Islamic Position On Seers

[Eddie Mecca]

What's the Islamic understanding and/or Shi'i position on seers both past and present? For those who don't know, a "seer" is a gifted person who possesses the ability to glimpse future events... I'm wondering if anyone familiar with the personalities of Baba Vanga and Edgar Cayce in particular... They seem sincere, humble and God-fearing... on the contrary, I think Nostradomus was a charlatan 

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[Eddie Mecca]

seer1

/sir/

noun

1.

a person who is supposed to be able, through supernatural insight, to see what the future holds.

"a seer had foretold that the earl would assume the throne"

Similar:

prophet

prophetess

sibyl

augur

soothsayer

wise man

wise woman

sage

oracle

prognosticator

prophesier

forecaster of the future

diviner

fortune teller

crystal gazer

clairvoyant

psychic

spiritualist

medium

spaeman

spaewife

haruspex

vaticinator

oracler

2.

archaic

a person who sees something specified.

"a seer of the future"

[Eddie Mecca]

Baba Vanga - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baba_Vanga

[Eddie Mecca]

The so-called "Nostradamus of the Balkans" foresaw "a great war between the West and the East", which would result in disastrous consequences. She stated: "As soon as Syria falls, expect a great war between the West and the East. In the spring, a war in the East will begin, and there will be a Third World War. A war in the East that will destroy the West." - Baba Vanga

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[Abu Hassanain]

9 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

The so-called "Nostradamus of the Balkans" foresaw "a great war between the West and the East", which would result in disastrous consequences. She stated: "As soon as Syria falls, expect a great war between the West and the East. In the spring, a war in the East will begin, and there will be a Third World War. A war in the East that will destroy the West." - Baba Vanga

Salam

The position of Shia Scholars is that there is no prophet or messenger after a Rasul Allah sawa, and that revelation stopped with him. There is discussion on what the level of interaction between the rest of the 14 and the angels are, but it is not Revelation in the same sense is with the prophet. The remaining 13 have a degree of knowledge by permission of the Lord of the unseen, and they do have knowledge of the future and what will happen, but this is through their divine connection and it’s much more discussed with much more slightly different views than the beginning of the discussion they’re not appropriate or have enough time to list here Suffice of to say whatever the 14 say is the word of Allah himself as per chapter 53 in numerous narrations if it, but the narration, the verses are clear, the narrations need to be verified

Therefore, the belief of our school is that anyone claiming their visions or revelations after the holy prophet, peace and lessons be upon him is a liar. Many narrations indicate that this is a Capital offense in a form of witchcraft and sorcery.
 

Because usually people claim these type of visions to mislead people to miss guide them to call them to themselves to feel special to cause mischief or to take some financial advantage

The other option is that many of these men might’ve been what we now called schizophrenic and mentally unwell

A lot of these predictions are vague unclear and can be interpreted so many ways and so many times

We find that even with some narrations that are sound you can’t really say for sure into a bunch of other things happen if it’s happened like the narration, a dictator will be killed in Egypt and the people revolt. Well this has happened numerous times unfortunately we always have dictators in our countries so very hard to pin down.

Another possibility is they could get some kind of information from the gym or other beans, but having communion with such beans and using them for information is in permissible

The narrations are clear that one who visits a fortune teller for information. Their prayers are not accepted for 40 days so we should be cautious because listening to reading these prophecies as well as horoscopes could fall into that category.

They may have some right information. They may have some wrong information but the position of our School list to ignore them and disbelief them into curse, the astrologist, sorcerers, witches and soothsayers collectively

Wallahu Alam

[Abu Hassanain]

9 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

The so-called "Nostradamus of the Balkans" foresaw "a great war between the West and the East", which would result in disastrous consequences. She stated: "As soon as Syria falls, expect a great war between the West and the East. In the spring, a war in the East will begin, and there will be a Third World War. A war in the East that will destroy the West." - Baba Vanga

Salam

here is a list of rulings on these matters by one of our great late scholars

https://www.alhakeem.com/en/questions/1021

[Abu Hassanain]

