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imam sadiq`s(AS) saying about king abdullah

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I have also heard this hadeeth. Rasulallah (saw) speaks about the last king of Arabia and his name will be Abdullah. Right before the rise of Al Qaim (as), he will die and there will be major disputes and civil war in Saudi Arabia, between the ruling families.

I spoke with a Saudi friend and he confirmed for me that there are big problems with vying for control of the throne between the families in Saudi. I forgot the exact reason, something to do with the children or something. And if you notice, the atmosphere in Saudi Arabia is ripe for civil war and internal problems...the Shias there are oppressed like no other, and it is just that time for revolt inshallah there...

Not to mention "King" Abdullah is very old now and has many health problems......

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what makes Abdullahs' succession trickeir is that waliul ehad Prince Sultan is hugely unpopular due to his somewhat harsh personality and not-so-soft nature. Prince Sultan is also very old and is suffering from cancer. That made people point to Nayef as the next king but he literally seems to have disappeared from the face of the earth and nobody seems to know where he is at the moment.

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I have also heard this hadeeth. Rasulallah (saw) speaks about the last king of Arabia and his name will be Abdullah. Right before the rise of Al Qaim (as), he will die and there will be major disputes and civil war in Saudi Arabia, between the ruling families.

I spoke with a Saudi friend and he confirmed for me that there are big problems with vying for control of the throne between the families in Saudi. I forgot the exact reason, something to do with the children or something. And if you notice, the atmosphere in Saudi Arabia is ripe for civil war and internal problems...the Shias there are oppressed like no other, and it is just that time for revolt inshallah there...

Not to mention "King" Abdullah is very old now and has many health problems......

(bismillah)

Same narration you're referring to also states that before that happens the Sufiyani will rise from Shaam.

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I found a narration in Bihar al Anwar 52/210, loosely translated:

There will be a political vacuum/power struggle in Hijaz after King Abdullah's death:

In a conversation with Abu Basir (ra) , Imam Sadiq (as) says "When you see the death of Abdullah, guarantee them the relief/zahoor, After his death, they will fail to decide on one successor, Thus the King of Years will become the King of months and days "

If I am not mistaken, it is also stated that he will die/or we would know of his death on the day of Arafah.

Another related hdaith says "A fool from the Bani Abbas will be murdered secretly. The cause of his death shall be that he would have married an eunuch whol will slay him when het gets an opportunity. The murder will remain unreported for forty days before it will be discovered, so the police will go out in search of this eunuch but they will not return before the downfall of their rule"

Imam Raza (as) indicates he has fifteen sons?

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It's estimated that the king has married about 30 women over his lifetime, though some say he keeps four or so wives at a time. It's also estimated that he has about 15 sons and 20 daughters. Abdullah breeds Arabian horses, and as an avid reader has established two libraries

http://worldnews.about.com/od/saudiarabia/p/kingabdullahsa.htm

Death of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia (we wish him long life) in 2015: The Shia believe that King Abdullah will be the last king of the House of Saud before the appearance of the Mahdi. Jaber Bolushi cites a Hadith attributed to Prophet Mohammad Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã (the Shia claim this Hadith used to be reported in Musnad Ahmad, but was later removed) in which the Prophet mentions that the last man who will govern Al-Hijaz (the region that includes Mecca & Medina) before the Mahdi will be called Abdullah and he will be the successor of his brother who is named by the name of an animal. The previous king of Saudi Arabia was King Fahd (Fahd means leopard). It is worth noting that King Abdullah is currently 84 years old. After he dies, a dispute will occur among the royal family as to who should succeed him. There will be a strife and blood shed. Then, people will search for the Mahdi and offer him allegiance between Rukun and Maqam in the Haram Masjid in Mecca.

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Salam Darul_Islam, yes I know about that, forgot to mention it :blush:

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In a conversation with Abu Basir (ra) , Imam Sadiq (as) says "When you see the death of Abdullah, guarantee them the relief/zahoor, After his death, they will fail to decide on one successor, Thus the King of Years will become the King of months and days "

Hmm, interesting. As we know, Al Sufyani (LA) will only rule for 9 months or less as the Imams stated...

