The Alchemy of Time and the Cycles of Existence

[Solve et Coagula]

The Alchemy of Time:

Understanding the Great Year & the Cycles of Existence

By Jay Weidner

The age of iron has no other seal than that of Death. Its hieroglyph is the skeleton, bearing the attributes of Saturn: the empty hourglass, symbol of time run out…

– Fulcanelli

The inspiration for this article comes from my almost nineteen years of research into the Great Cross of Hendaye and the French alchemist Fulcanelli. The unknown, anonymous, alchemist Fulcanelli in his masterpiece The Mysteries of the Cathedrals first brought the cross at Hendaye, France to the world’s attention.

While the details of this research can be found in other articles written by myself and in the two books I co-authored,1 it can be stated that the Great Cross at Hendaye appears to be describing not only the end of the great four ages of the Hindu Yuga system but also the four ages of alchemical chronological time keeping. According to the cross at Hendaye, the Iron Age, or the Kali Yuga, will be coming to an end with the galactic alignment on the winter solstice of December 21st, 2012.

According to the mythology of the Yuga system, there are four ages of life and time on our planet. It is important to remember there are many cycles within cycles in the Hindu Yuga system so the years mentioned next may have to do with a larger cycle than the one addressed in this article. Perhaps the huge number of years referred to below is the cycle of the solar system as it circles another star, or perhaps it is a portion of the great cycle of one revolution around the galactic centre.

The first age is the Satya Yuga or the Golden Age, according to Fulcanelli. The Hindu texts tell us that this age lasts 1,728,000 years. This is an age of extreme splendour when the beings on our planet appear to live much longer than they do now. In this age there are no wars, famines, strife or evil.

The second age is called the Treta Yuga, or the Silver Age. As in the second law of thermodynamics, or entropy, things begin to slip in this age and the beings on Earth begin to deteriorate. This slippage, at least during this second age, is the beginning of corruption, and evil is introduced into the planetary sphere. This age lasts 1,296,000 years according to the Vedic texts of India.

The third age of this cycle is called the Dvapara Age, or the Bronze Age. This is the beginning of the ‘fall’ of humanity. In this age corruption comes on more fully, evil begins to spread, and things start to fall into disharmony. This age lasts 864,000 years.

The last age is called the Kali Yuga, or the Iron Age. This age is the age we are in right now. Evil and corruption become the driving force as greed, wars, famine and disease spread across the planet like a tidal wave of death and destruction. This age lasts, according to the Hindu texts for 432,000 years.2

What is important to understand while discussing these huge numbers found in the Hindu texts is they are describing the four ages within a context of understanding that each successive age is shorter than the previous age. The Satya Yuga, or the Golden Age, is one quarter longer than the Treta Yuga, or the Silver Age. The Treta Yuga is one quarter longer than the Dvapara Yuga, or the Bronze Age. Understanding these differences in the lengths of the ages becomes important to the following discussion.

According to Fulcanelli and the cross at Hendaye, the alchemical Four Ages comprise the four quadrants of a 25,920 year-long cycle called the precession of the equinoxes. Essentially, the precession of the equinoxes can be explained by the fact that our Earth has a wobble. Like a top spinning on the floor, as it begins to lose momentum this wobble of the Earth takes nearly 26,000 years to unfold. The strange engraving of the four ‘A’s’ (see Figure 5) on the cross of Hendaye is a “hieroglyph of the universe”, according to Fulcanelli. It is “comprised of the conventional signs of heaven and earth, the spiritual and the temporal, the macrocosm and the microcosm, in which major emblems of the redemption (cross) and the world (circle) are found in association.”

The Precession of the Equinoxes

What Fulcanelli appears to be saying here is that the precession of the equinoxes is to be divided into four distinct ages of 6,480 years each (4 divided into 25,920) or, to round off the figures to approximately 6,500 years each. This is also interesting because the zodiacal cycle, which lasts 25,920 years, has four fixed signs. These are the signs of Aquarius, Taurus, Leo and Scorpio. These four signs are separated by 6,500 years each. Also in the Book of Ezekiel and in the Book of Revelation we are told of the angel with four faces. This angel has the face of a Lion (Leo), a Bull (Taurus), a Man (the angel) and an Eagle (in older times Scorpio was represented by an eagle instead of a scorpion). Apparently, according to Fulcanelli, both of these books in the Bible are warnings and messages about the four quadrants of the precession of the equinoxes and appear to be telling us that there is some kind of great change whenever we arrive at one of these four signs.

