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(salam)

He is dead, because if he wasn't he would of been recorded to prove it!

get over it, they aren't going to admit that he's dead

"The king of YEARS will die.. and the king of DAYS will arrive..."

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Egypt uprising weakens ailing Saudi king

Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:5PM

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The already-ailing Saudi Arabian King's health condition has reportedly deteriorated seriously due to his efforts to prevent the ouster of former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak.

Abdullah Ibn Abdulaziz Al Saud tried to rally the United States support for Mubarak's continued stay in power despite a popular Revolution in Egypt, urging the removal of the 30-year-long Egyptian leader's regime.

"These efforts certainly didn't help his health and probably harmed recovery," the US daily World Tribune citing an intelligence source as saying on Friday.

"He has suffered a major medical setback," the source said. The 86-year-old monarch, who is reportedly a close friend of Mubarak's, has been recovering from two operations in the US in late 2010.

Mubarak handed power over to the Supreme Council of the Egyptian Armed Forces on Friday, giving in to 18 straight days of pro-democracy demonstrations.

The protests were fiercely confronted by Egyptian security forces. More than 300 people have lost their lives since the popular movements began on January 25, reports say.

Abdullah called Mubarak late last month to ensure him of his support, describing the popular movements as "tampering with Egypt's security and stability in the name of freedom of expression,” AFP reported.

The king branded the protesters as "intruders" and said, “Saudi Arabia stands with all its power with the government and people of Egypt."

The Friday victory was followed by countrywide jubilation in Egypt and Yemen as well as international congratulatory messages, namely from Iran and the Lebanese resistance movement of Hezbollah.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/164957.html

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King Abdullah's Death

Although what I'm about to share with you is NOT a "definite sign", but since so many people have asked about it, and since it seems to be coming true in the real world, I will outline what narrations we have regarding King Abdullah and his death and the appearance of Imam Mahdi (pbuhaf).

Hadith 1

Úä ÑÓæá Çááå (Õ):

(íÍßã ÇáÍÌÇÒ ÑÌá ÇÓãå ÇÓã ÍíæÇä ¡ ÅÐÇ ÑÃíÊå ÍÓÈÊ Ýí Úíäå ÇáÍæá ãä ÇáÈÚíÏ ¡ æÅÐÇ ÇÞÊÑÈÊ ãäå áÇÊÑì Ýí Úíäå ÔíÆÇð ¡ íÎáÝå ÃÎ áå ÇÓãå ÚÈÏÇááå. æíá áÔíÚÊäÇ ãäå ¡ ÃÚÇÏåÇ ËáÇËÇð º ÈÔÑæäí ÈãæÊå ÃÈÔÑßã ÈÙåæÑ ÇáÍÌÉ )

ãÆÊÇä æÎãÓæä ÚáÇãÉ: 122

From Rasulollah (pbuhaf):

Hijaz (Saudi Arabia) will be ruled by a man whose name is the name of an animal, when you see him from a distance, you would think he has a lazy eye, and if you get close to him, you do not see anything (wrong) in his eyes. He will be succeeded by a brother of his, named Abdullah. Woe to our Shia (followers) from him! Woe to our Shia (followers) from him! Woe to our Shia (followers) from him! - he repeated it three times - Give me the good news of his death, and I shall give you the good news of the appearance of the hujjah (Imam Mahdi).

Reference: Two Hundred and Fifty Signs, sign number 122

Hijaz (Saudi Arabia) will be ruled by a man whose name is the name of an animal

The king with the name of animal - is King Fahad (Cheetah/Leopard).

when you see him from a distance, you would think he has a lazy eye, and if you get close to him, you do not see anything (wrong) in his eyes.

Indeed:

He will be succeeded by a brother of his, named Abdullah.

After his death - his brother Abdullah became king (he is the current king).

Give me the good news of his death, and I shall give you the good news of the appearance of the hujjah (Imam Mahdi).

His death is GOOD NEWS!

King Abdullah's death = Appearance of Imam Mahdi (in a very short amount of time).

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This is a Sunni narration. The author of the book copied it from Musnad Ahmad Ibn Hanbal - but now it cannot be found in Musnad Ahmad.

Some have argued that since the author of the 250 Signs book is a very reliable scholar, then the hadith must have been dropped from the new prints of Musnad Ahmad due to influence from the Saudis.

Others say the hadith does not exist - so it's false.