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For that particular hadith, another interpretation is from another hadith where he means the King of Years becomes King of months and Days to mean the Abbassid rule of before, will emerge again as if it has never disappeared (Salafi/Wahabi Islam) and then it will stay for a short time after this dispute, so after Abdullah, the power struggle will see these Abbassids killing of each other.

And Allah knows best.

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Hi everyone. I told my dad that bihar ul anwar states that king abdullah will be the last king of Hejaz before the advent of Imam Mahdi,but he says that it is possible that the Bihar ul anwar was changed after the Iranian revolution. If there is any way this might have happened, please let me know.

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Hi everyone. I told my dad that bihar ul anwar states that king abdullah will be the last king of Hejaz before the advent of Imam Mahdi,but he says that it is possible that the Bihar ul anwar was changed after the Iranian revolution. If there is any way this might have happened, please let me know.

Ayatullah al-Khumayni removed some volumes of Bihar al-Anwar, but i doubt they played with the actual hadiths.

And there's mannnnny other interesting signs that have either come true, or are coming true.

And some hadiths comment on special eclipses in Ramadhan and Muharram and you can actually calculate these and find out their exact day and this isn't too away from happening tbh.

But i don't want to give the exact date because there's several ahadith that warn us against setting a time table.

And Allah(swt) knows best.

w/s

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King Abdullah

By Bridget Johnson

Who is he?:

The king of Saudi Arabia, formally known as the Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques. (These are Mecca and Medina.) Abdullah is also prime minister and commander of the National Guard. He succeeded King Fahd upon his death in 2005, but had already been running most of the country's affairs since Fahd suffered a stroke in 1995.

Birthdate:

1924 in Riyadh, son of King Abdulaziz Al Saud. Has 36 brothers. Spent time living in the desert with Bedouins. Follows Salafi (Sunni fundamentalist) Islam.

Personal life:

It's estimated that the king has married about 30 women over his lifetime, though some say he keeps four or so wives at a time. It's also estimated that he has about 15 sons and 20 daughters. Abdullah breeds Arabian horses, and as an avid reader has established two libraries.

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Politics:

King Abdullah has allowed miniscule freedoms in the traditionally repressive kingdom, such as supporting construction of the first Catholic Church in Saudi Arabia (for foreign workers) He's comfortable on the diplomatic/networking scene, enjoying a good relationship with U.S. leaders and becoming the first Saudi king to visit the Vatican.

On Terrorism:

Islamic radicals have never approved of the kingdom's close ties with the United States, but King Fahd's decision to let the U.S. use Saudi bases in the 1991 Gulf War particularly inflamed the Muslim world -- and Saudi native Osama bin Laden. Since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the U.S., where 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi, Saudi Arabia has waged a high-profile campaign against terrorists in their country.

Future:

King Abdullah believes that Saudi Arabia should take greater strides in modern technological advancements, and has planned King Abdullah University of Science and Technology to open in 2009 with a $10 billion (U.S.) endowment. After Abdullah became king, women were allowed to run (and won) for the first time in an election (Jeddah Chamber of Commerce and Industry), and he has expressed the desire for men and women to study side-by-side at his university. Reportedly, women will even be able to drive on campus. He has also called for global interfaith dialogue among monotheistic religions.

Quote:

"The first step on the path of salvation is the restoration of confidence in ourselves and in each other. Once confidence is restored, it will be accompanied by credibility. And if credibility is restored, then the winds of hope will blow. And when that happens, we will never allow any forces from outside the region to design the future of the region. Then no banner other than that of Arabism will hover over Arab land." -- King Abdullah addressing the 19th Arab League summit in March 2007

Source: http://worldnews.about.com/od/saudiarabia/p/kingabdullahsa.htm

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On 11/7/2010 at 11:20 PM, Muntazer said:

Thank you!

Also, my email is [Personal information was removed. See the Mod Note below.]

Can you tell me the date of the double eclipse?

Brother, it's never a good idea to put your email address publically on a public forum; some spammers try to abuse it 

And no, i won't tell anyone the date; i have kept it for myself.

