imam about it tommorrow... He is from Makkah, even the Kings of KSA are buried in unmarked graves, and they are the guardians of the shrines.... according to Shaykh Muhammad :)

http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia

ws