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I suppose WW 3 is now on!

If someone expects that it’s gonna be a total war like WW 2, he’s wrong. The third world war will consist of numerous local conflicts that occur in different time, sometimes simultaneously. Just conceder the geographic of “little wars” that took place after WW 2. It’s North Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Kuwait, Iran and Iraq, Yugoslavia, Albania and so on and so forth… Total number of this conflicts is about 300 (in 60 years!!!) We can call it World war, can’t we?

The possible reason of the war is one: control on energy resources which are to be over in nearest time. As far as such a weak in military point countries like Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Iran etc. control the most of energy resources of the whole world, it is obvious that Middle East is sure to become the main theatre of hostilities.

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You people discuss WW3 as if it's something fun and enjoyable. Sheesh :wacko:

Peace is great. Let it be.

Anyway, the next WW3's center is going to be Jerusalem, where Jesus and Mahdi are going to kick Dajjal and Sufyani's a**** good hard and proper :D

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LOL, Mazlum, youre absolutely right! For a moment I thought that we had some special war-analysts over here. :lol:

Yes, the next "big war" is most likely going to take place in Jerusalem between the army of the Believers (Non-munafiqeen Muslims, Prophet Jesus and the Mahdi) against the non-Believers (the majority of mis-informed Jews, the Dajjal and his ignorant followers).

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LOL, Mazlum, youre absolutely right! For a moment I thought that we had some special war-analysts over here. :lol:

Yes, the next "big war" is most likely going to take place in Jerusalem between the army of the Believers (Non-munafiqeen Muslims, Prophet Jesus and the Mahdi) against the non-Believers (the majority of mis-informed Jews, the Dajjal and his ignorant followers).

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Is it not possible that Ahmadinejad's intention is to make the return of Mahdi happen sooner than later?

Iran's dominant "Twelver" sect believes this will be Mohammed ibn Hasan, regarded as the 12th Imam, or righteous descendant of the Prophet Mohammad.

He is said to have gone into "occlusion" in the ninth century, at the age of five. His return will be preceded by cosmic chaos, war and bloodshed. After a cataclysmic confrontation with evil and darkness, the Mahdi will lead the world to an era of universal peace.

This is similar to the Christian vision of the Apocalypse. Indeed, the Hidden Imam is expected to return in the company of Jesus.

Mr Ahmadinejad appears to believe that these events are close at hand and that ordinary mortals can influence the divine timetable.

The prospect of such a man obtaining nuclear weapons is worrying. The unspoken question is this: is Mr Ahmadinejad now tempting a clash with the West because he feels safe in the belief of the imminent return of the Hidden Imam? Worse, might he be trying to provoke chaos in the hope of hastening his reappearance?

The 49-year-old Mr Ahmadinejad, a former top engineering student, member of the Revolutionary Guards and mayor of Teheran, overturned Iranian politics after unexpectedly winning last June's presidential elections.

The main rift is no longer between "reformists" and "hardliners", but between the clerical establishment and Mr Ahmadinejad's brand of revolutionary populism and superstition.

Its most remarkable manifestation came with Mr Ahmadinejad's international debut, his speech to the United Nations.

World leaders had expected a conciliatory proposal to defuse the nuclear crisis after Teheran had restarted another part of its nuclear programme in August.

Instead, they heard the president speak in apocalyptic terms of Iran struggling against an evil West that sought to promote "state terrorism", impose "the logic of the dark ages" and divide the world into "light and dark countries".

The speech ended with the messianic appeal to God to "hasten the emergence of your last repository, the Promised One, that perfect and pure human being, the one that will fill this world with justice and peace".

In a video distributed by an Iranian web site in November, Mr Ahmadinejad described how one of his Iranian colleagues had claimed to have seen a glow of light around the president as he began his speech to the UN.

"I felt it myself too," Mr Ahmadinejad recounts. "I felt that all of a sudden the atmosphere changed there. And for 27-28 minutes all the leaders did not blink…It's not an exaggeration, because I was looking.

"They were astonished, as if a hand held them there and made them sit. It had opened their eyes and ears for the message of the Islamic Republic."

Western officials said the real reason for any open-eyed stares from delegates was that "they couldn't believe what they were hearing from Ahmadinejad".

Their sneaking suspicion is that Iran's president actually relishes a clash with the West in the conviction that it would rekindle the spirit of the Islamic revolution and - who knows - speed up the arrival of the Hidden Imam.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...14/ixworld.html

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^you do realise that everything in bold goes along the lines of "sneaking suspicion......it appears....." etc... In short: speculation.

