Major US activist and Trump ally Charlie Kirk assassinated - Mossad?

[Silas]

Charlie Kirk was shot to death today by a gunman from over 200 feet away --one shot through the spine

Shooter escaped, but then was arrested.

Kirk has a lot of enemies, and it could have been a left-wing activist, but in the last few weeks, he openly declared that Jeffrey Epstein was connected to Israel and Mossad --and the criminal's protected status was a result of his involvement in the intelligence community.

His remarks and interviews were condemned by the Jews

and today he gets shot dead 

https://www.dw.com/en/us-conservative-pundit-charlie-kirk-shot-dead-in-utah/a-73954370

 

[Jeffrey-N]

R.I.P. Charlie Kirk

He stood for good values (ie. Christianity, anti-abortion, anti-lgbt, common sense etc).

Even if you don't like him, he has a family, and he's still just another human.

This is not going to help the case for liberals, shooting him is just fueling the fire. More people are going to be enraged by the left, people are going to care more. It's just making me more conservative.

[ILuvMuhammadSAW]

14 minutes ago, Jeffrey-N said:

R.I.P. Charlie Kirk

He stood for good values (ie. Christianity, anti-abortion, anti-lgbt, common sense etc).

Even if you don't like him, he has a family, and he's still just another human.

This is not going to help the case for liberals, shooting him is just fueling the fire. More people are going to be enraged by the left, people are going to care more. It's just making me more conservative.

Yeah, me personally i never really liked him, but never wished for him to be dead, he is a father, a husband, has kids and its honestly sad how he passed so unjustly and so quickly at a seemingly normal event for him to attend

 

[ShiaChat Mod]

6 hours ago, Silas said:

Charlie Kirk was shot to death today by a gunman from over 200 feet away --one shot through the spine

Shooter escaped, but then was arrested.

Two people were arrested and released. No suspect is in custody.  

[Hameedeh]

A witness to the Charlie Kirk shooting, according to CBS, said he started debating about mass shootings and gun violence when he was shot. 

Edited September 11 by Hameedeh
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[Abu Nur]

12 hours ago, ILuvMuhammadSAW said:

Yeah, me personally i never really liked him, but never wished for him to be dead, he is a father, a husband, has kids and its honestly sad how he passed so unjustly and so quickly at a seemingly normal event for him to attend

 

It really amaze me how western Muslims have becoming so sympathetic to devils and their descendants and family who support the evilness. Because of this, Western Muslims will allow fitnah to happen and continue in earth. He is a fitnah monger who mocked Islam many times and who support Israel and Gaza genocide and supported the killing of Qasem Soleimani.

Edited September 11 by Abu Nur

[Jeffrey-N]

4 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

It really amaze me how western Muslims have becoming so sympathetic to devils and their descendants and family who support the evilness. Because of this, Western Muslims will allow fitnah to happen and continue in earth. He is a fitnah monger who mocked Islam many times and who support Israel and Gaza genocide and supported the killing of Qasem Soleimani.

So you're glad Kirk got shot? His children were ages 3 and 1. Also I don't think he's mocked Islam, he's certainly disagrees with a lot of their beliefs, but so do I (sometimes). He supports Israel, and although I don't agree much with him on that I certainly understand his perspective. As for Qasem Soleimani he was a corrupt Iranian terrorist who posed as a major threat to the US, and had killed US citizens before. Although I don't agree with the assassination, he was certainly a dangerous figure. 

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Clarification

[Abu Nur]

36 minutes ago, Jeffrey-N said:

So you're glad Kirk got shot? His children were ages 3 and 1. Also I don't think he's mocked Islam, he's certainly attacked their beliefs, but so have I. He supports Israel, and although I don't agree much with him on that I certainly understand his perspective. As for Qasem Soleimani he was a corrupt Iranian terrorist who posed as a major threat to the US, and had killed US citizens before. Although I don't agree with the assassination, he was certainly a dangerous figure. 

Absolute I'm glad, because these people demonstrated they don't deserve to have a living in Earth. Brainwashed evangelist Christians who can not distinguish between good and evil deserve no life in this Earth because nothing but war and corruption comes from them. I'm very empathic to Christians who can distinguish between good and evil and who always support the good cause and who will be great example for the future generation , they truly deserve Paradise with God. But not this evil man and everyone who supported him.

