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1987: Shias attack Kaaba

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In 1987, SHIAs (Iranis) attacked the Kaaba in Makkah. They went there to conquer Kaaba and to fall it. But by the grace of Allah and Duuas of all Muslim Hujjaj Karam (Hajis), the Saudi Arabian Security Forces kicked them away. About 405 poeple were killed on the spot out of them 50 were Hujjaj came from all over the world. There was a huge crowd of the SHIAs (Iranis). The LIVE pictures were taken at the spot. See what the SHIAs did at the time of Hajj. See the LIVE Movie provided by the Saudi Government.

Online:

http://www.[Edited Out]/realaudio/Shia-Kaaba-Movie.ram

Download:

http://www.[Edited Out]/realaudio/Video/Shia-Kaaba-Movie.rm

I would like to see what shias have to say about this incident, and how do they explain an attempt to conquer Kaaba.

PS. this video is in Urdu

Edited by mulla411

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In 1987, SHIAs (Iranis) attacked the Kaaba in Makkah. They went there to conquer Kaaba and to fall it. But by the grace of Allah and Duuas of all Muslim Hujjaj Karam (Hajis), the Saudi Arabian Security Forces kicked them away. About 405 poeple were killed on the spot out of them 50 were Hujjaj came from all over the world. There was a huge crowd of the SHIAs (Iranis). The LIVE pictures were taken at the spot. See what the SHIAs did at the time of Hajj. See the LIVE Movie provided by the Saudi Government.  

Online:

<a href='http://www.[Edited Out]/realaudio/Shia-Kaaba-Movie.ram' target='_blank'>http://www.[Edited Out]/realaudio/Shia-Kaaba-Movie.ram</a>

Download:

<a href='http://www.[Edited Out]/realaudio/Video/Shia-Kaaba-Movie.rm' target='_blank'>http://www.[Edited Out]/realaudio/Video/Shia-Kaaba-Movie.rm</a>

I would like to see what shias have to say about this incident, and how do they explain an attempt to conquer Kaaba.

PS. this video is in Urdu

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(bismillah)

the shia in these vedios r not attacking the ka'baa take a closer look they r attacking the wahabi police fource who have been killin and hurting the shia pilgrims

Edited by umm_alawi

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It was actually an anti-US demonstration - not an "attempt to conquer the Kaaba". Perhaps you could do some actual reseach on the event - instead of just accepting Wahabbi propaganda.

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In 1987, SHIAs (Iranis) attacked the Kaaba in Makkah. They went there to conquer Kaaba and to fall it. But by the grace of Allah and Duuas of all Muslim Hujjaj Karam (Hajis), the Saudi Arabian Security Forces kicked them away. About 405 poeple were killed on the spot out of them 50 were Hujjaj came from all over the world. There was a huge crowd of the SHIAs (Iranis). The LIVE pictures were taken at the spot. See what the SHIAs did at the time of Hajj. See the LIVE Movie provided by the Saudi Government

Online:

<a href='http://www.[Edited Out]/realaudio/Shia-Kaaba-Movie.ram' target='_blank'>http://www.[Edited Out]/realaudio/Shia-Kaaba-Movie.ram</a>

Download:

<a href='http://www.[Edited Out]/realaudio/Video/Shia-Kaaba-Movie.rm' target='_blank'>http://www.[Edited Out]/realaudio/Video/Shia-Kaaba-Movie.rm</a>

I would like to see what shias have to say about this incident, and how do they explain an attempt to conquer Kaaba.

PS. this video is in Urdu

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Are u not aware that the Saudi gorvenment is a true enemy os Shisim and do u not know that they have been killing Shias all over the world? The Saudis facts are never correct, and they only want to turn people against Shias

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(bismillah)

(salam)

Iranian , so called pillgrimes, had posters and flyers they brought with them including plastic explosives [ caught at customs] from

Iran planning to protest against Saudi custodianship of the Harmains.

and wanted to have shiite rules/facilities applied. Protest got violent and very emmotional at which point it had to be supressed and security was implied. one thing led to the other and 300 + died.

:naooz: Allah does not require muslims to praising him like this,,,I'm sure of it.

Imagin attributing a crime and wrong doing to Allah swt and then stamping it with Allah-o-akbar.

Allah swt knows all,,,

if iranian so called pilgrims had not staged a roit for no reasom the saudis would not have opened fired...if i was in the position of the saudi cheif of police i too would order the same thing or may be even more fiercer responce.. no one has the right to disturb the hajj....you play with fire you get your hands burned...

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Actually, if you have been to Makkah, you would see that the shias are trying to tresspass violently to the Haram, and they are attacking the force which is stopping them. If the forces wouldve been killing shias innocently then they had a clear oppurtunity to kill the trespassers easily, but you can see they are resisting.

Also, if you watch the full video, you will see how the shias increased within years before this attempt, and the C4 found at the airport from shia passengers was also in news, both happened in the same time.

