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Approximately 28 minutes - 

"Why are we taught that the Mahdi is only a man of peace and tears? In this episode, we challenge the "nice guy" image of the Imam and discuss the reality of the 10,000 soldiers.

We dive into why Western Shia institutions are painting a picture of an Imam who is "accepted" by America and why this is a dangerous deception. It's time to stop being "sheep" and start recognizing the system of Taghut we live"

 

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Salam

it is narrated by Imam Abu Abdallah as (imam Jafar ibn Muhammad) when the Qaim from our progeny rises, he will kill without mercy. Blood will pour like rivers through the streets of. Kufa people who cried to the heavens this cannot be a man from the family of Muhammad for a few days from the family of Muhammad. He would’ve show mercy, but no mercy will come” 

Previous 13th of the 14th show showed mercy first and power when the 14th come he will show power then Mercy

In relation to the commentary … we send down the book to you that you may judge between the people, except those are false to their crest/trust … this refers to the fact that he will kill all the corrupt Sayyids Ulama and Sultan without mercy, mention to me from one of my teachers from his teacher from the mouth of our mentor Sayyid Khoy himself

When it said, the narration say people would have three days at the pitch tense, what that means is the people of doubt would be risen from the dead as well as the people who are alive will be given three days too, except the truth one of the senior scholars so I don’t have permission to name his name in the Iran mention after three days the first three days he calls to the truth after three days, he calls to the sword and eliminate all those who don’t accept truth 

It’s mentioned in various innovations he would kill all the Jews Ummayyads without mercy, some scholars have interpreted the Julius to be both the literal Jews or mostly hardhearted atheist, and the people who took on the characteristics of the Jews, being overly legal with no spirituality many scholars interpretive ummayyads to not only be a physical bloodline, but also those who have their habits were pleased with them who loved the two idols of the Corish in the subtenant remaining 10 Aimmah of the hellfire

The son of man mention in the Christian’s book is the 14th. It’s very clear. It said the son of man comes out with peace but the sword.

We can take the movie the remake of the day the Earth is still which I’ve seen once I randomly watched it with a neighbor in George. He invited me to watch it anyway there’s an interesting line. Are you a friend? Did you come in peace I am a friend of the Earth the 14th will wipe the Earth clean is the flooded in the time of Noah peace upon him he will lay waste to the kingdoms of men and destroy all those who worship the two idols all those who follow them all those who obey them those who obey the tyrannical and corrupt the enemies, and those were refused to accept true he will not give room for doubt he will not give time people will accept the truth or perish in the Earth will be a paradise for a time until disbeliever and hypocrites are gone from the lines of believers and he is and he himself is maytred then the return Whitaker and each of them would rule for 44,000 years till he ruled for 88,000 or more years than the world would end

There’s a certain group of scholars I don’t know about the west or conspiracy here but there’s a certain group of scholars in a rock in Iran that are painting him as a flower child who begs people I’m not gonna name that group, but they’re well-known. They have some odd beliefs about him. I saw one of their representatives in the Friday parasite that he would get on his hands and knees and cry, and beg people to accept the truth. I’m not saying what I heard I’m saying what I saw with my own eyes and heard with my

May his kingdom come, may we be worthy to aid and obey him may we return and dwell in his kingdom and Usher of these days may the kingdom of men fall in the will of Allah be done on earth

Oh Allah bless the 12 Leaders of guidance and curse the 12 Leaders of misguidance and make us of the followers of the 12 leaders of guidance from among the 14 and let us see the f fulfillment of the verse …. And the great kingdom…. For vote for theirs  is the kingdom of return.

wallahu Alam 

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This is why I warn the brothers to take caution when they say, "May Allah hasten his return"... you are mindlessly repeating something you heard your forefathers say... what you utter is a very weighty statement and 99% of us are not ready for his return, appearance, reappearance, revolt, revolution, uprising, insurrection etc.... al-Qa'im's (peace be upon him) reappearance is inseparable from global devastation... it's like saying, "Allah hasten the Malhama", "Allah hasten 5 out of every 7 people being killed on the Earth", "Allah hasten the flood of Noah" etc.... be my guest... wish for whatever you want... but know the gravity of what you're wishing for... peace 

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9 hours ago, Abu Hassanain said:

he is and he himself is maytred then the return Whitaker and each of them would rule for 44,000 years till he ruled for 88,000 or more years than the world would end

This is interesting... can you please elaborate further on this? Is this period of time based on solid narrations or the opinion of certain scholars or what exactly? 44,000 - 88,000 years is a stupendous period of time... doesn't certain hadith say he (i.e. Mahdi) will rule for 7 or 9 years but each day will be as 10,000 days or something like this? Explain please...

