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Out of the continuous brainwashing of American public, this is just one incident.  How this was made possible? only because Jews own USA.

How the Jews incessantly hammered the idea of a catastrophic event, 
how Jews themselves conducted 9/11 and got America to invade 7 Muslim countries and took over the remaining of West Bank and Gaza for the Jews and Israel.  

The Pillage of Palestine.  The series of continuous events. 

1979: Mossad founder Isser Harel allegedly predicts Islamic terror attack on NYC’s tallest buildings. (The Twin Towers). 

1979: Netanyahu organizes the first major international anti-terrorism conference.  (The looting of Palestine)

1986–1990s: Netanyahu publishes works preparing ideological foundations for a global “War on Terror.”  (The looting of Palestine)

1996: Richard Perle’s “Clean Break” advises Netanyahu to restructure the Middle East through pressure and fragmentation.

1997: Perle, Wolfowitz, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc., gather under PNAC to push for U.S. supremacy and Middle East regime change.

2000: PNAC’s “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” states transformation will be slow “without a new Pearl Harbor.”

2001: PNAC members enter the White House.  (The Jews got elected by American Public into White House to wage wars and plunder)

9/11 occurs nine months later.   (The Dancing Jews)

The U.S. begins wars exactly in the theaters outlined by “Clean Break” and PNAC.

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2 hours ago, GEU_40 said:

Please keep these forums clean from crackpot theories like "9/11 was an inside job". Shias have been maligned on the world stage more than enough at this point.

Salaam, just curious whats crackpot about these points mentioned in the above or is your concern regarding further alienation for shias on the world scene?

Jzk

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2 hours ago, PureExistence1 said:

Salaam, just curious whats crackpot about these points mentioned in the above or is your concern regarding further alienation for shias on the world scene?

Jzk

The general insinuation of these points, that Jews orchestrated 9/11.

And shias are hated these days for countless reasons related to recent geopolitics. Let's not add "supporters of old tinfoil theories" to the mix. Seriously, a lot of folks here have no idea.

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1 hour ago, GEU_40 said:

The general insinuation of these points, that Jews orchestrated 9/11.

And shias are hated these days for countless reasons related to recent geopolitics. Let's not add "supporters of old tinfoil theories" to the mix. Seriously, a lot of folks here have no idea.

:salam:

Dancing Israelis, brother. Dancing.

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10 hours ago, GEU_40 said:

Please keep these forums clean from crackpot theories like "9/11 was an inside job". Shias have been maligned on the world stage more than enough at this point.

Salam

if you look at a lot of the documentaries, they explain the temperature steel melts it how even if the steel didn’t melt if the building collapse, the top should’ve fell over sideways. The only way it could collapse straight down was a controlled demolition.

I was at the Pentagon for a voucher School choice conference as a young kid shortly after 911. The hole in the Pentagon was very small look like a cruise missile no way that could be from a 747.

there’s no way you can say for sure where a plane that crashed in Pennsylvania because of those brave souls who rose up was going to land it is said that it was possibly going to hit Congress, so Bush could declare martial law

The American security apparatus, President Bush, the bin Laden family, the Gulf monarchies the salafi malicious we’re all involved in other words, disbeliever helping disbeliever kill people

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5 hours ago, GEU_40 said:

The general insinuation of these points, that Jews orchestrated 9/11.

And shias are hated these days for countless reasons related to recent geopolitics. Let's not add "supporters of old tinfoil theories" to the mix. Seriously, a lot of folks here have no idea.

Salam

as for the dancing Israelis, I haven’t seen proof one way or another as for the fact that the official theory doesn’t line up for 911 much like Kennedy in Pearl Harbor there’s much facts behind that

We shouldn’t avoid criticizing the world Jewry and Zionist

Everything they discussed about doing in the protocols is happening

They want to destroy Shia Iran and the axis of the resistance, it leads as well as the European race because these are the two groups that can destroy Israel Africa, the subcontinent Asia won’t be able to resist and will be controlled economically same with lead in American the Caribbean China would most probably join in align them with a similar role to the role in the United States has now

The Babylonian cult masking as the children of Israel, under their latest name. Zionism is about a new form of the ancient enemy of our faith.

Wallahu Alam 

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2 hours ago, Abu Hassanain said:

The American security apparatus, President Bush, the bin Laden family, the Gulf monarchies the salafi malicious we’re all involved in other words, disbeliever helping disbeliever kill

One thing that was fishy to me is no one who claimed to kill Osama bin Laden took a picture of the body. It was just impulsively thrown in the sea allegedly.

