The Yamani, Sufyani & Khurasani Uprisings starting on the same date?

[ServantOfMahdi]

A fulfilled prophecy?

 

Edited January 11 by ServantOfMahdi

[guest 2025]

Salam. No. This is all way too much of a stretch. When these figures rise you will know because even a non-Muslim won't be able to deny it from how obvious it is. 

I'm waiting for a hideous man with blue eyes and light hair to take over Syria and the nearby countries. Then he would need to invade Kufa (which is central Iraq not southern) and Iraq in general. And he would need to commit a genocide against Shias in several countries.

When I see that, I will start to think that these figures have risen. Until then, it's dangerous speculation. 

[ServantOfMahdi]

وماعليناإلاالبلاغ

[ServantOfMahdi]

6 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

even a non-Muslim won't be able to deny it from how obvious it is

Even the most obvious event—the Reappearance of al-Qāʾim (عليه السلام)—will be denied by many Muslims. If that is the case, then what can be expected regarding these events, which are merely signs indicating that the Reappearance has drawn near? They are even more likely to be denied.

6 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

Kufa (which is central Iraq not southern)

 

6 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

And he would need to commit a genocide against Shias in several countries.

Anti-Shia pogroms define the leadership of both the first Sufyānī and the second Sufyānī in the prophecies, with those occurring in the time of the second Sufyānī being more widespread and more intense.

One prophecy from Imam Jaʿfar al-Ṣādiq (عليه السلام) predicts that the uprisings of the Sufyānī, the Yamānī, and the Khurāsānī would begin on the same date—something that occurred on the day of the US invasion of Iraq.

Another prophecy from Imam al-Bāqir (عليه السلام) foretells the raising of the Khurāsānī banner, followed by the raising of the Yamānī banner, after which the Sufyānī banner would be raised. This corresponds to the following three revolutions: the Iranian Islamic Revolution (1979), the Yemeni Zaydist Houthi Revolution (2014), and the Syrian Wahhābī HTS revolution (2024).

The battles between the first Sufyānī and the Khurāsānī’s general, Shuʿayb ibn Ṣāliḥ, have already taken place during the Iraq War.

What remains are the second Sufyānī’s anti-Shia pogroms, the second Yamānī’s campaigns against him, and, at the height of this conflict, the Reappearance of Ṣāḥib al-Amr (عليه السلام) in Mecca.

The three movements—Khurāsānī, Yamānī, and Sufyānī—have already been present and have shaped the wars in Iraq, Yemen, and Syria. As the prophecies continue to be gradually fulfilled, the foretold Khurāsānī-Yamānī alliance against the Sufyānī—identified as the Iran–Houthi Yemen alliance versus Wahhābī Syria—is already in place and is now steadily moving toward the final confrontation that precedes the Reappearance of the Imam (عليه السلام).

And Allah knows best.

 

Edited January 12 by ServantOfMahdi

[Abu Hassanain]

Salam

I don’t want to disappoint anyone, but this event I was a very specific timeline in every generation which is the third year of lunar cycle. There are three possibilities for these figures if they align at the same time then the chain reaction begins.

That is why it’s mentioned by the infallible themselves in our scholars of the last luminary is not even aware of the time of his coming if these figures were fixed, he would know because it’s flexible he too awaits for us to prepare the way for his kingdom

Sufayni would rise in the month of Rajab then shortly after he would conquer Syria, what we call the lawant Arabia Iraq, and attack parts of Persia he would kill slaughter and mutilate burn with fire and oil the Shia black flags within about at the halfway .2 or three months it’s speculated rise from the east i.e. khursan . Khursani will fight sufayni at Kufa 

than closer towards Mahdi as maybe 4 or 5 month Yamani will rise and fight sufayni outside Makkah 

15 days before the uprising being six months after sufayni comess a descendent of Imam Hassan as peace on him will be killed between the south wall of the kaba and the pillar of Abraham, Allah will become angry as never before and after 15 days, the upper riser will rise. The killing will occur on the 25th. Of Dhul Hijjrah the authorizer will rise. On Ashura 

He will fight the sufayni for two months and slay him

After that 124,000 profits, all the true believers and the people of doubt would lie they would come to pledge allegiance at him to him when he pinches pitch his tense in Kufa you will go to the truth for three days. Then he calls to the sword you will fight the enemies of gods and his against his arm to the north south east and west until depression is no more, and the law of God reigns upon the Earth.