9 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

The so-called "Nostradamus of the Balkans" foresaw "a great war between the West and the East", which would result in disastrous consequences. She stated: "As soon as Syria falls, expect a great war between the West and the East. In the spring, a war in the East will begin, and there will be a Third World War. A war in the East that will destroy the West." - Baba Vanga

Salam

this is a more in-depth article sharing narrations in some rulings

https://erfan.ir/english/amp38651.html

[Eddie Mecca]

17 hours ago, Abu Hassanain said:

The position of Shia Scholars is that there is no prophet or messenger after a Rasul Allah sawa, and that revelation stopped with him.

Exactly 

17 hours ago, Abu Hassanain said:

There is discussion on what the level of interaction between the rest of the 14 and the angels are, but it is not Revelation in the same sense is with the prophet.

Agreed... what the Prophet's progeny (peace be upon them) received was either Ilhām or a lesser form of nonprophetic wahy... it can be compared to the bee who intuitively knows how to build his hive.

[Eddie Mecca]

17 hours ago, Abu Hassanain said:

Therefore, the belief of our school is that anyone claiming their visions or revelations after the holy prophet, peace and lessons be upon him is a liar. Many narrations indicate that this is a Capital offense in a form of witchcraft and sorcery.
 

Because usually people claim these type of visions to mislead people to miss guide them to call them to themselves to feel special to cause mischief or to take some financial advantage

This is an important point that needs to be stated openly and clearly and boldly.. delving into black magic, witchcraft, socery etc. or attempting to make connect with interdimentional entities is completely forbidden and considered kufr (i.e. unbelief) according to Islamic law... 9,999 out of 10,000 who claim access to these types of supernatural abilities are charlatans, deceivers etc. or they have successfully made contact with unfavorable beings who harbor malevolent intentions.

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[AbdusSibtayn]

There are some very pious souls who are not prophets or imams but because of their faith and devotion, Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) grants them a degree of access into the supernatural. The examples of Shaykh Bahjat (rh) and his teacher, Sayyid Ali Qadi al-Tabataba'i (rh) come to mind. Their stories are only too well known and don't need to be repeated here. 

I have heard this from a very, very reliable person whose name I won't disclose- when Sayyid al-Khu'i (rh) was a student at Najaf, he used to visit Sayyid Ali Qadi frequently; the latter was already a marja and his spiritual gifts had become very well known by then. On one occasion, Sayyid Ali Qadi had caused the entire course of Sayyid Khu'i's future life to flash before his eyes- his ascension to the marja'iyyah, the publication of his works, his future fame and accolades, until just before his death. He then turned to young Sayyid al-Khu'i and said- 'If you want, I can show you more than this, and beyond'. 

[Abu Hassanain]

4 hours ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

There are some very pious souls who are not prophets or imams but because of their faith and devotion, Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) grants them a degree of access into the supernatural. The examples of Shaykh Bahjat (rh) and his teacher, Sayyid Ali Qadi al-Tabataba'i (rh) come to mind. Their stories are only too well known and don't need to be repeated here. 

I have heard this from a very, very reliable person whose name I won't disclose- when Sayyid al-Khu'i (rh) was a student at Najaf, he used to visit Sayyid Ali Qadi frequently; the latter was already a marja and his spiritual gifts had become very well known by then. On one occasion, Sayyid Ali Qadi had caused the entire course of Sayyid Khu'i's future life to flash before his eyes- his ascension to the marja'iyyah, the publication of his works, his future fame and accolades, until just before his death. He then turned to young Sayyid al-Khu'i and said- 'If you want, I can show you more than this, and beyond'. 

Salam

yes, I have heard the story from my teachers as well. It is well known. It should be noted their groups in the seminary that accept these types of stories and groups that don’t.

I would say these are a different type of category than the so-called seers. And usually these type of abilities are bestowed upon them by possession of the great name or by permission of the luminary.

