Israel Strikes Iran

[Azadeh307]

My stomach dropped reading the latest news, as I imagine Iran may retaliate, which will pull US into the conflict. May Allah protect the innocent people from this conflict.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/06/12/world/israel-iran-us-nuclear

Edited June 13 by Azadeh307

[Panzerwaffe]

Insane timing , is Netanyahu really trying his best to start ww3 ?

 

[Azadeh307]

14 minutes ago, Panzerwaffe said:

Insane timing , is Netanyahu really trying his best to start ww3 ?

I am also thinking the timing is insane. There is so much unrest in USA right now, even a California Senator was arrested today for his comments at the press conference given by the secretary of Homeland Security on immigration issues. I hope the SC members who live in Iran are doing ok given the circumstance. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

Enough with the 'strategic patience' nonsense!!! 

Enough with the 'deterrence building' cope!!! 

How worse can it really get?? What is the wait even for? 

'Patience', when misapplied, turns into cowardice. 

Given that strategic assets and military personnel are being blown to smithereens and mincemeat, 'deterrence' isn't clearly working. 

It can't get any worse. Time to stop turning the other cheek in the name of 'patience'. 

Exterminate these vermin NOW!! ACT NOW!! 

FLATTEN TEL AVIV! 

[Abu Nur]

46 minutes ago, Panzerwaffe said:

Insane timing , is Netanyahu really trying his best to start ww3 ?

 

There is no sanity left in humanity after killing over 30k children while the whole world was watching. May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) bring the justified punishment over all these people who watched and accepted the killings. How much I dislike it, but there is reason why before Imam Mehdi (عليه السلام) appear, there will be wars and diseases and many death is because no one cared about the innocent, no one cared about the injustice done to Muslims. 

[Eddie Mecca]

1 minute ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

Enough with the 'strategic patience' nonsense!!! 

Enough with the 'deterrence building' cope!!! 

How worse can it really get?? What is the wait even for? 

'Patience', when misapplied, turns into cowardice. 

Given that strategic assets and military personnel are being blown to smithereens and mincemeat, 'deterrence' isn't clearly working. 

It can't get any worse. Time to stop turning the other cheek in the name of 'patience'. 

Exterminate these vermin NOW!! ACT NOW!! 

FLATTEN TEL AVIV

I was saying this on October 8th, 2023... They should have leveled Israel to the ground then... Tehran plus the Resistance Axis... One hand united all together... If not, then they take turns dying separately one by one

[Abu Nur]

4 minutes ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

Enough with the 'strategic patience' nonsense!!! 

Enough with the 'deterrence building' cope!!! 

How worse can it really get?? What is the wait even for? 

'Patience', when misapplied, turns into cowardice. 

Given that strategic assets and military personnel are being blown to smithereens and mincemeat, 'deterrence' isn't clearly working. 

It can't get any worse. Time to stop turning the other cheek in the name of 'patience'. 

Exterminate these vermin NOW!! ACT NOW!! 

FLATTEN TEL AVIV! 

Highly possible that this is going to happen. 

[Abu Nur]

Armed Forces Commander Mohammad Bagheri martyred. 

[Abu Nur]

They are still bombing. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

26 minutes ago, Eddie Mecca said:

I was saying this on October 8th, 2023... They should have leveled Israel to the ground then... Tehran plus the Resistance Axis... One hand united all together... If not, then they take turns dying separately one by one

They've lost the shock advantage that they gained after True Promise, unfortunately, in the name of the 'strategic patience' baloney. 

What has followed is an uninterrupted wave of assassinations and attacks. The ziomucks and their allies have only been emboldened. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

38 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

Highly possible that this is going to happen. 

If they have been preparing for this eventuality and haven't woken up dazed in their beds to the bombings, and if Pezheshkian is not completely a geopolitical c**k, they have to do something immediately, or risk being pushed to the wall permanently. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

18 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

Armed Forces Commander Mohammad Bagheri martyred. 

