Zohran Mamdani (NYC Mayoral candidate)

[Hamdi999]

17 minutes ago, Hamdi999 said:

Well, Mamdani is just another bernie sanders unfortunatley from what I have seen, meaning he is better than the others, but he is still going to have terrible takes because he is part of the democratic party which is inherently corrupt and evil and he will only be controlled opposition. He is set up to fail and will probably be used ad the poster boy for "socialism/muslim politicians never work" even though hes not even a socialist or a practicing muslim to begin with and that will be that. 

 

Also his foreign policy takes are somewhat terrible, they're essentially mirroring bernie sanders, although a bit better, but I don't know why he even feels the need to talk about this stuff as new yorks mayor, it's not even his job, he could have just said nothing here. 

 

I don't know his intent, if hes a plant meant to sow division, if hes genuine but a coward, if hes genuine and doing some 500 IQ move changing the system from within. But similar to bernie sanders, I advise everyone here to not be too invested into him, just wait and see. 

 

 

Either way, it's funny seeing the gop loose it over mamdani for the wrong/dumbest reasons, so here is some funny pictures circulating since he won:

 

 

Here is more:

[Abu Hassanain]

1 hour ago, Hamdi999 said:

Well, Mamdani is just another bernie sanders unfortunatley from what I have seen, meaning he is better than the others, but he is still going to have terrible takes because he is part of the democratic party which is inherently corrupt and evil and he will only be controlled opposition. He is set up to fail and will probably be used ad the poster boy for "socialism/muslim politicians never work" even though hes not even a socialist or a practicing muslim to begin with and that will be that. 

 

Also his foreign policy takes are somewhat terrible, they're essentially mirroring bernie sanders, although a bit better, but I don't know why he even feels the need to talk about this stuff as new yorks mayor, it's not even his job, he could have just said nothing here. 

 

I don't know his intent, if hes a plant meant to sow division, if hes genuine but a coward, if hes genuine and doing some 500 IQ move changing the system from within. But similar to bernie sanders, I advise everyone here to not be too invested into him, just wait and see. 

 

 

Either way, it's funny seeing the gop loose it over mamdani for the wrong/dumbest reasons, so here is some funny pictures circulating since he won:

 

 

Salam

few people who didn’t grow up in New York and we’re involved with the politics there know this

In New York City, the mayor deals with the UN foreign presidents, all the embassies and consulates international business leaders more so than even the governor of New York, most governors and the majority of senators and congressman

Being the mayor of New York is like being a mini president

When a foreign rulers come from Muslim countries, he’ll be the one they meet with. He’ll be the one that goes to the different Islamic centers for instance 

Plus, New York is a city with roughly 1,000,000 Muslims 2 million Jews and millions of Asian  African Hispanic European first generation immigrants

Being mayor of New York, put in unique position for international relations, work and understanding

[AbdusSibtayn]

3 hours ago, Hamdi999 said:

Well, Mamdani is just another bernie sanders unfortunatley from what I have seen, meaning he is better than the others, but he is still going to have terrible takes because he is part of the democratic party which is inherently corrupt and evil and he will only be controlled opposition. He is set up to fail and will probably be used ad the poster boy for "socialism/muslim politicians never work" even though hes not even a socialist or a practicing muslim to begin with and that will be that. 

 

Also his foreign policy takes are somewhat terrible, they're essentially mirroring bernie sanders, although a bit better, but I don't know why he even feels the need to talk about this stuff as new yorks mayor, it's not even his job, he could have just said nothing here. 

 

I don't know his intent, if hes a plant meant to sow division, if hes genuine but a coward, if hes genuine and doing some 500 IQ move changing the system from within. But similar to bernie sanders, I advise everyone here to not be too invested into him, just wait and see. 

 

 

Either way, it's funny seeing the gop loose it over mamdani for the wrong/dumbest reasons, so here is some funny pictures circulating since he won:

 

 

This is what I feel too. 

Also, let the rednecks seethe, who cares?! 

[Hamdi999]

8 hours ago, Abu Hassanain said:

Salam

few people who didn’t grow up in New York and we’re involved with the politics there know this

In New York City, the mayor deals with the UN foreign presidents, all the embassies and consulates international business leaders more so than even the governor of New York, most governors and the majority of senators and congressman

Being the mayor of New York is like being a mini president

When a foreign rulers come from Muslim countries, he’ll be the one they meet with. He’ll be the one that goes to the different Islamic centers for instance 

Plus, New York is a city with roughly 1,000,000 Muslims 2 million Jews and millions of Asian  African Hispanic European first generation immigrants

Being mayor of New York, put in unique position for international relations, work and understanding

Ok, this makes more sense, however I still urge caution and urge people not to make the same mistake they did with bernie and not have these extreemly high hopes. With zohrani there is still a lot of red flags with him. Best thing to do is just sit and wait and see what will happen.