There’s a similar story about the two scholars, the father and son in Karachi about the meeting between Sayyid Khumanyi Ra and Imam Mahdi as about different scholars, seeing people in a reality, etc.

wallahu Alam 

[realizm]

On one hand, this seems prohibited in Islam. On the other hand, we have figures such as Shah Ni`matullah Wali who is considered as a saint and I think if we search a little we will find about gnostics who had visions and they will probably not be discarded.

On the contrary a little bit of popular beliefs seem ok in our societies 

[PureExistence1]

1 hour ago, realizm said:

On one hand, this seems prohibited in Islam. On the other hand, we have figures such as Shah Ni`matullah Wali who is considered as a saint and I think if we search a little we will find about gnostics who had visions and they will probably not be discarded.

On the contrary a little bit of popular beliefs seem ok in our societies 

I don't know why but your post made me think about how even law enforcement agencies employ psychics or people to help them solve investigations and crimes so this may be one of those subjects that overall, the prohibition or at least what seems like Prohibition in many ways is there because too many people can be led astray and away from the religion by following these people but that not saying that these abilities are not possible or that they are never used for good reasons. And this post is mainly just used because someone had presented a list above and the word psychic was used in that list so that's what I'm going off of here by this statement. 

Like I think it's regarding gambling or maybe it's alcohol, please excuse me for not knowing right now I literally woke up 5 minutes ago from a weird dream so I'm not completely coherent right now but in one of those two subjects in the Quran it actually says that in it are some good for men but more bad so it's probably one of those subjects where because people are people and we just basically ruin everything and get misled very easily that it's not saying this isn't possible or that other people besides even Muslims have it but that in the long run, we're just going to mess it all up and it's going to lead us astray so it's better if we stay away from it. But I know there are people that have the ability to know things. And that gift can't come from anybody other than Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) but what's done with it is the big determining factor. I think humans, as usual, have done a huge disservice to these people by rejecting them and ostracizing them and claiming that their ability comes from shaytan etc throughout the centuries I fortunately. But yeah there are a lot of fakes and charlatans out there also.

[realizm]

42 minutes ago, PureExistence1 said:

But yeah there are a lot of fakes and charlatans out there also.

Sorry that's the only part of your post I could get 

[Abu Nur]

9 hours ago, realizm said:

On one hand, this seems prohibited in Islam. On the other hand, we have figures such as Shah Ni`matullah Wali who is considered as a saint and I think if we search a little we will find about gnostics who had visions and they will probably not be discarded.

On the contrary a little bit of popular beliefs seem ok in our societies 

I can not say anything about born with these abilities. But this is not extraordinary for Awliya of Allah nor will they ever care about it nor will they ever want to tell to people about it. 

Normal people do also get dreams of future events, someone of them very clear and some need inteprations. This is because in their sleep their soul reach to the places and spirits where it will be informed about the coming event. 

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[Ashvazdanghe]

11 hours ago, realizm said:

On one hand, this seems prohibited in Islam. On the other hand, we have figures such as Shah Ni`matullah Wali who is considered as a saint and I think if we search a little we will find about gnostics who had visions and they will probably not be discarded.

On the contrary a little bit of popular beliefs seem ok in our societies 

Salam respectfully Shah Ni`matullah Wali has  considered mostly as a Sufi Qutb which considering him as Sunni or Shia is controversial about him because he has shown tendencies to both sides ; however he has been a reverend person in history ; but on the other hand his principles has been respected by some shia scholars which his predictions have some popularity between common people & his followers which he has  claimed his revelations to have spiritual bases in opposition of Nostradamus, who claimed that his revelations have astrological bases ; which generally  having revelations based on spiritual bases has no problem although there is danger of receiving it from evils so therefore it's too slippery which there is danger of deviation buy evils ; but on the other hand having revelations based on astrological bases totally  have been forbidden .