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1 hour ago, Eddie Mecca said:

doesn't certain hadith say he (i.e. Mahdi) will rule for 7 or 9 years but each day will be as 10,000 days or something like this?

The Period of Rule:

Regarding the period of rule of al-Mahdi (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف), there are various hadiths existing in both Sunni and Shi‘ah sources. Some hadiths limit the period of Imam al-Mahdi’s (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) rule to seven years. Others mention eight, nine, ten, or twenty years while there are even hadiths that say one thousand years. What is certain is that the government of Hadrat al-Mahdi (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) will not be less than seven years, and this period has been emphasized in some hadiths reported from the Imams (‘a).

Perhaps it can be said that the period of rule would be seven years, but the length of a year at that time will be different from ours, as indicated in some hadiths such as the following:

“His rule will be seven years and each year is equivalent to ten of your years. Therefore, the years of his rule will be equivalent to your seventy years.”38

Imam ‘Ali (‘a) said: “Hadrat al-Mahdi (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) will rule for seven years; every year in that time will be equal to ten years of yours.”39

The Holy Messenger of Allah (S) said: “The Mahdi (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) is from us… and for seven years he will take charge of affairs.”40

The Prophet (S) also said: “He will rule for seven years over this ummah.”41

The Messenger of Allah (S) also said elsewhere: “The tenure of rule of al-Mahdi (S) will be seven years at the shortest or it will last for eight or nine years at the longest.”42 It has also been reported: “Hadrat al-Mahdi (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) will rule in this world for nine years.”43

Jabir ibn ‘Abdullah al-Ansari asked Imam al-Baqir (‘a): “How many years will the Imam of the Time (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) live?” The Imam (‘a) replied: “From the day of the uprising till his demise will be nineteen years long.”44

The Messenger of Allah (S) said: “Hadrat al-Mahdi (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) will rule for twenty years. He will take out the treasures from the ground; he will conquer the lands of polytheism.”45

He (S) also said: “The Mahdi (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) is from my progeny and he will rule for twenty years.”46
It has also been reported: “The Imam (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) will rule for ten years.”47

In answer to the question on how many years the Mahdi (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) will rule, Hadrat ‘Ali (‘a) said: “He will rule over the people for thirty or forty years.”48

Imam as-Sadiq (‘a) said: “Hadrat al-Mahdi (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) will be from my progeny and his age will be equal to that of Ibrahim Khalil ar-Rahman (Prophet Abraham) (‘a). He will appear at the age of eighty years and rule for forty years.”49

The same Imam (‘a) also said: “The tenure of Hadrat al-Qa’im’s (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) rule will be nineteen years and some months.”50

Imam al-Baqir (‘a) said: “Hadrat al-Qa’im (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) will rule for three hundred and nine years just as the Companions of the Cave stayed in the cave for the same period.”51

The late Majlisi said: “The hadiths regarding the Imam’s (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) period of rule must be explained under the following probabilities: Some hadiths refer to the entire period of rule while some others point to the period of stabilization and establishment. Some are based on the years and days that we are acquainted with while others are based on the years and days in the time of the Imam (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) which are long. God knows best the truth of the matter.”52

After mentioning the hadiths, the late Ayatullah Tabasi, my honorable father, gives preference to the hadith that propounds seven years, but he says: “It means that by the power of God, every year at that time will be equal to ten of our years

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15 hours ago, Abu Hassanain said:

Salam

it is narrated by Imam Abu Abdallah as (imam Jafar ibn Muhammad) when the Qaim from our progeny rises, he will kill without mercy. Blood will pour like rivers through the streets of. Kufa people who cried to the heavens this cannot be a man from the family of Muhammad for a few days from the family of Muhammad. He would’ve show mercy, but no mercy will come” 

Previous 13th of the 14th show showed mercy first and power when the 14th come he will show power then Mercy

Salam respectfully all of such hadiths about mass killing of people are too weak hadiths which all narrators of these hadith inchain of hadith are too weak or unreliable narrators likewise 

 

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The usurping rulers and caliphs, who were in fact the real enemies of Islam and Muslims, also encouraged the hadith makers by giving huge bribes to help them achieve their sinister goals and legitimize their illegitimate governments by forging hadiths.