As for WW3, I don't think we can call a confrontation between Iran and USA/Israel WW3, because only 3 nations are involved. Nobody else is going to step into it. The European nations are too concerned about their voting population (we saw what happened after Iraq 2003) and the arab nations are mainly cowards.

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way2go: You dont need to tell me much about the coming of the Mahdi, because I know a lot about it. He would rule the Ummah for 7 years. During those 7 years, his people would enjoy a great deal of wealth and money. However, during his last few years on Earth, he would begin a military campaign against the Islamic opposition (the anti-Muslims). They would attack Islamic districts inside Europe and so the Mahdi Islamic Army would begin a 2-3 year war against the corrupt Europeans. He would nearly succeed in taking over the Vatican city, but he would receive a call that the Dajjal was spotted in Khorasan. Therefore his entire army would pull back towards the Middle East and he would then be sorrounded in Jerusalem. At this time, prophet Jesus will re-appear and would kill the Dajjal in a bloody battle.

Afterwards, the era of wealth and peace would be re-established once again (as it was before the war). Soon afterwards, trouble would spark once again but this time with the Gog and the Magog. Nothing could defeat Gog and Magog, but only Allah's powers.

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so lets say Israel bombs iran and Iran boms israel and the US bombs someone and someon bombs them. bog deal. there will still be billions of people alive and many of them will be war mongering jerks. Our destruction is inevitable. Our technology has simply evolved much faster than our minds

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arman-  I'm not sure Iran wants to join up with Syria right now.  It would be they who was doing syria the favor that's for sure

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True, but Syria has potential if it is protected. They helped us during the eight year defence, and did not stop their help even though a lot of pressure was put on them.

Considered the 4th strongest military in the middle-east, and having thousands of missiles aimed at the zionist regime, they can help a lot in case of a war against the Zionist regime, or the Americans.

We could even bomb American soldiers in Iraq together.

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Some people think that WW3 was the cold war which ended with the collapse of the USSR, and that waht we're seeing today is WW4.

Fighting World War IV

Fighting World War IV

by Jimmy DeYoung

A nation that has lost more than 21,000 of its finest young men and women in bloody conflicts in its short fiftyfive-year history understands what it is to be at war. From the beginning of its modern-day era, Israel has had to fight for its existence almost daily against those who wish to annihilate it.

Bible students who understand the prophetic scenario for the last days realize there will be continuing conflict between the Jewish nation and the nations surrounding Israel. The Scriptures reveal that Israel's neighbors are set on removing this tiny state from not only the map of the Middle East but the region itself.

For years some have speculated that World War III will play out on the battlefields of Israel and the Middle East. However, in the last six months or so, former U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Director R. James Woolsey, has said World War III is over. Said Woolsey, we are now fighting World War IV.

Woolsey believes the Cold War was World War III and that we are now engaged with the enemies on three fronts. This war, he said, did not begin with the attacks on America on 9/11. September 11, Woolsey says, was merely when America discovered that three powerful and dangerous elements had been at war with her for some time.

Woolsey points out that the enemies are (1) the Shiite Muslim fanatics who rule Iran and control Hezbollah, (2) the Islamo-fascists who rule Syria and previously controlled Iraq, and (3) the Wahhabi brand of Sunni Islamists who get their inspiration and funding from Saudi Arabia.

Woolsey admits that these three enemies hate each other and occasionally kill each other in wars and smaller skirmishes. But he also believes they are fully capable of uniting against a common enemy and are doing so now in the Middle East. The battle in Iraq has seriously weakened the Islamo-fascist leg of this evil axis; however, World War IV is far from won, he suggests.

Because Saddam Hussein's regime has been defeated and the Iraqi people once again have their country, the risk now, according to Woolsey, is that we simply pack up and go home and pretend the war is over. But it is not over. One partner of the Islamo-fascist camp in Iraq has been dealt with; but the other member, Syria, is very much a threat to the region and the rest of the world.

Syrian officials have said lasting peace in the Middle East depends on Israel's "total retreat" from territories it acquired in the 1967 war. Syria claims that once Israel accepts the so-called right of Palestinian refugees to return to Israel proper and retreats to the 1967 boundaries, "all Arab countries will be willing to sign a peace treaty with Israel. Total retreat in exchange for total peace."

The question of Syria hiding Saddam's weapons of mass destruction and harboring members of the Saddam Hussein-led Iraqi regime has never truly been answered. Many reliable reports have surfaced about Iraqi leaders hiding in Syria, and US National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice doubts Syrian promises that no such weapons crossed from Iraq into Syria.