Principles by Shah Ni‘matullah Wali

Muhammad Legenhausen

https://al-islam.org/principles-shah-nimatullah-wali-muhammad-legenhausen/principles-shah-nimatullah-wali

The Nostradamus of the Islamic World – Shah Nematollah Vali Prediction

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Shah Nematollah Vali left the world with a Persian book of poems. But the book is no ordinary book! It is a book of predictions and prophesies! The accuracy with which the poems name the historical figures and events that emerged centuries later is just mind-blowing! Despite Nostradamus, who claimed that his revelations have astrological bases, Shah Nematollah claimed his revelations to have spiritual bases.

https://iranontour.com/city-attractions/shah-nematollah-vali-shrine/

https://sufism.ir/en/mystics/hazrate-shah-nimatullah-wali/

 

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[Mountain]

On 11/7/2025 at 2:49 PM, Abu Hassanain said:

Salam

The position of Shia Scholars is that there is no prophet or messenger after a Rasul Allah sawa, and that revelation stopped with him. There is discussion on what the level of interaction between the rest of the 14 and the angels are, but it is not Revelation in the same sense is with the prophet. The remaining 13 have a degree of knowledge by permission of the Lord of the unseen, and they do have knowledge of the future and what will happen, but this is through their divine connection and it’s much more discussed with much more slightly different views than the beginning of the discussion they’re not appropriate or have enough time to list here Suffice of to say whatever the 14 say is the word of Allah himself as per chapter 53 in numerous narrations if it, but the narration, the verses are clear, the narrations need to be verified

Therefore, the belief of our school is that anyone claiming their visions or revelations after the holy prophet, peace and lessons be upon him is a liar. Many narrations indicate that this is a Capital offense in a form of witchcraft and sorcery.
 

Because usually people claim these type of visions to mislead people to miss guide them to call them to themselves to feel special to cause mischief or to take some financial advantage

The other option is that many of these men might’ve been what we now called schizophrenic and mentally unwell

A lot of these predictions are vague unclear and can be interpreted so many ways and so many times

We find that even with some narrations that are sound you can’t really say for sure into a bunch of other things happen if it’s happened like the narration, a dictator will be killed in Egypt and the people revolt. Well this has happened numerous times unfortunately we always have dictators in our countries so very hard to pin down.

Another possibility is they could get some kind of information from the gym or other beans, but having communion with such beans and using them for information is in permissible

The narrations are clear that one who visits a fortune teller for information. Their prayers are not accepted for 40 days so we should be cautious because listening to reading these prophecies as well as horoscopes could fall into that category.

They may have some right information. They may have some wrong information but the position of our School list to ignore them and disbelief them into curse, the astrologist, sorcerers, witches and soothsayers collectively

Wallahu Alam

Salaam, I heard in a lecture that the angles talk to them but they can’t see the angles.

[Abu Hassanain]

22 minutes ago, Mountain said:

Salaam, I heard in a lecture that the angles talk to them but they can’t see the angles.

Salam

debTed some books indicate Khadijah assaw  Jibril as  and received Salam from Allah habib ul muminin that Fatimah as spoke with and recongized on site different angels etc

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[Eddie Mecca]

3 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

nor will they ever care about it nor will they ever want to tell to people about it. 

Sometimes it's not because they're bragging or boasting about their abilities but the word gets out and circulates and they become popular.

[Eddie Mecca]

I believe Allah gives certain people gifts and as trained Muslims we can recognize the genuine people from the fraudulent ones... the deceivers live materialistic lives... they employ tarot cards and oujia boards... they contact spirits and they live lavishly... the pious ones don't seek it out... it's a natural ability they're either born with or the supernatural quality develops or is granted to them later in life... they don't seek out fame and fortune... we measure their predictions by weighing them against the Qurʾān.

[Abu Nur]

4 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

Sometimes it's not because they're bragging or boasting about their abilities but the word gets out and circulates and they become popular.

Yes, that is true. But one thing I forget to tell is that the karamat and visions are only there to increase their current faith and they may sometimes tell to their trusted believers only for Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) sake and increasing other people faith and knowledge. Sometimes they may help someone and the nature of the helping is miracle and then that person goes an tell others about it, but what the awliya do in this case is to deny them. Keeping everything secret of their miracles and vision is one of the spiritual stage. 