But if you want to do this, i advise you to look up the ahadith that talk about the special eclipses (Shaykh al-Mufid mentions them).

Then look up the upcoming dates for Ramadhan and Muharram for the next several years (keep going until you can get a match)

Then look up the upcoming dates of the eclipses mentioned in the ahadith on the NASA website

And you should be able to get insha'Allah

However, i warn you to not rely on this too much; several ahadith warn us about setting a timetable; even the Imam (as) doesn't know when Allahسُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى will call upon him; this knowledge is with Allahسُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى. This may just be a possible time

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Brother, it's never a good idea to put your email address publically on a public forum; some spammers try to abuse it :(

And no, i won't tell anyone the date; i have kept it for myself.

But if you want to do this, i advise you to look up the ahadith that talk about the special eclipses (Shaykh al-Mufid mentions them).

Then look up the upcoming dates for Ramadhan and Muharram for the next several years (keep going until you can get a match)

Then look up the upcoming dates of the eclipses mentioned in the ahadith on the NASA website

And you should be able to get insha'Allah

However, i warn you to not rely on this too much; several ahadith warn us about setting a timetable; even the Imam (as) doesn't know when Allah(swt) will call upon him; this knowledge is with Allah(swt). This may just be a possible time

w/s

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There is a hadith by Imam Jafar al Sadiq (as) as he asked about two eclipses, he replies that it would be something out of the ordinary and no one would expect it (from their calculations). Thus, it will not happen as per scientific calculation.

And Allah knows best.

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King Abdullah Suffers from Herniated Disk

Saudi King Abdullah is suffering from a herniated disc, the royal court announced on Friday, four days after he failed to preside over the weekly cabinet meeting.

"The Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques ... is suffering from back problems which doctors diagnosed as a herniated disc," said a brief statement carried by the official SPA news agency.

"Doctors have advised him to rest as part of his therapy," it said, adding that the announcement followed the monarch's "principle of transparency."

The 86-year-old king has curtailed his activities since June with no clear explanation, although diplomats have said they understood he was fatigued.

On Monday his half brother, second Deputy Prime Minister and Interior Minister Prince Nayef bin Abdul Aziz, chaired the cabinet meeting with no explanation why the king was absent.

The slipping or rupturing of one of the discs in the spine, a herniated disc, is not life-threatening and is usually treated by rest, physical therapy and anti-inflammatory drugs.

Nevertheless, the report of the king's ailment underscored the growing attention by analysts and foreign governments to eventual political changes looming for Saudi Arabia, the leading supplier of petroleum to the globe and a key political player in the Middle East.

The royals who have dominated the government for 30 years or more are all aged and have taken treatment for various health problems, usually never defined, during the past year.

The first deputy prime minister, Crown Prince Sultan bin Abdul Aziz, his age estimated at 84 or 85, has been in Morocco since the end of August "on holiday," according to official statements.

Sultan, also defense minister since 1962, was treated for cancer in the United States in 2008-2009 and spent more than a year in the US and Morocco convalescing.

Prince Nayef, 76, Sultan's full brother and considered second in line for the throne, has also undergone unspecified treatment in the past year. Nayef has been interior minister for 35 years.

Prince Saud al-Faisal, 70, the foreign minister for 35 years, has serious back problems and was absent for treatment in the United States during the past year, according to diplomats.

Other key royals, including veteran Riyadh governor Prince Salman bin Abdul Aziz and national security council head Prince Bandar bin Sultan -- the former ambassador in Washington -- have also spent long stretches abroad for unspecified treatment in the past two years.(AFP)

Beirut, 13 Nov 10, 08:47

http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/NewsDesk.nsf/getstory?openform&72FF329960A0218AC22577DA0024859C

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Today I heard that the people in Hajj were wondering what happened to the King, why he wasn't in Hajj, and it was announced that Saudi Prince Nayef was selected for doing activities in the absence of the King.

