sunnishia Fake Islam

[ServantOfMahdi]

Islam without following the 12 Ahl al-Bayt Imams:
1. Triple talaq
2. Terrorism
3. Four Shariats
4. Devils running away from an ex-mushrik ummati
5. Devilish magic working on the ever purest the Final Prophet
6. Qur'an descending against the best Prophet's wishes
7. Qur'an descending according to an ex-kafir ummati's wishes
8. Allah as a physical being sitting above the heavens
9. Adult breastfeeding for making mahrams
10. Non-prophets making changes in the Shariat
11. Sheep eating away a part of the Qur'an forever
12. The Prophet giving devastating advices in worldly affairs
13. The Prophet having inferior knowledge of science
14. Seeking religion from a woman compared with Lot's wife
15. Ya America Madad is Tawheed and Ya Ali Madad is Shirk

[Mediterranean Alawite]

Islam without the 12 imams is not divine religion. It's shallow, superficial lip-service.

The focus is on physical acts of obedience. There is little to no element of spirituality or esotericism. Their religion is all about living with total, unquestioning blind faith in a god they don't even understand, even while their role models are devoid of faith and knowledge. Because understanding isn't important; what's important is obedience.

Their objective of life is a math equation weighing up good deeds vs bad deeds. There is no concept of ongoing improvement of the soul - gardens of paradise and virgins is the motivation.

Any spirituality that made its way into their religion came through the 12 imams. All 4 leaders of their mazahib were indirectly or directly taught by Imam Jafar al-Sadiq (عليه السلام). Yet they do not even include the Jafari mazhab as a valid school.

Undoubtedly, there is no islam without the 12 imams. The 12 imams brought the ta'weel to the Prophet's tanzeel. The 12 imams explained the esoteric realities after the Prophet established the exoteric foundations. Islam is incomplete without these individuals.

ٱلْيَوْمَ أَكْمَلْتُ لَكُمْ دِينَكُمْ وَأَتْمَمْتُ عَلَيْكُمْ نِعْمَتِى وَرَضِيتُ لَكُمُ ٱلْإِسْلَـٰمَ دِينًۭا ۚ
Today I have perfected your religion for you, and completed My favour upon you, and chosen Islam as your religion. (5:3)

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وأخرج ابن مردويه وابن عساكر بسند ضعيف عن أبي سعيد الخدري قال " لما نصب رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم علياً يوم غدير خم فنادى له بالولاية، هبط جبريل عليه بهذه الآية { اليوم أكملت لكم دينكم } ".

Ibn Mardawiya and Ibn Asakir narrated from Abi Sa’eed al-Khodri who said: ‘When the Messenger of Allah (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) appointed Ali on the day of Ghadeer Khumm and announced his wilayah, Gabriel brought the verse: "Today I have perfected your religion for you."'

Source: Al-Durr al-Manthoor by Jalal al-Din al-Suyuti

 

[Abu Hassanain]

On 5/24/2026 at 4:12 AM, ServantOfMahdi said:

Islam without following the 12 Ahl al-Bayt Imams:
1. Triple talaq
2. Terrorism
3. Four Shariats
4. Devils running away from an ex-mushrik ummati
5. Devilish magic working on the ever purest the Final Prophet
6. Qur'an descending against the best Prophet's wishes
7. Qur'an descending according to an ex-kafir ummati's wishes
8. Allah as a physical being sitting above the heavens
9. Adult breastfeeding for making mahrams
10. Non-prophets making changes in the Shariat
11. Sheep eating away a part of the Qur'an forever
12. The Prophet giving devastating advices in worldly affairs
13. The Prophet having inferior knowledge of science
14. Seeking religion from a woman compared with Lot's wife
15. Ya America Madad is Tawheed and Ya Ali Madad is Shirk

Salam

there’s worse much has been deleted from English translation but I read in one of their “sahih sitra” 