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As for Qasem Soleimani he was a corrupt Iranian terrorist who posed as a major threat to the US, and had killed US citizens before. Although I don't agree with the assassination, he was certainly a dangerous figure. 

He was not corrupt nor terrorist and he was not threat to the US, your country political and religious leaders brainwashed you very well, while you have absolute no idea who Qasem Soleimani is.

Edited September 11 by Abu Nur

[Guest Guest Abdalah]

13 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

Absolute I'm glad, because these people demonstrated they don't deserve to have a living in Earth. Brainwashed evangelist Christians who can not distinguish between good and evil deserve no life in this Earth because nothing but war and corruption comes from them. I'm very empathic to Christians who can distinguish between good and evil and who always support the good cause and who will be great example for the future generation , they truly deserve Paradise with God. But not this evil man and everyone who supported him.

He was not corrupt nor terrorist and he was not threat to the US, your country political and religious leaders brainwashed you very well, while you have absolute no idea who Qasem Soleimani is.

Qassem soleimani is the reason why isis terrorists and al quaeda terrorists which america funded in syria were sent to hell. He was the reason why so many christians even survived for 8 more years before america and turkey toppled bashar with a rebrand of al quaeda. 

Always leave it to some conservative to repeat trumps nonsense uncritically. Trump will forever be cursed by Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) for killing a hero like soleimani.

[notme]

I am not sad.  The man was straight up evil.  

However, I can not condone violence like this.  Assassination is a cowardly method.  Besides, the man was irrelevant so there is no benefit to eliminating him.  And now the fascists are going to use it as an excuse to escalate their reign of terror.  

 

58 minutes ago, Jeffrey-N said:

That is just false, US did not fund ISIS or Al-Qaeda.

You need to learn your history.  It isn't even a secret or a conspiracy theory that the US funds anyone who opposes their enemies, and those funds have indeed gone to ISIS and Al-Qaeda affiliated groups at times, among other terrorist groups. 

 

18 hours ago, ILuvMuhammadSAW said:

Yeah, me personally i never really liked him, but never wished for him to be dead, he is a father, a husband, has kids and its honestly sad how he passed so unjustly and so quickly at a seemingly normal event for him to attend

 

Ok but won't his children grow up to be better people when not under his influence? Unless, of course, the mother is just as evil.  It's not sad, and justice has nothing to do with it.  I disagree with the assassination, but only because it will cause much harm.  The only way good could come of it would be if it led to other fascists seeing the error of their ways, and that's not happening under the current regime.  

 

18 hours ago, Jeffrey-N said:

R.I.P. Charlie Kirk

May he be given justice in the afterlife.  

Edited September 11 by notme

[Jeffrey-N]

9 minutes ago, Abu Hassanain said:

whatever you think of our leaders in the east, you do realize that Trump may Allah remove his mercy from him constantly praise his dictators authoritarians Ida Amin he can blame that how come he doesn’t have great titles like he had Kim Jungun he complained how come his people stand for him and clap. When he speaks why doesn’t he have respect whatever you think of Iran Syria Russia if Trump could he would be 10,000 times worse

I never said I liked Trump, I don't really like him. I like him a lot more than you do, and my statement was mostly because the person I was talking to cursed Trump while praising Qasem.

11 minutes ago, Abu Hassanain said:

I knew of him in New York my wife father did business with him in New York believe me if Trump could make a giant statue of gold like in his AI videos in Jerusalem he would if Trump could make everyone bow down and worship his image he would Trump said in  94 Trump is the god of Trump

I don't think this is credible, so...

12 minutes ago, Abu Hassanain said:

He is using christains as useful idiots just as use Muslims as useful idiots in the last election a prominent prayer leader in Dearborn joined hands with him to actually, two but one was more public. The one who is more public he screwed him out of leading the prayer at his inauguration no one who joins hands with him achieve what they want.

Also not credible, can you cite wherever got this information?

12 minutes ago, Abu Hassanain said:

Everybody from Michigan knows the people I’m referring to the situation of joining with someone because he claims to be against gays when there’s a videotape of him rubbing a trans girls buttocks, and talking about she’s beautiful in one of his old Miss universe day interviews

 

There's no such clip as far as I'm aware, if you provide it I can check it out. He did make some inappropriate comments in the past but that was 20+ years ago and for some he's even apologized.

