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Saudi king names son natl. guard chief

Thu Nov 18, 2010 3:18AM

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Saudi Prince Miteb bin Abdullah

Saudi King Abdullah has appointed his son, Prince Miteb bin Abdullah, as both minister of state and commander of the National Guard.

King Abdullah also accepted the resignation of his brother Prince Badr bin Abdul Aziz as deputy head of the National Guard over health reasons.

Earlier the king had received a request from Prince Badr to relieve him from his post on health grounds, the Saudi Press Agency reported.

The National Guard -- a fully trained army of between 100,000 and 120,000 men -- operates in parallel, and as a palace-directed counter-balance, to the Saudi ground forces under the defense ministry. The monarch has been head of the National Guard since 1962.

The palace announcement suggests that Prince Miteb may be the likely replacement for aging King Abdullah.

Saudi and US officials say a large number of the 178 attack and transport helicopters included in a 30 to 60 billion dollar arms deal with the US announced in October are destined for the national guard.

Source: http://edition.presstv.ir/detail/151456.html

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Saudi King admitted to hospital

Fri Nov 19, 2010 5:49PM

Doctors have advised the 86-year-old monarch, who is widely believed to be in poor health, to rest more because of a slipped disc, the official SPA news agency said on Friday.

"The king felt more pain in his back, so further tests were carried out at the King Faisal Specialist Hospital in Riyadh," SPA reported.

"It appears he has a blood clot in addition to his slipped disc, which is pressuring the nerves so the medical team advised him to rest and monitor the situation."

Media speculation on the king's deteriorating health reignited on Wednesday, when the king resigned as head of the country's National Guard and transferred the influential post to his son Prince Mitab bin Abdullah, 57, in an apparent sign that the elderly monarch is beginning to lessen some of his duties.

King Abdullah has been head of the National Guard since 1962. He has also handed over his traditional supervisory duties for the annual hajj pilgrimage to his deputy prime minister Prince Nayef bin Abdulaziz al-Saud. The king's health problems come while Crown Prince Sultan bin Abdul Aziz, also in his 80s, has been abroad for much of the past two years as he sought health treatment for an unannounced illness widely believed to be cancer.

Prince Nayef, 76, Sultan's full brother and considered second in line to the throne, has also undergone unspecified treatment in the past year. Nayef has been interior minister for 35 years.

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Saudi King Abdullah leaves for the U.S. for medical treatment

JEDDAH (Reuters) – Saudi Arabia's aging King Abdullah flew to the United States for medical treatment on Monday, while a frail Crown Prince Sultan hurriedly returned from abroad to govern the world's largest oil exporter.

The kingdom is keen to show its allies in Washington and elsewhere there will be no power vacuum as health problems beset its octogenarian rulers, but the question of whether a reformist or a conservative will take over remains a matter of concern.

Abdullah, thought to be around 86 or 87, asked Crown Prince Sultan to fly home from Morocco to run the kingdom during his absence.

The king will be seeking treatment after a blood clot complicated a slipped spinal disc, the state news agency SPA said. It did not say when Abdullah would be back.

With both Abdullah and Sultan in their 80s, speculation arose that conservative Interior Minister Prince Nayef, at a relatively youthful 76, could take over running the affairs of state some time in the near future.

Diplomats say Sultan, who is also defense minister and has major health problems of his own, has been much less active during his convalescence in Morocco.

Abdullah appointed his half-brother Nayef second deputy prime minister in 2009 in a move that analysts say will secure the leadership in the event of serious health problems afflicting the king and crown prince and improve Nayef's chances of one day being king.

Diplomats in Riyadh say Western governments concerned about the fate of social and economic reforms promoted by Abdullah have reservations about the ascent of Nayef, seen as a religious and social traditionalist.

Nayef long denied that the September 11 attacks of 2001 were carried out by Saudis or al Qaeda, suggesting they were carried out by supporters of Israel. He is seen as close to the powerful and hardline Saudi clerical establishment blamed by Washington for encouraging an ideology that promotes bigotry and fanaticism.