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3 hours ago, Abu Hassanain said:

Salam

if you look at a lot of the documentaries

Salam. For the sake of your sanity, please stop watching documentaries. "Jet fuel can't melt steel beams" is a meme at this point.

 

8 hours ago, realizm said:

Dancing Israelis, brother. Dancing.

And it proves what, exactly? People all over the Muslim world danced. Reconsider your youtube playlist or wherever you get your news from.

 

1 hour ago, Essentials123 said:

One thing that was fishy to me is no one who claimed to kill Osama bin Laden took a picture of the body. It was just impulsively thrown in the sea allegedly.

Bin Laden is dead. He was a mass murdering terrorist who deserves absolutely no sympathy. He did 9/11. End of story. Please don't parrot these beliefs. Believing in half baked conspiracies has nothing to do with shia teachings.

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3 hours ago, GEU_40 said:

Salam. For the sake of your sanity, please stop watching documentaries. "Jet fuel can't melt steel beams" is a meme at this point.

 

And it proves what, exactly? People all over the Muslim world danced. Reconsider your youtube playlist or wherever you get your news from.

 

Bin Laden is dead. He was a mass murdering terrorist who deserves absolutely no sympathy. He did 9/11. End of story. Please don't parrot these beliefs. Believing in half baked conspiracies has nothing to do with shia teachings.

Salam

911 was masterminded by Khalid Shaikh Muhammad the specific attack was not planned by bin Laden Al Qaida these groups worked in cells.
 

bin Laden was the display at any rate because he didn’t accept the divine authority of the family of the prophet

la waliyah la tawhid la waliyah la risalah you can’t believe in the oneness of God if you don’t believe in the authority of the holy family because numerous versus particularly 17 8449, 555 etc. explicitly indicate it and you can’t believe in the profit of the profit without the authority of the family because the five narrations IMT is Moses was to Aaron about five places it was mentioned more than five narrations the over 100+ narrations and some sources indicate three or 400  on Ghadir him so the one who denies these verses, and these narrations denies God in his messenger

We don’t pronounce disbelief on the lay lpeople for this because they’re ignorant, but assured their scholars are disbelievers because they know the truth but hide it and those like bin Laden who were opposed the Shia in Malign are nawsaibi and kuffar 
 

The relationship between George Bush, the second and the bin Laden families as well documented, as well as the personal loans he received them

Roosevelt knew Pearl Harbor was coming. The people didn’t want to enter another world war he has to let it happen so he had an excuse for war 

Kennedy was going to affect real change. He was assassinated by powerful political forces to stop that.

The foundations of the US and part were based on a masonic war between the breakaway lodge in DC and the supreme Lodge in London

Also, well documented

Muslims were here before the whites anyway my wife’s tribe arrived here from Morocco in 1313 kept their agriculture and maintained records of their lineage. We were able to connect with the sovereign nation of the Cherokee, then go back to Morocco to find them.

There were three clans of the Cherokee that maintained Islam and one is Shia and Sayyid

Much of history is not what they teach in high school or undergrad real history is contained in books in archives and researched only at the graduate in doctoral  level
 

Also, I don’t get my news from YouTube. I get my news from Iranian and Russian sources as well as for general news. BBC and Al Jazeera are both good to an extent also I read and study and spent years in the seminary


 

Norred stood down when they were told planes were hijacked in several months before it came out. They were testing such a scenario.

A lot of young brothers don’t wanna accept how the world works

Brother, these things are conspiracies. Why do the vast majority of our scholars are most senior in knowledgeable scholars in Iran and Iraq believe such things

You believe the masters of this religion and the absence of the infallible ones to be ignorant

Also on conspiracies, do you think it’s a conspiracy that the Jewish elders masterminded the holocaust is a blood sacrifice to eliminate the orthodox wouldn’t go along with their plan to establish their homeland before the coming of their Messiah. They big deals with demons and practice witchcraft.

But again, if you talk too many of our senior scholars, they’re well aware and know this

What’s the conspiracy that 14 of the so-called most prominent companions tried to scare the profits camel lightning flashed and he saw their faces

Was a conspiracy the two women on the orders of two men poisoned the prophet to steal leadership

Was it a conspiracy that the companion in the cave made noise for the disbeliever to come and murdered the prophet because he was a hypocrite and an agent the dove in the spider had already fooled them. He only made noise to cause a problem.

Why does the Lord say his book when there’s a gathering of three he’s the fourth and there’s a gathering of five he’s the sixth because those three were constantly gathering for evil and those five were constantly gathering for good and he’s witness over both good and evil

These so-called things are interpreted by the others is conspiracy. There is a well document and known in a narrations.