 

[Muhammed Ali]

A number of pro-Palestinians are already accusing him of being a Zionist and controlled opposition. This shows a lack of wisdom. They should give him support and see what he does before making any such accusations. Right now they don't have an alternative to support. At the very least he has shifted the rhetoric. 

People like this tend to think that if a person is making some compromises for tactical reasons then they must belong to the other side. Like when Umar asked if the Prophet {a} was really a prophet because he signed the treaty of Hudaybiyyah.

 

Edited November 6 by Muhammed Ali

[Panzerwaffe]

10 hours ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

This is what I feel too. 

Also, let the rednecks seethe, who cares?! 

Right 

and I hope Iran is able to rebuild it’s relationship with US 

[Panzerwaffe]

1 hour ago, Muhammed Ali said:

A number of pro-Palestinians are already accusing him of being a Zionist and controlled opposition. This shows a lack of wisdom. They should give him support and see what he does before making any such accusations. Right now they don't have an alternative to support. At the very least he has shifted the rhetoric. 

People like this tend to think that if a person is making some compromises for tactical reasons then they must belong to the other side. Like when Umar asked if the Prophet {a} was really a prophet because he signed the treaty of Hudaybiyyah.

 

If wahabis hate him and he does a good job that reflects positively on Shias 

I say let all fractures appear both in left and right wing 

[Hamdi999]

2 hours ago, Muhammed Ali said:

A number of pro-Palestinians are already accusing him of being a Zionist and controlled opposition. This shows a lack of wisdom. They should give him support and see what he does before making any such accusations. Right now they don't have an alternative to support. At the very least he has shifted the rhetoric. 

People like this tend to think that if a person is making some compromises for tactical reasons then they must belong to the other side. Like when Umar asked if the Prophet {a} was really a prophet because he signed the treaty of Hudaybiyyah.

 

Well to be fair he technically is a zionist, he openly said he has 0 problems with the existance of israel which by definition makes him a zionist. Mamdani is simply an anti likud/natenyahu social democrat. Unless again hes doing taqqiyah and is secretly trying to change the system from within, I don't see any reason to doubt he is a zionist. 

 

If Yitzhak rabin, Shimon Peres, Ehud barak, etc... were still alive/presidents(labour party), Mamdani would have 0 problems with israel and would most likley defend them, this is the position of democrats. Democrats have 0 problems with israel as long as it pretends to be some liberal haven, they don't care about the colonialism or the settlments it's doing, they will mostly turn a blind eye to israels crimes. 

 

And he is showing a lot of signs of being controlled opposition like bernie. But again, he might be doing taqqiyah, so it's best to wait. I doubt he will get far if he is doing taqqiyah, he will most likley fail due to sabotage and the snakes in power in the US, will use his failiure to smear islam and socialism. 

 

 

Edit:

 

Correction, he goes further than most democrat leaders, as in he doesn't want israel to be the way it is, but if israel removed its apartheid system and became liberal/secular, he would have 0 issues with it, it's better than what most democrats beleive in, but he still wont have any issues being against decolonisation of israel. So in essence he goes further than most dem leaders, but he probably beleives in what most democrat voters beleive, they want israel to be like america, but they think it's extreeme to decolonise like algeria did with the french. 

For the life of me, I can't find the claim where he said he supported israel, but this is his most recent comment when asked that question:

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cew44175vklo

 

"Mamdani's strong support of Palestinians and staunch criticism of Israel goes further than most of the Democratic establishment.

As an assemblyman, he introduced a bill to end the tax-exempt status of New York charities with ties to Israeli settlements that violate international human rights law.

He has said he believes Israel is committing genocide in Gaza, is an apartheid state, and that the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu should be arrested. Israel vehemently rejects accusations of genocide and apartheid.

Mamdani has been pressed numerous times by press in interviews to state whether he supports Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state. In a response, he said: "I'm not comfortable supporting any state that has a hierarchy of citizenship on the basis of religion or anything else, I think that in the way that we have in this country, equality should be enshrined in every country in the world." "

Edited November 6 by Hamdi999

[Hamdi999]

1 hour ago, Panzerwaffe said:

If wahabis hate him and he does a good job that reflects positively on Shias 

I say let all fractures appear both in left and right wing 

I doubt they will hate him, his wife openly opposed bashar (thats if the claims are true), but she did condemn the hts attack on the druze, some wahhabis didn't seem to enjoy that. 

