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Thank you!

Also, my email is ahhj75@yahoo.com. Can you tell me the date of the double eclipse?

Muntazer – You can read the hadith in Kitab ul Irshad - in the last part about Imam Mahdi (A) - And it not any ordinary eclipse that normally occur.

Two eclipses occur in a month often that not any thing new

But eclipse of the sun only occurs at the end of the month WHILE eclipse of the moon occurs in the middle of the month.

The two eclipses predicted in the hadith above are different. i.e. eclipse of the sun will take place in the middle of the month While the eclipse of the moon will occur at the end of the month. (Both eclipses will have changed place)

This has never happened since Adam (A) set foot on the earth (i.e. in the history of the earth).

The way I read the above - The death of King Abdullah will start a power struggle - Normally A king rules for years - but after King abdullah the people who take power will only rule for a month or days before they are over thrown - The struggle will continue and there will be no peace in hejaz until Imam Mahdi comes onto the scene.

Advent of our Imam (A) is years away.

There will be three appearances in 'one year, one month and one day' before the advent of our imam --- the appearance of Sufyani, Khurashani and Al Yemini.

The is in kitab ul irshad.

My best bet is hold your breath until 2028 --- From this year (2011) until 2028 - we will see a lot --- Mass killing, nightly attacks, wars famine - corruption, new conflicts occurring every day, earning halal wealth will become impossible -- In short most evil of days lay ahead.

Edited by Ali Fazel

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^^ (salam)

Please dont give a precise date because Allah-il-alam only, no one can tell the date of imam mahdi's reappearance or the end

Also, after King Abdullah dies (as predicted by the imam), the people will have a difficult time trying to decide who would take power after him

Also, be reminded that this might not even be the right King Abdullah that the Imam talked about, there could be another one that pops up many years down the road..

Only god knows my friend!

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Islam Times Exclusive:

Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah passed away

Islam Times - Saudi King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz passed away today, according to Islam Times reporter.

Islam Times: King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia had left hospital in New York following back surgery in december 2010. His half-brother, Crown Prince Sultan, has been in charge in his absence.

But the 86-year-old king after long period of deseases, passed away today by heart attack.

As the power structure in non-democratic Saudi Arabia is based on the distribution of key posts among members of tribes close to the Al Saud royal family, King Abdullah's passing will trigger massive political chaos across the tribal nation.

Al-Shammar, Sudairy, Bani Khalid, Bani Tamim, Anza, and Al-Ajman tribes, respectively, share the most power in security, political, financial and military domains in Saudi Arabia.

The Sudairy tribe currently has the lion's share of power in religious, security and royal guard sectors. The Shammar tribe controls foreign policy and oil and the other tribes are powerful in financial and stock exchange matters.

Most Wahhabis in Saudi Arabia are from the Sudairy clan which has deep ideological differences with Shammar -- a tribe closer to the Shias.

King Abdullah's mother, Fahda, descended from the powerful Shammar tribe and was the daughter of former Shammar tribe chief, Asi Shuraim.

Former Saudi King Abdul Aziz was married to four women from Al Shammar, which is a great advantage for the tribe.

The power of a Saudi clan depends on how close it is to the king and the royal family. By the same token, the Shammar tribe has been the most powerful since 2005, when King Abdullah ascended to the throne.

The Sudairy tribe, which is a rival of Al Shamamr, is close to ailing Saudi Crown Prince Sultan bin Abdul Aziz. But those affiliated with the tribe fear the heir to the throne may die before coming to power.

Prince Sultan bin Abdul Aziz's mother, Hessa bint Ahmad Al Sudair, one of the influential wives of King Abdul Aziz and the mother of King Fahd and Princes Abd al-Rahman, Nayef, Turki, Salman, and Ahmed.

Former Saudi King Abdul Aziz had 32 wives from influential Saudi tribes who have given him seventy children.

The Sudairy clan cemented its pillars of power, particularly in religious centers such as those charged with promotion of virtue and prohibition of vice, after June 1982 when King Fahd, the fifth king of the Al Saud dynasty, assumed power.

Ever since, most key posts at the Ministry of Defense, Royal Guard Regiment, Saudi security apparatus, and major embassies have been assigned to those associated with the Sudairy clan.

Former Saudi King Fahd bin Abdul Aziz's death in August 2005 and his step-brother King Abdullah's rise to power prompted those affiliated with the Shammar tribe to take a giant leap toward capturing the power bases in Saudi Arabia.

In pre-Islam Arabia, a tribe's power and influence were measured based on the number of men as well as the number of relatives by marriage to members of other tribes.