Of course it is well known that we are currently entering the Age of Aquarius. The Cross at Hendaye and Fulcanelli are telling us there are tremendous changes to be found here on Earth when we enter into one of the four fixed signs. Apparently these changes can be cataclysmic.

Obviously this 6,500 year long dating of the four alchemical ages disagrees with the Hindu Yuga system, which insists that each Yuga is of varying time lengths. It is in trying to iron out the dissimilarities in these two time periods that the hyperdimensional aspects of time can be best revealed.

Continue to read:

http://www.newdawnmagazine.com/Articles/Th...my_of_Time.html

[313_Waiter]

@Allah Seeker

This is very cool and interesting.
 

My questions is, is it halal to look at astrology to make predictions about the world and yourself? I want to go deep.

 

What if you don’t act on it but just look at it for information.

[313_Waiter]

Salaam brother @Ashvazdanghe is it halal to make predictions about urself and the world but not believe it 100%?

thank you

[Ashvazdanghe]

10 hours ago, 313_Waiter said:

My questions is, is it halal to look at astrology to make predictions about the world and yourself? I want to go deep.

 

What if you don’t act on it but just look at it for information.

Salam any type of prediction  through Astrology is Haram , even you don't act on it but it will affect your subconsciousness that it will program your mind  .

[313_Waiter]

@shia farm girl

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Then Amir al-mu’minin advanced towards the people and said:

O People! Beware of learning the science of stars except that with which guidance is sought on land or sea, because it leads to divining and an astrologer is a diviner, while the diviner is like the sorcerer, the sorcerer is like the unbeliever and the unbeliever would be in Hell. Get forward in the name of Allah.

https://www.al-islam.org/nahjul-balagha-part-1-sermons/sermon-79-do-you-think-you-can-tell

It’s haram 

[Ashvazdanghe]

https://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235068280-do-shias-belive-in-black-magic-and-evil-eye/?tab=comments#comment-3312082

[PureExistence1]

2 hours ago, 313_Waiter said:

@shia farm girl

It’s haram 

Huh? Lol..

Howd i get involved in this thread?

I cant find a comment from myself in here anywhere...

W/s

[313_Waiter]

12 minutes ago, shia farm girl said:

Huh? Lol..

Howd i get involved in this thread?

I cant find a comment from myself in here anywhere...

W/s

Salam, sorry sister I thought you were also interested in learning this science because you said thanks to OP but Imam Ali ((عليه السلام)) said not to learn it for predictions or fortune telling in the above quote ^

thanks

[PureExistence1]

On 9/20/2020 at 2:55 AM, 313_Waiter said:

Salam, sorry sister I thought you were also interested in learning this science because you said thanks to OP but Imam Ali ((عليه السلام)) said not to learn it for predictions or fortune telling in the above quote ^

thanks

Oh yea,lol..i "liked" the op cuz im always interested in hearing about what other philosophers, religions,people, etc believe. Once i read thrir ideas, i filter it through Islam and see what does and doesnt jive. In other words, i see how near or far they are from the truth.  My apologies brother, i forgot about my "like"...

Yes, i remember the hadith of Imam Ali(عليه السلام) basically saying to stay away from occult sciences like numerology,astrology, tarot cards, things like thay..I had heard the impermissability has to do with the potential they have to lead people to believe its the actuall planets and stars and their alignment that determines their fate as opposed to Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), so it decreases their level of Tawheed in this way. Im sure the potential for misguidance is much greater than this.

Again, my apologies.

W/s

[313_Waiter]

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I had heard the impermissability has to do with the potential they have to lead people to believe its the actuall planets and stars and their alignment that determines their fate as opposed to Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), so it decreases their level of Tawheed in this way. Im sure the potential for misguidance is much greater than this.