And [mention] when Abraham said, "My Lord, show me how You give life to the dead." [Allāh] said, "Have you not believed?" He said, "Yes, but [I ask] only that my heart may be satisfied." [Allāh] said, "Take four birds and commit them to yourself. Then [after slaughtering them] put on each hill a portion of them; then call them - they will come [flying] to you in haste. And know that Allāh is Exalted in Might and Wise." Quran 2:260
 

[Abu Nur]

5 hours ago, Abu Hassanain said:

Salam

debTed some books indicate Khadijah assaw  Jibril as  and received Salam from Allah habib ul muminin that Fatimah as spoke with and recongized on site different angels etc

Wa Aleikum Salaam,

We have the narration that is Sahih in  Mir'aat Al-'Uqool, vol. 2, pg. 289 where it says Imams can only hear the angels. But have anyone asked does it make any sense that Maryam (عليه السلام) literally saw Gabriel in Qur'an and compare to that narration. Could it be they can not see them in their true form?

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[Mountain]

7 hours ago, Abu Hassanain said:

Salam

debTed some books indicate Khadijah assaw  Jibril as  and received Salam from Allah habib ul muminin that Fatimah as spoke with and recongized on site different angels etc

Walaikum Asalam,Yeah we know that Fatima Al Zahra s.a spoke with angels, in the lecture by Syed Ammar he said that the Imams are like Nabi’s when it comes to angles they can hear them but they can’t see them. Only Allah Subhana hu’wa’ta’ala knows. Salaams

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[Mountain]

Just now, Mountain said:

Walaikum Asalam,Yeah we know that Fatima Al Zahra s.a spoke with angels in the lecture by Syed Ammar he said that the Imams are like Nabi’s when it comes to angles the can hear them but the can’t see them. Only Allah Subhana hu’wa’ta’ala knows. Salaams

 

[PureExistence1]

7 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

Wa Aleikum Salaam,

We have the narration that is Sahih in  Mir'aat Al-'Uqool, vol. 2, pg. 289 where it says Imams can only hear the angels. But have anyone asked does it make any sense that Maryam (عليه السلام) literally saw Gabriel in Qur'an and compare to that narration. Could it be they can not see them in their true form?

Very good point brother, and your suggestion may be correct. It sounds very reasonable. As far as I know, angels have only manifested in  forms familiar to humans, not their true forms. 

[Eddie Mecca]

16 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

We have the narration that is Sahih in  Mir'aat Al-'Uqool, vol. 2, pg. 289 where it says Imams can only hear the angels. But have anyone asked does it make any sense that Maryam (عليه السلام) literally saw Gabriel in Qur'an and compare to that narration. Could it be they can not see them in their true form?

I can understand and follow your line of reasoning but at the end of the day it remains speculation... on the Day of Judgement all will be revealed... perhaps if the Imams (a) lived before Muhammad's (s) time they would've been prophets... perhaps because the Imams (a) were post-Muhammadan era they were only allowed to hear the angels on occasion and not see them... otherwise that would compromise the finality of prophethood doctrine in Islam... the Imams (a) gain knowledge in many different ways... they study and they were the best students of Rasul-Allah (s)... 100.0 grade point average... also, whenever they really want to know something the Holy Spirit gives it to them... the Holy Spirit is not the Archangel Gabriel but a different creature... the full prophetic revelation that came to Moses, Jesus and Muhammad did not come to the Imams... also, the Imams know the Greatest Name of Allah and through this name they gain excess to hidden knowledge and sacred wisdom. 

[Abu Hassanain]

38 minutes ago, Eddie Mecca said:

I can understand and follow your line of reasoning but at the end of the day it remains speculation... on the Day of Judgement all will be revealed... perhaps if the Imams (a) lived before Muhammad's (s) time they would've been prophets... perhaps because the Imams (a) were post-Muhammadan era they were only allowed to hear the angels on occasion and not see them... otherwise that would compromise the finality of prophethood doctrine in Islam... the Imams (a) gain knowledge in many different ways... they study and they were the best students of Rasul-Allah (s)... 100.0 grade point average... also, whenever they really want to know something the Holy Spirit gives it to them... the Holy Spirit is not the Archangel Gabriel but a different creature... the full prophetic revelation that came to Moses, Jesus and Muhammad did not come to the Imams... also, the Imams know the Greatest Name of Allah and through this name they gain excess to hidden knowledge and sacred wisdom. 