 

Anyways:

Edited November 7 by Hamdi999

[Hamdi999]

3 hours ago, Muhammed Ali said:

A number of pro-Palestinians are already accusing him of being a Zionist and controlled opposition. This shows a lack of wisdom. They should give him support and see what he does before making any such accusations. Right now they don't have an alternative to support. At the very least he has shifted the rhetoric. 

People like this tend to think that if a person is making some compromises for tactical reasons then they must belong to the other side. Like when Umar asked if the Prophet {a} was really a prophet because he signed the treaty of Hudaybiyyah.

 

Anyways I forgot to mention, you're absolutley right that people should wait before accusing him of anything, for all we know he could even be doing taqqiyah which is legitemate in this case if hes not being a coward. 

Edited November 7 by Hamdi999

[Muhammed Ali]

5 hours ago, Hamdi999 said:

Well to be fair he technically is a zionist, he openly said he has 0 problems with the existance of israel which by definition makes him a zionist. Mamdani is simply an anti likud/natenyahu social democrat. Unless again hes doing taqqiyah and is secretly trying to change the system from within, I don't see any reason to doubt he is a zionist. 

 

I think you should be more careful with how you reason and how you communicate. And perhaps put the edited part before the unedited part.

When you have a lot of evidence (which you likely don't know) showing that someone is anti-Zionist it would be a sin to accuse him of the opposite and make taqiyyah a secondary consideration. Imagine if you were a trying to win an election as a Muslim in the city with the 2nd highest number of Jews and against AIPAC money, and someone said he "is simply an anti likud/natenyahu social democrat. Unless again hes doing taqqiyah". "Taqiyyah" should be your first thought not an accusation of Zionism.

Any way watch this:

 

[Essentials123]

22 minutes ago, Muhammed Ali said:

Taqiyyah" should be your first thought not an accusation of Zionism.

Its a good point, we should do our best to support Muslims who succeed in some way rather than being very critical. Many Muslims such as Zohran have social needs of external support /belonging so we can try to meet them a bit better so they don’t have to turn to others for a sense of belonging. Otherwise it may be a self fulfilling prophecy to some degree why he isn’t there enough for Muslims etc. 

Edited November 7 by Azadeh307

[AbdusSibtayn]

3 hours ago, Muhammed Ali said:

I think you should be more careful with how you reason and how you communicate. And perhaps put the edited part before the unedited part.

When you have a lot of evidence (which you likely don't know) showing that someone is anti-Zionist it would be a sin to accuse him of the opposite and make taqiyyah a secondary consideration. Imagine if you were a trying to win an election as a Muslim in the city with the 2nd highest number of Jews and against AIPAC money, and someone said he "is simply an anti likud/natenyahu social democrat. Unless again hes doing taqqiyah". "Taqiyyah" should be your first thought not an accusation of Zionism.

Any way watch this:

 

If his win wasn't a setback for them they wouldn't be opposing him tooth and nail. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

11 hours ago, Muhammed Ali said:

A number of pro-Palestinians are already accusing him of being a Zionist and controlled opposition. This shows a lack of wisdom. They should give him support and see what he does before making any such accusations. Right now they don't have an alternative to support. At the very least he has shifted the rhetoric. 

People like this tend to think that if a person is making some compromises for tactical reasons then they must belong to the other side. Like when Umar asked if the Prophet {a} was really a prophet because he signed the treaty of Hudaybiyyah.

 

I don't understand this gatekeeping either. 

[Hamdi999]

3 hours ago, Muhammed Ali said:

I think you should be more careful with how you reason and how you communicate. And perhaps put the edited part before the unedited part.

When you have a lot of evidence (which you likely don't know) showing that someone is anti-Zionist it would be a sin to accuse him of the opposite and make taqiyyah a secondary consideration. Imagine if you were a trying to win an election as a Muslim in the city with the 2nd highest number of Jews and against AIPAC money, and someone said he "is simply an anti likud/natenyahu social democrat. Unless again hes doing taqqiyah". "Taqiyyah" should be your first thought not an accusation of Zionism.

Any way watch this:

 

Then I worded it wrongly, I clearly said multiple times we don't know his true intent. I was simply stating that its possible hes doing taqqiyah or not, I didn't assume hes doing taqqiyah as a secondary thing. Either way this is irrelevant as you're right I should have assumed first and foremost hes doing taqqiyah when condemning hamas, wanting a liberal version of israel without apartheid, etc... 