GLOBAL CONCERN

King Abdullah, who came to power in 2005, is the sixth leader of Saudi Arabia, whose political stability is of regional and global concern. It controls more than a fifth of the world's crude oil reserves, is a vital U.S. ally in the region, a major holder of dollar assets and home to the biggest Arab bourse.

As home to Islam's holiest sites as well as birthplace of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, Saudi Arabia is key to global efforts to fight Islamic militancy.

Washington wants Riyadh to continue social and economic reforms promoted by Abdullah that were seen as crucial after a group composed of mainly Saudis carried out the September 11 attacks of 2001.

But confusion still swirls over the real state of health of both Abdullah and Sultan and what will happen to Abdullah's policies.

Diplomats say there has been uncertainty about Abdullah's health since he canceled a visit to France in July.

A series of official announcements over the past week on the king's health reflect a desire to reassure Washington that the ruling family's grasp of affairs remains firm in tense times.

The hasty return of Sultan from a three-month break in Morocco was more low-key than his return last year from treatment for unspecified health problems. Then the half-brother to Abdullah, only a few years his junior, was met with a Bedouin sword dance.

Saudi state television showed Sultan at Riyadh airport, where he was greeted by senior princes of the Saudi royal family, which may soon face the test of managing an orderly transfer of power. Abdullah was not present at the event.

The princes at the top of the hierarchy in the absolute monarchy are all in their 70s and 80s and the Al Saud family, in power since the kingdom was founded in 1932, will remain a gerontocracy unless it soon promotes younger princes.

While official media seek to present family unity, tensions remain between the senior princes over who will run the country and over securing positions for their sons in the future political architecture of the absolute monarchy.

Rulers have so far all been sons of founder Abdul-Aziz Ibn Saud and many of the country's 18 million people want to see power pass to a new generation.

(Writing by Andrew Hammond; Editing by Samia Nakhoul)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101122/ts_nm/us_saudi_2

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(salam)

Dude, Imam will only come, if we are prepared .... No abdullah, lunar or solar eclipse can predict the coming of Imam Al Mahdi. I think we should all focus on developing ourselves ( this includes me as well) rather than predicting the coming of Imam through solar and lunar Eclipse.

Peace

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(salam)

Dude, Imam will only come, if we are prepared .... No abdullah, lunar or solar eclipse can predict the coming of Imam Al Mahdi. I think we should all focus on developing ourselves ( this includes me as well) rather than predicting the coming of Imam through solar and lunar Eclipse.

Peace

Dear brother,

you can start by leading us and and preparing yourself and first of all by stoping to use words like "dude and dudette".

is that how you will adress your fellow mujahideen in the Imam's army?

Because some people are anticipating does not necessarily mean they are bad people or are not preparing.

besides,i dont wish King Abdullah bad nor do i wish him death no matter how good or bad he is.if he is a good man and someone with good intentions for islam and muslims,i sincerely pray for him and wish him long life and health.may Allah reward him for his efforts.afterall all of us will one day die.Allah knows best!

Edited by mehdi soldier

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the Prophet (pbuh) said: [A man named after an animal will rule over Al-Hijaz. He will seem to you from far as if he is squint-eyed but as you get close to him, you will find his sight is sound. His successor will be a brother of his called Abdullah. Woe unto our fellow Shi’a from him – he repeated it thrice – announce his death to me and I shall announce the Appearance of the Hujjat (the proof and authority of Allah) to you.]