Therefore, the Shammar and Sudairy tribes pride themselves on the fact that the former Saudi king has chosen most of his wives from these two clans.

Former Saudi Ambassador to Washington Prince Bandar bin Sultan's unexpected return to Riyadh and the sudden closure of universities across Saudi Arabia bears witness to King Abdullah's deteriorating health.

Prince Bandar, the head of the Supreme National Security Council until 2005, was the Saudi ambassador to the US for twenty-two years and one of the most influential figures in the Al Saud dynasty.

Prince Bandar, whose mother was an African slave serving the Saudi royal family, has a close relationship with the Republicans in the United States.

During the presidency of George Bush junior and George Bush senior, Bandar managed to convince the US Congress to supply Saudi Arabia with super-modern weapons.

In effect, Bandar and the Bush family are business partners in a joint oil drilling venture in Texas worth USD 500 million.

So Bandar could play a key role in distorting the investigation into the 9/11 incident despite the fact that 17 of the 18 terrorists behind the attacks were Saudi nationals.

Bandar is said to have invested heavily in the election campaigns of George W. Bush during his two terms in office and that is why George W. Bush feels indebted to the Saudi dynasty.

Shorty after the 9/11 incident, George W. Bush accused certain regional countries of training terrorists while refraining from revealing the identities and nationalities of the perpetrators of the attacks.

Given that the Saudi dynasty has well over six thousand members all of whom are assigned to key posts, the possible death of King Abdullah could result in a power struggle.

This comes as US authorities, who are prepared to hear the news of King Abdullah's death have conducted intensive consultations with King Abdul Aziz's descendants.

Numerous trips to Iraq by General David Petraeus, the former commander of US forces in the region, and Ryan Crocker, the former US ambassador to Riyadh, and their consultations with the members of the Saudi dynasty, shows Washington's misgivings over the possible death of the Saudi monarch.

In his several meetings with top Saudi generals, Petraeus discouraged them from launching a coup should the king die. In the meantime, Crocker stressed the need to name 77-year-old Prince Nayef, Second Deputy Prime Minister and former long time Interior Minister, as King Abdullah's successor.

Considering the fact that Saudi Foreign Minister Saud al-Faisal has contracted Parkinson's disease, and Bandar has lymphatic cancer, the White House would rather see Nayef, the number three man in the Al Saud royal family, take the reigns of power.

The reason why Americans prefer price Nayef as the king is that he had a key role in cracking down on al-Qaeda as former Saudi King Abdul Aziz's eleventh child.

So, given the tribal structure in the Al Saud regime and the clans' desire to share power, the political vacuum resulting from the possible deaths of the Saudi king and the crown prince could trigger a political tsunami which might ripple across the whole region.

The outbreak of tribal conflicts in Saudi Arabia may divide the country into eastern and western parts between Sudairy and Shammar tribes, a phenomenon which does not sound far-fetched given the situation in Saudi Arabia, widespread corruption among King Abdul Aziz's descendants and the growing gap between the people and the ruling elite, PressTV reported.

© Islam Times

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http://islamtimes.org/vdcezz8n.jh8ewik1bj.html

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its not true

its merely a hoax because there is no proof

but

Allah hu a3lam inshallah he is dead

many rumors other than that site i linked on my Fb profile mention his death . However, i dont have their sources.

But dont worry,if he's not dead,,he's gonna die soon,he's 87 years old with many health problems.

Inshallah we're the lucky generation

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I have talk to Maulana Ahmed Raza of Aligarh ( India ) and he said some more instance should match before Zuhoor of our Present Imam (as) :-

1. Another Iraq and Iran war in which Iran will become victorious

2. People having faith will prefer death on life.

3. Hard to stay on faith for longer time.

etc etc

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aljazeera tv (arabic) posted a breaking news today that the saudi foreign minister cancelled his visit to Algeria today for "personal reasons".

aljazeera may have heard of the news (call it rumor if you may) that the saudi king has passed away.

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Saudi king in excellent shape, foreign minister says

EmailPrint.. Reuters – File picture shows Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah in his plane before his arrival in Casablanca January … .By Souhail Karam Souhail Karam – 1 hr 3 mins ago

RABAT (Reuters) – Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah bin Abdul-Aziz is alive and in "excellent shape," the Saudi foreign minister said on Thursday after Rumors about the king's health triggered a spike in the price of oil.

Abdullah, around 87, has been resting in Morocco since January following a two-month stay in the United States where he underwent surgery twice after a blood clot complicated a slipped disc, state media have said.

"I'd like to reassure you about the health of the king. He is in excellent shape. He is undergoing therapy as you know. Doctors are suggesting a certain amount of therapy," Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal told a news conference.