 

But I will still warn to please not form a kind of cult of personality with zohrani the same way it was done with bernie sanders and the squad, to the point where if you critiqued them, you would be called the devil. The whole point of my comments was to ask people to exercise caution and not fall into the same traps they fell with bernie and the squad. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

8 hours ago, Hamdi999 said:

I doubt they will hate him, his wife openly opposed bashar (thats if the claims are true), but she did condemn the hts attack on the druze, some wahhabis didn't seem to enjoy that. 

 

Anyways:

To be fair, opposition to Assad is the default liberal position too, so his wife might be meeting the Wahhabis at this horseshoe intersection. I don't think she's a closet wahhabi herself. 

Edited November 7 by AbdusSibtayn

[Hamdi999]

1 minute ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

To be fair, opposition to Assad is the default liberal position too, so his wife might be meeting the Wahhabis at this horseshoe intersection. 

Again it could well be taqqiyah, here is mamdani for example most likley doing taqqiyah for cuba and venezuella, hes being reluctant to call them dictatorships by giving the smart answer. This is after Jorge Ramos a millionaire tried trapping him with that question. 

 

 

So his wife could very well be doing the same. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

19 minutes ago, Hamdi999 said:

Again it could well be taqqiyah, here is mamdani for example most likley doing taqqiyah for cuba and venezuella, hes being reluctant to call them dictatorships by giving the smart answer. This is after Jorge Ramos a millionaire tried trapping him with that question. 

 

 

So his wife could very well be doing the same. 

It all boils down to one thing- he is still better compared to his rivals. 

[12456]

On 6/26/2025 at 9:13 PM, Northwest said:

The pro-Zionist ‘conservative’ forces are, for the most part, not trying to annihilate the family unit (through dysgenic social policies such as feminism and contraception), promote drug addiction, permanently Balkanise society, dismantle the modern economy, end free enterprise and so on.

How is the modern American economy a good thing in any way. It is completely anti-Islamic. It exploits workers, allows the rich to become filthy rich, leaves the poor out for dead and in crippling debt if they get sick or injured. It leaves people unable to have adequate nutrition. The closest western economic system to an Islamic system is a Social democracy, the nordic model. A free market that is regulated, and there is strong social welfare in the forms of free healthcare, housing, living wages, education, etc. Yes, an Islamic economy isn't democratic socialism, but it's certainly not American hyper-capitalism. If you look at Zohran's economic policy, the only real socialist policy is city-owned grocery stores. 

Islam does not promote the greed of the American right and centrists. America will never become a socialist state, but having a strong socialist presence will help push for stronger social welfare and income equality so the poor don't have to absolutely struggle just to survive, while the rich can kick their feet up and keep getting ridiculously richer.

[Hamdi999]

4 hours ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

It all boils down to one thing- he is still better compared to his rivals. 

Hes objectivley better, but what baffles me is why he thinks he can change the system from within when it's extreemly rotten to the core, it will change him for the worse if anything and he is being set up to fail from the start. 

 

On one hand he could have joined a third party, but that would have been a huge uphill battle, but he could have leveraged the rise of populism to his advantage to call out what both parties are.

On the other hand the democrat party gives him a pedistal as it's an established party, but it's extreemly corrupt, there is simply no changing it. If he goes too far, the many rich corporations/lobbies influencing the country will simply do something horrible to him or smear him to high heavens through media outlets to keep him in check. 

[Abu Hassanain]

1 hour ago, Hamdi999 said:

Hes objectivley better, but what baffles me is why he thinks he can change the system from within when it's extreemly rotten to the core, it will change him for the worse if anything and he is being set up to fail from the start. 

 

On one hand he could have joined a third party, but that would have been a huge uphill battle, but he could have leveraged the rise of populism to his advantage to call out what both parties are.

On the other hand the democrat party gives him a pedistal as it's an established party, but it's extreemly corrupt, there is simply no changing it. If he goes too far, the many rich corporations/lobbies influencing the country will simply do something horrible to him or smear him to high heavens through media outlets to keep him in check. 

Salam

You’re overthinking this in a number of the posts. His father taught Marxist philosophy at a college. His mother is a filmmaker. His mother and wife do not cover. He’s a Muslim by identity and most probably a degree of practice. I was just in New York if you ask the store owners and car people what time salon is the ones under 40 don’t know they’re probably thinking oh crap that white guy with a turban and a cloak just asked me an important question. Gotta pretend to know I know there’s like a prayer we eat after in that one month I’m not exaggerating. That’s how bad it’s gotten we went from enclaves to this. 
 