Protest against America? in 1987, when there was no American force in saudi Arabia? Iranis protesting in Saudi Arabia for America? And carrying Khomenei Banners? -- Very smart.

And if the shias were not welcomed in Makkah, then they wouldve sent them back to iran from the airport and the shia immigrants wouldnt have increased in such a short time.

(salam)

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why would shias attack the house of Allah, where mola ali was born... lol

So they can overthrow those they hate the most(Sunnis) and takeover kaaba to worship it as a place for birth of Ali instead of Allahs house.

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So they can overthrow those they hate the most(Sunnis) and takeover kaaba to worship it as a place for birth of Ali instead of Allahs house.

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okayyyyyyyy but can u plz post the movie???

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So they can overthrow those they hate the most(Sunnis) and takeover kaaba to worship it as a place for birth of Ali instead of Allahs house.

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wait so u r saying that Shias like Imam Ali (as) better than Allah?

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wait so u r saying that Shias like Imam Ali better than Allah?

If one person keeps on sayin "Ya Ali Madad" instead of "Ya Allah Madad", and keeps on talking about the greatness of Ali and his sayings instead of Allah, then what do you expect?

Now, that is a different theory that they dont agree to it.

And YES, there are shias in this world who think of Ali (ra) as God and keep on compariing him with Allah.

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Every sunni who protects his religion from alteration is known as wahabi to shias.

Every sunni who deeply respects Prophets (pbuh) companions is known as wahabi to shias.

Every sunni who protects the house of Allah is known as wahabi to shias.

Edited by sahabalove

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am I gonna have to lock this up guys, or is the anti-shia propaganda threads gonna cease? Why is it you guys come with these ridiculous claims from some anti-shia site, as if it's really supposed to have some other purpose than fitna? Justify it, rectify it, or....

Edited by Aliya

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Every sunni who protects his religion from alteration is known as wahabi to shias.

Every sunni who deeply respects Prophets (pbuh) companions is known as wahabi to shias.

Every sunni who protects the house of Allah is known as wahabi to shias.

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real sunnis wldnt destroy the qabr of the prophets daughter :unsure:

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am I gonna have to lock this up guys, or is the anti-shia propaganda threads gonna cease? Why is it you guys come with these ridiculous "movies" from some anti-shia site, as if it's really supposed to have some other purpose than fitna? Justify it, rectify it, or....

True incidents. Freedom of speech. You curse Umor . Sunnis show true facts .

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am I gonna have to lock this up guys, or is the anti-shia propaganda threads gonna cease? Why is it you guys come with these ridiculous claims from some anti-shia site, as if it's really supposed to have some other purpose than fitna? Justify it, rectify it, or....

its an anti-shia propaganda just because it shows shias violently trespassing towards Al-Haram, were found with C4 and non-shias are stopping them?

There are several Sunnis who can prove every single shia wrong on this site, but they will only prevail only when injustified banning would stop.

Edited by sahabalove

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Every sunni who protects his religion from alteration is known as wahabi to shias.

Every sunni who deeply respects Prophets (pbuh) companions is known as wahabi to shias.

Every sunni who protects the house of Allah is known as wahabi to shias.

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A shia's defination of whabbi, is that if he/she respects Mauwayiah (la) or Abu Sufyan (la) or their descendents. If he/she sends curses to the Prophet (pbuh) or his progeny (as), or etc.

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True incidents. Freedom of speech. You curse Umor . Sunnis show true facts .

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news flash : no offense but in this site, the rules of America do not apply

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newsflash, here's the RULES of the forum I'm really focusing on here:

2a) Disrespect to any Mujtahid, Marja' Taqleed, or religious authority will not be tolerated whatsoever.

2b) Due to previous experience in this site with respect to the above rule, any topics which the moderators agree on to be of controversial nature and would lead to destructive debates and disunity amongst the Ummah will NOT be allowed on this forum. Members who do not abide by this rule would have their post locked/deleted followed by a warning/ban if they do not comply. Members are encouraged to discuss this in private (email or PM) as an alternative to avoid personal attacks and disunity on the site. The Shiachat.com team does however reserve the right to keep such threads open granted that it is put under heavy moderation and all parties engaged in the debate maintain a certain level of respect and maturity.

So here I am, offering HEAVY moderation to MINIMIZE the fitna...

Edited by Aliya

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A shia's defination of whabbi, is that if he/she respects Mauwayiah (la) or Abu Sufyan (la) or their descendents. If he/she sends curses to the Prophet  or his progeny , or etc.

We respect Muawiya (edit) not because he is Muawiya or father of Yazid, but because he was the companion of Prophet (pbuh).

Do you know he was among the first who transcipted the Holy Quran into writings?

Also, you should know that the sunnis take Ali (ra) on the right side in battle with Muaqiya (edit).

(salam)

[mod note: praising of Muawiya is not allowed under the forum rules]

Edited by Aliya

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