14 minutes ago, Abu Hassanain said:

This is one of the most dangerous people more dangerous than other leaders who have clear political agenda because Trump’s agenda changes according to his mood and what he wakes up, thinking that day

I don't know, it really depends, his policy is consistent.

[Jeffrey-N]

33 minutes ago, notme said:

I am not sad.  The man was straight up evil.  

However, I can not condone violence like this.  Assassination is a cowardly method.  Besides, the man was irrelevant so there is no benefit to eliminating him.  And now the fascists are going to use it as an excuse to escalate their reign of terror.  

I'm very sad about his death. The claim that he is evil is baseless as you have provided zero evidence for such a statement. Also, I don't know where you live, but in the US he's pretty relevant. Just look at the crowd sizes from students from just single universities. And then you say "reign of terror". What are we even doing now, in America we at least have freedom and don't get executed by our government for disagreeing with (someone remember Qasem...). If you want to see reign of terror just visit literally any Muslim country in North Africa or the Middle East. 

33 minutes ago, notme said:

You need to learn your history.  It isn't even a secret or a conspiracy theory that the US funds anyone who opposes their enemies, and those funds have indeed gone to ISIS and Al-Qaeda affiliated groups at times, among other terrorist groups. 

So in conclusion, the US funded a group that supported another person, that might have been associated with another group, that was working with ISIS? The US didn't directly fund ISIS. If anything got to ISIS it was misallocated.

33 minutes ago, notme said:

Ok but won't his children grow up to be better people when not under his influence? Unless, of course, the mother is just as evil.  It's not sad, and justice has nothing to do with it.  I disagree with the assassination, but only because it will cause much harm.  The only way good could come of it would be if it led to other fascists seeing the error of their ways, and that's not happening under the current regime.  

You're still throwing around "fascist" for no reason. You should look up the definition of that. I think Kirk is a great father, he represents it in his moral values, and like I said, I like a lot of what he stands for. Even if you don't like him his children will grow up better with a father. But of course, as you continue your dehumanization rant, it makes me think you believe him to be Satan incarnate so you might be evil enough to want him dead even with his his children. 

33 minutes ago, notme said:

May he be given justice in the afterlife.  

May he be given reward in the afterlife, he died young, rest in peace, Charlie Kirk.

Edited September 11 by Jeffrey-N

[Haji 2003]

Worth a watch - both videos

 

[notme]

1 hour ago, Jeffrey-N said:

The claim that he is evil is baseless

Would you like to define "evil", or would you be content with my definition? I can't build a base without an agreement on definitions.  

 

1 hour ago, Jeffrey-N said:

If you want to see reign of terror

I do not.  That's why I oppose the current regime in the US. 

 

1 hour ago, Jeffrey-N said:

If anything got to ISIS it was misallocated.

Indeed it was.  

Syria. 

 

1 hour ago, Jeffrey-N said:

I think Kirk is a great father, he represents it in his moral values, and like I said, I like a lot of what he stands for. Even if you don't like him his children will grow up better with a father.

Cool. I think people who grow up with hatemonger parents turn out to be hatemongers.  But we can disagree on this. 

[Jeffrey-N]

39 minutes ago, notme said:

Would you like to define "evil", or would you be content with my definition? I can't build a base without an agreement on definitions.  

Sure, I'd like to hear your definition of evil. Also I'd point out that I'm not sure if we can say any human is objectively evil since everyone has the ability to change and the free will to choose right. But for the sake of argument, present your case.

39 minutes ago, notme said:

I do not.  That's why I oppose the current regime in the US. 

"Regime". Presidents get replaced every 4 years, and presidents can only serve 8 years maximum. (Since 1910). Very much unlike the Iranian leader who remains for life.

39 minutes ago, notme said:

Indeed it was.  

Syria. 

So you have one example of the US accidentally maybe funding Al-Qaeda

38 minutes ago, notme said:

Cool. I think people who grow up with hatemonger parents turn out to be hatemongers.  But we can disagree on this. 

I agree with that statement usually, not always. Last I checked Charlie Kirk isn't a hatemonger.

[notme]

41 minutes ago, Jeffrey-N said:

Sure, I'd like to hear your definition of evil. Also I'd point out that I'm not sure if we can say any human is objectively evil since everyone has the ability to change and the free will to choose right. But for the sake of argument, present your case.

