Burqa-prescribing Maraji?

[Ghayr Muqallid]

Selamun aleykum wa rahmetullah,

Inflammatory question, I know, and I apologize beforehand.

I'm interested in knowing which recent Maraji have considered face-veiling obligatory, have tried to spread the practice, or have looked at it at least favorably.

To my knowledge, it's well-established that Borujerdi historically considered it Wajib, and that Bashir Husayn al-Najafi and Jamil Hammoud al-Amili consider it to be Wajib contemporaneously.

Are any figures besides these known to have held similar opinions? Their students maybe?

Thanks in advance,

Jezakum allah khayran.

[Hameedeh]

On 10/27/2025 at 8:52 PM, Ghayr Muqallid said:

To my knowledge, it's well-established that Borujerdi historically considered it Wajib, and that Bashir Husayn al-Najafi and Jamil Hammoud al-Amili consider it to be Wajib contemporaneously.

Salam, everyone. I would not take this as a fact until more research is done. 

[Abu Hassanain]

6 hours ago, Hameedeh said:

Salam, everyone. I would not take this as a fact until more research is done. 

Salam

I know many wakil for Shaikh Bashir never heard this nor remember seeing this from books of Sayyid Burujudi . Sometimes scholars have discussions at the third level that aren’t rolling. It’s just an intellectual discussion on possibilities. For example, one senior scholar, who was teaching in the 60s who everybody knows but I’m not gonna mention the name was of the opinion that impurity is only transferred through wetness, but he had an extensive discussion on whether or not dryness actually existed and all disbeliever whatever they touched became in pure because of remote wetness, and he used the example of the keyboard in this discussion, but he didn’t end up rolling that way.
 

A lot of parts of the third level are theoretical and not the final conclusion so this could be something like that

wallahu Alam 

[Ghayr Muqallid]

On 11/3/2025 at 5:25 PM, Hameedeh said:

Salam, everyone. I would not take this as a fact until more research is done. 

Apologies, I confused Ayatollah Borujerdi (hafidhahullah) with Ayatollah Khoei (hafidhahullah). 

The citation is al-Masa'il, Mas'alah 1232 & 1233. p. 9038:

"It is obligatory for her to hide her face and the hands, even from Mahrams if they may look at her with pleasure."

"It is obligatory for her to hide her face and palms from non-Mahrams at all times and in all conditions."

[Ghayr Muqallid]

On 11/3/2025 at 4:38 PM, Abu Hassanain said:

Salam

I know many wakil for Shaikh Bashir never heard this nor remember seeing this from books of Sayyid Burujudi . Sometimes scholars have discussions at the third level that aren’t rolling. It’s just an intellectual discussion on possibilities. For example, one senior scholar, who was teaching in the 60s who everybody knows but I’m not gonna mention the name was of the opinion that impurity is only transferred through wetness, but he had an extensive discussion on whether or not dryness actually existed and all disbeliever whatever they touched became in pure because of remote wetness, and he used the example of the keyboard in this discussion, but he didn’t end up rolling that way.
 

A lot of parts of the third level are theoretical and not the final conclusion so this could be something like that

wallahu Alam 

This was posted by the office of Grand Ayatollah Sheikh Basheer Hussein Al-Najafy, it's public and on his website

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[Abu Hassanain]

On 11/6/2025 at 12:09 PM, Ghayr Muqallid said:

This was posted by the office of Grand Ayatollah Sheikh Basheer Hussein Al-Najafy, it's public and on his website

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Salam

I have contacted in a Pakistani scholar who speaks both Arabic Farsi Urdu English , who is one of the main representatives for the above supreme scholar and all of North America. He would be aware if this is authentic or miss translated. 
 

He himself got permission of being a grand scholar from 15 senior scholars in Iran and has been a student of the third level of the above mentioned scholar for decades

If he mentions something, I will post what he says without information detail details

Wallahu Alam 

And the ruling for Sayyid Khoy 

I would have to verify that translation is authentic. Majority of Arab Persian women from the School of the 14 do not cover the face and hands some women cover the chins. Some women wear the face veil is more of a cultural thing mostly it’s a handful of Persian families I met or some of the deep desert better in tribes where regardless of School of thought or rolling that’s a long-standing tradition

[Abu Hassanain]

On 11/6/2025 at 12:08 PM, Ghayr Muqallid said:

Apologies, I confused Ayatollah Borujerdi (hafidhahullah) with Ayatollah Khoei (hafidhahullah). 

The citation is al-Masa'il, Mas'alah 1232 & 1233. p. 9038:

"It is obligatory for her to hide her face and the hands, even from Mahrams if they may look at her with pleasure."