Salam

timeline of Nabi Ibrahim as and Baqarah 124 proves Immamah is higher than prophethood . Rasul Allah (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) held rank of Nabi Rasul Imam . 
 

Also Aimmah as as are higher than all 123,999 previous Anabia as 

Agrumstivy Fatimah as is higher in rank than all Aimmah as but her father . Very interesting discussions from ulama on this debate. 

Some consider her as second in level of isma as well

14 are all 14 parts of Nur I Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) have same Ilm different tasks 

agrumantively there is discussion Waliyah Imam Mahdi as is what all 124, 012 before him came to prepare way for or 14 parts of Nur I Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) made whole in flesh being the word that was goood and with god in Jewish books

also some tasfir discussions I attended mentioned metaphor of Sun Moon and 11 stars is Sun Muhammad Moon Fatimah 11 stars Aimmah  as bowing following Imam Mahdi in his kingdom and beginning of Rajat

Hadith of Imam Sadiq as says ruh qudus is something greater than Mikayal Jibril Isarafil as 

many take it to be 14 1/14 ruh (s) of nur I Muhammad ie complete entity or nur (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) 

some scholars are discussing based on narration of imam Sadiq as from Imam Ali as  in mazahir Illahi of Mullah Sadr Ra 

I was with every prophet secretly and Muhammad openly 

as evidence that Imam Ali as is ruh ul qudus 

smaller groups use grammar in story of throne and Musa as in desert to say it could have been Imam Ali as 

attended some Majalis where they discussed this and other primordial appearances of 14 in South America North America previous prophets time India etc 

wallahu Alam 

[Eddie Mecca]

"No written records are known to have been made of her (i.e. Baba Vanga) alleged predictions, but her (i.e. Baba Vanga) followers nevertheless frequently attribute predictions to her.

Many of the people who were close to her have stated that she never made some of the predictions attributed to her.

Some predictions attributed to her by her followers include:

*World War II

*The Dissolution of the Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia, and Yugoslavia

*The Chernobyl disaster

*The date of Stalin's death

*The date of Tsar Boris III's death

*The date of her own death

*The Kursk submarine disaster

*Princess Diana's death

*1985 Northern Bulgaria earthquake

*The September 11 attacks

*2004 Boxing Day Tsunami

*The election of an African-American as the 44th president of the United States

*The rise of ISIS

*Crocus City Hall attack

*2025 Myanmar earthquake

Some predictions that have proven to be false include:

*The 1994 FIFA World Cup final would be played between two teams beginning with "B"

*A nuclear war, between 2010 and 2016, which would lead to the abandonment of Europe.

*The 44th president of the United States was the "last US president"."

Wikipedia 

[Abu Nur]

37 minutes ago, Eddie Mecca said:

"No written records are known to have been made of her (i.e. Baba Vanga) alleged predictions, but her (i.e. Baba Vanga) followers nevertheless frequently attribute predictions to her.

Many of the people who were close to her have stated that she never made some of the predictions attributed to her.

Some predictions attributed to her by her followers include:

*World War II

*The Dissolution of the Soviet Union, Czechoslovakia, and Yugoslavia

*The Chernobyl disaster

*The date of Stalin's death

*The date of Tsar Boris III's death

*The date of her own death

*The Kursk submarine disaster

*Princess Diana's death

*1985 Northern Bulgaria earthquake

*The September 11 attacks

*2004 Boxing Day Tsunami

*The election of an African-American as the 44th president of the United States

*The rise of ISIS

*Crocus City Hall attack

*2025 Myanmar earthquake

Some predictions that have proven to be false include:

*The 1994 FIFA World Cup final would be played between two teams beginning with "B"

*A nuclear war, between 2010 and 2016, which would lead to the abandonment of Europe.