The prophet was leading the prayers, on coming up to start the second unit, he noticed a stain on the crotch of his pants, and saw he was janub  bilal walked over and saw he was janub, than the prophet went to take a  ghusul,and bilal finished leading the prayers 

this is absolutely disgusting and horrible. It’s blasphemy and it’s accusing the best prophet of the worst ignorance and the worst neglect

It’s no wonder the Orient list the Christians and other opponents call Islam demonic the God, the prophet in the personalities described in the books of Sunni appeared demonic ignorance, and horrible

Real Allah Habib ul Mumin and Real Rasul Allah sawa are only found in Shia School 

thus the statement by some mystics La Waliyah La Tawhid La Waliyah La Risalah 

because If you do not go thru Aimmah as and what the narrate you will never get authentic teachings of the prophet or understanding of the prophet sawa and Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) 

wallahu Alam 

[ServantOfMahdi]

8 hours ago, Mediterranean Alawite said:

The focus is on physical acts of obedience. There is little to no element of spirituality or esotericism. Their religion is all about living with total, unquestioning blind faith in a god they don't even understand, even while their role models are devoid of faith and knowledge. Because understanding isn't important; what's important is obedience.

Their objective of life is a math equation weighing up good deeds vs bad deeds. There is no concept of ongoing improvement of the soul - gardens of paradise and virgins is the motivation.

Yes of the kind of the sort of Judaism Jesus (عليه السلام) came to reform.

8 hours ago, Mediterranean Alawite said:

Any spirituality that made its way into their religion came through the 12 imams.

Yes almost all their Sufi orders trace their chains to our Imams, and their Sufi masters have borrowed a lot from Shia mystics.

8 hours ago, Mediterranean Alawite said:

Undoubtedly, there is no islam without the 12 imams. The 12 imams brought the ta'weel to the Prophet's tanzeel. The 12 imams explained the esoteric realities after the Prophet established the exoteric foundations. Islam is incomplete without these individuals.

Yes brother, our Sunni brothers have little more than scraps of the peel, while Shiism is whole fruit with the pulp. 

 

[ServantOfMahdi]

19 hours ago, Abu Hassanain said:

Salam

there’s worse much has been deleted from English translation but I read in one of their “sahih sitra” 

The prophet was leading the prayers, on coming up to start the second unit, he noticed a stain on the crotch of his pants, and saw he was janub  bilal walked over and saw he was janub, than the prophet went to take a  ghusul,and bilal finished leading the prayers 

this is absolutely disgusting and horrible. It’s blasphemy and it’s accusing the best prophet of the worst ignorance and the worst neglect

It’s no wonder the Orient list the Christians and other opponents call Islam demonic the God, the prophet in the personalities described in the books of Sunni appeared demonic ignorance, and horrible

Real Allah Habib ul Mumin and Real Rasul Allah sawa are only found in Shia School 

thus the statement by some mystics La Waliyah La Tawhid La Waliyah La Risalah 

because If you do not go thru Aimmah as and what the narrate you will never get authentic teachings of the prophet or understanding of the prophet sawa and Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) 

wallahu Alam 

Anyone who has genuinely familiarized himself with the Sunni corpus on matters of creed, law, religion, and the Prophet, yet still remains Sunni, appears to have chosen bias, obstinacy, and sectarian partisanship over intelligence, honesty, and intellectual integrity.

(from my experience as an ex-Sunni extremist)

[StrangerInThisWorld]

Salamun 'alaykum, 

the foundation of Sunnism is based upon hiding knowledge from the lay Muslim and keeping him ignorant on many key matters. The aim behind this is to make the lay Muslim think  very high of the first two Khulafa even if it means to attack the 'Isma (infallibility) of Rasulullah (sallallahu 'alayhi wa alihi wa sallam) and to lie against him and distort his call. 

This way was started by the first two Khulafa themselves when they burned the Ahadith (reports) concerning the Messenger of Allah (may peace and blessings be upon him and his pure family) and banned writing them down (despite these reports being mostly by eyewitnesses and therefore in most cases more reliable than what was narrated later on) and this was done by them in order to hide some of the teachings of Islam, which would make clear that their rule was not legitimate.

