Be very careful of Russia and China

[Abu Nur]

Salaam Aleikum, 

O believers! Take neither Jews nor Christians as guardians—they are guardians of each other.1 Whoever does so will be counted as one of them. Surely Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people.

Do not listen Muslims scholars who make you think that Russia are the true orthodox Christians who will side in right side. Do not listen political analysis who always side with Multipolar world giving you image that China and Russia are the good guys. 

The polytheist will always choose the values of evil people while at the same time give you deceiving speech of how much they care about you. 

[Haji 2003]

4 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

Do not listen political analysis who always side with Multipolar world giving you image that China and Russia are the good guys. 

The advantage of a multipolar world does not depend on Russia and China being good. Rather the advantages of a multipolar world exist even where Russia and China are very bad.

The point about multipolarity, as I understand it, is that it gives hegemonic powers who would otherwise be very very bad an incentive to be better.

By the same measure, a belief in multipolarity would hold that America and Europe are needed to keep China and Russia honest.

[Abu Nur]

5 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

The advantage of a multipolar world does not depend on Russia and China being good. Rather the advantages of a multipolar world exist even where Russia and China are very bad.

The point about multipolarity, as I understand it, is that it gives hegemonic powers who would otherwise be very very bad an incentive to be better.

By the same measure, a belief in multipolarity would hold that America and Europe are needed to keep China and Russia honest.

These two countries are the essential ones who push forward and mostly control the situations and decide what to do next. Without them, nothing can be passed. They also use monetary systems that is not Islamic. This is a warning for Muslims in general who take their religion seriously, that do not expect honesty and trust from them. 

 

[Abu Hassanain]

Salam

I have been saying this for years

Neither East nor Eest Islam is the best Sayyid Khumanyi Ra 

shia can only truly rely on Allah, wasilah 14 and other Shia 

All other alliances are by nature, transactional, and temporary

Where was Russia and China in Iran’s hour of need? 
 

Why didn’t they shoot the missiles or planes out of the sky?

They care about Iran in so much is it benefits them from stopping the western block from getting a foothold as soon as caring about Iran or other groups may cost them something or affect them making money they cease to care

Wallahu Alam 

[Gaius I. Caesar]

6 hours ago, Abu Hassanain said:

Where was Russia and China in Iran’s hour of need? 
 

Why didn’t they shoot the missiles or planes out of the sky?

Why should Iran ever rely or trust two traditionally communist countries, notorious for state-sponsored atheism? USSR even tried to stamp out tashayyu and azadari in Azerbaijan.

[Ashvazdanghe]

21 minutes ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

Why should Iran ever rely or trust two traditionally communist countries, notorious for state-sponsored atheism? USSR even tried to stamp out tashayyu and azadari in Azerbaijan.

Salam currently russia is out of sepher of communist ideas which in similar fashion China barely follows communist ideas which only some conservative Chinese officials has remained loyal to communism while in our time rogue Zionist Israel in cooperation of Pan-Turkism (neo Ottomanism) of Turkey & so called rulers of Azerbaijan have tried to "stamp out tashayyu and azadari in Azerbaijan." while currently Russia & China has no problem with Tashayyu and Azadari even in their countries which problem of China & Russia is with imported radical Wahabism by Turkey & KSA to thier countries which weakness of spreading of Shia Islam in their countries is mostly due to shortcoming of Iran ; which in similar fashion stamping out tashayyu and azadari in Azerbaijan. is due shortcoming of Iran due political reasons which so called reformist party & some seculars are acting as lobby of Azerbaijan in Iran.

Edited October 6 by Ashvazdanghe

[Abu Nur]

9 hours ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

Why should Iran ever rely or trust two traditionally communist countries, notorious for state-sponsored atheism? USSR even tried to stamp out tashayyu and azadari in Azerbaijan.

We are living in a system that there is no other choose but to make some deals, but what I mean here is that there should never be trust or ally with anyone except believers who we trust and those Muslims who want to have good connection. China or Russia are those who really have no moral ethics so they will do business even with the Zionist jew. You can never trust such a people.