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http://www.naharnet.com/domino/tn/NewsDesk.nsf/getstory?openform&AA39C9AE6ABBF828C225758600672C38

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There is a hadith by Imam Jafar al Sadiq (as) as he asked about two eclipses, he replies that it would be something out of the ordinary and no one would expect it (from their calculations). Thus, it will not happen as per scientific calculation.

And Allah knows best.

This is one of the hadiths in question:

al-Fadhl bin Shadhan--Ahmad bin Muhammad bin Abi Nasr--Tha'laba al-Azdi, who said:

Abu Ja'far(as) said: "Two signs will come before the one who will rise (al-Qaim)(as): There will be an eclipse of the sun in the middle of the month of Ramadhan and an eclipse of the moon at the end of it."

"Son of the Messenger of God," I said, "usually the eclipse of the sun occurs at the end of the month and the eclipse of the moon occurs in the middle of it?"

"I know what I said." said Abu Ja'far(as), "They are signs which have not occurred since Adam came down."

And this is mentioned in Shaykh al-Mufid's "Kitab al-Irshad"

Now, the chain of this hadith isn't exactly flawless (and Allah(swt) Knows Best) but the phenomenon the hadiths mention will actually occur a few times over the next X years (i don't want to give a specific number out here) and when you add other hadiths to it, you can narrow the year down to a single year.

However, we have to remember that Allah(swt) is the only One with this knowledge.

وَيَقُولُونَ مَتَىٰ هَـٰذَا الْوَعْدُ إِن كُنتُمْ صَادِقِينَ

قُلْ إِنَّمَا الْعِلْمُ عِندَ اللَّـهِ وَإِنَّمَا أَنَا نَذِيرٌ مُّبِينٌ

And they say, when is this Promise, if you are truthful?

Say: "The knowledge is only with God and I am only a clear warner (67:25-26)

i simply found the dates in accordance with mannnny other ahadith predicing the end of times to be interesting.

Funnily enough, even knowledgeable Sunnis are sure of this happening. Because they also have the hadith that every 100 years, a person from the line of the Prophet (pbuh) comes and rectifies the religion. And it's been ~90 years since the Khilafah fell, so they're waiting for someone from the line of the Prophet (pbuh) to come soon and fix the deen (they don't consider al-Khumayni(ra) to be that one for this 100 years).

Even that Khariji 'Awlaqi mentioned this

Ya Allah(swt), Your Ummah is calling out for help, please provide us a Leader from Your awliya amen

w/s

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Saudi king hurts back, hands hajj duties to deputy

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– Sat Nov 13, 10:15 am ET

RIYADH, Saudi Arabia – The Saudi king on Saturday transferred his traditional supervisory duties of the annual Muslim pilgrimage to his deputy prime minister after rupturing a disc in his back.

King Abdullah normally heads the committee charged with ensuring the smooth operation of the hajj, the largest annual gathering in the world. But a statement released by the Royal Court said the 86-year-old monarch herniated a disc in his back and Prince Nayef bin Abdulaziz will take over the supervisory role.

The statement did not say how the king's injury occurred.

More than 2 million people attend the hajj every year. Many Muslims from around the world wait a lifetime for a chance to make the spiritual journey in the footsteps of the Prophet Muhammad and Abraham, whom Muslims view as a forefather of Islam. For believers, it is an opportunity to cleanse one's sins before God.

It is also a logistical nightmare. Over four days, the population of a small city moves by car, bus and foot between Mecca and several holy sites in the desert nearby, each day performing a different rite all at the same time.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101113/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_saudi_hajj_1

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Now, the chain of this hadith isn't exactly flawless (and Allah(swt) Knows Best) but the phenomenon the hadiths mention will actually occur a few times over the next X years (i don't want to give a specific number out here) and when you add other hadiths to it, you can narrow the year down to a single year.

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It is impossible to have a solar eclipse in the middle of the month or a lunar eclipse at the end of the month together, thus you can't calculate when it may happen. Hence it being a miracle. Also, I believe that the call from the sky will take place in the same month, same year.

As for the King's ill health, I wish not to will anyone bad health and I wish that he lives a good life in imaan, remember we must never will something bad to happen on anyone. So is health condition is irrelevant, that and the fact that hadiths hint that a particular Abdullah is likely to be assassinated....