Thereafter Bani Umayya and Bani al-'Abbas adopted this way, because their rule would also become illegitimate the moment the people would come to know that Allah ta'ala appointed twelve leaders from among the Ahl al-Bayt (peace be upon them) - the first being Imam 'Ali bin Abi Talib and the last being Imam al-Mahdi - and protected them from sin and as such obedience towards them is obligatory and their understanding of the religion of Allah ta'ala is the only one that protects from deviance, because it's identical to the call of the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu 'alayhi wa alih). 

The difference between Bani Umayya and Bani al-'Abbas was that Bani al-Abbas also "accepted" the Khilafa of Amir al-Muminin (peace be upon him) as the "fourth rightly guided Khalifa", but this in order to present him as "a Khalifa among a line of other Khulafa" and in order not to be vulnerable to criticism by all the established reports in praise of Amir al-Muminin (peace be upon him), because this was one of the major reasons which weakened Bani Umayya prior to them. 

The "Ahl al-Sunna wal Jama'a" we see today is basically a number of different school of thoughts, that have big differences among themselves even regarding Allah ta'ala, but are united upon "acceptance of the first four Khulafa" as supported by Bani al-'Abbas and their scholars. Later on different Sunni empires followed their footsteps in accepting only those schools, who accept all four. 

It's not a coincidence that the major heads of Sunnism lived during the rule of Bani al-'Abbas and that their Fiqh and 'Aqida was basically accepted through Bani al-'Abbas themselves and spread among the people with their support. 

[StrangerInThisWorld]

58 minutes ago, StrangerInThisWorld said:

Salamun 'alaykum, 

the foundation of Sunnism is based upon hiding knowledge from the lay Muslim and keeping him ignorant on many key matters. The aim behind this is to make the lay Muslim think  very high of the first two Khulafa even if it means to attack the 'Isma (infallibility) of Rasulullah (sallallahu 'alayhi wa alihi wa sallam) and to lie against him and distort his call. 

 

Some examples of some important incidents that I did not hear mentioned by our Sunni Mashayikh throughout my whole life (with some rare exceptions, when they would mention something without any context or background information and this is order to "refute the Rafida"):

- The attempt of 12 - 14 hypocrites among the companions to kill the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu 'alayhi wa alih) at 'Aqabat Tabuk and this being after Tabuk and after the mass-transmitted and established statement of Rasulullah regarding the relationship between him and Imam 'Ali (peace be upon him) to be like that between Musa and Harun (peace be upon them)

- The fact that Rasulullah (sallallahu' alayhi wa alih) stated at the farewell pilgrimage and at Ghadir that he left two things - the Book of Allah ta'ala and the Ahl al-Bayt (peace be upon them) - that protects one from deviance and that "Kitab Allahi wa Sunnati" was a later invention and not present in any of the Kutub al-Sitta

- The whole incident of Ghadir and that it's the most reported incident of the early Islamic history and the statement of Rasulullah (sallallahu 'alayhi wa alih) "Man kuntu Mawlah fa hadha 'Aliyyun Mawla" is absolutely established by all sides and that the Messenger of Allah started mentioning his own Wilaya and thereafter made clear that Amir al-Muminin has the very same Wilaya upon all believers 

- The disobedience that happened after the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu 'alayhi wa alih) commanded many of the companions to march forth under Usama 

- The open disobediance that happened at Raziyyat Yawm al-Khamis and the rejection of guidance by the group of the second Khalifa

- The deceitful tactics that the first two Khulafa used - especially at Saqifat Bani Sa'ida - in order to disobey the command of the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu 'alayhi wa alih) concerning Imama and that Bani Hashim and many other early Muslims were not asked regarding their position on this issue

- The discussion that happened regarding Fadak and the issue of inheritance between Sayyidat Nisa al-'Alamin Fatima (peace be upon her) and the first usurper and her being displeased with him and not speaking to him until she passed away and her wish to Amir al-Muminin to be buried at night and at an unknown location in order for this usurper not to be able to attend her funeral 

- The threat to burn down the house of Fatima and 'Ali (peace be upon them) in order to force Amir al-Muminin to pledge allegiance to their rule and that some sort of attack happened

- The fact that the rule of the third Khalifa was hated by the majority of Muhajirin and Ansar due to many reasons 

- The evil deeds of most of Bani Umayya be it Mu'awiya - the leader of the rebellious group and callers to hellfire - or that of his father or his son or most of his relatives 

 

It's really astonishing how these people managed to hide so many well established informations (according to the standards of both sides and even when looking at the issues from a mere historical perspective) from so many Muslims.