This situation prevailed in the Islamic society for hundreds of years; to the point where hundreds of thousands of fake hadiths were spread in the Islamic society and completely contaminated the atmosphere of belief and religion.

It is natural that Mahdism, as a definite belief of Muslims, was no exception to this rule and was not safe from this unclean virus.

Many people throughout history have claimed Mahdism by forging hadiths or forging titles and called themselves the saviors of the end times. To justify their actions, these oppressive and usurping rulers tried to forge narrations and attribute the same actions and behavior to the Prophet of Allah and his household, in order to tell Muslims that if we do these things, the Prophet of God also did them and the Promised Mahdi will also do them.

The narrations of the killing of people by Hazrat Mahdi (may Allah grant him peace) are also such narrations. To justify their crimes, tyrannical and oppressive rulers have fabricated narrations that there is no problem in killing people to advance the goals of Islam; just as Hazrat Mahdi (may Allah hasten his appearance) will kill many people to implement Islamic laws and universalize the religion of Islam.

In short, the fabricators of these narrations have pursued two basic goals.

Their first goal has been to scare people away from Hazrat Mahdi (may Allah hasten his appearance) and the Ahlul Bayt of the Prophet (peace be upon him) and to tarnish the image of those pure lights.

Their other goal is to justify their own actions and legitimize the crimes they have committed to gain worldly power and wealth.

 

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قَالَ حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ الْقَاسِمِ بْنِ عُبَیْدٍ مُعَنْعَناً عَنْ اَبِی عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع فِی قَوْلِ اللَّهِ تَعَالَی... «وَ اِنَّ لَنا لَلْآخِرَةَ وَ الْاُولی فَاَنْذَرْتُکُمْ ناراً تَلَظَّی» الْقَائِمُ [ص] اِذَا قَامَ بِالْغَضَبِ فَقَتَلَ مِنْ کُلِّ اَلْفٍ تِسْعَمِائَةٍ وَ تِسْعَةً وَ تِسْعِینَ....

Muhammad ibn Qasim ibn Ubayd, in a manner that has been mentioned by his teachers, has said from Imam Sadiq ((عليه السلام).) about the statement of Allah: “And the Hereafter and this world are Ours, and I warn you of a blazing fire,” which means that the Qaim ((عليه السلام).) will kill 999 out of every thousand people when he rises in anger.
This narration is weak in terms of chain of transmission, because apart from the fact that Furat ibn Ibrahim himself does not have any confirmation, there are several other problems in the chain of transmission of this narration:
First: Muhammad ibn Qasim ibn Ubayd himself is unknown and his name is not mentioned in any of the Shiite books of Rijal; as Sheikh Ali Namazi writes in Mustadrakat: 14323. Muhammad ibn Qasim ibn Ubayd al-Kubaidi: They did not mention him....[2]
Second: Muhammad ibn Qasim narrated this narration in a manner that is, he narrated from so-and-so from so-and-so; But the names of these people are not mentioned here or in the introduction to Tafsir al-Furat in order to examine and prove their reliability or lack of reliability.

Therefore, the evidence of this narration is weak and a weak narration is not worth citing.

 

 

Sharafa aldin Astar abadi in book of Ta;vil al Ayat has mnetioned :

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جَاءَ مَرْفُوعاً عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ شِمْرٍ عَنْ جَابِرِ بْنِ یَزِیدَ عَنْ اَبِی عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع فِی قَوْلِ اللَّهِ عَزَّ وَ جَلَ... وَ اِنَّ لَنا لَلْآخِرَةَ وَ الْاُولی فَاَنْذَرْتُکُمْ ناراً تَلَظَّی قَالَ هُوَ الْقَائِمُ اِذَا قَامَ بِالْغَضَبِ وَ یَقْتُلُ مِنْ کُلِّ اَلْفٍ تِسْعَ مِائَةٍ وَ تِسْعَةً وَ تِسْعِینَ...