This can be checked if someone has a very very old copy of Musnad Ahmad - perhaps an ancient copy in a library.

Some have argued that since it was written before these kings existed, then the hadith MUST be authentic because it has spoken of future events which seem to have come true.

Hadith 2

ÓãÚÊ ÃÈÇ ÚÈÏÇááå (Ú) ¡ íÞæá : ãä íÖãä áí ãæÊ ÚÈÏÇááå ÃÖãä áå ÇáÞÇÆã ¡ Ëã ÞÇá : ÅÐÇ ãÇÊ ÚÈÏÇááå áã íÌÊãÚ ÇáäÇÓ ÈÚÏå Úáì ÃÍÏ ¡ æáã íÊäÇå åÐÇ ÇáÃãÑ Ïæä ÕÇÍÈßã Åä ÔÇÁ Çááå ¡ æíÐåÈ ãáß ÇáÓäíä ¡ æíÕíÑ ãáß ÇáÔåæÑ æÇáÃíÇã¡ ÝÞáÊ : íØæá Ðáß ¿ ÞÇá : ßáÇ

ÈÍÇÑ ÇáÃäæÇÑ- Ì 52: 21

From Abi Baseer who heard from Imam Sadiq (pbuhaf):

Whoever guarantees for me the death of Abdullah, I will guarantee for him the Qa'im (Imam Mahdi).

When Abdullah dies, then people will not gather/agree on anyone after him, and this matter will not except for your companion (Imam Mahdi) inshallah, and the kingdom of years will be over, and it will become the kingdom of months and days.

So I asked: Will that be prolonged? He said: No.

Biharul Anwar, Volume 52, page 21

Whoever guarantees for me the death of Abdullah, I will guarantee for him the Qa'im (Imam Mahdi).

King Abdullah's death = Appearance of Imam Mahdi - guaranteed!

When Abdullah dies, then people will not gather/agree on anyone after him

Self explanatory. The people will not agree on who is to be king - meaning there will be trouble.

and this matter will not except for your companion (Imam Mahdi) inshallah

After Abdullah, the kingdom/ruler ship will be for Imam Mahdi (pbuhaf) inshallah.

and the kingdom of years will be over, and it will become the kingdom of months and days.

After Abdullah's death, and before Imam Mahdi finally takes control, there will be a period of chaos in which rulers come and go - ruling only months or weeks or days!

So I asked: Will that be prolonged? He said: No.

The period of chaos will be short, and Imam Mahdi's appearance will be very soon after the death of Abdullah!

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This is a Shia narration. The scholars who say that Hadith 1 does not exist, would also say that we do not know who this Abdullah is that Imam Sadiq is referring to. It could be any king/ruler of any country called Abdullah. For example, it could be the Jordanian King Abdullah, or a ruler in the future.

Those who say Hadith 1 is correct, say this is the same Abdullah as Hadith 1.

Hadith 3

Úä ÇáÅãÇã ÇáÈÇÞÑ (Ú)

ÅÐÇ ÙåÑ ÇáÓÝíÇäí Úáì ÇáÃÈÞÚ æÚáì ÇáãäÕæÑ æÇáßäÏí æÇáÊÑß æÇáÑæã ¡ ÎÑÌ æ ÕÇÑ Çáì ÇáÚÑÇÞ ¡ Ëã íØáÚ ÇáÞÑä Ðæ ÇáÔÝÇ ¡ ÝÚäÏ Ðáß åáÇß ÚÈÏÇááå

ÇáãÚÌã ÇáãæÖæÚí áÃÍÇÏíË ÇáÅãÇã ÇáãåÏí Ú ÇáßæÑÇäí553

From Imam Baqir (pbuhaf):

When the Sufyani rises against Al-Abqa', and Al-Mansour, and Al-Kindy, and the Turks, and the Romans, he will leave and go to Iraq, then the horn of (or the century of) healing will come out, and at that point will be the death of Abdullah.

Al-Mo'jam Al-Mawthou'i Le Ahadith Imam Mahdi by Al-Kourani p. 553

The wording and names used in this hadith are mysterious.

If the Abdullah in this hadith is the SAME Abdullah as Hadith 1 and/or Hadith 2, then a large portion of the battles of the Sufyani and developments prior to Imam Mahdi's appearance will be DURING the life of Abdullah.

His death will be after the Sufyani enters Iraq.

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The scholars who say that Hadith 1 does not exist, would also say that we do not know who this Abdullah is that Imam Baqir is referring to. It could be ANYONE called Abdullah.