I really don't want to be in the skin of those who did this knowingly, because their likeness is no different to the Ahbar and Ruhban whom the nations before us had taken as Arbab, who would also hide knowledge and write things with their own hands and claim it to be from Allah ta'ala for a small worldly price. 

Edited June 5 by StrangerInThisWorld

[realizm]

On 5/24/2026 at 11:12 AM, ServantOfMahdi said:

15. Ya America Madad is Tawheed and Ya Ali Madad is Shirk

 

This.

[ServantOfMahdi]

4 hours ago, realizm said:

This

[ServantOfMahdi]

19 hours ago, StrangerInThisWorld said:

Salamun 'alaykum, 

the foundation of Sunnism is based upon hiding knowledge from the lay Muslim and keeping him ignorant on many key matters. The aim behind this is to make the lay Muslim think  very high of the first two Khulafa even if it means to attack the 'Isma (infallibility) of Rasulullah (sallallahu 'alayhi wa alihi wa sallam) and to lie against him and distort his call. 

This way was started by the first two Khulafa themselves when they burned the Ahadith (reports) concerning the Messenger of Allah (may peace and blessings be upon him and his pure family) and banned writing them down (despite these reports being mostly by eyewitnesses and therefore in most cases more reliable than what was narrated later on) and this was done by them in order to hide some of the teachings of Islam, which would make clear that their rule was not legitimate.

Thereafter Bani Umayya and Bani al-'Abbas adopted this way, because their rule would also become illegitimate the moment the people would come to know that Allah ta'ala appointed twelve leaders from among the Ahl al-Bayt (peace be upon them) - the first being Imam 'Ali bin Abi Talib and the last being Imam al-Mahdi - and protected them from sin and as such obedience towards them is obligatory and their understanding of the religion of Allah ta'ala is the only one that protects from deviance, because it's identical to the call of the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu 'alayhi wa alih). 

The difference between Bani Umayya and Bani al-'Abbas was that Bani al-Abbas also "accepted" the Khilafa of Amir al-Muminin (peace be upon him) as the "fourth rightly guided Khalifa", but this in order to present him as "a Khalifa among a line of other Khulafa" and in order not to be vulnerable to criticism by all the established reports in praise of Amir al-Muminin (peace be upon him), because this was one of the major reasons which weakened Bani Umayya prior to them. 

The "Ahl al-Sunna wal Jama'a" we see today is basically a number of different school of thoughts, that have big differences among themselves even regarding Allah ta'ala, but are united upon "acceptance of the first four Khulafa" as supported by Bani al-'Abbas and their scholars. Later on different Sunni empires followed their footsteps in accepting only those schools, who accept all four. 

It's not a coincidence that the major heads of Sunnism lived during the rule of Bani al-'Abbas and that their Fiqh and 'Aqida was basically accepted through Bani al-'Abbas themselves and spread among the people with their support. 

Alayka ssalam

A very well put summary of Sunnism's dark realities. 

Barakallah 

Jazakallah khayran ya akhi

 

Edited June 6 by ServantOfMahdi

[ServantOfMahdi]

19 hours ago, StrangerInThisWorld said:

The attempt of 12 - 14 hypocrites among the companions to kill the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu 'alayhi wa alih) at 'Aqabat Tabuk

The revelation and confirmation of their identities was one of the biggest shocks of my life.