Evil would be any person or organization that seeks benefit for its members at the expense of others, who sows division rather than unity, who believes in the innate superiority of their in-group instead of believing that The Creator created all human beings with equal care, attention, and importance.  Evil people or organizations wilfully allow and even may encourage rule by fear.  

 

41 minutes ago, Jeffrey-N said:

So you have one example of the US accidentally maybe funding Al-Qaeda

Certainly more than once, but even if only one, you're OK with that? That's how you like to see your taxes spent? 

 

41 minutes ago, Jeffrey-N said:

Charlie Kirk isn't a hatemonger.

One cannot support the Trump regime - or whoever is the next figurehead of it - without being a hatemonger. 

[Jeffrey-N]

30 minutes ago, notme said:

Evil would be any person or organization that seeks benefit for its members at the expense of others, who sows division rather than unity, who believes in the innate superiority of their in-group instead of believing that The Creator created all human beings with equal care, attention, and importance.  Evil people or organizations wilfully allow and even may encourage rule by fear.  

 

Sure, Kirk doesn't fit this though.

30 minutes ago, notme said:

Certainly more than once, but even if only one, you're OK with that? That's how you like to see your taxes spent? 

Of course I don't like it. But keep in mind it was under 100 million dollars over 4 years, and it's likely the majority didn't go to ISIS or Al-Qaeda. In comparison the US has given 280 billion dollars to Ukraine over 3 years, which is around 2800 times the amount.

36 minutes ago, notme said:

One cannot support the Trump regime - or whoever is the next figurehead of it - without being a hatemonger. 

Regime? Whatever. I certainly disagree with what you're saying.

[Guest Guest Abdalah]

@Jeffrey-N

I noiticed you keep repeating "you gave no evidence" to everyone you argue with, but if you expect people to give you evidence to every sentence they make, then you need to do the same and you need to give a source that atleast isn't trash, because if you give AIPAC as a source like you just did, people won't take it seriously and rightfully so. 

 

I certainly will stop wasting time with you, as you're not taking this discussion seriously, you're just spamming "you have no evidence" whilst giving one or two sources that are absolute trash that no one takes seriously and then you expect people waste time with this and then you go on to make a bunch of unsubstantiated claims yourself without sources, like HTS terrorists being better as one example. 

You have to understand some of us have had these debates hundreds of times in the last years, so it gets tiring to having to constantly debunk this rubbish. 

[Jeffrey-N]

Feel free to ignore this and not respond, but I really feel the need to defend myself.

1 hour ago, Guest Guest Abdalah said:

I noiticed you keep repeating "you gave no evidence" to everyone you argue with, but if you expect people to give you evidence to every sentence they make, then you need to do the same and you need to give a source that atleast isn't trash, because if you give AIPAC as a source like you just did, people won't take it seriously and rightfully so. 

I don't often say "you gave no evidence" but if someone, say, doesn't give any evidence and to support their claim then I don't know how to respond. For the AIPAC article, I actually expected you to do something like this, but it doesn't really matter, because the sources AIPAC uses are reliable and the claims it makes are accurate. I'm fully aware it's biased, but that doesn't change the evidence you gave in the article.

1 hour ago, Guest Guest Abdalah said:

I certainly will stop wasting time with you, as you're not taking this discussion seriously, you're just spamming "you have no evidence" whilst giving one or two sources that are absolute trash that no one takes seriously and then you expect people waste time with this and then you go on to make a bunch of unsubstantiated claims yourself without sources, like HTS terrorists being better as one example. 

What are we doing, I tried to be polite and I get this. You make baseless claims, and then run away acting like I'm the one trying to waste time. For the HTS being better than Assad, I actually did provide sources for that, I gave a link to all the examples of the crimes Assad did against his own citizens. You on the other hand gave sources for absolutely nothing, so quit complaining. 

1 hour ago, Guest Guest Abdalah said:

You have to understand some of us have had these debates hundreds of times in the last years, so it gets tiring to having to constantly debunk this rubbish. 

Sure, I could say the exact same thing and neither would change the truth in the slightest.

[Abu Hassanain]

8 minutes ago, Jeffrey-N said:

Feel free to ignore this and not respond, but I really feel the need to defend myself.