Hadith 4

æÚä ÇãÇã ÇáÕÇÏÞ (Ú) ÞÇá:

ÈíäÇ ÇáäÇÓ æÞæÝÇð ÈÚÑÝÇÊ ÅÐ ÃÊÇåã ÑÇßÈ Úáì äÇÞÉ ÐÚáÈÉ ¡ æíÎÈÑåã ÈãæÊ ÎáíÝÉ¡ ÚäÏ ãæÊå ÝÑÌ Âá ãÍãÏ æÝÑÌ ÇáäÇÓ ÌãíÚÇð.

ÇáÈÍÇÑ:52/240

From Imam Sadiq (pbuhaf):

While the people are staying in Arafat (for Hajj), a rider on a light and fast camel comes to them, and gives them news of the death of the Khalifah (king). At his death is the faraj (relief) of the family of Mohammad and the faraj (relief) of all the people.

Biharul Anwar volume 52, page 240

It appears that this "Khalifah" is the same king Abdullah. IF this is true, then it appears that his death will be on the day of Arafat or very shortly before it.

Apparently, "light and fast camel" is a reference for something like a motorbike.

At the death of this khalifah is the relief of the Ahlulbayt of Mohammad and all the people - which is a clear reference to the rise of Imam Mahdi (pbuhaf).

There is another hadith which says they will kill the man riding the "light and fast camel" when he gives the news. Obviously the Saudi authorities will not be pleased that he is giving this GOOD news, and will kill him.

Hadith 5

Úä ÇáÅãÇã ÇáÈÇÞÑ(Ú):

íßæä ÓÈÈ ãæÊå Ãäå íäßÍ ÎÕíÇð áå ÝíÞæã ÝíÐÈÍå æíßÊã ãæÊå ÃÑÈÚíä íæãÇð ¡ ÝÅÐÇ ÓÇÑÊ ÇáÑßÈÇä Ýí ØáÈ ÇáÎÕí áã íÑÌÚ Ãæá ãä íÎÑÌ ÍÊì íÐåÈ ãáßåã.

ßãÇá ÇáÏíä Õ 655

From Imam Baqir (pbuhaf):

The reason for his death is that he will have intercourse with one of his (male) servants, so he will rise and kill him, and his death will be concealed for 40 days. When the riders go to seek the servant, the first of those who left will not return untill their kingdom is over.

Kamalul Deen P.655

This hadith explains the REASON for his death - if it's the same Abdullah.

He - like the people of Lut - is gay. Like his grandson (who was convicted in London for raping and murdering his male servant) - will abuse his servant, but this time, instead of the master killing the servant, the servant kills his master.

The death of the king will be concealed for 40 days.

It appears that the servant who kills Abdullah flees and runs away from the country. Some of the Saudis will go after him trying to find him and arrest/kill him. By the time the first of them comes back - the kingdom will be in turmoil.

CONCLUSION

As I mentioned earlier, this is NOT a definite sign. The first hadith cannot be found in it's reference. There is a difference of oppinion on the other ahadith, and whether or not they are the same king Abdullah of Saudi Arabia or someone else. IF all these ahadith are true, then:

- After king Fahad, king Abdullah will succeed

- Woe to the Muslims from him

- During his time, the Sufyani will wage wars and enter Iraq

- Abdullah has gay intercourse with his servant

- The servant kills him and flees the country

- The Saudis will run after him trying to catch him

- His death will be concealed for 40 days

- A man will give the news on the day of Arafat (40 days after his death?) and will be killed

- After the death of Abdullah, the kingdom will be in turmoil

- None will survive more than months or days on the throne - until it is taken by Imam Mahdi

- The relief - the appearance of Imam Mahdi - is very soon after the death of Abdullah

Source: http://hashemstudios-board.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=3151

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Saudi king 'losing mental ability'

Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:28PM

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Saudi Arabia's ailing monarch has reportedly experienced a major setback in his recovery process, showing signs of mental deterioration.

Citing Western intelligence sources, the US daily World Tribune said on Friday that the 86-year-old Abdullah Ibn Abdulaziz Al Saud was suffering from back and heart ailments as well as signs of dementia.

The king has been recovering from two operations in the United States in late 2010.

The news came after last Thursday's rumors about his death, which was only followed by an increase in the price of oil.