"He is doing twice as much. They are suggesting a certain time for therapy. He is looking to cut it in half," he added.

The foreign minister, who is also the King's nephew, was speaking in Morocco, which he visited on Thursday after postponing a planned trip to Algeria.

"He (King Abdullah) is his usual self...and looking forward to going back to work and going back home," said Prince Saud.

An adviser to a senior member of the ruling family also said Rumors of the king's death were false. Two Gulf-based diplomats said they were unaware of changes to the king's health.

North Sea Brent crude oil futures for March had jumped to a high of $102.88 per barrel, their highest for a week on the Rumors about the health of the leader of the world's biggest oil exporter. Prices later slipped back to around $101.60 by 1410 GMT as traders discounted the Rumors.

SPOKE TO OBAMA

The cost of insuring exposure to Saudi Arabian sovereign obligations for five years also spiked by 19 basis points from the previous day's close.

The White House said U.S. President Barack Obama had spoken to Abdullah, a key U.S. ally, on Wednesday about the political situation in Egypt, where unrest threatens to bring down Egypt's longtime President Hosni Mubarak.

Saudi Arabia controls more than a fifth of the world's crude oil reserves. As home to Islam's holiest sites, as well as the birthplace of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, Saudi Arabia is also central to global efforts to fight Islamic militancy.

Riyadh has been keen to show its allies there will be no power vacuum as health problems affect its octogenarian rulers. Since the death of the state's founder King Abdul-Aziz in 1953, the country has been ruled only by his sons.

The king of Saudi Arabia, which is also a major holder of dollar assets, came to the throne in 2005 and is the sixth leader of the OPEC state, whose political stability is of global concern.

A frail Crown Prince Sultan, another son of Abdul-Aziz who also had been away for unspecified treatment for much of the past two years, has returned to run the kingdom in Abdullah's absence.

With both Abdullah and Sultan in their 80s, speculation has arisen that Interior Minister Prince Nayef, 76 and a conservative, could take over in the future.

(Reporting by Gulf bureaus)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110210/wl_nm/us_saudi_king_2

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Saudi king in excellent shape, foreign minister says

EmailPrint.. Reuters – File picture shows Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah in his plane before his arrival in Casablanca January … .By Souhail Karam Souhail Karam – 1 hr 3 mins ago

RABAT (Reuters) – Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah bin Abdul-Aziz is alive and in "excellent shape," the Saudi foreign minister said on Thursday after Rumors about the king's health triggered a spike in the price of oil.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110210/wl_nm/us_saudi_king_2

This is typical to be honest of what they'd do if he is dead...

I guess we'll have to wait and see actual video of him in public to really be sure.

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Well, either way, we should know the truth in a week or so. If he indeed is dead, they can only cover it up for so long. If not, we'll find out that as well soon enough.

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Is there a hadith that he is supposed to die on day of Arafah? I cant find it.

Anyway, the reason why Im unsure is because of the hadith:

"A fool from the Bani Abbas will be murdered secretly. The cause of his death shall be that he would have married an eunuch who will slay him when het gets an opportunity. The murder will remain unreported for forty days before it will be discovered, so the police will go out in search of this eunuch but they will not return before the downfall of their rule"

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^^

(salam)

My father has a book which he claims something similar to what you posted about his death being hidden (a hadith)

I believe he is dead indeed and we are close because i see on some arabic (iraqi) news sites that he is indeed dead and they are hiding the truth so that no protests or riots will occur.. allahu akbar alhamdillah inshallah we are all apart of his 313

Edited by Abbas0

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We need a more credible source than IslamTimes, with all due respect to them.

King Abdullah talked with Obama about the situation in Egypt over the phone yesterday. Obama and the King got into a heated debate about their opinions of what Hosni Mubarak should do. After the phone call sources stated that King Abdullah was furious and then suffered a sudden heart attack.

This sounds way too spectacular to be true.

Edited by Fiasco

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salaam alaikum

1) doesn't the hadeeth say that his gay partner will kill him? but the roumers are saying he got a heart attack.

2) secondly hajj has just finished and for the next arafah is a long time more than 40 days while the hadeeth says between the death and the publishing of the news of it is only 40 days

3)regarding the other hadeeth that says 3 or 4 abdullah leaders at once,,

is it 3 or 4 ? and can we count Ali Abdullah of yaman as one of them since his name is not exactly just abdullah but the compound Ali Abdullah?

4) I think the two eclipses happening in one ramadan took place a while back but not in the way described were it happens in a non conventional way.

salaam

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salaam alaikum

1) doesn't the hadeeth say that his gay partner will kill him? but the roumers are saying he got a heart attack.