19 hours ago, StrangerInThisWorld said:

The fact that Rasulullah (sallallahu' alayhi wa alih) stated at the farewell pilgrimage and at Ghadir that he left two things - the Book of Allah ta'ala and the Ahl al-Bayt (peace be upon them) - that protects one from deviance and that "Kitab Allahi wa Sunnati" was a later invention and not present in any of the Kutub al-Sitta

As a salafi claiming to follow only the Qur'an and sahih ahadith, here's where I literally felt the most deceived by salafi 'shaykhs' and preachers. They do all this on purpose. Fraudsters like the founding leaders of their sect.

19 hours ago, StrangerInThisWorld said:

The threat to burn down the house of Fatima and 'Ali (peace be upon them) in order to force Amir al-Muminin to pledge allegiance to their rule and that some sort of attack happened

This was the turning point in my journey, after finding relevant reports sahih at the level of Bukhari's standards, I finally was convinced that the Ghadir declaration was indeed the designation of Imam Ali (عليه السلام) as the Caliph and the Saqifa event was indeed a rebellion against it. In this whole debate around the attack on our Queen's House, Abu Bakr's confession of laying Sayyida Fatima's House bare which—as per his own words in the report—"had been shut with the aim of making war (on him)" reported in al-Ahadith al-Mukhtara (a hadith book as evidential as bukhari and muslim according to al-Dhahabi – al-daris fi ta'rikh al-madaris) decisively establishes the argument against the sunnis that umar's threat was indeed carried out (corroborating sunni reports mention umar bringing a burning torch with his mob).

19 hours ago, StrangerInThisWorld said:

The fact that the rule of the third Khalifa was hated by the majority of Muhajirin and Ansar due to many reasons

And that prominent Sahaba participated in his assassination and the Medinese people didn't let him get buried in the Muslim Baqee‘ cemetery and he was thus buried in the Jewish cemetery whose land muawiya l.a. later purchased during his rule and merged it with the Baqee‘ cemetery.

19 hours ago, StrangerInThisWorld said:

those who did this knowingly, because their likeness is no different to the Ahbar and Ruhban whom the nations before us had taken as Arbab, who would also hide knowledge and write things with their own hands and claim it to be from Allah ta'ala for a small worldly price. 

Yes if no special favouritism is going to work for those rabbis in Allah's court, same goes for such mullas, they only differ in their labels, but their realities are the same, just as zionists and kharijites differ only in their labels but both enjoy and justify killing innocents from other creeds.

Edited June 6 by ServantOfMahdi

[StrangerInThisWorld]

On 6/6/2026 at 3:54 PM, ServantOfMahdi said:

As a salafi claiming to follow only the Qur'an and sahih ahadith, here's where I literally felt the most deceived by salafi 'shaykhs' and preachers. They do all this on purpose. Fraudsters like the founding leaders of their sect.

Wa 'alayka al-Salam dear brother, 

I already knew that so called "Salafi" Mashayikh were nothing but deceivers and callers to pagan ideas and that they did not know Allah ta'ala nor did they know His beloved Messenger (sallallahu 'alayhi wa alihi wa sallam).  

What astonished me however was how "Salafi" ideas were easily replacing established Sunni positions among pretty much most of our countries and this until I realized that Sunnis in general changed their ideas every now and then according to who ruled them. 

The main reason for this is them not adhering to the Book of Allah ta'ala and the Ahl al-Bayt (peace be upon them): This opens the doors for all kinds of ignorant and evil people to infiltrate them, inject false ideas into their heads and even be their leaders. 

I mean their most trusted two companions are those two, who al-Zahra (peace and blessings be upon her) did not even want to be present at her funeral. 

Their most trusted two books are those two, which are filled with insults and attacks against the Best of Creation (sallallahu 'alayhi wa alihi wa sallam) in all kinds of manners. 

The male narrator, which has the most narrations in their books, is a person, that was distrusted by his own generation and the generation after him and was a person known for Tadlis and was very obviously a corrupt person. 

