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(bismillah)

(salam)

Could someone plz give me a good answer which would leave no room for confusion!

Did Prophets sin?

01) Hazrat Adam (as) ate the food from tree in paradise and then he (as) asked forgiveness from Allah (SWT).

02) Hazrat Yunus (as) did not obey Allah (SWT) order and then (as) asked forgiveness from Allah (SWT) in the whale's mouth.

03) Hazrat Musa (as) killed a person by mistake in order to help his follower and then he (as) asked forgiveness from Allah (SWT).

I know only these, so could u plz tell me why did Prophet Adam (as) and Prophet Yunus (as) not obey Allah (SWT) command, and if they are infallible why did they ask for fogiveness for these acts!!!

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salam..

Well Prophets dont commit sins rather such acts are called TARKE AWLA, which means "abandoning that which was better". I would like to comment on ur ponit # 3 i.e about Hazrat Musa(as) killing a person...

The Prophet Muhammad (pbuh&HF) and Imam Ali (as) killed many unbelievers! They did this to comply with Allah's regulations. Also killing a person during self-defense or when protecting believers from the assault of a non-believer, is not a crime.

Moreover, in many instances the sin of the prophets mentioned in Quran is the act they have committed which is considered violation by the tyrants of their time and NOT by Allah. It means that the governor considered such prophet is GUILTY of a specific act. This does NOT mean that they are guilty before Allah.  The case of Prophet Moses killing a non-believer in defense of one of his Shia

(followers) falls into this category. In fact Quran testifies the above  mentioned fact by saying:

26:10 Behold your Lord called Moses: "Go to unto the wrongdoing folk:

26:11 The people of Pharaoh, will they not fear Allah?

26:12 He said: "O my Lord! I do fear that they will charge me with falsehood"

26:13 "My breast will be straitened and my speech may not go (smoothly), so send Aaron (to help me).

26:14 "And (further) they hold a charge of sin against me; and I fear they may slay me."

As we can see in the last verse, the sin of murder is what the people of Pharaoh considered to be sin and not Allah. They considered Moses guilty. As such, that was not a sin before Allah, but rather the charge of the government.

Prophet Moses did what he was supposed to do, that is helping the oppressed believer against the oppressor. Although he did not intend to kill the oppressor, it happened during that defense. It was a Satan's plan to make the situation more difficult for Moses (as). By that unplanned murder, life was made harder for Moses (as) since he had to stay away from Egypt, but this does not

mean that he sinned. Sometimes defending the truth may cause trouble but not sin. Despite all such troubles, Allah finally granted Moses (as) victory over the unbelievers. Again, Prophet Moses (as) was not a wrong-dower (Dhalim) otherwise it contradicts Verse 2:124 where Allah said that the position of God-assigned leadership shall not reach to the wrong-doers.                                   (taken from Ensyclopedia)

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Salam,

Thanks everyone.

I do believe Prophets are infallible, but when i read these verses in Al-Quran, where Prophet Yunus (as) asks forgivesness from Allah (SWT) in the whale's mouth saying indeed he was Zalimeen... and even Hazrat Adam (as) also asked Allah (SWT) when he ate the apple, I get confused. Please can someone clear these two incidents, esp the incident of Hazrat Yunus (as). Plz.

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sallam brother

You must first understand one thing. By infallible we mean a person who does not commit sin. The Holy prophet used to seek forgiveness from Allah every second of his life. The prophets may have commited mistakes but that doesnot neccessarily mean that those mistakes were sinful. A brother gave an example. A doctor tells you not to eat for an hour...you go home and see a sandwich and eat it. You have not commited sin but you have mistakenly done something. I hope you understand this point. If i am wrong some brother may correct me.

sallam

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Salam,

Thanks everyone.

I do believe Prophets are infallible, but when i read these verses in Al-Quran, where Prophet Yunus (as) asks forgivesness from Allah (SWT) in the whale's mouth saying indeed he was Zalimeen... and even Hazrat Adam (as) also asked Allah (SWT) when he ate the apple, I get confused. Please can someone clear these two incidents, esp the incident of Hazrat Yunus (as). Plz.

(bismillah)

(salam)

brother student

i love it when a knowledgeable brother like you gets confused

makes the case for the people with knowledge stronger

ws

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(bismillah)

(salam)

Thanks brother salmany, But still I didn't get it.

Whatever things Allah (SWT) prohibits for us not to eat then we should refrain from them, if we eat them then we have sinned, for eg: Allah (SWT) has told us not to drink alochol and eat meat of swine. If we drink alcohol and eat swine then we have sinned!!!

I also know that Prophets didn't sin, but I don't understand that why did Hazrat Adam (as) eat the apple, and Hazrat Yunus (as) went against the order.

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(salam)

allahumma salli 'ala Muhammad wa alih

My dear Brothers and Sisters,

Insha'Allah, I will try and shed a little light on this topic; if I can.

The basic principle behind nubuwwah (Prophethood) is that Prophets are ma'sum (infallible). This means that they not only do not sin, but also do not commit any acts that are makruh (reprehensible), ugly, despised, etc. from the view of Islam.

Now, there are certain points in the history of our Beloved Prophets (as) that may appear to us, the lay people, that they have committed an act that may be considered a sin, or a reprehensible act. However, these incidents (the ones verified by the Qur'an and authentic books of hadith) only occurred as lessons for us.

These few occurrences that are mentioned are solely to be viewed as examples for repentance and methods of understanding.

In no way can they be perceived as sins or reprehensible acts in the light of Islam.

I hope this helps.

If you need further information see the book 'aqidah al-Imamiyyah (The Faith of Shi'ah Islam). This book can give a concise and precise explanation regarding nubuwwah (Prophethood), imamah (Imamate), and 'ismah (Infallibility).

Insh'Allah let's make du'a for each other and for the hastening of his return.

(salam)

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