Yes I think you are right sister, thank you.

this is what Seyyed Hossein Nasr says in his “introduction to Islamic cosmological doctrines”

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In astrology the whole cycle of manifestation, temporal and spatial, is seen as an unfolding of possibilities inherent in the unique Principle which itself lies above all manifestation. All multiplicity, all diversity, is deduced from Divine Unity, especially in Islamic astrology where this perspective of revealing the relation of the cosmos to its Unique Principle is of great importance. Therefore; although astrology, in placing intermediary causes between man and God, is opposed to a certain aspect of the Muslim perspective, its contemplative and symbolic side conforms closely to the basic spirit of Islam, which is to realize that all multiplicity comes from Unity and to seek to integrate the particular in the Universal

[313_Waiter]

 

[313_Waiter]

I found this video but I’m going to be honest I have no idea what he said:

 

[hasanhh]

On 2/6/2006 at 3:59 PM, Solve et Coagula said:

Also in the Book of Ezekiel and in the Book of Revelation we are told of the angel with four faces.

This, from Ezekiel Chapter 0ne, fifty years ago was supposed to describe a spaceship. There were even pictorials of this reading on TV.

How times change (the meaning).

[313_Waiter]

Very interesting hadith in al Kafi:

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A number of our companions, from Ahmad Bin Muhammad Bin Khalid, from Ibn Fazzaal, from Al- Hassan Bin Asbaat, from Abdul Rahman Bin Sayaabat who said:

I said to Abu Abdullahasws, ‘May I be sacrificed for youasws, the people are saying that it is not permissible to study the stars, and this has surprised me. So if it is harmful for my Religion, so there is no need for me to do anything which harms my Religion, and if it is not harmful to my Religion, by Allahazwj I love it and it is my desire to study it’. So heasws said: ‘This is not as they are saying it to be. It does not harm your Religion’.

Then heasws said; ‘You are studying something, a lot of which you are unaware of, and a small amount of it is not beneficial. You are calculating the rise of the Moon’. Then heasws said: ‘Do you know how many minutes there are in between Jupiter and Venus?’ I said, ‘No, by Allahazwj’. Heasws said: ‘Do you know how many minutes there are in between the Venus and the Moon?’ I said, ‘No’. Heasws said: ‘Do you know how many minutes there are in between the Sun and the Virgo?’ I said, ‘No, by Allahazwj, I have not heard from any one from the astrologers at all’. Heasws said: ‘What is in between each one of these at its counterpart are sixty or seventy minutes’.

Abdul Rahman expressed his doubt. Then heasws said: ‘O Abdul Rahman, this is a calculation, which if the man calculates, he would come to know the reed in the middle of the bush, and the number (of reeds) which are on the right of it and the number (of reeds) which are on the left of it, and the number (of reeds) which are behind it, and the number (of reeds) which are in front of it, to the extent that there would not remain hidden from him a single reed from the bush’.

Al Kafi V9–H14681

 

Another hadith:

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طبرسي: روى العياشي في (تفسيره)، بالإسناد عن الأشعث بن حاتُ، قال: كنت بخراسان حيث اجتمع الرضا (عليه السلام)، و

الفضل بن سهل، و المأمون في الإيوان بمرو، فوضعت المائدة، فقال الرضا (عليه السلام): «إن رجلا من بني إسرائيل سألني 

بالمدينة، فقال: النهار خلق قبل، أم الليل، فما عندكم؟

 

Al-Tabarsy – Ayyashi has reported in his commentary, by the chain from Al-Ash’as Bin Hatim who said,

‘I was in Khurasan where I met Al-Rezaasws, and Al-Fadhl Bin Sahl and Al-Mamoun, and the table was set (for a meal). Al-Rezaasws said: ‘A man from the Children of Israel asked measws in the city. He said, ‘Was the day Created first, or the night, what is (the information) with youasws?’

قال: فأداروا الكلام، فلم يكن عندهم في ذلك شيء، فقال الفضل للرضا (عليه السلام): أخبرنا بها، أصلحك الله.

He (the narrator) said, ‘The speech went in circular arguments, and there did not happen to be anything with them with regards to that. Al-Fadhl said to Al-Rezaasws, ‘Inform us about that, may Allahazwj Keep youasws well.’

قال: «نعم، من القرآن، أم من الحساب؟» قال الفضل: من جهة الحساب.

Heasws said: ‘Yes, from the Quran or from the calculation?’ Al-Fadhl said, ‘From the mathematical calculation.’

فقال: «قد علمت- يا فضل- أن طالع الدنيا السرطان، و الكواكب في مواضع شرفها، فزحل في الميزان، و المشتري في السرطان، و الشمسفي الحمل، و القمر في الثور، فذلك يدل عل كينونة الشمس في الحمل في العاشر من الطالع في وسط السماء، فالنهار خلق قبل الليل».