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It is impossible to have a solar eclipse in the middle of the month or a lunar eclipse at the end of the month together, thus you can't calculate when it may happen. Hence it being a miracle. Also, I believe that the call from the sky will take place in the same month, same year.

As for the King's ill health, I wish not to will anyone bad health and I wish that he lives a good life in imaan, remember we must never will something bad to happen on anyone. So is health condition is irrelevant, that and the fact that hadiths hint that a particular Abdullah is likely to be assassinated....

I don't know if any of you heard the latest speech by Sayyid Hassan(ha) regarding the issue of the tribunal in Lebanon. He said that Bashir Assad (President of Syria) and King Abdullah were working with the different Sunni factions in Lebanon (March 14 and others) to try to create a good process for Lebanon to stay stable despite whatever the International tribunal outcome is. He said that this effort (on the part of Assad and Abdullah) was a sincere effort and he endorses and agrees with this. So if there is a strong agreement between Saudi/ King Adbullah, March 14, other Sunni factions, and Hezb, this would be very bad/ nightmare scenario for US/Israel and they may try to assasinate Abdullah to sabotage this effort. So the assasination scenario may be more likely at the current time.

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Power struggle clouds Saudi Kingdom

Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:54PM

The Illness of 86-year-old King Abdullah has fueled speculations over the potential successor to the Saudi Arabia's monarch.

The royal court announced that King Abdullah is suffering from a herniated disc.

"Doctors have advised him to rest as part of his therapy," a brief statement carried by the official SPA news agency said on Friday. The ailing king has curtailed his activities since June. The illness also forced the monarch to miss his cabinet meeting last week.

Many analysts are speculating a major power struggle for the crown as all potential candidates are people of age.

The king's 76-year-old half-brother and also second deputy minister Prince Nayef bin Abdul Aziz, who chaired last week's cabinet gathering, underwent unspecified medical treatment last year. Nayef has been interior minister for 35 years. The prince's full brother, 85-year-old Crown Prince Sultan Bin Abdul Aziz, the first man in line for the succession, also battled cancer in a US hospital last year. In an interview with Press TV on Tuesday, Director of IGA in Washington Ali al-Ahmed confirmed the situation, saying that the son of interior minister Mohammed bin Nayef is one possible candidate for the role.

"The sons of King Abdullah are playing increasing roles into the power struggle," he noted.

http://presstv.com/detail/151295.html

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Power struggle clouds Saudi Kingdom

Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:54PM

The Illness of 86-year-old King Abdullah has fueled speculations over the potential successor to the Saudi Arabia's monarch.

The royal court announced that King Abdullah is suffering from a herniated disc.

"Doctors have advised him to rest as part of his therapy," a brief statement carried by the official SPA news agency said on Friday. The ailing king has curtailed his activities since June. The illness also forced the monarch to miss his cabinet meeting last week.

Many analysts are speculating a major power struggle for the crown as all potential candidates are people of age.

The king's 76-year-old half-brother and also second deputy minister Prince Nayef bin Abdul Aziz, who chaired last week's cabinet gathering, underwent unspecified medical treatment last year. Nayef has been interior minister for 35 years. The prince's full brother, 85-year-old Crown Prince Sultan Bin Abdul Aziz, the first man in line for the succession, also battled cancer in a US hospital last year. In an interview with Press TV on Tuesday, Director of IGA in Washington Ali al-Ahmed confirmed the situation, saying that the son of interior minister Mohammed bin Nayef is one possible candidate for the role.

"The sons of King Abdullah are playing increasing roles into the power struggle," he noted.

http://presstv.com/detail/151295.html

The choice of words of the title of the article and the last line.... wow.

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Saudi king names son natl. guard chief

Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:18AM

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Saudi Prince Miteb bin Abdullah

Saudi King Abdullah has appointed his son, Prince Miteb bin Abdullah, as both minister of state and commander of the National Guard.

King Abdullah also accepted the resignation of his brother Prince Badr bin Abdul Aziz as deputy head of the National Guard over health reasons.

