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Just like to ask the appropriateness and/or etiquette of performing qunoot, as to what is the best recommendation act:

1) Is it as follows:

... after reciting the sura in the 2nd rakat, say allahuakbar, raise both hands high up, palms meeting together, fingers spread out, then say salawat, then ... say something like "robbana aatina fiddunya hasanah wafil akhirati hasanatan waqina ad'za bannnar" ... then say salawat, wipe the face, say allahuakbar, then perform ruku .... ?

2) What if I do the abv minus the salawat, is it appropriate?

3) What if after the 2nd sura, my hands still by my side, I just recite "robbana aatina fiddunya hasanah wafil akhirati hasanatan waqina ad'za bannnar" then say allahuakbar then go ruku?

4) BTW, what does "qunoot" mean, translated from Arabic?

5) In shia congregational prayers, how are qunoot performed by prayer leader and follower, what's the practice like?

TKS

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^ Salaam.

1. Actually wipping the face is not seen everywhere. Some wipe the face but most I've seen don't wipe the face at the ending of the qunut.

And yeah the process is right I think.

2. EDIT: A Hadith of the 6th Imam (a) says: Whoever has a wish he wants Allah to fulfill, let him begin with blessings on Muhammad and his family, then let him ask his wish, and end by sending blessings on Muhammad and his family. Allah is nobler than to accept the first and the last (the blessings) and reject the middle.

(Salawat is a dua for the Holy Prophet (s) and his family. Whoever includes that dua is assured of the acceptance of his dua for himself.)

So u MUST say salawaat at least in the qunut. :)

3. The Qunut in salat needs raising hands. Though it is a mustahab thing, it still has got some methods. :)

and as for Q. 4 n 5... i hope some others will answer you. :)

Fee Amanillah.

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2. There is a clear hadith that if there is no salawaat ... the duas do NOT reach to Allah. So u MUST say salawaat at least in the qunut. :)

Where could I find that hadith.

What I have learned and think is best that you truly say salawaat in the beginning and ending your duas.

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so that means that after the second Surah in the second Rakah, I cna say AllahuAkbar and go directly into Ruku?

yeah u can.

I heard that Qunut is very liked by Allah and its the second nearest position to Allah. The first nearest is the sijdah. :)

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Just like to ask the appropriateness and/or etiquette of performing qunoot, as to what is the best recommendation act:

1) Is it as follows:

... after reciting the sura in the 2nd rakat, say allahuakbar, raise both hands high up, palms meeting together, fingers spread out, then say salawat, then ... say something like "robbana aatina fiddunya hasanah wafil akhirati hasanatan waqina ad'za bannnar" ... then say salawat, wipe the face, say allahuakbar, then perform ruku .... ?

2) What if I do the abv minus the salawat, is it appropriate?

3) What if after the 2nd sura, my hands still by my side, I just recite "robbana aatina fiddunya hasanah wafil akhirati hasanatan waqina ad'za bannnar" then say allahuakbar then go ruku?

4) BTW, what does "qunoot" mean, translated from Arabic?

5) In shia congregational prayers, how are qunoot performed by prayer leader and follower, what's the practice like?

TKS

1)in addition to wat u mentioned keeping the hands in front of one’s face, turning the palms facing the sky, and keeping both the hands and fingers close together.i used to wipe my face after qunoot & then i sent qs. about this wiping to different ayatollahs & no one said that its sunnat infact ayatollah khameni said that its makrook to do that so now i dont do it ( GOD KNOWS THE BEST) .

2)its better to do salwat before & after qunoot but u can do it without salwat. its not necessay . u can also say only subhanallah in qunoot too

3)raising hand in qunoot is not necessary & u cann keep ur hand to ur sides

4)donno

5)i donno wat u specifically wants to know . u have to read ur own qunoot even if u r in congregation. u can repeat wat imam is saying or u can read ur own qunoot ( in low voice obviously) . keep it in mind that reading of qunoot by the imam is not sufficient for u & u have to read ur own qunoot. but if u decide to not to read qunoot than u r going to loose all the rewards of qunoot but ur prayers will b in order( exception is eid prayers as it is necessary to read qunoot in eid prayers so if u r not reading qunoot in eid prayers than ur eid prayer is void)

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nadeali67 said:

5)i donno wat u specifically wants to know . u have to read ur own qunoot even if u r in congregation. u can repeat wat imam is saying or u can read ur own qunoot ( in low voice obviously) . keep it in mind that reading of qunoot by the imam is not sufficient for u & u have to read ur own qunoot. but if u decide to not to read qunoot than u r going to loose all the rewards of qunoot but ur prayers will b in order( exception is eid prayers as it is necessary to read qunoot in eid prayers so if u r not reading qunoot in eid prayers than ur eid prayer is void)

Can you bring sources please? about 5)

salam

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Where could I find that hadith.