As well as historical sources

We should be open to conspiracy theories and looking deeper and finding the truth because the basis of our theology in our belief is based on what the others accused of being a conspiracy theory

wallahu Alam 

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On the Jews from our books 

and the Jews were cursed by the tongues of David and Jesus for their sins

sura Madia Ayah 78 

What other said look at the book of John chapter 8 verse 39 to 44

And just for fun Harold Rosenthal lead to the US Senator who many are now trying to discredit it just like the protocols because it makes too much sense

Said we just don’t like to admit it, but our true God is Lucifer and we are his chosen people

@Ibrahim Rasheed

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22 hours ago, GEU_40 said:

Please keep these forums clean from crackpot theories like "9/11 was an inside job". Shias have been maligned on the world stage more than enough at this point.

Why do you get so irritated? What do you want to hide?  Was this the only False Flag Israael carried out against USA? No.  It is not. 

It is people like you that tries so desperately to bury the truth.  

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41 minutes ago, Ibrahim Rasheed said:

Why do you get so irritated? What do you want to hide?  Was this the only False Flag Israael carried out against USA? No.  It is not. 

It is people like you that tries so desperately to bury the truth.  

Salam

The sinking of the USS liberty is another example of the treachery

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14 hours ago, GEU_40 said:

And it proves what, exactly? People all over the Muslim world danced. Reconsider your youtube playlist or wherever you get your news from.

:salam:

It proves nothing, I just like that phrase. Dancing Israelis. 

Plus it usually sparks something. 

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14 hours ago, GEU_40 said:

And it proves what, exactly? People all over the Muslim world danced. Reconsider your youtube playlist or wherever you get your news from.

:salam:

It proves nothing, I just like that phrase. Dancing Israelis. 

Plus it usually sparks something. 

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16 hours ago, Abu Hassanain said:

Salam

The sinking of the USS liberty is another example of the treachery

Not only that.  Israeli False Flag in Egypt killing hundreds of Egyptions and Americans to promote a 9/11 style massacare known as the Lavon Affair, named after Defense Minister Pinhas Lavon who ordered the killing of Americans and British civilaisn who visited the places,.  It was a false-flag sabotage operation. The plan included making it look like Egyptian organizations were behind bombings that targeted Western interests.   Aim of the operation was to get Britian to stay occypying Suez Canal.  

This well-documented incident in the 1950s involving Israeli intelligence operatives from  Unit 131, a cell of Egyptian Jews recruited by Israeli military intelligence, "Mossad",  planting bombs in Egypt that became a major political scandalThis event is not a fringe claim, but a known episode in Middle Eastern and intelligence history proven beyond doubt. 

It did not succeed in killing American civilians as a premature blast burning the Israeli Mossad's Unit 131 operative (Philip Natanson)'s clothes while planting the bombs alerted the authorities.   12 Israeli agents were apprehended.  

Israel initially denied responsibility for decades, but official acknowledgement came much later and surviving participants were even honored in the 2000s by the Israeli presidency.  Source.   The Unz Review
 

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The "evidence" that 9-11 was orchestrated by Zionist Jews - or was an inside job by the US government - is not very compelling. It ranges from circumstantial at best, to wildly speculative and fantastical at worst. Rather than engage in this pointless exercise, it's better to at least recognize what we do know, which is that the US neocons took advantage of it to further their agenda of empire and to demonize an entire religion and civilization. 

An additional thing that we do know, is that 9-11 and similar attacks are completely normal and typical in the history of Takfiris and their ideology, going all the way back to the Khawarij. It's also known that the western powers have traditionally allied with Takfiris to undermine Islam and further their own agendas. 

As followers of Ahlulbayt, the better thing to do is to recognize that this insidious disease of the Khawarij has existed since the time of Imam Ali (عليه السلام), and that the true model of  physical struggle is exemplified in Imam Ali (عليه السلام) and his followers. Look at the resistance today in Lebanon, they embody the true spirit of struggle in Islam. Look at how they are the complete opposite of Takfiris and their ideology and tactics. This is what we should emphasize as Muslims and followers of Ahlulbayt. 

 

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No Jew or a Jew aligned Hasbara Troll can refute logically to any of my  comments or Posts above.  The Post "A Decade of Brainwashing " and the reply example of "Lavon Affair".    
The world is totally fed up with the Jews and their lust for blood of humanity for over 2500 years and ongoing non stop.  This evil has to stop.  Even if the entire White West tag along with Jews on Rampage and Looting on Humanity it does not mean might is right.  Looting and Pillage is right.  It only shows that these evils not stop until they loot and plunder the entire humanity and enslave the last human.   

No humanbeing will side with this evils.  

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