Saudi opposition sources announced that Abdullah has died on February 9 at his home in Morocco. Saudi Foreign Minister Saud Al Faisal, however, said on the following day that the monarch was in 'excellent shape.'

The intelligence sources said Abdullah's medical condition had deteriorated sharply over the last few days. "He has suffered a major medical setback," said one intelligence source, stressing that he was not in danger of imminent death.

King Abdullah tried to rally US support for former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak's continued stay in power despite a popular Revolution in Egypt, urging the removal of the 30-year-long Egyptian leader's regime.

There are unconfirmed reports that he began fitting while talking on the phone with US President Barack Obama regarding the fate of Mubarak, who is a close friend of King Abdullah.

"These efforts certainly didn't help his health and probably harmed recovery," the source said.

Mubarak handed power over to the Supreme Council of the Egyptian Armed Forces on Friday, giving in to 18 straight days of pro-democracy demonstrations.

After the victory of the Egyptian Revolution, similar demonstrations began in Arab countries including, Saudi Arabia's neighbors Yemen and Jordan.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/165111.html

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(salam)

Islam Time’s received this information from a reliable anonymous source that has asked not to be named and has reported that the royal family is working hard to keep this information secret due to the sensitive political circumstances amongst the royal family

Source: http://islamtimes.org/vdca6enm.49nyi1gtk4.html

We have received information that King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia is dead. He passed away yesterday apparently after a heated discussion with Obama related to Egypt. Abdullah was highly agitated and suffered a stroke. Saudi Arabian officials are of course rejecting the claim but have changed his status to "critical", apparently in an attempt to stage the political fallout.

Islam Times was the first to report this news and claims to have inside information from the Saudi royal family. Our own sources suggest the same. Other independent sources are also echoing these views. There are now also reports that an unusual amount of high level personages are visiting Abdullah's hotel in Morocco. These latter reports are from Jadidnet.com.

It appears that the impact of Egypt and Tunisia is snowballing in many ways yet unforeseen. Thus goes another puppet of America. May he not rest in peace.

Source: http://www.grandestrategy.com/2011/02/breaking-news-king-is-dead.html#disqus_thread

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Hmmmm.......there's definitely some story here. Maybe severe illness or actual death. I remain skeptical - given the obscurity of the sources - but i'll be following this pretty closely. Thanks for the links.

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(salam)

It is impossible to have a solar eclipse in the middle of the month or a lunar eclipse at the end of the month together, thus you can't calculate when it may happen. Hence it being a miracle. Also, I believe that the call from the sky will take place in the same month, same year.

As for the King's ill health, I wish not to will anyone bad health and I wish that he lives a good life in imaan, remember we must never will something bad to happen on anyone. So is health condition is irrelevant, that and the fact that hadiths hint that a particular Abdullah is likely to be assassinated....

(salam)

Are you sure about this? Because it has already happened according to wikipedia and a random Ramadhan calendar from google:

Start = Nov 28, 2000

Lunar = N/A - none

Solar = Dec 25, 2000 (partial)

Eid = Dec 27/28, 2000

Start = Nov 17, 2001

Lunar = N/A - none

Solar = Dec 14, 2001 (annular)

Eid = Dec 17, 2001

Start = Nov 6, 2002

Lunar = Nov 20, 2002 (penumbral)

Solar = Dec 4, 2002 (total)

Eid = Dec 6, 2002

Start = Oct 27, 2003

Lunar = Nov 9, 2003 (total)

Solar = Nov 23, 2003 (total)

Eid = Nov 25/26, 2003

Start = Oct 16, 2004

Solar = Oct 14, 2004 (partial)

Lunar = Oct 28, 2004 (total)

Eid = Nov 14, 2004

Start = Oct 5, 2005

Solar = N/A - Oct 3, 2005 (annular)

Lunar = Oct 17, 2005 (partial)

Eid = Nov 3/4, 2005

Start = Sept 23/4, 2006

Lunar = N/A - Sept 6, 2006 (partial)

Solar = N/A - Sept 22, 2006 (annular)

Eid = Oct 22, 2006

ps. I wonder what a salafi would be thinking reading this thread, lol...

Edited by Fuan

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(salam)

interesting thread. It sure made my pores raise..

Islam Times reported last week that King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia passed away in Morocco. This report incurred various responses. This report was widely spread throughout the media of the region and the international world. Some Saudi Arabian officials also reacted to it.

