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NAJAF, 23 Jan 2006 (IRIN) - A rise in the incidence of “temporary” marriages among Shi’ite Muslims is causing concern among women’s rights activists. According to women’s NGOs in the south of the country, more than 300 temporary marriages occur daily in Kerbala, Najaf and Basra, Iraq’s three main Shi’ite cities.

“The poverty, especially for women who have lost their husbands in the years of war, is the main reason for them accepting such agreements,” said Salua Fatihi, head of two non-governmental women’s rights organisations in southern Iraq. “It’s an easy way to protect their children and put food on the table.”

“They [men] use them as sexual objects under the guise of a religious belief,” Fatihi added.

According to Shi’ite religious law, unmarried women may enter into temporary marriages for periods ranging from hours to an entire lifetime. A payment is made to the woman, often around US $1,000 or the equivalent in gold.

The practice, known as Muta’a, was banned during the Saddam Hussein regime, but has re-emerged since 2003.

“I’ve been in a difficult position since my husband died during the war in 2003 and my children were hungry, so I decided to accept this temporary marriage,” said Um Hassan, a widow. “I was his sexual slave for one month and than he just said my time had expired and left.”

Karima Abbas’ marriage lasted less than a week: “He slept with me every day for a week and then went back to his wife, leaving me pregnant without any help,” said Abbas.

“Today, I’m considered a prostitute by society,” she added.

Rules governing temporary marriages differ from those of normal unions in that only men are permitted to dissolve them. Men may also marry more than once and can have several Muta’a arrangements simultaneously.

Marriage ceremonies are officiated by a sheikh and must have a witness, but – in contrast to typical marriages – do not require the presence of family.

“If you say it’s a bad practice, the sheiks will answer that, on the contrary, it helps these women,” said Fatihi. “But we think financial problems should be dealt with by the government and not by sexual practices.”

Sheikh Hussein Abdul Kader, a Shi’ite cleric in Najaf, who presides over at least five temporary marriages a day, defended the practice.

“We’re like animals, which require sexual activity, but religion prohibits this before marriage,” he said. “So you can have a woman for this prospect without affecting her honour because normally she is a widow; she is not a virgin anymore.”

“In the mean-time, we’re helping these windows to support their families,” Kader added.

The new Iraqi constitution, which guarantees freedom of marriage according to religious beliefs, has been criticized by women’s activists who want equal treatment for men and women independent of religion, ethnicity or origin.

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Hm. . . they want equal rights regardless of gender, but not freedom of religion?  Why not both?  Or why not place stricter requirements on the men to uphold their vows instead of abusing the instution?

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Yea it doesnt make any sense. Why did Saddam not allow it?

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Saddan didn't allow it because he didn't like Shia.

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Thats the only reason :mad: I was thinking that but I thought no it must be something reasonable like maybe unwanted pregnancies or something. It's only for that reason!!! :mad:

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@) @) @) It is sad that mutah is used only because there is a difficult social situation. real mutah is male and female enjoying in erotic for erotic , and not poor women selling themselves because they are hungry. it is better to make sadaqa to such women and don't touch them and don't enjoy sexual pleasure with them. where is our mercy o muslim's , why don't can we win our egoism and be real brother's and sister's?

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"Periods ranging from hours..." Yep, sounds like another name for prostitution to me.

What about the wives of these men. Do they approve of their husbands messing around with other women? Hope they're being checked for STD's or AIDS.

If their husband don't satisfy them, can women enter temporary marraige with another man for an hour or so a week? :sick:

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It's disgusting how men use and abuse something good that God has granted and use it for their own advantage. This is unacceptable and goes against what Mut'a is really.

Mut'a IS MARRIAGE. The woman and man AGREE on how long the MARRIAGE will be and it is a CONTRACT. THe man is not allowed to just get married and leave whenever he wants.

How frustrating!!!!!! Ignorant people make me sick and make me angry when they make our religion look bad. It's like the neverending story of explaining something a million times over and over again. And right away haters jump on the chance to poke fun and make sarcastic remarks about the Shia and Islam. sigh.

