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On 10/9/2023 at 5:34 PM, Abu Nur said:

Don't be surprised in coming days how Us, Israel and Britain is trying to use this event to justify and demand attack on Iran.

It's not impossible but I doubt it. 

Anthony Blinkin, the US Secretary of State said last Sunday that Iran was not directly involved in the attack. This was an attempt by the Biden Admin to 'pump the brakes' on talk of an Iran attack. After that, Hamas basically said the same thing. So what that means in 'Politic speak' is that 'We are not  going to do the Iran attack thing. At least not for now'. They will never say definitively one way or the other but that is what it basically means. 

This is because in the US Senate there are some very influential Senators (like Graham) who might have started to call for an Iran war. Graham is a Zionist hand puppet and gets most of his campaign funding from them so of course he would do this. Not all the Senators are 'hand puppets' but they are all susceptible to pressure from the Zionist Entity since they all receive lots of $$$ from them and without alot of $$$ it's impossible to become a Senator or Congressperson in the US. This is an obvious fact which most people should take into consideration when listening to their rhetoric. Some of it is real, some of it is just a performance for their donors. Sometimes it's hard to tell these apart. 

I don't think Biden himself or the State Dept or the Military is 'on board' with an Iran attack. That is what I got from this statement. Again, I am not saying it's impossible but unlikely at this point. Also, the US just lost a war with the Taliban and they don't want another military embarrassment, which an attack on Iran would definitely be, and embarrassment is the best case scenario. 

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On 10/12/2023 at 10:17 PM, kadhim said:

Agreed, but obvious question:

Does Hamas even recognize a two-state solution as an option? 

Salam all of Palestinian resistance groups even Hamas for a period of time have participated in negotiation for it which fake state of Israel after Oslo agreement has given too smal share of cake to Fatah (PA) & small amount of left over to Hamas & other groups but now fake state of Israel has violated all conditions of  Oslo agreement because it wants whole of cake just for itself which only allows forming  an in exile state for Palestinians in another Arabic country after forced exile of all Palestinians to another Arab countries which now they have accused Hamas in killing two state solution in propaganda orchestra  although Hamas just nailed last nail on coffin of two state solution that has been killed by fake state of Israel by moving embassy of America to jerusalem by trump. 

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3 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

 

GAZA (Web Desk) - A Palestinian journalist was killed in bombardment by the Israeli forces while recording a video at his home.

In the video, Muhammad Shahab could be seen narrating the atrocities of Israel in Gaza.

“This might be my last video. This is my message for the world. We have been cut off from food, electricity and water,” the journalist said in the video which became his last video.

“We can’t leave our house. They are killing us from the inside and outside,” Shahab said, amid huge bombardment by the Israeli forces.

“We don’t want you to move because of us or Palestine only. We need you to move because of the violence. They are targeting the Al-Aqsa mosque. There is no difference between the Kaaba and Aqsa mosque. What are you waiting for? We don’t want you to support us with food and money. We want you to move. Please move, Please move,” Shahab said and the video ended as a rocket was fired at his house.

The video went viral on social media in which Shahab was urging the world to stand up against the brutality of Israeli forces.

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Palestinian journalist killed in bombardment as he shoots his last video

https://dunyanews.tv/en/World/762656-Palestinian-journalist-killed-in-bombardment-as-he-shoots-his-last-video

Opinion: I am a Palestinian journalist from Gaza. I fear a media blackout of the war

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2023-10-11/israel-palestine-gaza-bombing-journalists-civilians

At Least 11 Journalists Killed in War

Nine Palestinians, one Lebanese and one Israeli have been confirmed dead this week, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/13/business/media/journalists-killed-gaza-israel-war.html

Exclusive: Palestinian journalists narrate horror scenes as Israel bombards Gaza

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By Hiba Morad

Surrounded by debris of buildings destroyed in the Israeli regime’s shelling in the besieged Gaza Strip, Palestinian journalist Maha Shahwan said she and other Gazans might be killed any time but they stand firmly behind the resistance movement fighting the apartheid regime.

 

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Press TV website spoke to several Palestinian journalists and activists in the besieged strip, who described the horror they are living and their unwavering determination to back the resistance.

“We are expecting death any moment amid the Israeli savageness and indiscriminate bombardment, our loved ones, family members, and friends are being killed here and there across Gaza,” said Shahwan.

“But the Israeli regime and its supporters must know that we are willing to give up everything, even our lives for the sake of Al-Aqsa Mosque and the cause of Palestine.”

 

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Mohammad Atallah, a Gaza-based journalist, echoed the same sentiment in a conversation with the Press TV website, saying desecration of the Al-Aqsa Mosque is unacceptable to Palestinians.

“This is something Israelis probably do not understand. Palestinians consider Al-Aqsa mosque as part of their sanctities, and sanctities are part of their belief and creeds,” he emphasized.