I don't often say "you gave no evidence" but if someone, say, doesn't give any evidence and to support their claim then I don't know how to respond. For the AIPAC article, I actually expected you to do something like this, but it doesn't really matter, because the sources AIPAC uses are reliable and the claims it makes are accurate. I'm fully aware it's biased, but that doesn't change the evidence you gave in the article.

What are we doing, I tried to be polite and I get this. You make baseless claims, and then run away acting like I'm the one trying to waste time. For the HTS being better than Assad, I actually did provide sources for that, I gave a link to all the examples of the crimes Assad did against his own citizens. You on the other hand gave sources for absolutely nothing, so quit complaining. 

Sure, I could say the exact same thing and neither would change the truth in the slightest.

Salam

could not find the video of him touching the trans woman’s buttocks online anymore, but I have seen that it did not look edited to me

The 1994 interview I have seen that also with my own eyes because I remember people going nuts about it in 2017 or 18 can’t find it anywhere online. I’m thinking that was CBS New York or good morning America. It was a New York base show.

As far as the golden statues, if you look at the stupid AI video they did. They did have golden statues of him at one point in it. Again, I’m not a big tech person I seen that someone posted it somewhere possibly my brother who is a lot in the online stuff sent that to me and I don’t think he would send something fake because he’s not particularly fond of organized religion, evangelical, Trump Republicans, Democrats Jews, Muslims, Christian or anybody that’s not him. He is very random views that are all over the place so again I don’t specifically think that he would send a fake anti-Trump video for instance.
 

What I can find evidence for I sent what I couldn’t find. I know I have seen.

as for Salman Rushdie he did not simply criticize his alarm. He insulted the holy prophet, peace, and blessings, be upon him and became as someone who was born Muslim and considered himself Muslim a Muharb, that is why the death sentence rolling said, even if he repent and becomes the most pious person on the planet he must be killed that is similar for the basis that the narrations indicate they contrary to the modern view the repentance of an apostate is never accepted, and they must be executed. That for instance is why I never liked or accepted my mother-in-law. She had left Islam than  supposedly came back years later. OK that was one reason of dozens, but that was probably the biggest reason I always liked my father-in-law. He was a great man.
 

As for HTS, they are much worse than the previous government. The new government is going out of their way to oppress the followers of the holy 14 to promote a radical Harbi Salafi world view, I also wouldn’t be surprised if they make peace with or recognize Israel. They are much worse for ethnic minorities and the followers of the holy 14 and they are much worse in general.
 

 

[ILuvMuhammadSAW]

14 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

It really amaze me how western Muslims have becoming so sympathetic to devils and their descendants and family who support the evilness. Because of this, Western Muslims will allow fitnah to happen and continue in earth. He is a fitnah monger who mocked Islam many times and who support Israel and Gaza genocide and supported the killing of Qasem Soleimani.

When i meant "Its sad how quickly and swiftly his life got taken at an event seemingly so normal for him", by "sad" i meant shocking, because i bet 99% of the people there were not expecting him to get shot, and no im not sympathetic to him, who i AM sympathetic towards his family, his daughters have no father and his wife has no husband.

[Eddie Mecca]

[Jeffrey-N]

12 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

https://babylonbee.com/news/world-deemed-unworthy-of-charlie-kirk

 

[StrangerInThisWorld]

I personally don't know this guy, but as Muslims we're obviously opposed to extrajudical killings.

That being said, I saw a video right now, where he was literally defending the genocidal criminals that are slaughtering people in front of the eyes of the whole world and who are actively committing ethnical cleansing. This alone makes him an evil person and I have zero sympathy for oppressors and those who are inclined towards them. 

Then I saw another video, where it's stated that he started criticizing these oppressors for once and that's what got him killed. 

 

Then:

- The USA is an evil state, which was built upon slaughtering the native population 

- The USA have killed millions of people in the Middle East and elsewhere and this for the sake of power and being exalted upon earth

- As such they have no moral authority whatsoever and them regarding anyone as terrorist is a complete joke 

- The USA supported ISIS (which was heavily infiltrated by Western intelligence agencies anyways) through weapons and many people in Iraq saw this with their own eyes. Even Soldiers fighting AGAINST ISIS saw this. The issue reached such a degree that the USA even admitted once to "mistakenly" having thrown down weapons for them

- ISIS, al-Nusra and other so called "Salafi Jihadis" are influenced by Umayyad "Islam" and the "Islam" preached by the Wahhabiyya and have no connection to the original Islamic message. The USA had even asked Saudi Arabia to export this fake version of "Islam" to the Muslims as Ibn Salman himself admitted

 

Edited September 12 by StrangerInThisWorld

[Hameedeh]

Off-topic posts have taken over this thread. It seems this topic is not about Charlie Kirk or the shooter, even though the news has identified him. 