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assalamalaikum,

I don't see any difference in this than in the permanent marriage. I would like to help my sisters in Iraq. My sons are too young to marry right now as it takes both parents permission but I would encourage all teh brothers to look to Iraq when searching for a bride.

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this is stupid why do they need to d mutah? why not just get married or wait?? this isnt the meaning of muta muta is for helping homeless women live in your house take care of her even mayber her children in adtition to your own wife so a another women wont be ilegally living in your house and if u want u can have relations with her or just a low income women who husband died and needs financial help this mutah is absolutly nothing more then prostitution stupid as@holes

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assalamalaikum,

I don't see any difference in this than in the permanent marriage. I would like to help my sisters in Iraq. My sons are too young to marry right now as it takes both parents permission but I would encourage all teh brothers to look to Iraq when searching for a bride.

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I think thats good for permanent marriage to get them out of Iraq. But to me this use of temporary marriage is no better than prostitution.

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I think thats good for permanent marriage to get them out of Iraq.  But to me this use of temporary marriage is no better than prostitution.

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Assalamalaikum,

I agree with marrying permanently but it is not as bad as prostitution because at least on the womans' end it's halal.

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The one who is the prostitute is the man who uses the woman in such a way. Her intention is to be married, even temporarily. His intention is to use her..this makes him doing something haram under the veil of halal. He will be accountable for his intentions and his actions. She will not, Inshallah.

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Karima Abbas’ marriage lasted less than a week: “He slept with me every day for a week and then went back to his wife, leaving me pregnant without any help,” said Abbas.

“Today, I’m considered a prostitute by society,” she added.

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WTH! BEFORE DOING MUTA THE MAN AND WOMEN HAVE TO MAKE CONDITIONS CERTAIN RULES E.G IF SHE GETS PREGNANT HE HAS TO TAKE CARE OF THE CHILD ETC... NOT JUST LIKE THAT!

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Salaam,

Every act has the potential for abuse, whether it is something as innocent as drinking water, or marriage. It is not the act itself that is inherently problematic, rather it is the individuals who perform certain acts in certain ways that are the problem.

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rahat

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(bismillah)

(salam)

The new Iraqi constitution, which guarantees freedom of marriage according to religious beliefs, has been criticized by women’s activists who want equal treatment for men and women independent of religion, ethnicity or origin.

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Well disallowing freedom of religion but allowing equality of gender is contratictory and fails in terms of a strong arguement.

If a women wishes that her husband be not allowed to engage in these acts, according to Islam she should declare it in her marriage contract. It is her right. Thus this nullifies any concerns. If a man then decides to engage in other relationships it is then deemed immoral and illegal according to the contract and is labelled as adulterous. A criminal crime. The woman would have a strong case if she wanted a large settlement in a divorce.

"But we think financial problems should be dealt with by the government and not by sexual practices.”

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Well if welfare is not given to the women, which should be the first option for women in financial difficulties, then what is she supposed to do???? If she does not do Muta', then what is she to do? Become a prostitute? have sex for money standing at the corner of the street? If the government is not giving her anything and there is no other source of income, then what is she supposed to do? Sit at home or in the box she has as a home and cry infront of her children and watch them cry and die in front of her? What is the alternative? Muta' is there precisely for this reason, because of the devastation of war. This is why this practice was instituted, in order to help widows. It may be abused BUT say that, say it is being abused. However do not blame the practice. As i have just pointed out your argument would fall short. "Don't do Muta', It is better if you become a prostitute or starve to death." That is your overall result.

Some people are simply missing brain cells or their cognitive abilities.

(salam)

Edited by Al-Zaidi

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Karima Abbas’ marriage lasted less than a week: “He slept with me every day for a week and then went back to his wife, leaving me pregnant without any help,” said Abbas.

“Today, I’m considered a prostitute by society,” she added.

Most people MISUSE muttah.

Ali

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(bismillah) (salam)

NO you just only hear about the bad ones good mutahs are usually a secret. If he married her permanently and then dumped her what would be different?

Nope. My muttah relationships havent been a SECRET. One cannot DUMP a female just like that in Islam. That guy has to SUPPORT the child. He made ehr pregnant and left. He mistreated her. Muttah is MUCH more than just SEX- the guy slept with her every night and then just left her after she got pregnant. Now she is a disgrace in her community. Is this Islamic behaviour?