There is a dispute whether 313 would be the blood sacrifice in the war between the two cities of hijab, or they would become great generals. The view I take is that that would be the army who has killed, and then Arlito race his hands to the sky in the Earth with his enemies alone survivor would run back to Syria and tear telling what happens happened.

He would roll for seven or 19 years that are like 10 or 100 years. Hypocrites will be born from the lines of believers again and he would be killed by hypocrite after that he would return he would hand the flag to the 12 guides being the profit in the first 11 guides each of them would rule for 44,000 years that he would rule for 88,000 to 8.8 million years after that, the world would end between an hour and 40 days later 

wallahu Alam 

[guest 2025]

20 hours ago, ServantOfMahdi said:

Even the most obvious event—the Reappearance of al-Qāʾim (عليه السلام)—will be denied by many Muslims. If that is the case, then what can be expected regarding these events, which are merely signs indicating that the Reappearance has drawn near? They are even more likely to be denied.

You have a point there.

 

20 hours ago, ServantOfMahdi said:

Southern Iraq is Basra or Nasiriyah and such, nobody considers Kufa to be southern Iraq. They even lack the southern Iraqi accent.

20 hours ago, ServantOfMahdi said:

Anti-Shia pogroms define the leadership of both the first Sufyānī and the second Sufyānī in the prophecies, with those occurring in the time of the second Sufyānī being more widespread and more intense.

One prophecy from Imam Jaʿfar al-Ṣādiq (عليه السلام) predicts that the uprisings of the Sufyānī, the Yamānī, and the Khurāsānī would begin on the same date—something that occurred on the day of the US invasion of Iraq.

Another prophecy from Imam al-Bāqir (عليه السلام) foretells the raising of the Khurāsānī banner, followed by the raising of the Yamānī banner, after which the Sufyānī banner would be raised. This corresponds to the following three revolutions: the Iranian Islamic Revolution (1979), the Yemeni Zaydist Houthi Revolution (2014), and the Syrian Wahhābī HTS revolution (2024).

The battles between the first Sufyānī and the Khurāsānī’s general, Shuʿayb ibn Ṣāliḥ, have already taken place during the Iraq War.

With all due respec:t No brother there is no first second or third Yamani/Khorasani/Suffyani. This way of thinking reminds me of Abdullah Hashem who claims he's Imam Mahid 1 out of 12, and that the first Yamani has come. There is no minor or major Suffyani. It's just one man who has a set of very specific characteristics that noone has met yet. And the most obvious issue is that none of the people who headed the US invasion are descendants of Sufyan l.a. They don't even have a drop of Levantine blood.

 

Do I believe Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام) is near? Yes, iA. Am I the kind to reject signs? No, and people close criticize me for that. But this is just way too much of a stretch. 

The Suffyani will be an ugly man with acne scars who will take over Syria after a period of unrest. Some say he will appear after a major earthquake in the region. He will have an Aryan complexion and will be astonishing cruel. He will take over Syria and the surrounding countries. When we see that, we can begin to speak with confidence. That's it. There is no Suffyani 1 and Suffyani 2. 

[ServantOfMahdi]

2 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

No brother there is no first second or third Yamani/Khorasani/Suffyani. This way of thinking

With all due respect: That (two Sufyānīs and two Yamānīs) is not my way of thinking my dear brother, that's what many narrations prove; and one's not knowing something doesn't make it non-existent, and when narrations have been presented, the cautious approach is to avoid straight denial and instead express one's unknowing of the basis of the other's claim.