And, there he was, Fahd , the king of Saudi Arabia named after an animal (cheetah) and who seems squint-eyed from afar whereas his eyes look perfectly normal when you get close to him. These features are not easy to find in one person and, indeed, Abdullah did rule after him. Therefore, the news of the death of Abdullah is the only thing in the story that has not come about yet. Hence, where is the forerunner of Imam Al-Mahdi (as), the proof and authority of Allah (Hujjatullah)? The narrations mentioned that he would appear almost six years before the advent of the Imam. Has anyone of you ever asked himself about that? No, you have not because you have let go of the Imam (as) and replaced him with Zayd, Omar and others… And you will not prepare yourselves to receive him, same as you have not prepared yourselves for meeting Allah. Instead, you managed to make this worldly life thrive but you ruined your life in the Hereafter. Guilt, narcissism, ego, avidity to gain despicable earthly positions and so on… have severely marked your faces… Yes, you have not had time to earnestly wait for the Imam (as) without fanatic and depraved emotional tendencies.

• As reported on the authority of Abu Baser, who said, I heard Abu Abdullah (as) say: [Whoever ensures me the death of Abdullah, I guarantee him the rise of Al-Qa’im. Then he added: if Abdullah dies and, after him, people do not agree on someone to succeed him, the situation would not end without the advent of your Imam (Al-Yamani), if Allah so wills. Thus the rule that lasted years vanishes and the rule of months and days follows. So, I said: does that period last? No, he answered.]

Indeed, we notice that the rule, which lasts for years, exists no longer thanks to Allah, and we are experiencing the rule of months and days, which every Iraqi is forced to witness. In fact, when it first assumed power, the Iraqi Governing Council changed its president every thirty days. Afterwards, the council agreed upon appointing a president who stayed in office for eight months!!! And so on…

This narration also contains a clear indication that we are living at the time of the main forerunner of Imam Al-Mahdi (as), who will appear a little while before the Imam (as) does, since Abdullah is the current ruler of Hijaz and he is old, and after him the rule will only go to Al-Qa’im.

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Hence, where is the forerunner of Imam Al-Mahdi (as), the proof and authority of Allah (Hujjatullah)? The narrations mentioned that he would appear almost six years before the advent of the Imam. Has anyone of you ever asked himself about that? No, you have not because you have let go of the Imam (as) and replaced him with Zayd, Omar and others…

This narration also contains a clear indication that we are living at the time of the main forerunner of Imam Al-Mahdi (as), who will appear a little while before the Imam (as) does, since Abdullah is the current ruler of Hijaz and he is old, and after him the rule will only go to Al-Qa’im.

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What do you mean by the forerunner of Imam Mahdi (as) ?

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ÇáÓáÇã Úáíßã

the Prophet (pbuh) said: [A man named after an animal will rule over Al-Hijaz. He will seem to you from far as if he is squint-eyed but as you get close to him, you will find his sight is sound. His successor will be a brother of his called Abdullah. Woe unto our fellow Shi’a from him – he repeated it thrice – announce his death to me and I shall announce the Appearance of the Hujjat (the proof and authority of Allah) to you.]

And, there he was, Fahd , the king of Saudi Arabia named after an animal (cheetah) and who seems squint-eyed from afar whereas his eyes look perfectly normal when you get close to him. These features are not easy to find in one person and, indeed, Abdullah did rule after him. Therefore, the news of the death of Abdullah is the only thing in the story that has not come about yet. Hence, where is the forerunner of Imam Al-Mahdi (as), the proof and authority of Allah (Hujjatullah)? The narrations mentioned that he would appear almost six years before the advent of the Imam. Has anyone of you ever asked himself about that? No, you have not because you have let go of the Imam (as) and replaced him with Zayd, Omar and others… And you will not prepare yourselves to receive him, same as you have not prepared yourselves for meeting Allah. Instead, you managed to make this worldly life thrive but you ruined your life in the Hereafter. Guilt, narcissism, ego, avidity to gain despicable earthly positions and so on… have severely marked your faces… Yes, you have not had time to earnestly wait for the Imam (as) without fanatic and depraved emotional tendencies.