The first claim that this report was false was published by Reuters who narrated from a counselor of the Saudi family. This claim was weak and only confirmed the Islam Times report. The report of his death is so important that official members of the Saudi Arabian government would falsify it, not a family counselor.

It is interesting that the name of this counselor was also not published. This also hurts the authenticity of the claim. Then a few hours later, another claim which stated that this report was false was issued by the Saudi Arabian foreign minister. He reported that the King was in great health.

But, a few hours before this claim, Saud al-Faisal, cancelled his trip to Algeria and instead, without prior notice, entered Morocco. This shady trip also confirms the Islam Times report. Then, Reuters announced that the false claims of King Abdullah’s death have made the price of oil rise in the region.

In conclusion, Islam Times is certain of its report; the King is dead! But, the Saudi Arabian officials have decided, due to the conditions of the region and their own country, to delay the announcement of his death. Therefore, they are trying to issue reports about him being alive and in good health.

If they insist that his health is good they can present evidence of this. He can deliver a short speech or a video of him can be released. But, Islam Times still stands firm and supports its report. The King is dead!

http://www.islamtimes.org/vdcfc0dt.w6dtja7riw.html

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(Ahlul Bayt News Agency) - 86-year-old Saudi Arabia's king Abdullah Ibn Abdulaziz Al Saud suffers from back and heart ailments as well as signs of dementia.

Abdullah's medical condition had deteriorated sharply over the last few days. The situation came very appropriate for Saudi officials to start fights over the succession of the unfortunate ill king.

Moreover, the received news state that at the rise of these quarrels, The king seems to be absent from his palace, leaving the country into a huge anarchy.

No one seems to have any clue of the king's secret location. In the meantime, some even assume that the king has passed away.

http://abna.ir/data.asp?lang=3&id=226479

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Saudi king expected back after long sick leave abroad

* Analysts says king could announce reforms

RIYADH Feb 18 (Reuters) - Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah bin Abdul-Aziz will return home within days after undergoing medical treatment abroad for three months, a government official said on Friday as unrest hit Gulf Arab neighbour Bahrain.

Abdullah, who is around 87, left the top OPEC oil exporter on Nov. 22 to undergo surgery in New York after a blood clot complicated a slipped disc. He has been recuperating in Morocco for the past four weeks.

"We know he is coming some time next week," said a spokesman for the foreign ministry. In the capital Riyadh, workers were putting up flags and posters welcoming the king back home.

Analysts say Abdullah might announce some reforms to address dissent in the Gulf Arab state. Diplomats do not expect unrest like that in Egypt or Tunisia but the kingdom faces challenges such as high youth unemployment and a massive housing shortage.

The U.S. ally fears that unrest in Bahrain, where majority Shi'ites have been protesting against the Sunni-led government, might spread to its own Shi'ite community, a minority concentrated in the eastern oil-producing area.

Political stability in Saudi Arabia is of global concern because the kingdom controls more than a fifth of the world's oil reserves, and is a vital U.S. ally as well as a major holder of dollar assets and home to the biggest Arab bourse.

The king's medical troubles have aroused concern over whether a reformist like himself or a conservative will succeed him. Continued...

http://af.reuters.com/article/egyptNews/idAFLAE86782520110218

On another note, I cant seem to access the Islam Times website atm

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Argh, hes alive.

Words cannot describe the disappointment. Guess we'll have to wait for Day of Arafah.

Doesn't matter. The old bag's almost 90 years old and has severe health problems left and right.

Surgery after surgery won't fix that. This regional revolution will be sure to add to his stress that his small brain can handle. He'll kick the bucket soon.

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you guys should fear Allah and stop wishing anyone's death.if he is dead,then so be it.if he is not,then a day will come when everyone has to go.and whatever prophecies are there,they will be fulfilled sooner or later.but please,refrain from wishing bad for anyone.lets just discuss the news and events happening without wishing anyone ill.

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you guys should fear Allah and stop wishing anyone's death.if he is dead,then so be it.if he is not,then a day will come when everyone has to go.and whatever prophecies are there,they will be fulfilled sooner or later.but please,refrain from wishing bad for anyone.lets just discuss the news and events happening without wishing anyone ill.

Don't enforce your views on anyone. Even the Prophets used to ask for the curse of Allah to fall upon their enemies and the ones who fought them.

This munafiq is a present day Muawiya. I sure will wish it upon him.

Please don't imply we don't fear Allah swt. There is no one but Him, He is the ONLY one we fear.

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