Ali- PH.D in Muttah

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(bismillah)  (salam)

Nope. My muttah relationships havent been a SECRET. One cannot DUMP a female just like that in Islam. That guy has to SUPPORT the child. He made ehr pregnant and left. He mistreated her. Muttah is MUCH more than just SEX- the guy slept with her every night and then just left her after she got pregnant. Now she is a disgrace in her community. Is this Islamic behaviour?

Ali- PH.D in Muttah

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assalamalaikum,

That's right he didn't behave Islamically but that isnt' mutah's fault and he could have done the dsame thing had they had a permanant marriage. I would like to help this woman does anyone know how or if she already received some help?

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Bismillah

Assalam o Alaikum

There is nothing wrong if Mutah marriage is getting encouragement in Southren Shia Iraq.

More this practice become common, more chaste will be people become and low rate of prostitution.

Let us just not forget what Mawla Ali (as) said: "Would that Umar Ibn Khattab not banned Muttah, there would have been none in Ummah comitting Zina, except the wretched one.

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Please also make clear that it is not only Men who are fullfilling their Natural Sexual Demands, but Women are equally benefitting from it.

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If you look at different soceities, you would see that Islam is a real and true Religion of Nature.

In Germany, where all are so well to do and strong socila system (that no one hungers here), prostitution is sooooo common. They are bringing poor women from former Russian States and compelling them for prostitution.

Same is in all European Countries.

Therefore, any European/Non Muslim blaming Muttah to be against Rights of Woman, should first quote even a single example of such IDEAL Western Soceity.

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Nasibies Attacking Muttah

Nasibies believe that best people of Iman were Sahaba Karam.

But Quran is witness that these same Sahaba were unable to control over themselves when Allah forbade them to go to their wives for whole Month of Ramadhan.

These same Sahaba used to cross the back Walls of their houses and went into their women.

Upon that Allah threatened them that HE knows what they do, and finally Allah granted them permission to go to women during nights of Ramadhan.

But Question to Nasibies, there SAHABA were unable to control over themselves for 30 days and they sinned..... How is it possible that present day Nasibies control over themselves till age of 30 years?

[i.e. Normally Nasibi men are getting married at age of 30 years. My question is, if all of them are ANGELS? Even if they don't go to prostitutes, then they Masterbate, which is again a BIG SIN.

A Nasibi here talked about Shias being Animals. In order to show him the mirror:

- According to Surveys in SUNNI ISLAMIC Republic of Pakistan, more than 95% of youth masterbate.

- According to BBC, 45% of Sunni Pakistani Youth visit the Porno Websites on the net. Here is the link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/interactivity/de...ba_diary1.shtml

- In Sunni Republic of Pakistan, there are Cables, who openly show Pornos.

- In Sunni Republic of Pakistan, there are Cenimas, who openly show Pornos.

- In Sunni Republic of Pakistan, there are Videotheks on ever road, where you can openly borrow the Pornos.

-.....................................

And now let us move to Sunni Taliban Area of Afghanistan:

----- These Sunni Talibani Areas of Afghanistan are indulged in same disease as of Qaum-e-LooT

Lahoola Walla Quwat.

- According to Minister of Education of Pakistan, there were almost 500 Registered cases of Mullah fondling small childs in their Madaris (religious Schools).

Remember, this is a figure of registered cases. Non Registered cases are more than 10 times.

All Pakistanies know these Black things, but they still keep quite and claim Sunni Pakistan to be Castle of Islam. But when it comes to Muttah, then they are able to see all evils in it.

Same is true with the Nasibi here, who wrote Shias are animals. Of course Allah has made him blind and he would never be able to see the Evils of Sunni Communities.

Was Salam.

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Wow zainabia, you really nailed it on the head.

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Please wait for the Next Edition of "Muttah" article at www.answering-ansar.org . Brothers there keep on tracking the records and soon truth will be made clear. Insha-Allah.

Was Salam.