• As reported on the authority of Abu Baser, who said, I heard Abu Abdullah (as) say: [Whoever ensures me the death of Abdullah, I guarantee him the rise of Al-Qa’im. Then he added: if Abdullah dies and, after him, people do not agree on someone to succeed him, the situation would not end without the advent of your Imam (Al-Yamani), if Allah so wills. Thus the rule that lasted years vanishes and the rule of months and days follows. So, I said: does that period last? No, he answered.]

Indeed, we notice that the rule, which lasts for years, exists no longer thanks to Allah, and we are experiencing the rule of months and days, which every Iraqi is forced to witness. In fact, when it first assumed power, the Iraqi Governing Council changed its president every thirty days. Afterwards, the council agreed upon appointing a president who stayed in office for eight months!!! And so on…

This narration also contains a clear indication that we are living at the time of the main forerunner of Imam Al-Mahdi (as), who will appear a little while before the Imam (as) does, since Abdullah is the current ruler of Hijaz and he is old, and after him the rule will only go to Al-Qa’im.

What is the source of these hadiths? What books? What pages?

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Better translations:

Imam Ja'far Al Sadiq narrated on the authority of his fathers that his grandfather Imam Ali ibn Abi Talib said "Whoever comes to me with the news of the death of King Abdullah, I guarantee for him the news of the emergence of the Qaim (Mahdi); for when Abdullah dies, the people will not agree upon a ruler after him and it will not end without the appearance of your friend (The Mahdi) if Allah wills. The king of the years will be gone and the king of the months and days comes. It will not be long after that the Mahdi appears."

It has been narrated by the Prophet of Allah (pbuhahf) "There shall rule the Hijaz a man who carries the name of an animal, if you see him from far you will notice his eyes are crossed and if you come close you do not see anything with his eye, after him his brother shall rule, a brother named Abdullah. Beware to my Shia (followers) from him, and he repeated this thrice: "Give me glad tidings of his (Abdullah's) death, I give you glad tidings of the appearance of the Mahdi."

- 250 signs until the appearance of the Mahdi, page 136-137

Imam Mohammed al-Baqir said: "The fool of Al folan (Saud) will die, the cause of his death is that he performs intercourse with a eunuch who shall slaughter him (king Abdullah), they will cover up his death for forty days, and when the riders go out looking for the eunuch, the first one to go seek the eunuch will not return until their kingdom and rule has gone away."

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I would warn Shias spreading these hadith everywhere as Imams have warned us to keep secrecy on issues that they have shared, this was also a reason for the delay in his reappearance, so please be careful with the information you do give out.

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Silent coup underway in Riyadh?

Arab experts have discussed the possibility of a silent coup in Saudi Arabia as the power struggle hikes in the kingdom after ailing King Abdullah's trip to the US.

A seminar recently held in Cairo focused on the political future of Saudi Arabia in the absence of King Abdullah's trip to the US for treatment and the prospects of his possible death.

The meeting, "The Future of Political Conflict among the Heirs in Saudi Arabia," attended by Arab experts and politicians, including Saudi academics and Egypt's al-Azhar scholars concluded that there was a fight over the throne among Al Saud heirs.

The conflict they said was being covertly fueled and steered by the US and Israel who see the oil-rich Arab kingdom an issue of mutual concern and consider it to be the primary strategic ally in the Middle East against the forces of resistance.

The experts noted that documents and information available indicate that the conflict is going in two directions: First among the sons of King Abdul Aziz and the second among his grandchildren.

In the first group are the remainder of the Al Sudairy Clan -- seven sons of King Ibn Saud and Princess Hassa bint Ahmad Al Sudairy -- most notably Defense Minister Prince Sultan, Riyadh's Governor Prince Salman and Interior Minister Prince Nayef, who is largely backed by hardline Wahhabis.

The second the experts said is among the grandchildren of Abdul Aziz ibn Saud, and most notably Khaled bin Sultan, who effectively runs the defense ministry and Mutaib bin Abdullah who is in charge of the Saudi National Guard.