Since Sayyid Hasan (rh)'s assassination, the pattern shows that their intelligence has been getting more and more accurate. 

This time they have even targeted the Beyte Rahbari. 

I still think there are multiple moles within the system. 

[Abu Nur]

1 minute ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

Since Sayyid Hasan (rh)'s assassination, the pattern shows that their intelligence has been getting more and more accurate. 

This time they have even targeted the Beyte Rahbari. 

I still think there are multiple moles within the system. 

Those who sided with zionist to take down Islamic authority in Iran, may Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) curse them and rotten them in Hell. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

29 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

They are still bombing. 

They're not going to stop anytime soon and let the shock advantage go. 

They don't want to give Iran the time to think, assess and respond accordingly. 

[coldcow]

53 minutes ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

'Patience', when misapplied, turns into cowardice. 

Given that strategic assets and military personnel are being blown to smithereens and mincemeat, 'deterrence' isn't clearly working. 

Yeah, they've left themselves vulnerable to death by a thousand cuts.  Slowly eating away at their military, their leaders, and now their missile sites.

50 minutes ago, Eddie Mecca said:

They should have leveled Israel to the ground then... Tehran plus the Resistance Axis... One hand united all together... If not, then they take turns dying separately one by one

Don't agree with attacking civilians.  But yes, Israel has effectively divided and conquered.  First Gaza. Then Lebanon and Syria.  Will see if Yemen, Hezbhollah, and Iraqi militias (likely with just small drones) join with Iran in retaliating.  

10 minutes ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

they have to do something immediately, or risk being pushed to the wall permanently. 

The Iranian missiles are slow to get ready.  They take hours to move and fuel.  Makes them slow to respond, and vulnerable targets while getting ready.  And supposedly they attacked the entrances to missile sites underground, so might be hard to move significant numbers out at a time if many are stuck. 

 

So the question is, do you send one or two at a time, that can easily be intercepted.  Or try and amass many to send, knowing they're vulnerable and you're at high risk of continued attacks.

[coldcow]

Also will be interesting to see if Iranian people unite against the attack, if they'll support an overthrow of the government, of if they'll just try to go about their lives like normal.

[AbdusSibtayn]

17 minutes ago, coldcow said:

Yeah, they've left themselves vulnerable to death by a thousand cuts.  Slowly eating away at their military, their leaders, and now their missile sites.

Sheer incompetence and negligence on display, and colossal intelligence failures, one after another. 

Israelis are still miles ahead in terms of intelligence gathering and planning. When they have to trap a mouse, they prepare enough to capture an elephant. 

Iranians, on the other hand, when they see a missile approach, they murmur, 'it's a shooting star', turn around and go back to sleep, and the next moment  entire cities and villages are on fire. 

24 minutes ago, coldcow said:

The Iranian missiles are slow to get ready.  They take hours to move and fuel.  Makes them slow to respond, and vulnerable targets while getting ready.  And supposedly they attacked the entrances to missile sites underground, so might be hard to move significant numbers out at a time if many are stuck. 

 

So the question is, do you send one or two at a time, that can easily be intercepted.  Or try and amass many to send, knowing they're vulnerable and you're at high risk of continued attacks.

They could have averted this problem had they been alert and on their toes, prepared for this to happen. Even an ignoramus like me saw this coming months ago, since the negotiations began with the US. A college freshman would have known that the zios would do something rash to disrupt the talks. 

But they were either sleeping or living under a rock all these months. I simply can't wrap my head around this sheer incompetence and complacency- after all your allies are being liquidated one by one and your home ground being hit repeatedly, what have you actually done to prevent a repeat of the same? What is the wait actually for, to be bled to death and all geopolitical heft to melt away? 

Every Zionist, nasibi and neocon imperialist hawk must be laughing himself to death today. 