2) secondly hajj has just finished and for the next arafah is a long time more than 40 days while the hadeeth says between the death and the publishing of the news of it is only 40 days

3)regarding the other hadeeth that says 3 or 4 abdullah leaders at once,,

is it 3 or 4 ? and can we count Ali Abdullah of yaman as one of them since his name is not exactly just abdullah but the compound Ali Abdullah?

4) I think the two eclipses happening in one ramadan took place a while back but not in the way described were it happens in a non conventional way.

salaam

(salam)

Can you bring the arafah hadith please?

Ofcourse they will say heart attack, they will cover it up.

I will not believe he is dead until I see a recent video of him

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I don't know what's true and what isnt... but I do believe that say if he really died then even than considering the current situation in middle east and the high probability of disagreement over sucessor, they will most likely keep the news a secret, and that's what the hadith says anyways...

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Salam Aleikum

Considering the recent events in Egypt it wouldnt surprise me if they are trying to hide his death in order to keep stability in the country... however the truth will always unveil itself.. Opressing regimes are bound to fail and collaps.. Allah (SWT) has made numerus examples in the quran mentioning this..

Insha'Allah the reappearence of are Imam is near

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(bismillah)

(salam)

Sura 70 Aya 5 to 7

ÝóÇÕúÈöÑú ÕóÈúÑðÇ ÌóãöíáðÇ {5}

[shakir 70:5] Therefore endure with a goodly patience.

Åöäøóåõãú íóÑóæúäóåõ ÈóÚöíÏðÇ {6}

[shakir 70:6] Surely they think it to be far off,

æóäóÑóÇåõ ÞóÑöíÈðÇ {7}

[shakir 70:7] And We see it nigh.

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(bismillah)

(salam)

Sura 70 Aya 5 to 7

فَاصْبِرْ صَبْرًا جَمِيلًا {5}

[shakir 70:5] Therefore endure with a goodly patience.

إِنَّهُمْ يَرَوْنَهُ بَعِيدًا {6}

[shakir 70:6] Surely they think it to be far off,

وَنَرَاهُ قَرِيبًا {7}

[shakir 70:7] And We see it nigh.

Dua Ahad indeed!

Also, see this news: http://www.jadidnet.com/%d8%a3%d9%86%d8%a8%d8%a7%d8%a1%d9%8c-%d8%b9%d9%86-%d9%88%d9%81%d8%a7%d8%a9%d9%90-%d9%85%d9%84%d9%83%d9%90-%d8%a7%d9%84%d8%b3%d8%b9%d9%88%d8%af%d9%8a%d8%a9-%d9%81%d9%8a-%d8%a7%d9%84%d9%85%d8%ba%d8%b1/

If indeed the Saudi king is dead this is what will most likely happen very soon!

Prince Bandahar will become the king for A SHORT TIME, the Obama will step up to the plate and take his place as the mahdi!

Kings of Saudi Arabia (1932-Present)

House of Saud

Name Date of birth King From King Until Date of death

1. FALLEN Abdul Aziz (Ibn Saud)

15 January 1876 22 September 1932 9 November 1953

2. FALLEN Saud

12 January 1902 9 November 1953 2 November 1964

(deposed) 23 February 1969

3. FALLEN Faisal

1904 2 November 1964 25 March 1975

(assassinated)

4. FALLEN Khalid

1912 25 March 1975 13 June 1982

5. FALLEN Fahd

16 March 1921 13 June 1982 1 August 2005

6. is! FALLEN?

The one who is! Abdullah

1 August 1924 1 August 2005 Present

7. Prince Bandahar to be for a short time? I wonder what will happen to him?

8. Barrack Hussein Obama, The BEAST!

First they take over the USA and now the whole earth!

And now comes the NWO and the new monetary system and islam all under the control of BHO!

We all best get prepared to meet Jesus Christ face to face! Christ is coming deal with sin NOW!

REVELATION 17

7 But the angel said to me, “Why did you marvel? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, which has the seven heads and the ten horns. 8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition. And those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.[c]

9 “Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. 10 There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. 11 The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition.

12 “The ten horns which you saw are ten kings who have received no kingdom as yet, but they receive authority for one hour as kings with the beast. 13 These are of one mind, and they will give their power and authority to the beast. 14 These will make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings; and those who are with Him are called, chosen, and faithful.”

15 Then he said to me, “The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues. 16 And the ten horns which you saw on[d] the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled. 18 And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”

Also odd: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.politics/browse_thread/thread/32eb2eca922428cd

We have until 22nd March....

Edited by Ya Baqiyatullah (aj)

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