Among the second group is Bandar bin Sultan, widely seen as closely tied with US intelligence services and his return to the kingdom after a one-year absence is not deemed much of a coincidence.

Given the old age and diminishing health of King Abdullah and his brothers, the conflict between Bandar and Mutaib is the only serious power struggle which might amount to war, the meeting concluded. They noted that Washington is seeking to arrange a peaceful power transition, although Bandar's rule would better serve its interests.

The participants in the seminar cautioned against changes in the Saudi government that might further reinforce Wahhabi extremists in the kingdom, bring closer cooperation between Riyadh and Washington and even lead to normalization of ties Tel Aviv.

They also demanded the independence of the holy Muslim sites from the dominance of the Al Saud royal family and Wahhabis, and called for the supervision of independent Muslim nations and scholars instead.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/153126.html

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Where can I find these narrations (which books)?

The latest news is saying the Saudi King is doing fine. Is this a lie? :unsure:

I know he has some sort of liver or kidney problems, last I heard. Doesn't matter if they say he's "fine". The guy's almost 90 years old, "fine" is a relative term lol.

The snake is bound to die soon, inshallah.

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Is there any prince named Abdullah that might be King in the immediate future? We might be looking at another King Abdullah. :unsure:

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Is there any prince named Abdullah that might be King in the immediate future? We might be looking at another King Abdullah. :unsure:

Not sure, but Abdullah ibn Abdul Aziz (the one today), is the only one with a brother "whose name is from an animal" as said by Rasulallah (saw), that being his brother Fahd (leopard).

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Not sure, but Abdullah ibn Abdul Aziz (the one today), is the only one with a brother "whose name is from an animal" as said by Rasulallah (saw), that being his brother Fahd (leopard).

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Yes, thank you for reminding about that hadith. It is probably impossible to have another King Abdullah with a brother whose name is from an animal. But I think there is a lot we don't know about this huge family. If you look at the family tree, some of the wives did not have sons (#4, 6, 8 and 9), or maybe did not have sons who survived into adulthood. The family tree shows the last son is from wife #10. So we don't know anything about any sons born from wives #11 - 22. None of those wives had sons?

Al Saud Family Tree:

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Click on the boxes at the link for more info about each person: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saud/tree/

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Saudi King to undergo another surgery

Fri Dec 3, 2010

Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah is due to undergo another surgical operation on his back to mend several vertebrae in his spine, a report says.

"King Abdullah...will undergo an operation on the afternoon of December 3 to stabilize some vertebrae in his spinal cord and complete the earlier surgery he underwent," Reuters quoted a statement by the kingdom's royal court as saying on Friday.

The statement did not say where the new surgery would take place, but there has been no official word of the king leaving the United States.

The king underwent surgery on his back in New York in November after a blood clot complicated a slipped spinal disc. The kingdom's health minister said that his health was "very reassuring" after the operation on the herniated disc.

King Abdullah's health conditions have raised the issue of succession in the Saudi kingdom. He has tasked his half-brother, Crown Prince Sultan bin Abdul-Aziz, with governing the country.

Sultan is also in his 80s and has been abroad for much of the past two years receiving treatment for what is believed to be cancer.

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NEW YORK: Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah is in good health, Minister of Health Dr. Abdullah Al-Rabeeah said in a statement to the Saudi Press Agency on Sunday.

“Pursuant to the statement of the Royal Court about the surgery the king underwent, I would like to reassure everyone that his health is sound and he has started a course of physiotherapy and rehabilitation as recommended by the doctors treating him,” Al-Rabeeah said.

Second Deputy Premier and Interior Minister Prince Naif said Saturday evening that King Abdullah is able to walk on his own and is in good health.

The king underwent successful surgery at New York Presbyterian Hospital last week to correct a slipped disc and blood clot following back pain.

Prince Naif made the statement while receiving Uzbekistan's National Security Chief Gen. Rustam Inayatov at his office in Riyadh.