Heasws said: ‘You should know that – O Fadhl – the world follows Cancer, and the stars are in positions of honour. ‘Fazhal’ is in Libra, and the Jupiter is in Cancer, and the Sun is in Aries, and the moon is in Taurus. That is how it evidences upon the Aries of the sun in the tenth house in the middle of the sky. Thus, the day was Created before the night.’

 

Majma al Bayan 664:8

 

Edited December 16, 2020 by 313_Waiter

[313_Waiter]

Fatwa from Sayed Sistani’s representative:

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Salaam Dear Sheikh,

Is it permissible to learn about things like astrology, old wisdom, hermeticism and zodiac signs, given that one holds firmly onto Tawhid?

Alaykum assalam,
If you are confident that it will not effect your faith, then, it is OK.
However, it is not advisable to waste the time in such things. 
 

Thank you. Even astrological predictions can be investigated? (In light of Nahjul Balagha sermon 79)

 

What is meant in sermon 79 is about predictions, which is not allowed.

This may be of interest to you brother @Muntazir e Mahdi

[313_Waiter]

On 12/16/2020 at 10:16 PM, 313_Waiter said:

Very interesting hadith in al Kafi:

Another hadith:

 

More hadiths on the matter of astrology (note I have not checked the isnad):

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Al Zamakhshary – In Rabi’e Al Abrar, (It has been narrated) from the first Holy Imam, Imam Ali having said: ‘The one who extracts the knowledge of the stars (Astrology) from the provisions of the Quran, he would increase by it in faith and conviction’. Then he recited [10:6] Surely, in the alternation of the night and the day – the Verse’.

Source: ربيع األبرار 6 :661

 

The 3rd holy Imam, Imam Husayn said to me: ‘How is your insight into the stars (astrology)?’ I said, ‘There is no one left in Iraq with more insight into the stars than I’. So he said; ‘How is the rotation of the ‘Al-Falak’ universe in accordance to you?’ So I took off my cap from my head and rotated it. (Imam said) ‘If the matter was as you are saying it to be, so what do you make of AlNa’ash, and Al-Jaday, and Al-Faqadayn? They are not being seen to rotate in a day from the time in the direction?’ I said, ‘By Allah, this is something that I do not understand, not had I heard anyone from the people of the calculation mention it’. So he said to me: ‘What is the proportion of light of Al-Sukayna from Al-Zuhra Venus)?’ I said, ‘By Allah, this is a star which I have not heard of, nor have I heard anyone from the people mentioning it’. So he said; ‘Glory be to Allah! So you have dropped (ignored) a whole star, so what is your calculation based upon?’ 

Then (Imam) said: ‘So what is the proportion of illumination of Al-Zuhra (Venus) from the moon is?’ I said, ‘This is a thing which no one knows except Allah Mighty and Majestic’. He said; ‘So what is the proportion of the moon from the sun in its illumination?’ I said, ‘I do not know this’. He said; ‘You speak the truth’. Then said: ‘So what about the two armies which meet each other in accordance to this calculation, and in accordance to that calculation, and the calculator of this one calculated victory for this army, and the calculator of that one calculated victory for that army, then the two of them met, so one of them defeats the other, so now where would be the bad luck?’ I said, ‘By Allah, I do not know that’. He said: ‘You speak the truth. The origin of the calculation is true, but no one knows that except the one who knows the birth of creatures, all of them’.

Source: Al-Kafi, Vol. 8, H. 14996

 

The 3rd holy Imam, Imam Husayn has said: Once the Messenger of Allah had fever. Jibraeel (Gabriel) came and read a protective recitation. In the name of Allah, read this protective recitation, O Mohammed, in the name of Allah, I seek cure for you. In the name of Allah, I seek cure for you from every illness that makes you tired. In the name of Allah, Allah Grants you cure. In the name of Allah, you can take it in good health. In the name of Allah, I do not swear by the places of the stars. You will be cured by the permission of Allah. The Guidance is only through the Holy Words of Masomeen’:  Bakr has said: I asked the Imam about the recitation for fever and the Imam narrated this to me.