[realizm]

Big deception with Russia, who proved more likely to sideline with Tell Aviv than help us in dire times.

[Diaz]

They are all the same, we will see their real faces once they take control of the world. 

[313_Waiter]

Thoughts on Sheikh Imran Hosain’s views on Russia and China?

 

Or Aleksandr Dugin’s views on Russia , China and Iran?

Edited October 18 by 313_Waiter

[Abu Nur]

[Eddie Mecca]

@Abu Nur, your viewpoint and Laith's viewpoint mirror one another very closely - Jamarl Thomas - BETRAYAL: Russia Made A Serious Mistake - approximately 48 minutes 

 

[AbdusSibtayn]

Of course we must be cautious of them and not trust them blindly. 

Their much projected 'multipolarity' is a charade to push their own hegemony instead of the US and its vassal states. 'Multipolarity' is only when it suits them, otherwise they have no qualms about joining hands with the Americans when it's to their benefit. A good example is in Bangladesh, Pakistan, Maldives and Sri Lanka, where they worked together with the aim of containing Indian in South Asia, which was seen as a common challenge. They had both supported Saddam (la) against Iran in the 1980s. They have voted against Iran in many UN Security Council resolutions. Russia is yet to deliver those fighter jets which Iran had asked for years ago; and it's not even like they are giving them for free, Iran is paying for those jets. 

If anything, their recent under-the-table deal with the al-Qaeda regime in Syria should free us of any illusions- they are willing and ready to throw their closest allies under the bus as and when it suits them. 

Are they better than the Americans? Of course yes. But are they reliable allies? I don't think so. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

58 minutes ago, Eddie Mecca said:

@Abu Nur, your viewpoint and Laith's viewpoint mirror one another very closely - Jamarl Thomas - BETRAYAL: Russia Made A Serious Mistake - approximately 48 minutes 

 

Putin will realize how abysmally his shopkeeper arithmetic failed when Trump offers Jolani a bigger sack of money and he stabs him in the back. A mercenary is only by your side till you keep giving him more money than your enemy. 

[Hamdi999]

5 hours ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

Putin will realize how abysmally his shopkeeper arithmetic failed when Trump offers Jolani a bigger sack of money and he stabs him in the back. A mercenary is only by your side till you keep giving him more money than your enemy. 

Putin should have learnt this with preghozin, atleast putin executed preghozin the merc thug for his treason, but for some reason this wasn't enough of a clue for him to stop trusting mercs who worship money. 

[Ashvazdanghe]

Salam anyway as a though if Russia due to deal with Syria  will control Syrian's airspace against invasion of rogue zionist Israel war planes or at least will reduce it it can be beneficial for Turkey  & somehow both of Iraq & Iran because the Turkyie has a concern about possibility of air raids against it by the rogue zionist state ; so therefore it has mediated between Russia & it's proxy in Syria in order to secure syrian's air space by Russia for security of  the Turkyie .

Edited October 20 by Ashvazdanghe

[AbdusSibtayn]

If Iran and Hezbollah have 'Sunni blood on their hands' because they helped Assad stay in power against these nasibi ogres, then how does Russia also not have 'Sunni blood on its hands'? 

Russia provided valuable military and diplomatic help to Assad throughout the civil war. How are diplomatic relations with Russia justifiable then? 

Given that Russia helped Assad 'butcher Sunnis' in Syria, how can it be a geopolitical partner? 

All along, the Sunni 'revolutionaries' were accusing us Shi'a, Iran and Hezbollah, of ideological inconsistency and opportunism- opposing one Baathist Saddam in Iraq , and supporting another Baathist Assad in Syria. Now what is their leadership doing I'm Syria? 

[Eddie Mecca]

21 hours ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

how does Russia also not have 'Sunni blood on its hands'? 