2 Sufyānīs: Multiple narrations in Kitāb al-Fitan of Nu‘aym ibn Ḥammād are explicit in stating this, which have been summarised in the relevant videos posted above (you can research if you like to:

https://www.scribd.com/document/378445646/Kitab-al-Fitan-of-Nuaym-b-Hammad (Arabic)

https://ia801709.us.archive.org/12/items/kitaab-al-fitan/book.pdf (English))

All the signs of the 1st Sufyānī have matched Zarqāwī لعنہ ﷲ.

2 Yamānīs: Some prophecies mention the Yamani's being martyred before the Reappearance of al-Qāim, while some mention the Yamānī meeting al-Qāim; since it's a title, not a person's name, like Fir‘awn (Pharaoh) was a title which in the Qur’ān has been used for two related persons, but apparently, especially to someone not well versed in tafsīr and history, seems to be a name of a single person, likewise narrations suggest the use of the title Yamānī for two related persons.

 

 

All the signs of the 1st Yamānī have matched Sayyid Ḥusayn al-Ḥūthī al-Shahīd (رضي الله عنه).

2 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

Southern Iraq is Basra or Nasiriyah and such, nobody considers Kufa to be southern Iraq. They even lack the southern Iraqi accent.

Vali Nasr does in his "The Shia Revival", while calling Basra's location "the far south"; geography and cardinal directions are independent of dialects and accents; moreover the mention of Kūfah in the prophecies is understood to refer to the broader region (the province named so in the Imams' times, with central Iraq mentioned as Zawrā), not only that particular city.

2 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

none of the people who headed the US invasion are descendants of Sufyan l.a.

I don't know where in any of the videos this has been claimed? May be you were in a hurry to express your disagreement and avoided attending to relevant details important even for a sound rebuttal.

3 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

Do I believe Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام) is near? Yes, iA. Am I the kind to reject signs? No, and people close criticize me for that.

We are here in the same boat.

3 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

But this is just way too much of a stretch. 

What's that stretch? Zarqāwī, Ḥusayn al-Ḥūthī & Iran launching those of their operations on the same date that went on to reshape the whole of the Middle East as we see it today, continuing and progressing towards the final showdown?

3 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

The Suffyani will be an ugly man with acne scars who will take over Syria after a period of unrest. Some say he will appear after a major earthquake in the region. He will have an Aryan complexion and will be astonishing cruel. He will take over Syria and the surrounding countries. When we see that, we can begin to speak with confidence. That's it. There is no Suffyani 1 and Suffyani 2. 

Narrations about the personal characteristics of the Sufyānī are contradictory, and the only way to reconcile is to bring in the narrations talking explicitly about two Sufyānīs. As for the prophesied anti-Shia pogroms by the 2nd Sufyānī, they will occur in the times of the conquest of Ḥijāz by the 2nd Yamānī.

[guest 2025]

21 hours ago, ServantOfMahdi said:

Narrations about the personal characteristics of the Sufyānī are contradictory, and the only way to reconcile is to bring in the narrations talking explicitly about two Sufyānīs. As for the prophesied anti-Shia pogroms by the 2nd Sufyānī, they will occur in the times of the conquest of Ḥijāz by the 2nd Yamānī.

It seems like the last paragraph clarifies a lot. When you have contradictory hadiths, then you know at least one is wrong. You shouldn't try to reconcile them. Like there's contradictory narrations about how exactly Prophet Lot (عليه السلام) escaped from his city. Does this mean there are multiple Lots who all had a similar mission, and the final Lot is the greater Lot? There's narrations that say Nabi Adam was this tall, and others that say he was that tall. All this means is that one or both are wrong. Same with the Yamani narrations. If there is contradiction, then you know that something is inauthentic. 

22 hours ago, ServantOfMahdi said:

With all due respect: That (two Sufyānīs and two Yamānīs) is not my way of thinking my dear brother, that's what many narrations prove; and one's not knowing something doesn't make it non-existent, and when narrations have been presented, the cautious approach is to avoid straight denial and instead express one's unknowing of the basis of the other's claim.