This narration is narrated in a Marfu’  manner from Amr ibn Shimr.

A Marfu’  narration from the Shia point of view means a narration whose chain of transmission is interrupted and the author of the book or a subsequent narrator narrates it with the word “Rifa’ah” or “Marfu’ah”. For example: Muhammad ibn Ya’qub al-Kulaini rafa’ah from al-Sadiq ((عليه السلام).).
A Marfu’ah narration is equivalent to a broken chain of transmission from the Sunni point of view and has no value as a reference or argument.
Secondly: Mr. Amr ibn Shimr himself, from whom the narration is narrated in a Marfu’ah manner, is weak; the late Najashi writes about him in his Rijal:
Amr ibn Shimr Abu Abdullah al-Ju’fi Arabi, narrated from Abu Abdullah ((عليه السلام).), very weak, Zaid hadiths in the books of Jabir al-Ju’fi are attributed to him, and the matter is ambiguous.[4]
Amr ibn Shimr, who narrated a narration from Imam Sadiq ((عليه السلام).), is very weak. He added hadiths to Jabir al-Jufi’s books and attributed some of them to Jabir, which led to falsification and mistakes.


Conclusion: These hadiths are weak in terms of chain of transmission, and relying on a weak hadith either indicates the person’s lack of knowledge or his hatred and grudge against the Imam of the Age (may Allah hasten his appearance).

https://fa.wikifeqh.ir/شبهه_کشتار_وسیع_امام_زمان

 

6 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

This is why I warn the brothers to take caution when they say, "May Allah hasten his return"... you are mindlessly repeating something you heard your forefathers say... what you utter is a very weighty statement and 99% of us are not ready for his return, appearance, reappearance, revolt, revolution, uprising, insurrection etc.... al-Qa'im's (peace be upon him) reappearance is inseparable from global devastation... it's like saying, "Allah hasten the Malhama", "Allah hasten 5 out of every 7 people being killed on the Earth", "Allah hasten the flood of Noah" etc.... be my guest... wish for whatever you want... but know the gravity of what you're wishing for... peace 

Such statement likewise wise Malhama  & kiiling people on earth  & etc just has came from misunderstanding or lack of knowledge .

What are the causes of the reappearance of the Imam of Time (atf)?

https://islamquest.net/en/archive/fa583

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4 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

This is interesting... can you please elaborate further on this? Is this period of time based on solid narrations or the opinion of certain scholars or what exactly? 44,000 - 88,000 years is a stupendous period of time... doesn't certain hadith say he (i.e. Mahdi) will rule for 7 or 9 years but each day will be as 10,000 days or something like this? Explain please...

Salam

this is talking about the role in the kingdom of return

There’s a narration in ocean and light dimension during his second life, the holy prophet, peace and blessing upon for 50,000 years and the commander of the faithful rule for 40,000 years 

There’s also a narration that mentions each of the masum would rule for 44,000 that’s volume 52 or 53

The seventh guide ruled for 35 years as and Imam as first ruler said to be seven or 19 years each like 10 or 100 his minimum rule being 70 years in the first kingdom Imam as some scholars  have discussed the minimum role of the 12th luminary as would be double that the kingdom of return it would be 88,000 years and some have said like his first rule each year is 10 or 100 years it would be it could be 880,000 years or 8.8 million years 

wallahu Alam 

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3 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

The Period of Rule:

Regarding the period of rule of al-Mahdi (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف), there are various hadiths existing in both Sunni and Shi‘ah sources. Some hadiths limit the period of Imam al-Mahdi’s (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) rule to seven years. Others mention eight, nine, ten, or twenty years while there are even hadiths that say one thousand years. What is certain is that the government of Hadrat al-Mahdi (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) will not be less than seven years, and this period has been emphasized in some hadiths reported from the Imams (‘a).