Hay'at Tahrir al-Sham (and Salafi militants in general) still hold onto deep feelings of hostility and resentment against Moscow... They talk about how godless and Marxist the Russians are as if it's still 1984... The Russians used to stamp Syria's money for them... The Takfiris stopped this practice... Russian military bases were subjected to armed attacks and the Russians were being pushed out by the Takfiris... Remember that the Russians were largely responsible for the collapse of ISIS, Al-Qaeda and Muslim Brotherhood activities in Syria... They (i.e. Salafis, Takfiris etc.) haven't forgotten nor have they forgiven the Russians for this... but it's survival time for the Wahhabis and they must recalibrate their thinking... Starting in late July, a shift in Wahhabi thinking has taken place... al-Julani finds himself in a very precarious and difficult situation... Israel keeps periodically bombing Syria with impunity and it's becoming frustrating and it's perpetually setting Syria back... al-Julani is weighing his options... He visited New York last month... I'm sure one of his chief complaints was the relentless Israeli bombardment of Syria... now he's visiting Putin in Moscow and he's seeking a possible reboot of relations with Moscow... Meeting with Putin gives al-Julani a new leverage and serves as a warning when negotiating with Netanyahu and Trump... He's playing the "be nice to me or else I might defect" card... A redeployment of Russian troops in the region will help stifle the erratic Israeli bombing campaigns... In early August, Russian troops were allowed to resume their patrols in NE Syria (first time since Assad's fall)... Takfiris requested that Russian patrols be reinvigorated in the southern provinces as well... A Russian territorial presence creates a balance with the Israeli military presence and helps to reduce Israeli operations... The Takfiris might be attempting to find a counterweight to the nonstop military bullying by Tel Aviv... Damascus might be flirting with idea of positioning itself somewhere between the Eastern and Western blocs and attempting to play the two against themselves... al-Julani sees the Israelis fighting ten wars simultaneously (i.e. Gaza, Lebanon, Iran, Yemen, Iraq etc.) like crazed madmen and doesn't want Syria added to that list... Also, remember the bombing of Qatar... The Kremlin can act as a restraining or stabilizing apparatus against the Zionist aggression in Damascus... Throughout the so-called Syrian Civil War, the Israelis avoided direct clashes with the Russians or the premeditated targeting of Russian posts... The new Takfiri authorities want to fully restore the presence of Moscow so they can reinstate this neutrality role of the Russians... Economic ties between the two countries are slowly being repaired and renewed... Damascus is allowing Moscow to print their currency for them once again... No doubt Ankara is advising al-Julani on what moves he should be making... the Jews do not fully trust the Turks either

Edited October 21 by Eddie Mecca
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[Eddie Mecca]

@Abu Nur, you are correct when you say that Muslims should not be seeking protection from non-Muslim sponsors... They are protectors and allies of one another... They will never befriend us wholeheartedly unless we embrace their particular religion or ideology... This is a good general rule of thumb for the Muslims to keep in mind and abide by... Also, we should keep in mind that the Christians are closer to the Muslims in affection and in love... Among them (i.e. the Christians) are priests and monks who are not arrogant... The Jews and the polytheists are the most bitter and hostile towards the believers (i.e. the Muslims)... The majority of them (the Jews and Christians) are perverted trangressors... Also, there are believers among them... Among them (Jews and Christians) are people who would readily return a large treasure... From among the very same community are those who would not return a single coin without constant demanding for repayment... Each community or denomination or individual should be assessed fairly and objectively... They are not all the same 

[Eddie Mecca]