I don’t even know that his family was associated with Sijny in New York, supposedly they were but no one I know who goes there, remembers them ever coming there

Nobody remembers him or his family attending the Friday. Prayers anywhere there no one I’ve talked to remember seeing them attend war events, or fast breaking event

and I’m not saying this to smear or slander back bite the brother I’m just looking at the reality of the youth and how they connect with their Islam in New York, which is radically different than when I lived there, but you had people like that when I lived, there weren’t part of the religious revival after 911 

Some of the people that know him and work with him are the very liberal Muslim groups that are on the college campus and work with other groups for identity issues

He most probably believes in a two state solution with a Jewish state in a Palestinian state living in peace. I do not think someone likes him. This position is wipe Israel off the map and give all the land back to the original Arab inhabitants.

Brother and this is not directed at you personally people want too much

He has some good economic ideas. He has some good foreign policy ideas. His ideas are a lot better than the opposition.

I don’t think he’s doing pie dissimulation  Taqiyah he probably has heard the word. Could he give an accurate definition insight the references I highly doubt it. The landscape of Islam has changed so much that this guy’s represents a major portion of the thinking of Muslims under 40 there.

even at the height of Islamic power in the 80s 90s and up until the mid 2000s you had people like this and my wife grew up in an enclave where they basically lived under Islamic law. Her cousin is 2 miles down the road didn’t even know and this one branch of the family the Aunt married in American Muslim. They didn’t even know that you couldn’t show your ears cause you had earrings they would wear hijab with their ears sticking out to show their earrings and that’s 2 Miles at the height of the leaders power in the 80s 

So we just have to take what we can get sometimes I don’t know what this brother really knows. I don’t know what his intentions are. We can surmise his level of practice and knowledge but did you say he’s either a Zionist or in deep dissimulation is probably incorrect

He’s a religious person by a degree of practice and identity who is raised with a Marxist philosophy who who leans social is Democrat he makes Trump angry. He makes the children of Yazid angry he has better policies than the other two had. Let’s just take what we can get and pray it turns out well.

wallahu Alam 

also, a sidenote, the system may be rotten into the core, but no system is going to be good until the last luminary returns. Even the best systems are imperfect and have massive amounts of problems and if you haven’t seen revolution and people dying in the streets, it’s not a fun thing to experience so somebody trying to change the system from within is better for all the oppressed people, disabled, elderly women, mothers with children, vulnerable people who won’t be able to fight will be subject to the people who are fighting revolution without a plan is why the Middle East is in chaos all the time a large portion of why there are other factors because there’s never any organized plan for after you overthrow the dictator. Iran had a plan that’s why you’re Ron did better.

[AbdusSibtayn]

2 hours ago, Hamdi999 said:

Hes objectivley better, but what baffles me is why he thinks he can change the system from within when it's extreemly rotten to the core, it will change him for the worse if anything and he is being set up to fail from the start. 

 

On one hand he could have joined a third party, but that would have been a huge uphill battle, but he could have leveraged the rise of populism to his advantage to call out what both parties are.

On the other hand the democrat party gives him a pedistal as it's an established party, but it's extreemly corrupt, there is simply no changing it. If he goes too far, the many rich corporations/lobbies influencing the country will simply do something horrible to him or smear him to high heavens through media outlets to keep him in check. 

Even considering all of this, I'd rather the power remain in the hands of a centre-left, somewhat pro-Palestine and welfarist candidate than his rabid Zionist corporate bootlicker rivals. At least he is not going to arrest and surveil the pro-Resistance sections, Muslims will feel safer to express their religiosity and the poor will have something to fall back on. If his rivals won, those protesting the Gewish genocide and the bombing of Iran and Lebanon would have been shunted into jails and flagged for deportation. Hate crimes against Muslims, especially the Shia, would have skyrocketed, and corporate usury would have hollowed the city out. 

People need to realize that the overton window has shifted and they cannot have their cake and eat it too. Beggars can't be choosers. We don't own the system. We don't game it either. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

1 hour ago, Abu Hassanain said:

and if you haven’t seen revolution and people dying in the streets, it’s not a fun thing to experience

Salam shaykhina, 

I am not very old myself, I am somewhere between a young millennial and an old Gen-Zer, and yet, as someone who has lived through many movements and have been subjected to police brutality, detentions, been to jail and placed under surveillance for my political activism, a lot of my generation doesn't have any idea of the cost which standing up to corrupt and oppressive powers entails. They have been reared online and don't know what the state is capable of, once it wants to repress you. Not everyone can bear that cost. I have seen some of the best minds and hearts of my generation of Muslim scholar-activists being destroyed. Their lives are ruined. Even today they are rotting in jails. 

