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It means that the hair is faded up from a half guard or a number 1 into the top rather than being shaved the way a  "skin" or "bald" fade is. Since no part of the head is being shaved it seems halal, not like a skin fade. 

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On 5/6/2026 at 2:15 PM, rammy said:

It means that the hair is faded up from a half guard or a number 1 into the top rather than being shaved the way a  "skin" or "bald" fade is. Since no part of the head is being shaved it seems halal, not like a skin fade. 

Salam. Where does it say that shaving the head is bad or prohibited? Isn't the baby's head shaved during the first week of life?

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On 5/6/2026 at 2:15 PM, rammy said:

It means that the hair is faded up from a half guard or a number 1 into the top rather than being shaved the way a  "skin" or "bald" fade is. Since no part of the head is being shaved it seems halal, not like a skin fade. 

Where did you get the idea that it is haram? Who is your marja? If a newborn baby is shaven during the first week of life, why would it be haram for you to have a fade?  

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12 hours ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

Where did you get the idea that it is haram? Who is your marja? If a newborn baby is shaven during the first week of life, why would it be haram for you to have a fade?  

Salam

sunni in particular has narrations about shaving part of the head, but not the whole head in general there Islamic narrations about shaving. The whole head is a punishment for exile or assigned disgrace, but that’s specific rather than general. We have some narrations mentioning not to do partial shaving of the head, but they’re less reliable. They’re not unreliable and in less than major books. 

Basically, the only at this time if it’s the whole head, not power should only time it would be a problem is if it’s imitating a specific group of disbeliever so that one is considered one of them by having this hairstyle

For example, if someone was wearing baggy pants, but not showing his private parts, long T-shirts and a do rag, but that’s how everybody in his address anyway and he’s from that area that’s not problematic, but if wearing a specifically pink hat, say it was for homosexuals in one area and one doesn’t live in any area where they do that for different reasons and people only sell the pink hat with homosexuality, and then a believer wouldn’t be allowed to engage in such conduct

Sometimes people overthink the actual implication of narrations

wallahu Alam 

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7 hours ago, Abu Hassanain said:

sunni in particular has narrations about shaving part of the head, but not the whole head in general there Islamic narrations about shaving. The whole head is a punishment for exile or assigned disgrace, but that’s specific rather than general. We have some narrations mentioning not to do partial shaving of the head, but they’re less reliable. They’re not unreliable and in less than major books. 

I remember, I used to be Sunni. I asked because I was wondering if the brother was reading from Sunni sources and just assuming it is the same in Jafari madhab. Since you are a scholar, what is the status of braiding in our madhab?

8 hours ago, Abu Hassanain said:

Sometimes people overthink the actual implication of narrations

It was a big issue for me when I converted to Islam and still is.

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21 minutes ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

I remember, I used to be Sunni. I asked because I was wondering if the brother was reading from Sunni sources and just assuming it is the same in Jafari madhab. Since you are a scholar, what is the status of braiding in our madhab?

It was a big issue for me when I converted to Islam and still is.

Salam

never seen any specific narration against braiding . Narrations in both school of fault the holy prophet, peace and blessings be upon him I used to have two braids on each side, head or parts in the middle.

If you tell him out what they often call in the last box, braids or corn rolls I’ve also never seen any narration that would indicate this is prohibited or any role of a scholar against it  

 This is based on the fact that these are not hairstyles that are specific to women that are commonly according maurf or culture and custom something excepted that are both male and female

For wudhu one would have to get the fingers between the rolls of braids so that they touch skin when doing massa 

for sayyid Khoy Ra and Sayyid Ruhani the elder specifically I know that they more or less indicate these hairstyles invalidate Wudu and their representatives would have a converse of Afro Caribbean heritage, shave their hair or cut it low

Muscle of the living scholars indicated as long as you can make a part and make water touch the part. It was fine. The late Sayyid Khamini Ra have the rolling for dreadlocks or tight braids. As long as you make an effort to make water touch skin and you get some skin. It was fine or the touch hair that touches skin. It was fine. That’s why you see a lot of his followers in Nigeria have thick dreads and there’s no problem there. 