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Please wait for the Next Edition of "Muttah" article at www.answering-ansar.org . Brothers there keep on tracking the records and soon truth will be made clear. Insha-Allah.

Was Salam.

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^ you didn't answer me completely there, sis zainabia.

come on, agree with me here that it ain't possible to do mutah in pakistan.

Suppose if you were living in iran, would you have done it? :rolleyes:

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^ you didn't answer me completely there, sis zainabia.

come on, agree with me here that it ain't possible to do mutah in pakistan.

Suppose if you were living in iran, would you have done it? :rolleyes:

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Plz do Dua that may Allah hasten the Zahoor of Imam-e-Zamana (as). Amin.

Was Salam.

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There are 55 Thousand Sex Workers in Only Lahore (2nd biggest city of Pakistan)

Following are the news from the leading and biggest Urdu Newspaper of Sunni Republic Pakistan "Jang".

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According to "Jang" newspaper, alone in LAHORE, there are more than 55 Thousand Sex Workers, starting from children to adults [The number of Children is around 19 Thousand].

The Nasibi who said Shias are animals, he has to first see the situation in Sunni Republic of Pakistan.

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(bismillah)  (salam)

Nope. My muttah relationships havent been a SECRET. One cannot DUMP a female just like that in Islam. That guy has to SUPPORT the child. He made ehr pregnant and left. He mistreated her. Muttah is MUCH more than just SEX- the guy slept with her every night and then just left her after she got pregnant. Now she is a disgrace in her community. Is this Islamic behaviour?

Ali- PH.D in Muttah

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Thats a bad guy then. even if he had married you in Nikah, that type of a guy would have done the same. leave you! because his intentions were not sincere.

Now i know many men who have gotten their wives in Muta pregnant and turned their muta in Nikah. I know a couple in chicago who were in Muta for 25 years and had two children .. now grown up.. living like husband and wife.. and now they are still in Muta. They married each other for 100 years. why dont they get nikah? Muta suites their lifestyle. they are happy with it. the husband also have another wife in another country. he supports both of his wives and both of his wives are happy.

so they are good ones too! and few are bad ones.

Zanadine.

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^ you didn't answer me completely there, sis zainabia.

come on, agree with me here that it ain't possible to do mutah in pakistan.

Suppose if you were living in iran, would you have done it? :rolleyes:

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brother, you sound desperate! how old are you? why would you want to ask her this personal question? its rude. maybe you PM her and ask that.. Imam Ali said, even if you have done muta, its preferable to keep it confidential. ( i am saying it in a rough manner). so she would not answers your personal questions.

Not all Muta's have sex involved. Muta could be done and used to make a namehram Mehram...... so dont get any ideas brother.. =-)

Zanadine.

Edited by Zanadine

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^^Indeed you may be just as you say.  It seems perfectly clear to me that she is saying that whether or not she has been married before is none of your business.

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You can do mutah with virgin non-married ones as well.

[PROVE YOUR POINT WITHOUT HAVING TO RESORT TO PERSONAL QUESTIONS]

brother, you sound desperate! how old are you?  why would you want to ask her this personal question? its rude. maybe you PM her and ask that..  Imam Ali said, even if you have done muta, its preferable to keep it confidential.  ( i am saying it in a rough manner). so she would not answers your personal questions. 

I am asking her this personal question because i am trying to prove a point here.

Not all Muta's have sex involved.  Muta could be done and used to make a namehram Mehram......  I have done Mutas where there was and no intercourse... she wanted to stay a virgin.  I kept them a virgin for years.  until she got her nikah with another man and i am still glad that her husband found her a virgin in bed.  He knows about me.  i have also done muta with full intercourse and sex involved.  And all my mutas were one at a time. 

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I am proud of the fact that the girls who wanted to stay a virgin in Muta.. were virgins till the Muta was over.. I never insisted on having more.  and still satisfied them fully mentally and physically.  All this was done in a Halal manner.  If the girl is virgin.. the father's consent is recommended.

Zanadine.

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yes that's true.

What i am trying to say is that mutah isn't acceptable in many societies, even shia sometimes!

Won't find many mutah partners in pakistan, i can guaran-damn-tee you that :Hijabi:

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