2 Sufyānīs: Multiple narrations in Kitāb al-Fitan of Nu‘aym ibn Ḥammād are explicit in stating this, which have been summarised in the relevant videos posted above (you can research if you like to:

https://www.scribd.com/document/378445646/Kitab-al-Fitan-of-Nuaym-b-Hammad (Arabic)

https://ia801709.us.archive.org/12/items/kitaab-al-fitan/book.pdf (English))

All the signs of the 1st Sufyānī have matched Zarqāwī لعنہ ﷲ.

2 Yamānīs: Some prophecies mention the Yamani's being martyred before the Reappearance of al-Qāim, while some mention the Yamānī meeting al-Qāim; since it's a title, not a person's name, like Fir‘awn (Pharaoh) was a title which in the Qur’ān has been used for two related persons, but apparently, especially to someone not well versed in tafsīr and history, seems to be a name of a single person, likewise narrations suggest the use of the title Yamānī for two related persons.

 

 

All the signs of the 1st Yamānī have matched Sayyid Ḥusayn al-Ḥūthī al-Shahīd (رضي الله عنه).

I opened the book, CTR F'd the term 'Sufyan,' and got about 177 hits. Then I combed through each occurrence of the term trying to get an idea of what this book says about the Sufyani. 

First of all, this book is full of contradictions. But that is only because it is a collection of narrations. This is nothing unusual. But after reading it it seems that your theory is still a serious stretch. First of all Zarqawi is not, according to this book, the Sufyani (minor or major). If that were the case then his son would have to be the major one right after him. And Zarqawi would need to die from throat cancer. And the language used in this book indicates he would need to truly take over a land and as a ruler. From my understanding Zarqawi was mostly a boogeyman created by the US. Yes he was a major terrorist, but his purpose was to be used as an excuse to justify the war on terror.

The indication that there are multiple Sufyanis stems from a couple narrations that say there will be a Sufyani who will get throat cancer and die, then his son Abdallah b. Yazid will rule? But then it says that the Sufyani will pledge allegience to Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام), then get killed after taking back his oath. 

 

That YouTube video is just a humble offering of a theory, from what I've understood through translation. You should give us solid evidence. We need to see the narrations along with their grading. And I would also like to see where this narration came from that says a Khorasani ruler with a paralyzed right hand will give Imam Mahdi a flag with his left hand. Can you help us @ash?

 

I did not go through the Yamani because I don't have time. Just checking this book for the Sufyani took about an hour. 

22 hours ago, ServantOfMahdi said:

Vali Nasr does in his "The Shia Revival", while calling Basra's location "the far south"; geography and cardinal directions are independent of dialects and accents; moreover the mention of Kūfah in the prophecies is understood to refer to the broader region (the province named so in the Imams' times, with central Iraq mentioned as Zawrā), not only that particular city.

We can agree to disagree. As a Iraqi I know we don't consider Kufa to be south we consider it central.

 

22 hours ago, ServantOfMahdi said:

What's that stretch? Zarqāwī, Ḥusayn al-Ḥūthī & Iran launching those of their operations on the same date that went on to reshape the whole of the Middle East as we see it today, continuing and progressing towards the final showdown?

Then what is this date? August 23? March 12? And do you think that this grand narration of these 3 was referring to the supposed minor ones instead of the major ones? Or maybe you think it's for both? 

 

We're just going to have to agree to disagree. I think this is all way too much of a stretch. 

[ServantOfMahdi]

5 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

When you have contradictory hadiths, then you know at least one is wrong. You shouldn't try to reconcile them. Like there's contradictory narrations about how exactly Prophet Lot (عليه السلام) escaped from his city. Does this mean there are multiple Lots who all had a similar mission, and the final Lot is the greater Lot? There's narrations that say Nabi Adam was this tall, and others that say he was that tall. All this means is that one or both are wrong. Same with the Yamani narrations. If there is contradiction, then you know that something is inauthentic. 