@Abu Nur, Salaam brother,

Keep in mind the following... Iran and the Axis of Resistance didn't physically (i.e. militarily) intervene on Russia's behalf during the Russo-Ukraine war (2014 and is ongoing)... Does this make Tehran, Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis etc. traitors and betrayers? Professor Marandi said that he didn't agree with Russia's decision to initiate a war with neighboring Ukraine... but he said that he respects Putin's decision as an ally... Many pro-resistence people voiced or echoed this same sentiment... I disagree with this posture or framing of events... We should stand firm by our allies and vocally support them in a loud manner if their cause is just... We shouldn't be wishy-washy... NATO has Russia geographically surrounded and Putin has been extremely patient... Finland has joined NATO, Sweden has joined NATO, Norway (NATO), Poland (NATO), Lithuania (NATO)...  And Ukraine is trying to join NATO and if it succeeds it wants to bring in nukes and aim them at the Kremlin... NATO promised not to encroach on Russia's sphere of influence in the past and repeatedly broke its promise time and time again... The West is being extremely provocative... They're knocking on Putin's doorstep for God's sake... What did America do when the former U.S.S.R. sent nukes to Havana in 1962? Everyone in the entire world was sitting on the edge of their seats and expecting total nuclear obliteration during the Cuban Missile Crisis... What do people expect Putin to do? Hand Zelensky a dozen roses and a box of chocolates? 

Edited October 22 by Eddie Mecca
Correction

[Eddie Mecca]

@Abu Nur, Also, if the pact between Iran and Russia included a comprehensive and formal military alliance then we could accuse Russia of betrayal... but no such pact exists... The pact DOES NOT include a mutual defense clause... Neither country is obligated to come to the other's defense during an attack or war... The two nations have signed a twenty year "Strategic Patnership" with one another... This includes: 1.) The sharing of defense technology 2.) Information exchange 3.) Joint military exercises 4.) Cooperation on regional security etc.

[Eddie Mecca]

Iran Shocks Israel By Receiving Russian Su-35 jets in Leaked Bombshell - Danny Haiphong - Approximately 24 minutes - Streamed 2 days ago - "In a trove of leaked documents, Iran just changed the game by obtaining new Russian jets to prepare for war with Israel. Russian FM Sergei Lavrov didn't deny the leaks. Geopolitical analyst Mark Sleboda provides an analysis of why fortifying Iran is so important to Russia, and what it means for Round 2 of the US-Israel/Iran war."

 

Edited October 22 by Eddie Mecca
Correction

[Eddie Mecca]

@Abu Nur^^^ According to Mark Sleboda, Russia wanted to make a comprehensive military pact with Iran and it was the Iranians that turned it down

[Eddie Mecca]

Putin Threatens Netanyahu - Russia Will Destroy Israel - Approximately 34 minutes 

 

Edited October 23 by Eddie Mecca
Correction

[Eddie Mecca]

@Abu Nur, ^^^political commentator and analyst Larry C. Johnson says China and Russia approached Iran and wanted to formulate a comprehensive military pact between the three of them and Iran refused... watch the first 10 seconds of the video... it's the first thing that pops out of his mouth 

Edited October 23 by Eddie Mecca
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[Eddie Mecca]

"Russian Pilots Will Fly For Iran" -  Jamarl Thomas - 35 minutes 

 

[Hamdi999]

On 10/23/2025 at 12:43 AM, Eddie Mecca said:

@Abu Nur, ^^^political commentator and analyst Larry C. Johnson says China and Russia approached Iran and wanted to formulate a comprehensive military pact between the three of them and Iran refused... watch the first 10 seconds of the video... it's the first thing that pops out of his mouth 

Which is true, iran refused, in order to focus on self reliance and they don't see a need for russia or china protecting them. 

Edited October 26 by Hamdi999

[Eddie Mecca]

1 hour ago, Hamdi999 said:

Which is true, iran refused, in order to focus on self reliance and they don't see a need for russia or china protecting them.

But now Iran has awoken from its slumber and has accepted Chinese and Russian help

[AbdusSibtayn]

How Jeffrey Epstein, ex-Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barack, and Russia's Putin came together to arrive at an agreement to get rid of Assad in Syria, betraying the Shia and Iran. 

https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/jeffrey-epstein-ehud-barak-putin-israel-russia-syria-war-depose-assad

Now we know how Assad fell so easily.