"It is obligatory for her to hide her face and palms from non-Mahrams at all times and in all conditions."

Salam

Minhaj Assahalin volume 1 on Ibadat ruling 797 states that it is not necessary for the woman to cover her face. That’s the literal translation of the sentence it then mentions is precaution. She should cover her feet. It mentions the obligation of covering the head and hair.
 

tour source on 1232 and 1233 is from what site? His book Al Fiqh there is sometimes listed as the same title of his students book Fiqh Al Wadih although I could not find proof for being called the title many scholars have a book under the first title

Your referencing from something in Arabic that means the legal rollings the answers, etc. he does not have such a book that is 9000 pages. A very large book translate in English to the jurisprudence and I’m very close with some of the studentss of Sayyid Khoy as many of them were my teachers

You must prove post better proof than this

Why would his view be radically different in his main book for all his followers than in his scholarly book unless it was a matter of debate that was not the final conclusion is off in the case on the third level ie dars Kharij 

There is a statement from itijahad net that Sayyid Khoy and Sayyid Gulpygani held this view of obligatory precaution in front of non-relatives, when comparing Sayyid Sistani Ruling however the article is written by a convert from a Sunni country and they do not offer any reference or proof

I was close with the office of Shaikh Safi and I don’t remember him ruling like that either as some people on Reddit apparently are saying

if a scholar has a certain ad or different opinion, it’s not a big deal, but before and people can always be precaution if someone wants to cover their face and hands as a precaution I always support precaution however, people shouldn’t take their cultural norms or beliefs, and say that this is the clear ruling of a specific scholar without proof, you can say well according to our school of thought according to this historical report or narration should I do this as a precaution where my scholar doesn’t say I have to do this, but I take it as a precaution or this could be that that’s fine, but attributing an opinion of a scholar on a specific non-precautionary area rolling generally requires much more proof 

[Abu Hassanain]

Salam

I texted his representative for North America was a friend of mine, but it has been a little ill. We’ll see if he gets back to me.

I also texted his official website using the full description of the face fail and the correct Arabic term to see what he says

There’s a lot of discussion on Reddit and suppose it antidotes some people claims he screams at people with seems un becoming of a grand scholar and unlike him the late leader of the revolution was very strict, but if women came to meet him dressed improperly, he would simply walk away. He didn’t yell at anyone then I can’t see any grand scholar behaving like this.

Hopefully the office will actually reply with a clear answer and from use of correct in Arabic terms

[Abu Hassanain]

On 10/27/2025 at 9:52 PM, Ghayr Muqallid said:

Selamun aleykum wa rahmetullah,

Inflammatory question, I know, and I apologize beforehand.

I'm interested in knowing which recent Maraji have considered face-veiling obligatory, have tried to spread the practice, or have looked at it at least favorably.

To my knowledge, it's well-established that Borujerdi historically considered it Wajib, and that Bashir Husayn al-Najafi and Jamil Hammoud al-Amili consider it to be Wajib contemporaneously.

Are any figures besides these known to have held similar opinions? Their students maybe?

Thanks in advance,

Jezakum allah khayran.

Salam

I just spoke with a friend who wishes not to be named. He runs a center center here in North America. He’s over 80 and he was a third level student of Sayyid Khoy 

He said there might have been some specific situations here or calls where the scholar considered the face veil to be an obligatory precaution, but it was not an overall rule of obligatory precaution or obligation

He also cited that a rolling 1200 on page 9000 from a book named so did not exist. He said the encyclopedia isn’t organized like that either.

He mentioned that people might’ve misunderstood the phrase, the covering from the head to the bosom to mean the face, but it’s not a correct translation

as for the living scholars view, I still haven’t heard back from his representative, and the person I talked to as a close friend of his, who also meets with that scholar, says that the stories online about him being angry and screaming at people are dubious in the in a society, they can hardly get people to cover up. He can’t see him giving that as a global rolling he might’ve given it for specific areas, but if you hear some other friend, he’s gonna see if that online clip was authentic 

I couldn’t find it on his official site under his Q&A either so it be interesting to see if that’s AI generated or where that came from

[Abu Hassanain]

Salam

received response from the isifatafa office of Ayatullah Udma Shaikh Bashir Najafi may his shadow be prolonged

He does indeed  now require the covering of the face and hands and foot of non-relatives or when going out for a woman except under the most extreme of pressures from the legal authorities

The motivation for several seems to be avoiding her interest to see what the social consequences would be in terms of employment and other things for his followers living in the western countries

wallahu Alam 

Edited December 8, 2025 by Abu Hassanain
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