S4. The French braiding or the Native American style braiding again coding, and Line with most of the narrations of use of scholars and what’s commonly practice as long as it’s not a specific feminine style there’s no problem there’s been some discussion against the ponytail, but again very little evidence has been produced to that effect in the modern sense particularly when you’re dealing with Hispanic or Native American culture

I hit a weird argument against my long hair from some people that it looks like the hippies, and therefore it must be prohibited, and then I just mention that most of the invaluable some people in general when you read this historical council narration had here to their shoulders and this idea very short hair only being masculine with a very modern idea it might loosely for the last hundred years or so it might loosely be based on some Roman statues 

wallahu Alam 

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31 minutes ago, Abu Hassanain said:

For wudhu one would have to get the fingers between the rolls of braids so that they touch skin when doing massa 

What happens if this person does tayammum?

37 minutes ago, Abu Hassanain said:

never seen any specific narration against braiding . Narrations in both school of fault the holy prophet, peace and blessings be upon him I used to have two braids on each side, head or parts in the middle.

Even for facial hair? Because my mother wanted to braid my beard.

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I hit a weird argument against my long hair from some people that it looks like the hippies, and therefore it must be prohibited, and then I just mention that most of the invaluable some people in general when you read this historical council narration had here to their shoulders and this idea very short hair only being masculine with a very modern idea it might loosely for the last hundred years or so it might loosely be based on some Roman statues 

Most of the fussing in 20th-21st centuries about long hair is mainly people being afraid of lice and being perceived as dirty. Otherwise, I think it is childish of people tell others that they look like a drug addict for having long hair.

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7 hours ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

What happens if this person does tayammum?

Even for facial hair? Because my mother wanted to braid my beard.

Most of the fussing in 20th-21st centuries about long hair is mainly people being afraid of lice and being perceived as dirty. Otherwise, I think it is childish of people tell others that they look like a drug addict for having long hair.

Salam

we have no adorations specifically discussed braiding the beard

What one would have to look at here is the reason for doing it doesn’t have a cultural background. Does it have a negative connotation and is it specific to females which obviously beards are not?

The other issues enrolling you would have to look at her, the narrations about ostentatious style of clothes or appearance, and you would have to compare that to where you actually live in the current culture

wallahu Alam 

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7 hours ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

What happens if this person does tayammum?

Even for facial hair? Because my mother wanted to braid my beard.

Most of the fussing in 20th-21st centuries about long hair is mainly people being afraid of lice and being perceived as dirty. Otherwise, I think it is childish of people tell others that they look like a drug addict for having long hair.

Salam

tayyamum it’s not valid just because one has a style of hair that according to their scholar, they can’t have for purification

For a valid reason for it, one is wiping the face and hands, so it doesn’t really affect the head unless the hair goes over the forehead, but generally braids are pulled back so it doesn’t become an issue otherwise you have to push the hair out of the face to do dry or rubbing

I mean, for example, somebody has to take ghusul janabah and it’s cold in the apartment because they didn’t turn the heat on or there was a cold spell they can simply wash their private parts and make dry earth rubbing as a replacement until such time as it warns warms up. This will be a valid reason because of a fear of cold that could cause sickness, but as soon as the water can get warm enough, or you can get enough clothes so you don’t have to go out or you can go immediately from the shower to drying off and under the covers, and that removes the excuse 

This is an example of a modern scenario of how this works

wallahu Alam 

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On 5/11/2026 at 3:58 PM, Hameedeh said:

Salam. Where does it say that shaving the head is bad or prohibited? Isn't the baby's head shaved during the first week of life?

Salam, you can't shave only part of the head and leave others alone.

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On 5/6/2026 at 2:15 PM, rammy said:

It means that the hair is faded up from a half guard or a number 1 into the top rather than being shaved the way a  "skin" or "bald" fade is. Since no part of the head is being shaved it seems halal, not like a skin fade. 

 

2 hours ago, rammy said:

Salam, you can't shave only part of the head and leave others alone.

Salam. Are you answering your own question according to Sunni view as mentioned above by Shaykh @Abu Hassanain?

What about men who get their head shaved when they go for the Hajj? 

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2 hours ago, rammy said:

Salam, you can't shave only part of the head and leave others alone.

Wasalam, this is not a part of the Jafari madhab, also it contradicts the Quran, as we are expected to shave our heads for Hajj.