Earlier the king had received a request from Prince Badr to relieve him from his post on health grounds, the Saudi Press Agency reported.

The National Guard -- a fully trained army of between 100,000 and 120,000 men -- operates in parallel, and as a palace-directed counter-balance, to the Saudi ground forces under the defense ministry. The monarch has been head of the National Guard since 1962.

The palace announcement suggests that Prince Miteb may be the likely replacement for aging King Abdullah.

Saudi and US officials say a large number of the 178 attack and transport helicopters included in a 30 to 60 billion dollar arms deal with the US announced in October are destined for the national guard.

Source: http://edition.presstv.ir/detail/151456.html

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Saudi King admitted to hospital

Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:49PM

Doctors have advised the 86-year-old monarch, who is widely believed to be in poor health, to rest more because of a slipped disc, the official SPA news agency said on Friday.

"The king felt more pain in his back, so further tests were carried out at the King Faisal Specialist Hospital in Riyadh," SPA reported.

"It appears he has a blood clot in addition to his slipped disc, which is pressuring the nerves so the medical team advised him to rest and monitor the situation."

Media speculation on the king's deteriorating health reignited on Wednesday, when the king resigned as head of the country's National Guard and transferred the influential post to his son Prince Mitab bin Abdullah, 57, in an apparent sign that the elderly monarch is beginning to lessen some of his duties.

King Abdullah has been head of the National Guard since 1962. He has also handed over his traditional supervisory duties for the annual hajj pilgrimage to his deputy prime minister Prince Nayef bin Abdulaziz al-Saud. The king's health problems come while Crown Prince Sultan bin Abdul Aziz, also in his 80s, has been abroad for much of the past two years as he sought health treatment for an unannounced illness widely believed to be cancer.

Prince Nayef, 76, Sultan's full brother and considered second in line to the throne, has also undergone unspecified treatment in the past year. Nayef has been interior minister for 35 years.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/151668.html

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Saudi King Abdullah leaves for the U.S. for medical treatment

JEDDAH (Reuters) – Saudi Arabia's aging King Abdullah flew to the United States for medical treatment on Monday, while a frail Crown Prince Sultan hurriedly returned from abroad to govern the world's largest oil exporter.

The kingdom is keen to show its allies in Washington and elsewhere there will be no power vacuum as health problems beset its octogenarian rulers, but the question of whether a reformist or a conservative will take over remains a matter of concern.

Abdullah, thought to be around 86 or 87, asked Crown Prince Sultan to fly home from Morocco to run the kingdom during his absence.

The king will be seeking treatment after a blood clot complicated a slipped spinal disc, the state news agency SPA said. It did not say when Abdullah would be back.

With both Abdullah and Sultan in their 80s, speculation arose that conservative Interior Minister Prince Nayef, at a relatively youthful 76, could take over running the affairs of state some time in the near future.

Diplomats say Sultan, who is also defense minister and has major health problems of his own, has been much less active during his convalescence in Morocco.

Abdullah appointed his half-brother Nayef second deputy prime minister in 2009 in a move that analysts say will secure the leadership in the event of serious health problems afflicting the king and crown prince and improve Nayef's chances of one day being king.

Diplomats in Riyadh say Western governments concerned about the fate of social and economic reforms promoted by Abdullah have reservations about the ascent of Nayef, seen as a religious and social traditionalist.

Nayef long denied that the September 11 attacks of 2001 were carried out by Saudis or al Qaeda, suggesting they were carried out by supporters of Israel. He is seen as close to the powerful and hardline Saudi clerical establishment blamed by Washington for encouraging an ideology that promotes bigotry and fanaticism.

GLOBAL CONCERN

King Abdullah, who came to power in 2005, is the sixth leader of Saudi Arabia, whose political stability is of regional and global concern. It controls more than a fifth of the world's crude oil reserves, is a vital U.S. ally in the region, a major holder of dollar assets and home to the biggest Arab bourse.

As home to Islam's holiest sites as well as birthplace of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, Saudi Arabia is key to global efforts to fight Islamic militancy.