What I have learned and think is best that you truly say salawaat in the beginning and ending your duas.

salam.

I cant find the source.. but I heard it.

So I am gonna edit my post with the hadith that I found.

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5 hours ago, Mohsin Bokhari said:

I have a question related to this topic. Can the qunoot be recited in any language. I know this discussion took place literally 10 years ago but please reply 

If you read in Arabic from the words of the Holy Qur'an or from duas of Ahlul Bayt AS in your Qunoot, then your dua would be worthy. However, since Qunoot is mustahhab, not wajib, you can make any dua in any language. May Allah accept your dua. 

See this topic for more information:

http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235049997-salat/?sortby=date

 

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:salam:

I’m finding it hard to understand why the Shia school of thought have ‘optional’ acts within prayer (such as the Qunoot) and not just a strict set of how it should be performed like other madhabs? Where does the idea of Qunoot being performed comes from?  

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3 hours ago, seekingthebeloved said:

:salam:

I’m finding it hard to understand why the Shia school of thought have ‘optional’ acts within prayer (such as the Qunoot) and not just a strict set of how it should be performed like other madhabs? Where does the idea of Qunoot being performed comes from?  

I do not get what you are saying. Are you suggesting that there should be no mustahab acts in the salat and only obligatory acts?

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3 hours ago, seekingthebeloved said:

:salam:

I’m finding it hard to understand why the Shia school of thought have ‘optional’ acts within prayer (such as the Qunoot) and not just a strict set of how it should be performed like other madhabs? Where does the idea of Qunoot being performed comes from?  

Actually the concept of recommended and obligatory acts of salah and wudhu is common across all schools. Not sure where you got the idea that it is unique to the shia?

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2 hours ago, Muhammad Al-Hurr said:

I do not get what you are saying. Are you suggesting that there should be no mustahab acts in the salat and only obligatory acts?

I’m not suggesting anything, I’m just trying to understand and satisfy my own aql. Do Sunnis have mustahab acts in their salah? 

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2 hours ago, Mahdavist said:

Actually the concept of recommended and obligatory acts of salah and wudhu is common across all schools. Not sure where you got the idea that it is unique to the shia?

It was an assumption as I wasn’t aware of it being common across major schools of thought. Can you provide any examples please?

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30 minutes ago, seekingthebeloved said:

It was an assumption as I wasn’t aware of it being common across major schools of thought. Can you provide any examples please?

Examples include placing the hands by the ears during the pronunciation of the takbeer,  reciting a complete surah after surah al fatiha, placement of the hands at different parts of the prayer, additional dhikr during rukoo or sujood etc

If you google recommended acts of prayer you will come across more examples. 

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On 5/6/2021 at 8:15 PM, seekingthebeloved said:

It was an assumption as I wasn’t aware of it being common across major schools of thought. Can you provide any examples please?

:salam:

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Permissibility of Performing Qunut in the Views of Sunnis

Sunni muslims disagree about the permissibility of qunut. Hanafis and Hanbalis consider it an impermissible innovation in prayers other than Watr prayer; but, Shafi'is and Malikis consider it recommended both in Watr and Fajr prayers.

https://en.wikishia.net/view/Qunut#Permissibility_of_Performing_Qunut_in_the_Views_of_Sunnis

 

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This is written by a Sunni brother about Qunoot:

Qunoot:

Qunoot is an established practice of the prophet, and is accepted as such by all 4 Sunni schools. According to Malikis it is performed in the Fajr prayer before rukoo`. Hanafis have it in the witr prayer before rukoo`.

Shafi`is have it in the fajr prayer after rukoo`, and in the witr prayer in the last half of ramadhan. Many sunni scholars have seen it as recommended to perform qunoot in times of trouble and affliction (nawaazil), especially in the fajr prayer, and also in the maghrib and eshaa prayer.

According to the shafi`ee school it shoould be done in every prayer under such circumstances. It was reported that ABu Hurayra used to perfrom Qunoot even in the Afternoon prayer, and there was no mention of affliction.

Ibn Abbas performed it before rukoo` in the fajr prayer. Abdullah ibn Mas`ood performed it before rukoo` in the 3rd rak`ah of witr.

I do not ‘belong’ to any school of thought as such - I I belong to the Ummah of Islam. However, as far as practicing particulars, I follow for the most part the fiqh of Abdullah ibn Mas`ood and the other jurists who later moved to Kufa, notable among them being Imam Abu

Haneefah (incidentally a student of Imam Ja`far al-Sadiq), Imam Muhammad ibn allHasan al-Shaybaanee, and Imam Abu Yusuf al-Ansaree.

Wassalam

https://www.al-islam.org/shiite-encyclopedia/prayer-salat-according-five-islamic-schools-law-part-2

 

Du'aa al-qunoot (Maliki) P 32-33

https://www.slideshare.net/yousefalkhattab1/maliki-salat

 

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