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لَّقَدْ صَدَقَ ٱللَّهُ رَسُولَهُ ٱلرُّءْيَا بِٱلْحَقِّ ۖ لَتَدْخُلُنَّ ٱلْمَسْجِدَ ٱلْحَرَامَ إِن شَآءَ ٱللَّهُ ءَامِنِينَ مُحَلِّقِينَ رُءُوسَكُمْ وَمُقَصِّرِينَ لَا تَخَافُونَ ۖ فَعَلِمَ مَا لَمْ تَعْلَمُوا۟ فَجَعَلَ مِن دُونِ ذَٰلِكَ فَتْحًۭا قَرِيبًا ٢٧

 

Truly did Allah fulfil the vision for His Messenger: ye shall enter the Sacred Mosque, if Allah wills, with minds secure, heads shaved, hair cut short, and without fear. For He knew what ye knew not, and He granted, besides this, a speedy victory.
— A. Yusuf Ali (48:27)

 

وَأَتِمُّوا۟ ٱلْحَجَّ وَٱلْعُمْرَةَ لِلَّهِ ۚ فَإِنْ أُحْصِرْتُمْ فَمَا ٱسْتَيْسَرَ مِنَ ٱلْهَدْىِ ۖ وَلَا تَحْلِقُوا۟ رُءُوسَكُمْ حَتَّىٰ يَبْلُغَ ٱلْهَدْىُ مَحِلَّهُۥ ۚ فَمَن كَانَ مِنكُم مَّرِيضًا أَوْ بِهِۦٓ أَذًۭى مِّن رَّأْسِهِۦ فَفِدْيَةٌۭ مِّن صِيَامٍ أَوْ صَدَقَةٍ أَوْ نُسُكٍۢ ۚ فَإِذَآ أَمِنتُمْ فَمَن تَمَتَّعَ بِٱلْعُمْرَةِ إِلَى ٱلْحَجِّ فَمَا ٱسْتَيْسَرَ مِنَ ٱلْهَدْىِ ۚ فَمَن لَّمْ يَجِدْ فَصِيَامُ ثَلَـٰثَةِ أَيَّامٍۢ فِى ٱلْحَجِّ وَسَبْعَةٍ إِذَا رَجَعْتُمْ ۗ تِلْكَ عَشَرَةٌۭ كَامِلَةٌۭ ۗ ذَٰلِكَ لِمَن لَّمْ يَكُنْ أَهْلُهُۥ حَاضِرِى ٱلْمَسْجِدِ ٱلْحَرَامِ ۚ وَٱتَّقُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ وَٱعْلَمُوٓا۟ أَنَّ ٱللَّهَ شَدِيدُ ٱلْعِقَابِ ١٩٦

And complete the Hajj or 'umra in the service of Allah. But if ye are prevented (From completing it), send an offering for sacrifice, such as ye may find, and do not shave your heads until the offering reaches the place of sacrifice. And if any of you is ill, or has an ailment in his scalp, (Necessitating shaving), (He should) in compensation either fast, or feed the poor, or offer sacrifice; and when ye are in peaceful conditions (again), if any one wishes to continue the 'umra on to the hajj, He must make an offering, such as he can afford, but if he cannot afford it, He should fast three days during the hajj and seven days on his return, Making ten days in all. This is for those whose household is not in (the precincts of) the Sacred Mosque. And fear Allah, and know that Allah Is strict in punishment.
— A. Yusuf Ali (2:196)

 

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1 hour ago, Hameedeh said:

 

Salam. Are you answering your own question according to Sunni view as mentioned above by Shaykh @Abu Hassanain?

What about men who get their head shaved when they go for the Hajj? 

You can shave the hole head that's halal. having patches shaved is haram.

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1 hour ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

Wasalam, this is not a part of the Jafari madhab, also it contradicts the Quran, as we are expected to shave our heads for Hajj.

 

shaving the hole head is fine. It's when you have patches shaved and others unshaved.  I'm sunnni I love shiachat but I'm sunni.

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11 minutes ago, rammy said:

You can shave the hole head that's halal. having patches shaved is haram.

You said .5 or #1 guard in the OP, so that is not shaving. That would be trimming. 

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13 minutes ago, rammy said:

shaving the hole head is fine. It's when you have patches shaved and others unshaved.  I'm sunnni I love shiachat but I'm sunni.

Sorry, my mistake. I thought you are Shia and wanted to know the Shia ruling.

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