[Hamdi999]

1 hour ago, Hameedeh said:

Off-topic posts have taken over this thread. It seems this topic is not about Charlie Kirk or the shooter, even though the news has identified him. 

Well this is partially my fault for this happening (i am guest adballah), i should have known better than to waste time with this obvious trolling. I promise from my side I will stick to the topic. 

 

As for the shooter, he has been identified, he is Tyler Robbinson 22 years. The suspects father brought him to the police after Tyler confessed to him what he did. He was also seen wearing a suicide vest, one that is meant for people who are on a high risk of commiting suicide, it seems like they made up their minds and will execute him, so they don't want him commiting suicide. 

 

Here is the video on his arrest:

 

 

Whats intresting is how some republicans who called for his death penalty, suddenly switched to "i hope the lord forgives him", once they found out he wasn't some other ethnicity or some communist leftist. 

[notme]

ANYWAY....

Kirk was not a good person. He spread hatred and divided the people. 

Shortly before his death, he criticized Israel and admitted that it might be committing genocide. He led his followers in demanding the release of the Epstein client list. 

And he was shot, allegedly by a conservative Mormon college dropout affiliated with the Groyper group. 

May he receive his due in the afterlife. 

 

Edited September 13 by notme
Typo

[Hamdi999]

2 hours ago, notme said:

ANYWAY....

Kirk was not a good person. He spread hatred and divided the people. 

Shortly before his death, he criticized Israel and admitted that it might be committing genocide. He led his followers in demanding the release of the Epstein client list. 

And he was shot, allegedly by a conservative Mormon college dropout affiliated with the Groyper group. 

May he receive his due in the afterlife. 

 

Thats the tweet reffering to this:

 

He might have changed last second, but I am certain he will most probably have a hard time in the afterlife, his track record is not that good, he has a LOT of explaining to do infront of Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى). 

[Hamdi999]

 

Tweet says: 

Charlie Kirk was assassinated on 9/10. Since then the government has:

 

- Blocked Epstein file release 

- Passed amendment that bans Pentagon from boycotting Israel

- Proposed a bill for Rubio revoke passports for Israel critics

- House approves 650M+ for Israels missile defense

- Marco Rubio visits Israel

 

 

 

The part of his tweet I put in bold is especially worrying, if I remeber he used Kirks assasination to justify this too. 

[Silas]

The guy who shot Kirk is a degenerate with terrible ideology and morals, and is an equal enemy to Christianity as he is to Islam

many of us have issue with Kirk, disagree with much of what he has said in the past (my complaints have to do with Kirk's support of Israel and his grifting), but it really isn't about him

it is about lost souls in this country (the US) gunning down people they disagree with. 

those people are not allies of anyone

[Hamdi999]

Transcript of Charlie kirk killer in this link:

https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/charlie-kirk-suspect-confession-court-docs/

"Police obtained a photograph of the mentioned note.

Tyler Robinson details motive in messages with roommate: court doc

The roommate allegedly responded, “What?????????????? You’re joking, right????”

Robinson replied, “I am still ok my love, but am stuck in orem for a little while longer yet. Shouldn’t be long until I can come home, but I gotta grab my rifle still. To be honest I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age. I am sorry to involve you,” the documents stated. 

The roommate questioned if Robinson was the shooter, according to text transcripts in the indictment (warning this exchange includes profanity and graphic language):

Roommate: you weren’t the one who did it right???? 

Robinson: I am, I’m sorry 

Roommate: I thought they caught the person? 

Robinson: no, they grabbed some crazy old dude, then interrogated someone in similar clothing. I had planned to grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after, but most of that side of town got locked down. Its quiet, almost enough to get out, but theres one vehicle lingering.

Roommate: Why?

Robinson: Why did I do it?