At the offices of at least eleven Palestinian terrorists organizations in Damascus, a Syrian official said he considers those offices "cultural information points." He warned that shutting them down would accomplish nothing, adding that terrorism in the region would end once Israel handed back "occupied" territories and allowed the "return" of Palestinian refugees.

With its Shiite Muslim fanatics ruling the country and its surrogate terrorist group, Hezbollah, in southern Lebanon, Iran has presented to the world that it is moving toward reforming its government, even as it prepares weapons of mass destruction. US and Israeli intelligence have uncovered evidence that Iran will be ready to go nuclear in the near future.

Under the pretense of building a nuclear reactor for much-needed electrical power, Iran built a major reactor with the help of Russian technology and technicians. Intelligence reports indicate Iran also has two other reactors and facilities to convert uranium for use in nuclear weapons of mass-destruction.

It is a know fact that Iran has a delivery system and short-range and long-range missiles that could deliver a nuclear, biological, or chemical warhead to Israel and any part of Europe. Israel has always claimed that Iran is the real threat in the Middle East. Israel has also urged Russia to stop transferring its nuclear technology and technicians to Iran.

On a landmark visit to Lebanon recently, Iranian President Mohamad Khatami said that Syria, Lebanon and Iran will not simply bow to US pressure and warned America against creating a crisis in the region. President Khatami's three-day visit included talks with Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, the Hezbollah leader.

To the strains of songs about resistance and martyrdom and chants of "death to Israel," thousands of Shiites from all over Lebanon greeted Khatami at Beirut's sport stadium. Khatami's visit the first by an Iranian head of state since the 1979 Islamic revolution, allowed the Iranian president to express his backing for Hezbollah, a terrorist organization.

"The third group, the Islamist Sunni, al-Qaida and the like-thinkers, are in many ways going to be the hardest to deal with, " Woolsey says. "They are fueled by oil money from the Gulf, Saudi Arabia principally. However, many of the are wealthy in and of themselves. They are present in some sixty countries in the Middle East region and are fanatically anti-Western, anti-Christian and anti-Jewish."

Though the Bush White House and the US State department's diplomatic corps continually praise Saudi Arabia's cooperation in America's war on terrorism, many questions are yet unanswered concerning Saudi involvement in worldwide terrorism.

Wahhabism, founded by Muhamad al Wahhab almost three centuries ago, is the religious and political philosophy embraced by the present government of Saudi Arabia and its ruling family, the House of Saud. Wahhab was a zealous Muslim revivalist who lived during the Ottoman Empire's early decline.

Wahhab believed that Islam in general and Arabia in particular needed to be spiritually and literally repurified and returned to the true tenets of the faith. His Qur'anic literalism gave rise to a movement that sees itself as the guardian of "true" Islamic values.

In 1818 the Turks broke the first Wahhabi state in what today is known as Saudi Arabia. Later the Wahhabis resurrected to provide the focus of Arab resistance to the Ottoman Empire which they considered degenerate and corrupt.

In the chaotic years after the demise of the Ottoman Empire, those who embraced Wahhabism proved to be an able and fanatical fighting force, securing victory for Ibn Saud, their leader and founder of the present royal dynasty. The rest of Arabia was united and placed under the Wahhabist view of the world, man, law and Allah.

The house of Saud owes Wahhabism for its very existence and the dynasty it has today. Consequently, it is understandable that the funding and inspiration for terrorism around the world come from members of the ruling family of Saudi Arabia.

Considering all this information, Woolsey's perception that World War IV is now underway is remarkably viable. Woolsey's list of enemies, the Shiite fanatics who rule Iran and control Hezbollah, the Islamo-fascists who rule Syria and previously controlled Iraq, and the Wahhabi brand of Sunni Islamists who get their inspiration and funding from Saudi Arabia, is precisely on target.

Israel's participation in Woolsey's World War IV comes into focus practically and prophetically as one takes a closer look at the region and the potential for biblical prophecy to be fulfilled. To understand the practical aspect of the situation requires evaluating the region's political activities.

Woolsey' Islamo-fascists who rule Syria have consistently supported those who want to destroy Israel. In June 1967 the Syrian military might moved down from the north to attack Israel as the Jordanians approached from the east and the Egyptians came from the south.

The Israel Defense Forces stopped this three-sided invasion at least temporarily, only to face another effort by Syria to overrun Israel's military in 1973 and 1982. Since these desperate attempts to destroy Israel, Syria has facilitated Hezbollah's operation out of South Lebanon and its constant attacks on Israel's northern border.

Syria's refusal to close down the offices of at least eleven terrorist organizations in Damascus, its relationship with Saddam Hussein's regime, hiding of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction and development of its own weapons of mass destruction have positioned the country for its part in World War IV.