I am not saying that revolutionary action in itself is something bad or that we should be coward cynics. But we have to see if the society is ready for that 'revolution'. 

Edited November 7 by AbdusSibtayn

[Hamdi999]

3 hours ago, Abu Hassanain said:

Salam

You’re overthinking this in a number of the posts. His father taught Marxist philosophy at a college. His mother is a filmmaker. His mother and wife do not cover. He’s a Muslim by identity and most probably a degree of practice. I was just in New York if you ask the store owners and car people what time salon is the ones under 40 don’t know they’re probably thinking oh crap that white guy with a turban and a cloak just asked me an important question. Gotta pretend to know I know there’s like a prayer we eat after in that one month I’m not exaggerating. That’s how bad it’s gotten we went from enclaves to this. 
 

I don’t even know that his family was associated with Sijny in New York, supposedly they were but no one I know who goes there, remembers them ever coming there

Nobody remembers him or his family attending the Friday. Prayers anywhere there no one I’ve talked to remember seeing them attend war events, or fast breaking event

and I’m not saying this to smear or slander back bite the brother I’m just looking at the reality of the youth and how they connect with their Islam in New York, which is radically different than when I lived there, but you had people like that when I lived, there weren’t part of the religious revival after 911 

Some of the people that know him and work with him are the very liberal Muslim groups that are on the college campus and work with other groups for identity issues

 

3 hours ago, Abu Hassanain said:

He most probably believes in a two state solution with a Jewish state in a Palestinian state living in peace. I do not think someone likes him. This position is wipe Israel off the map and give all the land back to the original Arab inhabitants.

Brother and this is not directed at you personally people want too much

He has some good economic ideas. He has some good foreign policy ideas. His ideas are a lot better than the opposition.

I don’t think he’s doing pie dissimulation  Taqiyah he probably has heard the word. Could he give an accurate definition insight the references I highly doubt it. The landscape of Islam has changed so much that this guy’s represents a major portion of the thinking of Muslims under 40 there.

even at the height of Islamic power in the 80s 90s and up until the mid 2000s you had people like this and my wife grew up in an enclave where they basically lived under Islamic law. Her cousin is 2 miles down the road didn’t even know and this one branch of the family the Aunt married in American Muslim. They didn’t even know that you couldn’t show your ears cause you had earrings they would wear hijab with their ears sticking out to show their earrings and that’s 2 Miles at the height of the leaders power in the 80s 

Well Mamdani is known to be irreligious, so this is no secret, however I'm sure he knows some basic things from shia islam, he most probably knows things like taqqiyah, muta, etc... 

Even the most degenerate from the shia in my area, who smoke weed, join gangs, drink alchool, etc... know these things, I'm sure Mamdani is aware. And it doesnt take one to be a shia to hide ones true beleifs, from the videos of him i saw in the past day, its obvious hes trying to hide his true beleifs. A lot of leftists for example support certain groups, but they wont say it for the sake of not being arrested. So they don't necessarly need to know about tqqiyah to do it. 

 

3 hours ago, Abu Hassanain said:

So we just have to take what we can get sometimes I don’t know what this brother really knows. I don’t know what his intentions are. We can surmise his level of practice and knowledge but did you say he’s either a Zionist or in deep dissimulation is probably incorrect

I don't think it's incorrect hes doing tqqiyah though, the videos I saw of him yesterday seem to show he is doing it.  As for the mentality of "we take what we can" please be careful with that mentality, because its the exact mentality that made liberals vote for joe biden. Although in this case its more justified given mamdani is objectivley better than the opposition.

3 hours ago, Abu Hassanain said:

He’s a religious person by a degree of practice and identity who is raised with a Marxist philosophy who who leans social is Democrat he makes Trump angry. He makes the children of Yazid angry he has better policies than the other two had. Let’s just take what we can get and pray it turns out well.

wallahu Alam 

also, a sidenote, the system may be rotten into the core, but no system is going to be good until the last luminary returns. Even the best systems are imperfect and have massive amounts of problems and if you haven’t seen revolution and people dying in the streets, it’s not a fun thing to experience so somebody trying to change the system from within is better for all the oppressed people, disabled, elderly women, mothers with children, vulnerable people who won’t be able to fight will be subject to the people who are fighting revolution without a plan is why the Middle East is in chaos all the time a large portion of why there are other factors because there’s never any organized plan for after you overthrow the dictator. Iran had a plan that’s why you’re Ron did better.