*The 44th president of the United States was the "last US president"."

Wikipedia 

You can easily see that people are just making these things up because some of the subject of the predictions have no worth. Religious predictions always base on things that is relevant to end times and faith. I do not doubt Baba Vanga and Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) gives His blessing to His devoted servants. 

[Eddie Mecca]

On 11/12/2025 at 1:41 AM, Abu Hassanain said:

Khadijah assaw  Jibril as

Salaam... Even the Sahaba saw Jibreel once or twice... like the time when a handsome stranger emerged from the desert and he appeared flawless with no signs of wear or travel... his clothing was white in color and without blemish and he looked immaculate and well-groomed and he greeted everyone and wanted to speak with Muhammad (s) alone in the distance... it was Gabriel in human form

On 11/13/2025 at 1:10 AM, Abu Hassanain said:

 

Also Aimmah as as are higher than all 123,999 previous Anabia as 

Agrumstivy Fatimah as is higher in rank than all Aimmah as but her father . Very interesting discussions from ulama on this debate. 

Some consider her as second in level of isma as well

14 are all 14 parts of Nur I Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) have same Ilm different tasks

These are speculations and theories and hypothesis that can nether be proven or disproven... they're interesting points to ponder over and examine... Qurʾān directly or conclusively states that the five greatest prophets of all time were: 1.) Muhammad 2.) Jesus 3.) Moses 4.) Abraham 5.) Noah... Qurʾān hints or implies or implicitly states   Imamate is higher than prophethood or messengership... see the difference?

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[Eddie Mecca]

1 hour ago, Eddie Mecca said:

but her (i.e. Baba Vanga) followers nevertheless frequently attribute predictions to her.

Her followers and even a few skeptics claim she had an 85% accuracy rate

[Ashvazdanghe]

52 minutes ago, Eddie Mecca said:

*The date of her own death

Salam respectfully nobody can predict he/his day of own death which based on facts maybe pious people maybe prophecies it only few days before their death which based on memoirs of martyrs of  sacred defense some of their pure hearted just has told about their martyrdom one  night before initiating operation   .

58 minutes ago, Eddie Mecca said:

*The date of Stalin's death

*The date of Tsar Boris III's death

*Princess Diana's death

This is about knowing about plots which some people likewise her would be informed about plans through Jinss .

18 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

I do not doubt Baba Vanga

Her predictions have been came from murky water of having connection with Jinns through controversy means ; which her prediction have been matched with NosterAdamus  predictions which are exposing some plans through magic 7 making connection with jins through unholy means . 

Why are Vanga’s predictions still so popular after decades?

The answer lies in a unique combination of fear, hope, and curiosity. In a world of increasing uncertainty—from climate change to technological advances—people are searching for patterns and meaning for the future. Vanga, with her ambiguous and multifaceted predictions, has somehow answered this need.

But critics say most of these predictions are so general that they can be interpreted at any time and in any situation.

However, this “intelligent ambiguity” may be the secret to her enduring name. A future between science and superstition If we take a realistic look, many of the things attributed to Vanga can be rooted in observable scientific and social trends. For example, the “artificial intelligence revolution” or the “energy crisis” are no longer predictions; they are realities that have already begun.

But the question is: did Vanga really see the future, or was she simply a keen observer of the signs of her times?

Analytical; predictive; prescient? Some psychologists believe that certain individuals, like Baba Vanga, possess the power of “superior intuitive perception”—the ability to unconsciously gather information from the environment and combine it to predict events.

Put simply, perhaps Vanga did not “see” the future, but rather “feel” it.

This interpretation bridges the gap between science and belief, and may be the best explanation for a phenomenon that has preoccupied public opinion for decades.

https://alefbakhabar.com/راز-پیشگوییهای-بابا-وانگا؛-سال-۲۰۲/

 

[Abu Nur]

Jazakallah khayran, I take my words back. I believe those who strive to Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) and clean their heart and removes Ego can receive theses news. 

[Eddie Mecca]

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