The Shiite fanatics ruling Iran have made known that they are still in charge of this hotbed of Islamic fundamentalism and that Iran is preparing for the battle with the "big Satan" (the United States) and the "little Satan" (Israel).

With Russia's help, Iran has developed a program that includes biological, chemical and nuclear warheads, with a delivery system to take a major war to Israel and even to the European Union.

Israeli intelligence has long said that Iran, not Iraq, is the major enemy in the Middle East. And now British and American intelligence agencies are beginning to agree.

The Wahhabi brand of Sunni Islamism that controls Saudi Arabia and the interest of the royal family have the earmarks of the scenario pictured in Woolsey's World War IV. Saudi funding of terrorism around the world and in particular in Israel has advanced the cause of radical Islam and set the stage for future intensity on this front.

Interestingly, the Bible speaks of the same three enemies as in Woolsey's World War IV. The ancient Jewish prophet Daniel revealed the truth about Syria, referred to as the "king of the north" in Daniel 11:40-42. Daniel helps us understand that Syria may be the first Arab state to move against Israel as the seven-year Tribulation Period begins.

Daniel alluded at Iran (Dan. 11:44) when mentioning the tidings out of the east." Ezekiel provided more information about the "eastern" enemy in Ezekiel 38:5. Biblical Persia, included in the list of nations rising up against Israel in the last days, in what we know today as Iran. Iran of today was called Persia until the 1920s.

The writer of Psalm 83 included another list of nations that aligned against Israel at the time of the end. In verse 6 the "Ishmaelites" are mentioned as part of a coalition of nations. Saudi Arabia is where Ishmael traveled to after leaving his father Abraham and where Ishmael established the one nation God promised him (Gen. 17:20).

The psalmist described the scenario for James Woolsey's World War IV in verse 4:

"They have said, Come, and let us cut them (Israel) off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance."

The stage is indeed set, the nations are in place and the curtain is about to go up on World War IV-or whatever the number might be.

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I think its a matter of when rather than if. I also think that it will be faught in the Middle East or stem from the Middle East. What does everyone think?

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Its definately looking more&more likely by the day.

All the "Sharon is a man of peace", Palestinians are terrorists end of story,

lets teach countries that "defy" the West a lesson...... won't end well, no thanx to the 4th Reich, aka the American government.

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arman-  I have to disagree.  i'm really not seeing syria as a serious player here.  They're ideology is out dated.  I don't think their soldiers would fight vey hard for assad

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I know, they are actually a 'far behind' 4th, but the same can be said about the rest of the Arab countries. Syria supported us during the war, and so they are our friends, and have been rewarded with great ties to Iran.

Militarily they can not offer us that much (though they have a nice Air Force that would own the Zionists & help against other potential enemies), but politically (regional (Arab countries)), and economically (circumventing some things), there is some help they can offer. Also the position of their country is very interesting.

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Closer to Europe, closer to the Zionist regime, closer to the Suez Canal, and next to Lebanon & Iraq. It will also send a stronger signal to many countries.

Also Iraq, even though they now (probably) have the weakest army in the middle-east, will be good partners. Their military rank was on the 24th place (in the middle-east) when the U.S. attacked them. For now though, we are growing economic partners of each other.

In my opinion Iran needs countries like Lebanon, Iraq & Syria to enable it to move its ground force to other regions. A belt needs to be created above the lower Arab countries, and a route towards Qods needs to be opened.

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Militarily they can not offer us that much (though they have a nice Air Force that would own the Zionists & help against other potential enemies),....

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You're kidding right?

The Syrian Air Force would own the IAF.....? :lol: :lol:

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You're kidding right?

The Syrian Air Force would own the IAF.....?  :lol:  :lol:

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Well I have no specific details about their Air Force, but on strategy pages their Air Force is ranked higher than the zionist's Air Force.

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Militarily they can not offer us that much (though they have a nice Air Force that would own the Zionists & help against other potential enemies),....

Even tho i hate the Zionists and Support Syria , i cannot agree with u on this

sorry but the IAF is alot stronger then the Syrian Air Force

Im not saying who will fight stronger or anything, but the IAF is unfortunatly stronger then the SAF

sorry

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Before Iraq, bush and co were under the impression given to them by morons like bernard lewis, that essentially the regimes that were "pro american" like egypt and saudi arabi (politically pro american) were full of people that hated the untited states and that the regimes that were anti american were full of people who longed for liberation and loved the united states. I think after iraq, the US has seen that EVERY population in the arab world is anti united states POLICIES and INTERFERENCE and there will be no "rising up" of any kind via our prescence.

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