Perhaps it can be said that the period of rule would be seven years, but the length of a year at that time will be different from ours, as indicated in some hadiths such as the following:

“His rule will be seven years and each year is equivalent to ten of your years. Therefore, the years of his rule will be equivalent to your seventy years.”38

Imam ‘Ali (‘a) said: “Hadrat al-Mahdi (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) will rule for seven years; every year in that time will be equal to ten years of yours.”39

The Holy Messenger of Allah (S) said: “The Mahdi (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) is from us… and for seven years he will take charge of affairs.”40

The Prophet (S) also said: “He will rule for seven years over this ummah.”41

The Messenger of Allah (S) also said elsewhere: “The tenure of rule of al-Mahdi (S) will be seven years at the shortest or it will last for eight or nine years at the longest.”42 It has also been reported: “Hadrat al-Mahdi (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) will rule in this world for nine years.”43

Jabir ibn ‘Abdullah al-Ansari asked Imam al-Baqir (‘a): “How many years will the Imam of the Time (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) live?” The Imam (‘a) replied: “From the day of the uprising till his demise will be nineteen years long.”44

The Messenger of Allah (S) said: “Hadrat al-Mahdi (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) will rule for twenty years. He will take out the treasures from the ground; he will conquer the lands of polytheism.”45

He (S) also said: “The Mahdi (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) is from my progeny and he will rule for twenty years.”46
It has also been reported: “The Imam (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) will rule for ten years.”47

In answer to the question on how many years the Mahdi (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) will rule, Hadrat ‘Ali (‘a) said: “He will rule over the people for thirty or forty years.”48

Imam as-Sadiq (‘a) said: “Hadrat al-Mahdi (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) will be from my progeny and his age will be equal to that of Ibrahim Khalil ar-Rahman (Prophet Abraham) (‘a). He will appear at the age of eighty years and rule for forty years.”49

The same Imam (‘a) also said: “The tenure of Hadrat al-Qa’im’s (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) rule will be nineteen years and some months.”50

Imam al-Baqir (‘a) said: “Hadrat al-Qa’im (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) will rule for three hundred and nine years just as the Companions of the Cave stayed in the cave for the same period.”51

The late Majlisi said: “The hadiths regarding the Imam’s (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) period of rule must be explained under the following probabilities: Some hadiths refer to the entire period of rule while some others point to the period of stabilization and establishment. Some are based on the years and days that we are acquainted with while others are based on the years and days in the time of the Imam (‘عجّل الله تعالى فرجه الشريف) which are long. God knows best the truth of the matter.”52

After mentioning the hadiths, the late Ayatullah Tabasi, my honorable father, gives preference to the hadith that propounds seven years, but he says: “It means that by the power of God, every year at that time will be equal to ten of our years

Salam

these narrations are authentic, but they relate to his first rule

This has to do with him killing the Satan for the first time enrolling for seven or 19 years that are like 10 or 100 years each

He would kill all the hypocrites and disbeliever to hypocrites and dis believers are born from the lines of believers, and a hypocrite kills him by smashing his skull with a rock from behind

Because of the narration, there is none of us from the holy family, but we die by poison or the sword

After that, he would return on the 13 would come out

They said debate as to whether they’d return during his first kingdom and pray behind him, and it’s all alluded to in discussions on the verse about Joseph, the sun, the moon, and the 11 stars some Skyler saying that indicates all of the previous infallible would pray behind him in his first kingdom

Satan would return to life again in this time, be killed for the second time by the holy prophet, peace, and blessing be upon him

The often confuse narration of Imam Sadiq as I am the guided one I’m not the guided one you’re looking for the guiding one you’re looking for a smile sixth descendent after him he passes the flag to 12 Mahdi as 

This has to do with rajah 

This refers to the fact that after his first death leader rulership  go to the holy prophet, then the commander of the faithful and Hassan and Hussein and Sajad and baqir and Sadiq and Khadhim and Ridha and Jawad and Hadi and Asariki each rolling for 44,000 years then it will return to Al Mahdi as for his second rule in rajah 

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On 2/4/2026 at 10:02 AM, Eddie Mecca said:

 

His approach and style, very sorry to say, reminds me of the derisive and scornful Najdī Takfīrī ideologues I used to read and listen to in my days of Wahhābī extremism; that dismissive and disdainful temperament I've been too familiar with that makes one loose-tongued to the extent that he forgets the required adab when talking about Allāh and His affairs.

I listened to the complete discussion, the ridiculing of the acts of ‘ibādah and the signs of humility before Allāh was absolutely not required at all, rather was no different from how I've seen Khawārij make fun of tazkiyah and ‘irfān and just focussing on warlike pursuits as the primary concern of the divine revelation.