“This is not something we will ever be willing to give up on and this is what makes all Palestinians stand behind the resistance and support it unconditionally.”

Less than five minutes of sleep

On the situation inside the Gaza Strip amid the Israeli bombardment, Shahwan said the ear-splitting sound of shelling has kept them awake all these days and nights, but they aren’t afraid.

“I can tell you that we are able to sleep no longer than five minutes and the sound of explosions that take place literally in every street and every alley across the strip are keeping us awake,” she said.

“Internet connection is very weak and limited, electricity cuts reach up to 21 hours per day, so we only have power for 3 hours and scarce water supply,” she said with the sound of explosions in the background.

“So you see you can also hear the explosions as we speak, this is how it has been here,” she added, as the sound of explosions hitting residential buildings got louder.

 

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We are proud of the resistance and its operations against the Israeli occupying forces. It is true that the Palestinian resistance always surprises us with new moves, but this was unexpected,” she said in a detailed conversation with the Press TV website.

 

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Speaking to the Press TV website, the editor of Quds News Network Youssef Abu Watfa pointed out differences in ethics at war that the Palestinian resistance and Israeli occupation army show.

“While Palestinian resistance fighters refuse to harm Israeli children and women, Israel has been randomly targeting houses, mosques, schools, residential and administrative towers, residential compounds and infrastructure, with videos showing children and babies killed in Israeli strikes,” she said.

“This is the difference between Muslim Palestinians and Zionist Israelis. We keep our ethics at war because our background is Islam; a religion of humanity and mercy.”

Hospitals in the besieged strip are packed with injured Palestinians and bodies of martyrs.

“A friend of mine, who is a surgeon at al-Shifaa Hospital, told me that last night more than 250 injured Palestinians arrived at the hospital at once and that ambulances are also targeted by Israeli warplanes,” Mohammad told the Press TV website.

https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2023/10/11/712533/Exclusive-Palestinians-Journalists-Narrate-Horror-Scenes-Israel-Bombards-Gaza

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1 minute ago, Haji 2003 said:

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I hate this woman, just now I saw her Instagram account, she is supporting only israteez even European people are calling her out, what a hypocrite cheap woman. 

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New refugees

Neighbouring states are very unkeen to take refugees because they'll be forever locked out of Palestine.

 

But...

 

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In a sign that Egypt is making preparations to receive some refugees, the northern Sinai governor, Gen Mohamed Abdel-Fadil Shousha, lifted a state of emergency that had been in place for years in light of security tensions between the army and Islamist groups in the region.

 

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The Jordanian foreign minister, Ayman Safadi, also insisted during a press conference on Saturday that Palestinians would not be allowed to flee into the country.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/15/egypt-moves-troops-to-gaza-border-amid-fears-of-expulsion-of-palestinians

 

That seals it.

The Gazans will end up in Egypt and Jordan. And if some are left in Gaza, in due course, they'll be evicted following another little war.

No doubt, the Saudis and Qataris will pay for the refugee camps.

This leaves the Palestinians in the West Bank. 

The question is whether the new status quo will be of the sort that enables the Saudis and Israelis to move on with normalisation. Perhaps the few billion Saudi pays the refugees will be considered adequate compensation?

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13 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

Perhaps the few billion Saudi pays the refugees will be considered adequate compensation?

Salam paying billions compensation for such useless things by KSa  is not a strange matter which it has wasted billions for war with Yemen which until now has not a significant achievement for KSA because KSA has wasted billions for war with Yemen & struggle with Iran & spreading Wahabism & supporting Daesh based on received orders from it's masters from America & zionist lobby in the USA . 

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2 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam paying billions compensation for such useless things by KSa  is not a strange matter which it has wasted billions for war with Yemen which until now has not a significant achievement for KSA because KSA has wasted billions for war with Yemen & struggle with Iran & spreading Wahabism & supporting Daesh based on received orders from it's masters from America & zionist lobby in the USA . 

Inshallah their fall is going to be soon

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22 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

This leaves the Palestinians in the West Bank.

Only a matter of time before Israel stages some type of false flag operation to eject Palestinians living in the West Bank as well...then they'll have the entire country to themselves...they'll begin deconstructing Al Aqsa Mosque and building their Third Temple (in its place) in preparation for the return of their Messiah (according to some sources he's already arrived)...Hamas didn't perform this operation because they're spoiled, bored teenagers on a Saturday night with nothing better to do and were looking for some kicks (as hinted by some people on this forum)...there were 4 or 5 major reasons (can't remember all five)...two of the reasons were: 1.) dramatic increase in Settler violence and 2.) Israeli meddling with Al Aqsa Mosque (hence the name of the operation i.e. Al Aqsa Flood / Storm)...they're performing our duties for us while we munch on potato chips and criticize every move they make like real men

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29 minutes ago, starlight said:

Very interesting watch and here is the book

Tariq Ali's wife is the daughter of my history teacher at school. That's my claim to fame.

