Advanced Member arzoo-e-shahadat Posted March 26, 2004 Advanced Member Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 (bismillah) This should be thought by Shias in Pakistan because the current situation is not so good. I have been going in different areas of Pakistan and this is the result of my observations. Kindly not make it differential but think over these on intellectual manner. (salam) Should we think about preaching (Tabligh) system in Pakistan?It is fact that there is too much emphasis on preaching by actions in Fiqh Jafria but unfortunately with reference to Pakistan this sector is too much weak. Most of the people do not have proper explanation of Usool-e-Deen(Pillars of Religion). They have merged Tauheed with Nabu’at and Imamate. Separation has become too tough. In Fiqh Jafria the theory of Tauheed is so strong which cannot be presented in any other school of thought. But unfortunately we have mixed up and this occurred when we let permitted ignorant (not religiously qualified) people on stage which was stage of knowledge. Now no one is ready to choice the topic on Tauheed or other knowledgeable topics which were distinction of Shias. We have left the way of knowledge. Most of the ignorant people are cursing on Ulema. One cannot imagine how they dare to curse on Ulema and Mujtahideen who are qualified from Najaf and Qum. We have no criteria for speakers either he is violating openly the authentic Islamic teachings like prayer, beard etc. The reality is this that these were the only Ulema who protected Islam and Shiaism from centuries by sacrificing as of Shaheed-e-Awal(First Shaheed), Shaheed-e-Salith(Third Martyred), and many. They bore hardships. Our history is the history of blood and high morale. As the case is of Forooa’at-e-Deen, we are not properly acting on even one. In general society Shias are considered as they do not perform “Namaz” and the reality is also so that the majority not aware and conscious about importance of Prayer. According to Ahlulbait(A.S.) he is no Shia who does not perform Night Prayer(Namaz e Shab). Mosques are also very few having no management for Jamaat even in big cities and existing mosques are empty and locked at the time of prayers. Same situation is for Quran ul Hakeem.We have very less facilities for Quranic education and taking no importance on reciting. Although Quran learning by heart is a distinction and blessing in Islam but we present ourselves as enemies of Shia the Huffaz. Unfortunately in Pakistan Huffaz have been in front for Shia enmity but importance of hifz cannot be ignored. We have very few institutions for the purpose in Pakistan.In the case of Zakat and Khums there is no proper set up through out the country for creating awareness and setting up institutions for uplifting community in social sector and helping for the poor of the community, establishing Madaris, Hospitals, Social Institutions, Educational Bodies, Legal Aid, Shohada Family Help, Research Institutions, Preaching Institutions etc. About Amr Bil Ma’aroof and Nahi Anil Munkar there is no dedicated body working for the purpose and our Majalis are not fulfilling the requirements except inducing for Azadari and not meeting the spirit and objects of Azadari.No knowledgeful research based on intellectual level books are being written in the country except some translations. It seems the the land has become barren. The propagation against Shias is increasing day by day especially by books and print media but we are not aware about the matter. There is need to write books on Sociology, Aqaid, Preachings, Economics, Interest, Islamic Banking, Islamic Law, Quranic Topics, Hadith, Research on different sectors although we have strong theological base in the form of Nhjul Balagha and many others. We should study the ways as others’ set are working in the country like Aga Khan University and other set up, Al Rasheed Trust, Jamiat Ta’alim ul Quran, Darul Uloom, Binory, Jamia Ahrafia, International Islamic University Isb; Islam newspaper, Siddiqui Trust, as how they adopted expansion of their thoughts and set up. We are lagging behind in media. We have no proper Newspaper daily or even weekly known to the whole country and fulfilling the current requirement and same is of Magazines. Some are there like Nawa-e-Islam, Afkar-e-Tauheed, Al Arif, Almuntazar, Tahera, Mujtaba’a. The circulation of existing journals is very limited. Even now we could not establish TV channel. There is also need to take part in political set up properly leaving our differences aside and integrating the community on one stage without this we cannot create attention of the rulers on ourselves. This is necessary for survival in the country. There is also need to establish set up for Tabligh as Brelvies considered it necessary and set up Dawat-e-Islami. They were against Tablighi Jamaat but now they realized this thing. There is also need to create respect of Ulema because they are Hujjat in the absence of Imam Mahdi(A.S.) May Allah bless us to take part in the Army of Imam Mahdi(A.S.)From:Imran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member talib Posted March 26, 2004 Advanced Member Report Share Posted March 26, 2004 Salam AlaycomMashallah Brother Imran very well said, very well said :) We need institutions, we need ..... well please read my PM to u :) People please ponder on the thoughts Bro Imran has written esp our Matami brothers and sistersWasalam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veteran Member Renaissance_Man Posted April 6, 2004 Veteran Member Report Share Posted April 6, 2004 (bismillah) (salam) Good post, mashallah :) IMO, the reason Irani/Iraqi