@AbdusSibtayn @Abu Hassanain

As for revolution, I am aware violent revolutions without an objective are a disaster, especially if it leads to mindless civil war, lebanon is a perfect example of this. However with america, I doubt they can even do a revolution, they're a society of convenience, they will never do anything serious, unless their living conditions are beyond attrocious. America at this point is doomed, I don't think it will get better and I am aware mamdani can't change the system entirely, he is only the mayor of newyork, however I do think he actually beleives he can steer the democratic party into a better direction or even at minimum fix many problems in new york and in this I don't share his enthusiasim, hes 100% going to be targetted and sabotaged.  

 

But in the end I can't complain, he is doing something, instead of doing nothing. 

Edited November 7 by Hamdi999

[Essentials123]

Zohran's reflection om Imam Hussein RA

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DL5XUhuudzN/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

[AbdusSibtayn]

8 minutes ago, Azadeh307 said:

Imam Hussein RA

Don't want to be that guy but.... 

Imam Husayn عليه السلام /Alayhis Salam. 

جاء في ( الصواعق المحرقة ص 87 ) لابن حجر: أنّ رسول الله صلّى الله عليه وآله قال: لا تُصلُّوا عَلَيّ الصلاةَ البَتراء، قالوا: وما الصلاةُ البَتراء ؟! قال: تقولون: اللّهمّ صلِّ على محمّدٍ، وتُمسِكون، بل قولوا: اللّهمّ صلِّ على محمّدٍ وعلى آلِ

(My rough translation)

'... It has been recorded in al-Sawa'iq al-Muhriqah of Ibn Hajar that the Prophet (S) said : don't send upon me a prayer/blessing whose tail has been cut off (ie a truncated/distorted/incomplete prayer/blessing). They (the companions) said: And what is the prayer/blessing whose tail is cut off? He said: They say 'O God bless Muhammad', and they cling (to this habit). Rather, say: O God send your blessings upon Muhammad and upon his progeny (Aal)... '

Putting 'RA' beside the names of the infallibles (عليهم السلام أجمعين ) is from the practice of the Mukhalifeen; it is disrespectful and we don't do this. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

1 hour ago, Hamdi999 said:

But in the end I can't complain, he is doing something, instead of doing nothing. 

This is the sum of the entire discussion. His election is still an improvement upon what could have happened had he lost. 

More anti-imperialist protestors in jail or deported, tougher life for the working class and ethno-religious minorities, corrupt, rabid Zionists and sex-pests and serial harassers like Cuomo in power. Talking about hypothetical what-ifs doesn't mean anything when this is the only possible alternative to Mamdani. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/22-million-failed-zohran-mamdani-won-nyc-mayoral-race-despite-billionaire-opposition-9593257

If he didn't pose any threat to them, they wouldn't be haemorrhaging money and marshalling connections like this to stop him. ^

Healthy skepticism is good. Jaundiced nitpicking is not. I have my own doubts, reservations and criticisms too. At least give the fellow a chance. 

Edited November 7 by AbdusSibtayn

[Eddie Mecca]

On 11/6/2025 at 5:55 PM, Hamdi999 said:

Unless again hes doing taqqiyah and is secretly trying to change the system from within

Really? He's controlled opposition and his candidacy for mayor is a psychological operation... he's the male Shi'i version of Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib and Linda Sarsour... he denounced Hamas and Operation Al-Aqsa Flood... the system purposely placed him in power in order to squash your dreams and diminish your hopes... he's an eloquent debater and charismatic orator... he carries himself well... you'll hear the occasional radical rhetoric... but generally, his actions will be calculated and pragmatic... he operates within the Zionist framework... Mamdani takes his marching orders from billionaires Alexander Soros and George Soros... the controversy surrounds aspects of Mamdani's ethnicity and his religious affinity... also, the supposed threat he represents to the old democratic vanguard (e.g. Nancy Pelosi, Mario Cuomo etc.)... the descendants of Irish, Italian and Jewish old timers (i.e. grandchildren and great grandchildren of Ellis Island, turn of the last century immigrants) not wanting to pass down the torch to the new (i.e. next) generation of millennial progressives and pseudo-socialists and Gen Z far-leftists... the later being represented by the children of more recently arrived newcomers from the Indian subcontinent, West Asia, SE Asia, NE Africa etc.... he will fail Muslim Americans like Barack Obama failed African Americans 