"We in the Kingdom have a second festival of Eid because of the king's good health," the prince said. In the meeting, Prince Naif stressed the importance of cooperation between the two countries.

Inayatov hoped that cooperation between the two countries would be comprehensive covering all aspects of life and not confined to security efforts.

http://arabnews.com/saudiarabia/article202776.ece

He's recovering.

RIYADH: Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah had a successful second back surgery in New York on Friday morning, a Royal Court statement said.

The surgery was to “stabilize several vertebrae on the spinal cord to complement the previous surgery on Nov. 24, in line with the treatment plan recommended by the medical team.” The second stage of physical therapy for the king will now follow, the statement added.

The court statement also said that the king has issued a directive that reports on the state of his health should be made public with transparency.

The king flew to New York for medical treatment on Nov. 22 following a slipped disc and a blood clot pressing on the nerves in his back.

The first surgery at the New York Presbyterian Hospital extracted the clot and corrected the disc. Following the success of the operation, the king was in good health and walking in the hospital, Second Deputy Premier and Interior Minister Prince Naif said on Nov. 27.

On Nov. 28, Health Minister Dr. Abdullah Al-Rabeeah issued a statement about the king’s health, saying: “I would like to reassure everyone that his health is sound and he has started a course of physical therapy and rehabilitation as recommended by the doctors treating him.”

http://arabnews.com/saudiarabia/article207107.ece

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Edited by Basim Ali

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Saudi King's health status in doubt

Tue Dec 14, 2010

The health status of Saudi Arabia's King Abudullah remains questionable as no reports have been published on his recovery after he underwent a second surgery in a US hospital.

King Abdullah was hospitalized at New York City's Presbyterian Hospital on November 22 for a debilitating herniated disc, complicated by a hematoma that put pressure on his spine.

The kingdom's Health Minister Abdullah al-Rabeeah had pointed out that the state of the monarch's health was "very reassuring" following the first operation on his disc.

Earlier in the month, US surgeons performed another operation on King Abdullah's back, which was reported to have gone smoothly. The monarch has left his half-brother, Crown Prince Sultan bin Abdul-Aziz, suspected of suffering from cancer, at the helm. The prolonged recovery of the Saudi ruler has raised doubts about King Abdullah's succession.

It could also affect the replacement of the longstanding Saudi oil Minister Ali al-Naimi, who must first win the monarch's blessing.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/155374.html

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This is interesting. King Abdullah has not been heard from since his second surgery, but a Montreal newspaper says the king is interested to buy some real estate in Manhattan, New York! :!!!:

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Saudi+king+move+mosque+from+Ground+Zero/4004249/story.html

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This is interesting. King Abdullah has not been heard from since his second surgery, but a Montreal newspaper says the king is interested to buy some real estate in Manhattan, New York! :!!!:

http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Saudi+king+move+mosque+from+Ground+Zero/4004249/story.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZNLIRnvn1Y

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16. Death of King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia (we wish him long life) in 2015: The Shia believe that King Abdullah will be the last king of the House of Saud before the appearance of the Mahdi. Jaber Bolushi cites a Hadith attributed to Prophet Mohammad Õáì Çááå Úáíå æÓáã (the Shia claim this Hadith used to be reported in Musnad Ahmad, but was later removed) in which the Prophet mentions that the last man who will govern Al-Hijaz (the region that includes Mecca & Medina) before the Mahdi will be called Abdullah and he will be the successor of his brother who is named by the name of an animal. The previous king of Saudi Arabia was King Fahd (Fahd means leopard). It is worth noting that King Abdullah is currently 84 years old. After he dies, a dispute will occur among the royal family as to who should succeed him. There will be a strife and blood shed. Then, people will search for the Mahdi and offer him allegiance between Rukun and Maqam in the Haram Masjid in Mecca.

source:

http://www.discoveringislam.org/shia_signs.htm

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