The female narrator, which has the most narrations in their books, is a person, against whom a whole Sura was revealed (Surat al-Tahrim) and who waged war against the Imam appointed by Allah ta'ala and caused the killing of many Muslims and opened the doors for the old enemies of the Muslims to draw their swords against the Prophetic family. 

Thereafter these very enemies and the greedy rulers that followed their footsteps afterwards defined the religion for the so called "Ahl al-Sunna wal Jama'a". Similar to this is what happened to the Christians before when a mighty polytheist government "embraced Christianity" and thereafter used their men from among the so called "scholars" to define the "correct creed" for them. And let's not forget their whole trust in an enemy of early Christians and them taking his words as revelation prior to this. 

 

And this where I think the greatest difference between the way that Allah ta'ala commanded us to follow is from that which the nations before us and even many from among us followed:

The issue of 'Isma (infallibility) and that Allah ta'ala only and only commands us to follow those, whom He has chosen and who are infallible examples for us (and I'm intending real infallibility and not the fake "only infallible in transmitting"-one!). 

Edited July 6 by StrangerInThisWorld

[Zaid.AN]

Assalamu Alaikum, 
There is no Islam without the Ahl al-Bayt (peace be upon them), for there is only one Islam, and it is impossible to know or reach it at all except through them, 
It is stated in Al-Ziyara Al-Jami'a Al-Kabira:
"مَنْ أَرادَ الله بَدَأَ بِكُمْ"
"Whoever intends to reach Allah begins with you all."

[Hameedeh]

On 7/8/2026 at 3:36 AM, Zaid.AN said:

It is stated in Al-Ziyara Al-Jami'a Al-Kabira:
"مَنْ أَرادَ الله بَدَأَ بِكُمْ"
"Whoever intends to reach Allah begins with you all."

Salam. Thank you. The quote is attributed to the 10th Holy Imam AS, Imam Hadi al-Haqq.

FYI: I am not referring to a Zaidi Imam nor an Ismaili Imam.

Edited Saturday at 04:44 AM by Hameedeh
FYI

[ServantOfMahdi]

5 hours ago, Hameedeh said:

the 10th Holy Imam AS, Imam Hadi al-Haqq.

FYI: I am not referring to a Zaidi Imam

We mention the 10th Immaculate Imam Ali IV as al-Hadi and al-Naqi (عليه السلام).

The Zaidi one is mentioned by his followers as al-Hadi ila al-Haqq.

[Hameedeh]

1 hour ago, ServantOfMahdi said:

We mention the 10th Immaculate Imam Ali IV as al-Hadi and al-Naqi (عليه السلام).

The Zaidi one is mentioned by his followers as al-Hadi ila al-Haqq.

Salam, Brother. Are you saying that the quote "Whoever intends to reach Allah begins with you all" is a quote by a Zaidi Imam? 

[ServantOfMahdi]

4 hours ago, Hameedeh said:

Salam, Brother. Are you saying that the quote "Whoever intends to reach Allah begins with you all" is a quote by a Zaidi Imam? 

Wa alaikumussalam. No not that. I was telling that like what you mentioned

12 hours ago, Hameedeh said:

Imam Hadi al-Haqq

the title al-Hadi with al-Haqq (al-Imam al-Hadi ila al-Haqq) is used by the Zaidis for one of their Imams (namely Yahya ibn al-Husain al-Hasani)

 

While for

12 hours ago, Hameedeh said:

the 10th Holy Imam AS, Imam Hadi

We Twelvers generally say just al-Imam al-Hadi (Ali al-Hadi al-Naqi) (عليه السلام).

[Hameedeh]

12 minutes ago, ServantOfMahdi said:

We Twelvers generally say just al-Imam al-Hadi (Ali al-Hadi al-Naqi) (عليه السلام).

Thank you. I should have said it that way. I wanted to say Imam Hadi AS, the father of Imam al-Askari AS, but I thought it might confuse somebody. What I wrote was more confusing than that. Thank you for correcting me. 

[ServantOfMahdi]

1 hour ago, Hameedeh said:

Thank you.

Bārakallāhu fīkum