Shi'ahs have more or less made progress is because they dutifully follow the leadership of their olema. In Pakistan people generally distrust the maulvis (sometimes for good reason) so there is no leadership and Shi'ahs are left splintered and disorganized which makes them easy targets for groups like Sipah-e-Sahaba. In order for there to be any change in people's attitudes, it has to start with the olema. Once we get qualified olema, those who've studied at Qom and Najaf not those zakirs who charge exorbitant fees for reading majalis, then people will come to respect them and gather under the umbrella of their leadership which will pave the way for change. Waiting for HIM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member bihari Posted May 9, 2004 Advanced Member Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 salamz...mashallah shias are praising the tableeghi jamaat ..i being very fond of the jamaat and have some time spent with them can say it is the best way to do preaching ..unlike majalis where it is more like some underground cult gathering ...Do tabligh ..open up ...state ur belives openly ....it will inshallah produce harmony among us sunnis and shias.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Peer Posted May 9, 2004 Advanced Member Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 salamz...mashallah shias are praising the tableeghi jamaat ..i being very fond of the jamaat and have some time spent with them can say it is the best way to do preaching ..unlike majalis where it is more like some underground cult gathering ...Do tabligh ..open up ...state ur belives openly ....it will inshallah produce harmony among us sunnis and shias....Oi Biharino one is praising Jamaat here..:lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member bihari Posted May 9, 2004 Advanced Member Report Share Posted May 9, 2004 salamz...mashallah shias are praising the tableeghi jamaat ..i being very fond of the jamaat and have some time spent with them can say it is the best way to do preaching ..unlike majalis where it is more like some underground cult gathering ...Do tabligh ..open up ...state ur belives openly ....it will inshallah produce harmony among us sunnis and shias....Oi Biharino one is praising Jamaat here..:lol: The why r u copying thier stratigies ..this means u praise what they r doing to muslim ummah .... <_< aai sumjh .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member Peer Posted May 17, 2004 Advanced Member Report Share Posted May 17, 2004 LOL, we aren't copying anyone's strategy..We have been holding majalis for over a thousand years! The jamaat just started organizing these tablighi melay at Raiwand just few years back!LOL.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R@z@sh@n Posted June 10, 2004 Report Share Posted June 10, 2004 i have no choice to select Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abaleada Posted June 23, 2004 Report Share Posted June 23, 2004 (bismillah) (salam) Good post, mashallah :) IMO, the reason Irani/Iraqi Shi'ahs have more or less made progress is because they dutifully follow the leadership of their olema. In Pakistan people generally distrust the maulvis (sometimes for good reason) so there is no leadership and Shi'ahs are left splintered and disorganized which makes them easy targets for groups like Sipah-e-Sahaba. In order for there to be any change in people's attitudes, it has to start with the olema. Once we get qualified olema, those who've studied at Qom and Najaf not those zakirs who charge exorbitant fees for reading majalis, then people will come to respect them and gather under the umbrella of their leadership which will pave the way for change. (bismillah)(salam)Do you suppose that the problem is not so much lack of qualified scholars, but the failure of the people to give proper support to those `ulama who are qualified? How much does the impact from non-Islamic cultures have on the religious beliefs and practises of Pakistani Muslims? What can be done to draw people more to qualified `ulama and to spread teachings about Islam in order to increase the knowledge of the people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advanced Member sabrina khatoon Posted July 6, 2004 Advanced Member Report Share Posted July 6, 2004 (salam) Guys,I'm Half Pakistani, so I understand a bit about Pakistan and it's culture.Yea the country is in a bit of a mess, to put it plainly :( .I can't say much for Iraq or Iran either both have their fare share of problems (I am not from these countries by the way)....coming back to the issue of women and pakistan I think it is a great idea to empower knowledge and education...as that is how we are going to have a strong family build up loyal to the teachings of Alulbayt.At the moment it's 90% sheep..... :blink: No offence....but it's true most pakis will follow whatever is being said rather than thinking about what is being said...sad isn't it :angry: I think as a starting point we need to increase the literacy rate in countries susch as Pakistan, which I think I quite low?....I think they are....it's a hard struggle,.....I remember going there once and it was like...hellooooo can you read this for me as I can't....... the women just stared at me.... :( What can be done to draw people more to qualified `ulama and to spread teachings about Islam in order to increase the knowledge of the people?That's where we come in :angel: :D Allah help you guys in your struggles.Good to have brought it to attention, at least some of us care :rolleyes: .Sabrina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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