[AbdusSibtayn]

2 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

Really? He's controlled opposition and his candidacy for mayor is a psychological operation... he's the male Shi'i version of Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib and Linda Sarsour... he denounced Hamas and Operation Al-Aqsa Flood... the system purposely placed him in power in order to squash your dreams and diminish your hopes... he's an eloquent debater and charismatic orator... he carries himself well... you'll hear the occasional radical rhetoric... but generally, his actions will be calculated and pragmatic... he operates within the Zionist framework... Mamdani takes his marching orders from billionaires Alexander Soros and George Soros... the controversy surrounds aspects of Mamdani's ethnicity and his religious affinity... also, the supposed threat he represents to the old democratic vanguard (e.g. Nancy Pelosi, Mario Cuomo etc.)... the descendants of Irish, Italian and Jewish old timers (i.e. grandchildren and great grandchildren of Ellis Island, turn of the last century immigrants) not wanting to pass down the torch to the new (i.e. next) generation of millennial progressives and pseudo-socialists and Gen Z far-leftists... the later being represented by the children of more recently arrived newcomers from the Indian subcontinent, West Asia, SE Asia, NE Africa etc.... he will fail Muslim Americans like Barack Obama failed African Americans 

Which is why it is best to keep our own expectations tempered with the harsh reality and to not get our hopes too high. 

If we set the bar at not persecuting the anti-Zionist, anti-War Hawks protestors, not pandering to the anti-Muslim, anti-Iran and anti-Shia neoconservative shills and the Zio-Salafis, keeping rack-renting landlords, profiteers and hoarders in check and preventing hate crimes against Muslims, affordable housing, transportation and healthcare, let's see how he fares. 

Edited November 8 by AbdusSibtayn

[Panzerwaffe]

https://amp.marca.com/en/lifestyle/us-news/2025/11/06/690c88e1e2704e34788b45c2.html

[Essentials123]

21 hours ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

22 hours ago, Azadeh307 said:

 

Don't want to be that guy but.... 

thank you for letting me know. I am thankful for the opportunity to self-correct. 

[Muhammed Ali]

On 11/7/2025 at 4:53 AM, Azadeh307 said:

Its a good point, we should do our best to support Muslims who succeed in some way rather than being very critical. Many Muslims such as Zohran have social needs of external support /belonging so we can try to meet them a bit better so they don’t have to turn to others for a sense of belonging. Otherwise it may be a self fulfilling prophecy to some degree why he isn’t there enough for Muslims etc. 

Not just because he is Muslim but because of the statements he has made and because of his past activities. A Muslim who supports the oppressors should not be supported at all. I would prefer a good non-Muslim like Corbyn to someone like Zia Yusuf.

[Muhammed Ali]

8 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

he denounced Hamas and Operation Al-Aqsa Flood... 

Do you realise how unpopular the Resistance is among the masses? He would never win if he supported them. Should he sabotage any chance he has of wining and hand the election to Bibi's lawyer Cuomo?

What would you do Eddie Mecca in his situation? Tell the people that you rightly love the honourable Sayyid Hassan and lose or do taqiyyah and win the election? I personally wouldn't seek public office for the fear of corrupting my soul but I would vote for an anti-genocider over a supporter of genocide.

Here is what Europeans think about al-Aqsa flood. And notice how more people blame Iran for its retaliation than blaming Israel for starting hostilities. It's sheer ignorance with some bigotry. This is what we have to work with.

https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/Eurotrack_MiddleEast_Oct24.pdf

 

Brother we have to think long term. Maybe in a few decades people will become more informed but we need to travel in that direction instead of making no progress today.

Edited November 8 by Muhammed Ali

[Muhammed Ali]

On 11/7/2025 at 2:42 PM, Abu Hassanain said:

He most probably believes in a two state solution with a Jewish state in a Palestinian state living in peace. I do not think someone likes him. This position is wipe Israel off the map and give all the land back to the original Arab inhabitants.

 

Perhaps we can look at his father's views to see what the son may have been taught:

Quote

The Palestinian challenge is to persuade the Jewish population and the world, Just as in South africa, the longtime security of a Jewish homeland in historic Palestine requires the dismantling of the Jewish state. The lesson for Palestine and Israel, is that historic Palestine can be a homeland for Jews but not for Jews only. Jews can have a homeland in historic Palestine. but not a state.

https://mondoweiss.net/2014/12/mamdanis-challenge-dismantling/