Roommate: Yeah

Robinson: I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can’t be negotiated out. If I am able
to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence. Going to attempt to
retrieve it again, hopefully they have moved on. I haven’t seen anything
about them finding it.
…
Roommate: How long have you been planning this?
Robinson: a bit over a week I believe. I can get close to it but there is a squad car
parked right by it. I think they already swept that spot, but I don’t wanna
chance it
…
Robinson: I’m wishing I had circled back and grabbed it as soon as I got to my
vehicle. … I’m worried what my old man would do if I didn’t bring back
grandpas rifle … idek if it had a serial number, but it wouldn’t trace to me.
I worry about prints I had to leave it in a bush where I changed outfits.
didn’t have the ability or time to bring it with. … I might have to abandon
it and hope they don’t find prints. how the f@@@ will I explain losing it to
my old man. …
only thing I left was the rifle wrapped in a towel. …
remember how I was engraving bullets? The f@@@in messages are mostly a
big meme, if I see “notices bulge uwu” on fox new I might have a stroke
alright im gonna have to leave it, that really f@@@ing sucks. …
9
judging from today I’d say grandpas gun does just fine idk. I think that
was a $2k scope ;-;
…
Robinson: delete this exchange

Robinson: my dad wants photos of the rifle … he says grandpa wants to know
who has what, the feds released a photo of the rifle, and it is very
unique. Hes calling me rn, not answering.
…
Robinson: since trump got into office [my dad] has been pretty diehard maga.
…
Robinson: Im gonna turn myself in willingly, one of my neighbors here is a
deputy for the sheriff.

Robinson: you are all I worry about love

Roommate: I’m much more worried about you

Robinson: don’t talk to the media please. don’t take any interviews or make
any comments. … if any police ask you questions ask for a lawyer
and stay silent"

--------------- end of text messages ---------------

Many people are calling it fake and it's making people suspiciois. 

[Abu Nur]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOpNTMOjVQc/?l=1

May God rotten this arrogant coward in hell and all of those who laughed with him.  

Edited September 17 by Abu Nur

[TheNobleLion]

Kirk was very open in his dislike for Islam, and until recently, supported Israel's genocide against Palestine. Not sure why some folk come to a Shia Islam forum expecting some kind of outpouring of love and grief at his death. If a man comes to my street once a week to speak against my family's way of life even though we have done him no wrong, I wouldn't shoot him, but I'm sure as heck not going to be heartbroken finding out that someone else did. In that situation, it's normal for any average human being to feel relief, not grief.

That being said, I don't exactly think it's a good precedent to just go around shooting whoever you want. I'm not sure that the average person should get to enforce the law, Islamic or otherwise.

[TheNobleLion]

Although I may not agree with him on everything, I'm starting to understand brother Abu Nur's frustration with you, Jeffrey. It's becoming abundantly clear that you only have interest in using sources biased towards one side, and have no interest in using any semblance of logic. 

"Israel could destroy them instantly if they wanted to"

No, they couldn't. Not unless they wanted to be besieged by nearly every middle-eastern power out there. Hence, like the cowards they are, they slowly oppress those who cannot fight back and constantly push the boundaries while taking the occasional step back to calm said powers. China and Russia are far stronger powers than Israel, but you don't see them "instantly take out" Taiwan and Ukraine, do you?

Interesting, on Kirk, you had to say:

"Even if you don't like him, he has a family, and he's still just another human."

And

"So you're glad Kirk got shot? His children were ages 3 and 1."

But when it comes to 50,000 innocent Palestinian childern, you try so hard to find ways that the killers aren't blamed or blamed to a lesser degree. For your sake, I hope you're just misguided or brainwashed by propaganda.

"I said they don't target children."

Right, because 50,000 is a figure that's easy to miss. Are you serious?! This is not 1 or 2 children, it's more than 50,000. There aren't even enough Hamas members to use that many children as a shield. Many of these children also died in residential areas, which had nothing to do with the alleged "schools and hospitals with weapons", as you say. I hope you don't proceed to give me the nonsense of "Israeli intel probably found Hamas in those residential areas too" because it's clear that Israeli intel can find Hamas in Antartica if it means killing the people they want. Reflect on yourself a little.

[notme]

Should we split off all the "Jeff thinks Zionism is cool" posts and their replies into a new topic? 

I tried bringing it back on topic but nobody came back with me.