An extremely misleading comparison brother, sorry to say, but you're deliberately ignoring the stated fact that narrations explicitly talking about 2 Sufyānīs do exist. Neither Adam & Lot are titles, nor are there any narrations explicitly stating that two Prophets had the same name (Adam or Lot). Whereas, both Sufyānī & Yamānī are titles. I'm giving just two examples here of two-Sufyānī narrations:

 

As for Yamānīs being two, I've already shown you above it's a scholarly opinion not just a layman claim. Doesn't the Qur'ān mention historically two individuals—without specifying—with the same title Fir‘awn (Pharaoh) , which if (wrongly) taken as a name, can lead one to deny the historical fact that the Fir‘awn of Mūsā (عليه السلام)'s childhood (Ramesses II) and the Fir‘awn of Exodus (& Drowning—Merneptah) were two different persons?

5 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

If there is contradiction, then you know that something is inauthentic. 

If narrations mentioning the same title Sufyānī contradict, and you know that many narrations explicitly state two Sufyānīs, then you know that one set of narrations talks of the 1st Sufyānī while the other of the 2nd Sufyānī—Period.

5 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

First of all Zarqawi is not, according to this book, the Sufyani (minor or major). If that were the case then his son would have to be the major one right after him.

To be referred to with the same title as of one's predecessor, does one really need to be his biological son? Not at all brother, that's your assumption with no sound basis. In Sūrah Yūsuf, the one in whose house Yūsuf (عليه السلام) reached adulthood has been mentioned as "al-‘Azīz", and in the same Sūrah, Yūsuf (عليه السلام) too has been mentioned as "al-‘Azīz" as a later holder of that same position of authority.

5 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

he would need to truly take over a land and as a ruler. From my understanding Zarqawi was mostly a boogeyman created by the US.

5 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

And Zarqawi would need to die from throat cancer.

5 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

That YouTube video is just a humble offering of a theory, from what I've understood through translation. You should give us solid evidence.

Some narrations just say قرحة, some say قرحة في خلفه (ulcer in his windpipe); for a rich analysis (from hometown to initial journey to rise to leadership period in Iraq to place, timing & way of death) of the 1st Sufyānī prophecies vis-à-vis Zarqāwī's profile (including how Zarqāwī actually died as per his autopsy):

 

The prophecies (Muhammadan & Biblical) concerning the first Sufyānī align with Zarqāwī’s personal details with an extraordinary level of precision—so personal, so particular, and so exact—that I have not seen anything comparable in the case of any other individual.

5 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

And I would also like to see where this narration came from that says a Khorasani ruler with a paralyzed right hand will give Imam Mahdi a flag with his left hand. Can you help us

I don't bear responsibilty to prove what I haven't claimed, nor do I know of any such narration with exactly these words. What I know & believe in regarding the Khurāsānī is this:

 

5 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

Then what is this date? August 23? March 12? And do you think that this grand narration of these 3 was referring to the supposed minor ones instead of the major ones? Or maybe you think it's for both? 

 

5 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

And do you think that this grand narration of these 3 was referring to the supposed minor ones instead of the major ones?

First & Second (Sufyānīs & Yamānīs) not minor & major. One narration talks of the rise of the three banners (revolutions) with their chronology, another talks about the three khurūj (military campaigns/uprisings) starting on the same date.

On 1/12/2026 at 11:09 AM, ServantOfMahdi said:

One prophecy from Imam Jaʿfar al-Ṣādiq (عليه السلام) predicts that the uprisings of the Sufyānī, the Yamānī, and the Khurāsānī would begin on the same date—something that occurred on the day of the US invasion of Iraq.

Another prophecy from Imam al-Bāqir (عليه السلام) foretells the raising of the Khurāsānī banner, followed by the raising of the Yamānī banner, after which the Sufyānī banner would be raised. This corresponds to the following three revolutions: the Iranian Islamic Revolution (1979), the Yemeni Zaydist Houthi Revolution (2014), and the Syrian Wahhābī HTS revolution (2024).

 

5 hours ago, guest 2025 said:

this is all way too much of a stretch. 

If that's too much of a stretch, then I wonder how all these grand watershed era-shaping events went unforetold in Islamic prophecies?

And Allah knows best.

[ServantOfMahdi]

 

On 1/14/2026 at 3:53 PM, ServantOfMahdi said:

narrations explicitly talking about 2 Sufyānīs do exist

https://youtu.be/XWv3DLtr5Cc?si=jbTGH7UrajN0W37j