Source: Al-Kafi, vol. 8, H. 88

 

Muhammad, from Ahmad, from ibn Mahboob, from Jamil b. Saleh, from Aban b. Tughlub, from the third Holy Imam, Imam Husayn ((عليه السلام)):

Narrator says) I asked the Imam about the planet Earth, does it rest upon anything? Imam replied: "It rests upon a whale. [Cetus]" I asked: "Does the whale rest upon anything?" Imam replied: "Upon the water." I asked: "Does the water rest upon anything?" Imam  replied: "Upon a rock." I asked: "Does the rock rest upon anything?" Imam  replied: "Upon the horn of a straight/smooth backed bull. [Taurus]" I asked: "Does the bull rest upon anything?" Imam replied: "Upon wet sand/soil." I asked: "Does the soil rest upon anything?" Imam replied: "Beyond (comprehension that is)! This is where the knowledge of the scholars goes astray”

 

[313_Waiter]

On 12/21/2020 at 5:06 PM, 313_Waiter said:

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Narrator says) I asked the Imam about the planet Earth, does it rest upon anything? Imam replied: "It rests upon a whale. [Cetus]" I asked: "Does the whale rest upon anything?" Imam replied: "Upon the water." I asked: "Does the water rest upon anything?" Imam  replied: "Upon a rock." I asked: "Does the rock rest upon anything?" Imam  replied: "Upon the horn of a straight/smooth backed bull. [Taurus]" I asked: "Does the bull rest upon anything?" Imam replied: "Upon wet sand/soil." I asked: "Does the soil rest upon anything?" Imam replied: "Beyond (comprehension that is)! This is where the knowledge of the scholars goes astray”

 

This final hadith may not be about astrology and has been explained in terms of sacred geometry by brother Kanat Eleyoun:

I am not sure if I linked the right video (sorry if I didn’t):

 

[313_Waiter]

From Moezzi’s book The Divine Guide in Early Shiism: 

There is also astrology (al-nujtim); the efficiency of this divinatory “art” is recognized by the imams. Mu‘all'a b. Khunays412 asks Ja‘far whether astrol ogy istrue, to which the imam replies affirmatively.513 In a conversation about astrological calculations, the same imam states: “ ...This calculation is actu ally true, but only he who has the Knowledge of the horoscope of allcreatures [that is, the imam] can know it.”514 And Ja‘far al-Sadiq also says: “Only one family from among the Arabs [ahl baytin min al-‘arab—that is, the family of the Prophet, the imams] and one family from among the Hindus [ahl baytin min al-hind] know the Science of astrology.”515 ‘Abd al-Rahman b. Siyaba516 says to Ja‘far: “People [al-na‘s, that is, the Sunnites] have said that astrology is illicit,butIam attractedtoit;isitprejudicialtomy religion?Ifso,Iwillgive upmy study,butifthisisnotthecase,Iwishtolearnit.”Theimamreplies, “It is not as they say; astrology does no harm to religion. However, you are studying something about which you know very little, and the least amount that you grasp will do you no good, since your calculations are based only on the trajectory [MW] of the moon; do you know how many minutes there are between Jupiter [aI-mushtari] and Venus [al~zuhra]?” “No.” “How many minutes there are between Venus and the moon? Between the sun and Virgo [al-sunbula]? . B.etw.een Virgo and the Well-Guarded Tablet [al-lawh al mahfuzl?” “No, for heaven’s sake, for no astrologist has spoken of these things.” “In each case there are 70 minutes. ‘Abd al-Rahman, who knows thesecalculationsthoroughly,couldtellyouexactlyhowmanyreedsthereare in a field of rushes.”5'8
There are, however, other statements where the imams appear to wish to warn their disciples against purely magical applications of astrology, astrol ogy that has been “profaned,” separated from a Science that has been acquired through divine intervention, since it would otherwise tend toward “black magic.” ‘Ali says: “0 people [ayyuha l-nas, although we are not sure whether he is speaking with disciples or with “ordinary” people], beware of learning astrology, except where itassists you in finding your way over land or sea.519 Astrology leads you to divination; the astrologist is like the diviner, the diviner like the magician, the magician like the impious, and the impious are destined for Fire. Undertake your actions [by relying] on the Name of God.”520 Elsewhere the same imam, after rejecting the predictions of an astrologist,finisheshisstatementwiththewords“MyGod,thereisnodivina tion other than Your divination [al-tayr, lit. “omithomancy,” although the word here means techniques of divination in general, including astrology], there is no bad omen other than Your bad omen, there is no good omen other than Your good omen, and no god other than You.”52l