The host had to take the pain of getting him to stop from using foul language in what was perhaps intended to be an academic discussion. I've never ever seen any Shia scholar talk like that before, a world apart from the lofty, qualitative, heart-moving wonderful words that come from the mouths of the likes of Imam Khamenei (رضي الله عنه) and Hassan Nasrallah (رضي الله عنه).

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@Ashvazdanghe, Salaam... so you're telling me that all the Ilm al-rijāl scholars are in agreement that all these narrations that portray al-Qa'im in an aggressive light are fabricated... or is there a difference of opinion on the matter?

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salam

@Ashvazdanghe @Eddie Mecca @ServantOfMahdi

so i am running to an appointment but i will add this,

Agha Ash you have made a revelant point about many including majority of modern ulama weakening thus hadith. however i caution in this approach as in the same way Sayyid Khoy weakened khutba mina and rejected waliyat ul faqih al muqtalh based on one weak narrator due to strict rijal. if these hadith are wqeak, misunderstood or false, than alhamduallah, if not alhamduallah. the way we are going we may find out in our lifetime which group of ulama is right. thank you for you inputr and effort, neither veiw puts ones aqaidah wa kalam out of the bounds so may both our efforts be accepted.

Agha Eddie it comes down to era, school or strictness of rijaal. Scholars in the early era collected hadith without neccesarily endorsing them, to an extent up until the 1600s. So shaikh kulayni, Saduq, Tusi, Mufed, Alam Huda, Raidi, Hilli 1 and 2, Karaiki are mostly silent on this. Those scholars that tended to openly support these had a less stricter standard of rijal, were open lenient on qaren (clue), imarah (indiction), history narrations sdaying weak hadith could be taken as aqadiah vs fiqh etc, they included Shaikh Majalisi 1 and 2, Behbaini, Fayyad Kashaini, Fathi Kashaini, Sayyid "mikyal makarim" muhammad taqi Mirza Hussayn Nuri, Sayyid Hassan Ruhaini, Sayyid Sadiq Ruhaini, and possibly Shaikh Wahid (wallahu alam )We should note that alot of previouysly unknown books that one group says were hidden due to taqiya, and another calls farbications like najhlul israr sources, sulaym qays, etc emerged during this time. the scholars who opposed these narrations were Shaikh Muhammad Hassan Najafi, Naini, Khoy, ISHAQ FAYYAD, JAWUD AMOLI, FADL LANKRAINI, MUHAMMAD LANRAIKI, muhammad and sadfiq shirazi, muihsan hakim, saieed hakim, nasr makarim, subhani, baqir irqaini, saenei, nuri hamdani, fadlallah, burjuedi, abdul karim heri, khamenei, bashir najafi, and hubballah . those whose veiw is ambigous is the 1st 2 maytrs, khumanyi, the 2 gulpygani, shaikh wahid, the 2 jawad tabrizi, sayyid mb sadr, etc speakers are divided based on their teachers sayyid abbas aleya mehdi asghar musawi support the harsher veiw where as kashrimi berri ellahi sahlaini mehbub support the softer veiw.

Agha Servant of Mahdi i am aware of the differences so i didnt watch the whole video. many shayuq and ulama have to overcome upbringing i dont know where he was born or much about him, i dont put much vaule in podcast raido show vs majalis and classes, never heasrd of him til shiachat, and i get around so wallahu alam. 

May the Qaim as come quick, and may we help to usher in his days 

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22 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

This is why I warn the brothers to take caution when they say, "May Allah hasten his return"... you are mindlessly repeating something you heard your forefathers say... what you utter is a very weighty statement and 99% of us are not ready for his return, appearance, reappearance, revolt, revolution, uprising, insurrection etc.... al-Qa'im's (peace be upon him) reappearance is inseparable from global devastation... it's like saying, "Allah hasten the Malhama", "Allah hasten 5 out of every 7 people being killed on the Earth", "Allah hasten the flood of Noah" etc.... be my guest... wish for whatever you want... but know the gravity of what you're wishing for... peace 

Salaam Aleikum, 

People love for their Imam (عليه السلام) and already seeing how hellish the world have become, cause them utter the words for the justice to already appear. Their intentions have nothing to do for wanting to haste more evil to happen. 

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