Washington wants Riyadh to continue social and economic reforms promoted by Abdullah that were seen as crucial after a group composed of mainly Saudis carried out the September 11 attacks of 2001.

But confusion still swirls over the real state of health of both Abdullah and Sultan and what will happen to Abdullah's policies.

Diplomats say there has been uncertainty about Abdullah's health since he canceled a visit to France in July.

A series of official announcements over the past week on the king's health reflect a desire to reassure Washington that the ruling family's grasp of affairs remains firm in tense times.

The hasty return of Sultan from a three-month break in Morocco was more low-key than his return last year from treatment for unspecified health problems. Then the half-brother to Abdullah, only a few years his junior, was met with a Bedouin sword dance.

Saudi state television showed Sultan at Riyadh airport, where he was greeted by senior princes of the Saudi royal family, which may soon face the test of managing an orderly transfer of power. Abdullah was not present at the event.

The princes at the top of the hierarchy in the absolute monarchy are all in their 70s and 80s and the Al Saud family, in power since the kingdom was founded in 1932, will remain a gerontocracy unless it soon promotes younger princes.

While official media seek to present family unity, tensions remain between the senior princes over who will run the country and over securing positions for their sons in the future political architecture of the absolute monarchy.

Rulers have so far all been sons of founder Abdul-Aziz Ibn Saud and many of the country's 18 million people want to see power pass to a new generation.

(Writing by Andrew Hammond; Editing by Samia Nakhoul)

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(salam)

Dude, Imam will only come, if we are prepared .... No abdullah, lunar or solar eclipse can predict the coming of Imam Al Mahdi. I think we should all focus on developing ourselves ( this includes me as well) rather than predicting the coming of Imam through solar and lunar Eclipse.

Peace

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(salam)

Dude, Imam will only come, if we are prepared .... No abdullah, lunar or solar eclipse can predict the coming of Imam Al Mahdi. I think we should all focus on developing ourselves ( this includes me as well) rather than predicting the coming of Imam through solar and lunar Eclipse.

Peace

Dear brother,

you can start by leading us and and preparing yourself and first of all by stoping to use words like "dude and dudette".

is that how you will adress your fellow mujahideen in the Imam's army?

Because some people are anticipating does not necessarily mean they are bad people or are not preparing.

besides,i dont wish King Abdullah bad nor do i wish him death no matter how good or bad he is.if he is a good man and someone with good intentions for islam and muslims,i sincerely pray for him and wish him long life and health.may Allah reward him for his efforts.afterall all of us will one day die.Allah knows best!

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ÇáÓáÇã Úáíßã

the Prophet (pbuh) said: [A man named after an animal will rule over Al-Hijaz. He will seem to you from far as if he is squint-eyed but as you get close to him, you will find his sight is sound. His successor will be a brother of his called Abdullah. Woe unto our fellow Shi’a from him – he repeated it thrice – announce his death to me and I shall announce the Appearance of the Hujjat (the proof and authority of Allah) to you.]

And, there he was, Fahd , the king of Saudi Arabia named after an animal (cheetah) and who seems squint-eyed from afar whereas his eyes look perfectly normal when you get close to him. These features are not easy to find in one person and, indeed, Abdullah did rule after him. Therefore, the news of the death of Abdullah is the only thing in the story that has not come about yet. Hence, where is the forerunner of Imam Al-Mahdi (as), the proof and authority of Allah (Hujjatullah)? The narrations mentioned that he would appear almost six years before the advent of the Imam. Has anyone of you ever asked himself about that? No, you have not because you have let go of the Imam (as) and replaced him with Zayd, Omar and others… And you will not prepare yourselves to receive him, same as you have not prepared yourselves for meeting Allah. Instead, you managed to make this worldly life thrive but you ruined your life in the Hereafter. Guilt, narcissism, ego, avidity to gain despicable earthly positions and so on… have severely marked your faces… Yes, you have not had time to earnestly wait for the Imam (as) without fanatic and depraved emotional tendencies.