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Looks like Israel annexed the UAE without any bloodshed 

 

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Netanyahu's office reported that he had a phone call with the President of the UAE, this is his first conversation with the leader of an Arab country since the beginning of the aggravation around Gaza.

UPDATE: Mohammed bin Zayed expressed his solidarity with Israel and emphasized Israel's 'right to self-defense', while also calling on Israel to stop the bombing of civilians in Gaza.

https://x.com/dd_geopolitics/status/1713936823234535851?s=46&t=cSBAFSCGH9dVrM-ogKDT2Q

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If you haven't, please visit this website:

https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/

Breaking the Silence is an organization of veteran soldiers who have served in the Israeli military since the start of the Second Intifada and have taken it upon themselves to expose the public to the reality of everyday life in the Occupied Territories. We endeavor to stimulate public debate about the price paid for a reality in which young soldiers face a civilian population on a daily basis, and are engaged in the control of that population’s everyday life. Our work aims to bring an end to the occupation.

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Mainstream media, again disgusting biased reporting, and they are coordinated. Again we see the work of the well-connected, powerful israeli media lobbying groups and their supporters. 

From the BBC, arguably the most disgusting headline yet. As Israel anihilate conveys of women and children fleeing to southern Gaza (where can they flee? the place is a dense, open air concentration camp), Israel is trying to destroy hospitals, schools, and infrastructure to make Northern Gaza a barren wasteland. They want to economically finish Gaza, end it, this has nothing to do with Hamas.

But look at the headline - instead of condemning bombing hospitals, they start the headline with the palestinian firing rockets.

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33 minutes ago, Haji 2003 said:

Looks like Israel annexed the UAE without any bloodshed 

 

https://x.com/dd_geopolitics/status/1713936823234535851?s=46&t=cSBAFSCGH9dVrM-ogKDT2Q

Spineless

I am pro Shia-Sunni unity, but i have to say, the Shia countries are the only ones doing anything.

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I am hearing rumours that they are making plans to build settlements after they destroy hospitals, schools, infrastructure and turn northern gaza into a barren wasteland? 

They aren't after Hamas, they just want to pummel Gaza to the ground. Hence they asked civilians to all go, so they can carpet bomb their hospitals, schools, mosques,  and anything of any value.

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27 minutes ago, ShiaMan14 said:

If you haven't, please visit this website:

https://www.breakingthesilence.org.il/

Breaking the Silence is an organization of veteran soldiers who have served in the Israeli military since the start of the Second Intifada and have taken it upon themselves to expose the public to the reality of everyday life in the Occupied Territories. We endeavor to stimulate public debate about the price paid for a reality in which young soldiers face a civilian population on a daily basis, and are engaged in the control of that population’s everyday life. Our work aims to bring an end to the occupation.

This should be made into a thread, and spread everywhere

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On 10/15/2023 at 1:38 PM, Haji 2003 said:

they'll be evicted following another little war.

 

2 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

Only a matter of time before Israel stages some type of false flag operation to eject Palestinians living in the West Bank as well

Actually, the Israelis should do it now while they have this entire media blackout thing going...they might not get another opportunity like this again

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The Israelis aren't the problem...the real problem is Europe itself...this is a civilizational fight to the finish (like Samuel Huntington alluded to)...it's New Zealand, Australia, North America, Canada, Israel and Europe versus the Global South

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4 minutes ago, Eddie Mecca said:

The Israelis aren't the problem...the real problem is Europe itself...this is a civilizational fight to the finish (like Samuel Huntington alluded to)...it's New Zealand, Australia, North America, Canada, Israel and Europe versus the Global South

Imagine Egypt and their suez canal, Saudi Arabia and their oil, Iran and their oil and economic corredor. These are the reason why Us and Eu are in middle east, to destroy this possibility :

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4 hours ago, In Gods Name said:

Spineless

I am pro Shia-Sunni unity, but i have to say, the Shia countries are the only ones doing anything.

And it’s been like this since ages. They all know Iran is the only country that support Palestine for real and millions of Shia fighters from lebanon, Iraq, Yemen etc are ready to fight for Palestine. 
 

 

1 minute ago, ShiaMan14 said:

Except the Arabs Leaders are too stupid and too scared to realize their potential and how much power they have. So they bow down to their Masters instead of rising up to become Masters.

All that needs to happen is for OIC to to call "boycott Israel and boycott any country that does business with Israel". This problem would disappear in 2 weeks but the Arab leaders are too weak and looking out for their selfish interests.

 

what do you expect from money worshipper? Btw I live in gcc (respect to brother ashv) and I swear they rarely talk about what’s happening in Palestine. And when you ask them why they are not talking, then will ask you why should they? 
 

if you understand Arabic watch the video below 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyOX_-QrPNE/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

 

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