• As reported on the authority of Abu Baser, who said, I heard Abu Abdullah (as) say: [Whoever ensures me the death of Abdullah, I guarantee him the rise of Al-Qa’im. Then he added: if Abdullah dies and, after him, people do not agree on someone to succeed him, the situation would not end without the advent of your Imam (Al-Yamani), if Allah so wills. Thus the rule that lasted years vanishes and the rule of months and days follows. So, I said: does that period last? No, he answered.]

Indeed, we notice that the rule, which lasts for years, exists no longer thanks to Allah, and we are experiencing the rule of months and days, which every Iraqi is forced to witness. In fact, when it first assumed power, the Iraqi Governing Council changed its president every thirty days. Afterwards, the council agreed upon appointing a president who stayed in office for eight months!!! And so on…

This narration also contains a clear indication that we are living at the time of the main forerunner of Imam Al-Mahdi (as), who will appear a little while before the Imam (as) does, since Abdullah is the current ruler of Hijaz and he is old, and after him the rule will only go to Al-Qa’im.

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Hence, where is the forerunner of Imam Al-Mahdi (as), the proof and authority of Allah (Hujjatullah)? The narrations mentioned that he would appear almost six years before the advent of the Imam. Has anyone of you ever asked himself about that? No, you have not because you have let go of the Imam (as) and replaced him with Zayd, Omar and others…

This narration also contains a clear indication that we are living at the time of the main forerunner of Imam Al-Mahdi (as), who will appear a little while before the Imam (as) does, since Abdullah is the current ruler of Hijaz and he is old, and after him the rule will only go to Al-Qa’im.

(wasalam)

What do you mean by the forerunner of Imam Mahdi (as) ?

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(bismillah)

ÇáÓáÇã Úáíßã

the Prophet (pbuh) said: [A man named after an animal will rule over Al-Hijaz. He will seem to you from far as if he is squint-eyed but as you get close to him, you will find his sight is sound. His successor will be a brother of his called Abdullah. Woe unto our fellow Shi’a from him – he repeated it thrice – announce his death to me and I shall announce the Appearance of the Hujjat (the proof and authority of Allah) to you.]

And, there he was, Fahd , the king of Saudi Arabia named after an animal (cheetah) and who seems squint-eyed from afar whereas his eyes look perfectly normal when you get close to him. These features are not easy to find in one person and, indeed, Abdullah did rule after him. Therefore, the news of the death of Abdullah is the only thing in the story that has not come about yet. Hence, where is the forerunner of Imam Al-Mahdi (as), the proof and authority of Allah (Hujjatullah)? The narrations mentioned that he would appear almost six years before the advent of the Imam. Has anyone of you ever asked himself about that? No, you have not because you have let go of the Imam (as) and replaced him with Zayd, Omar and others… And you will not prepare yourselves to receive him, same as you have not prepared yourselves for meeting Allah. Instead, you managed to make this worldly life thrive but you ruined your life in the Hereafter. Guilt, narcissism, ego, avidity to gain despicable earthly positions and so on… have severely marked your faces… Yes, you have not had time to earnestly wait for the Imam (as) without fanatic and depraved emotional tendencies.

• As reported on the authority of Abu Baser, who said, I heard Abu Abdullah (as) say: [Whoever ensures me the death of Abdullah, I guarantee him the rise of Al-Qa’im. Then he added: if Abdullah dies and, after him, people do not agree on someone to succeed him, the situation would not end without the advent of your Imam (Al-Yamani), if Allah so wills. Thus the rule that lasted years vanishes and the rule of months and days follows. So, I said: does that period last? No, he answered.]

Indeed, we notice that the rule, which lasts for years, exists no longer thanks to Allah, and we are experiencing the rule of months and days, which every Iraqi is forced to witness. In fact, when it first assumed power, the Iraqi Governing Council changed its president every thirty days. Afterwards, the council agreed upon appointing a president who stayed in office for eight months!!! And so on…

This narration also contains a clear indication that we are living at the time of the main forerunner of Imam Al-Mahdi (as), who will appear a little while before the Imam (as) does, since Abdullah is the current ruler of Hijaz and he is old, and after him the rule will only go to Al-Qa’im.

What is the source of these hadiths? What books? What pages?

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