[Eddie Mecca]

46 minutes ago, coldcow said:

Don't agree with attacking civilians.

No civilians exist in Israel... They're a genocidal nation

46 minutes ago, coldcow said:

Will see if Yemen

Hamas and the Houthis have been attacking nonstop... Hezbollah are still regrouping I believe 

Edited June 13 by Eddie Mecca

[AbdusSibtayn]

Saudis condemn the attack. 

MBS is refusing to let go of his own deals with Iran and endanger the ARAMCO sites it seems. 

[Eddie Mecca]

48 minutes ago, coldcow said:

will be interesting to see if Iranian people unite against the attack

Attacks like these always rally the Iranian citizens around the government 

[AbdusSibtayn]

Today is Sayyida Zaynab (sa)'s shahadah anniversary (per some narrations).... Looks like the zios intentionally chose the date to hammer home a point. 

Edited June 13 by AbdusSibtayn

[AbdusSibtayn]

1 minute ago, Eddie Mecca said:

Attacks like these always rally the Iranian citizens around the government 

Still got to watch out for the moles and the collaborators within. 

By the looks of the accuracy, there's a good number of traitors involved. 

[Eddie Mecca]

15 minutes ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

Sheer incompetence and negligence on display, and colossal intelligence failures, one after another. 

Israelis are still miles ahead in terms of intelligence gathering and planning. When they have to trap a mouse, they prepare enough to capture an elephant. 

Iranians, on the other hand, when they see a missile approach, they murmur, 'it's a shooting star', turn around and go back to sleep, and the next moment  entire cities and villages are on fire. 

A bit harsh but I feel your frustration and partly agree... The 23 dimensional chess playing crap has to stop at some point... 

[AbdusSibtayn]

Just now, Eddie Mecca said:

A bit harsh but I feel your frustration and partly agree... The 23 dimensional chess playing crap has to stop at some point... 

They need to act quick. The 'planning' part should have been done long ago, but Pezheshkian and Araghchi let themselves be lulled by Trump's false hopes... Now we have from the horse's mouth itself that he knew what Netanyahu was going to do all along. 

A clear response is needed. There's a lot of sunken reputation to salvage. 

[Eddie Mecca]

If Iran and the Resistance Axis are destroyed... They fought bravely and gallantly and honorably for 45 years and have nothing to feel ashamed of... They fought the good fight... They will be replaced by a wiser and more fierce future resistance... We should feel ashamed for failing them

Edited June 13 by Eddie Mecca

[hamz786]

57 minutes ago, coldcow said:

Also will be interesting to see if Iranian people unite against the attack, if they'll support an overthrow of the government, of if they'll just try to go about their lives like normal.

I fear this could be a possibility. Remember Netanyahus message to the Iranian population last year. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

" Dr. Leila Nicolas writes on X:

 

Israel has launched unprecedented strikes against Iran.

Over time, and through several key junctures, Iran has gradually lost its deterrence posture. Two pivotal moments mark this decline:

 

1. When Ismail Haniyeh was targeted on Iranian soil and Tehran chose to maintain "strategic restraint". At the time, Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah delivered a speech stressing the necessity of a response, framing the matter as one tied to Iranian national dignity.

 

2. The second, and most decisive moment, came with the assassination of Sayyed Nasrallah himself, an event that went unanswered with a crushing retaliation, neither against Israel nor within the region.

 

In the aftermath, deterrence collapsed completely, and Netanyahu emerged emboldened, going so far as to publicly threaten the Supreme Leader of Iran.

 

To restore deterrence and protect itself, Iran now faces two options:

 

1. Launch a conventional military response that matches the scale and impact of Israel’s aggression, reasserting strength through force.

 

2. Develop a nuclear weapon, establishing an alternative form of deterrence to compensate for the collapse of its long-invested "forward defense" doctrine.

 

Without either path, the next objective on the table will be nothing short of regime change [in Iran].

https://t.me/Marwa_OsmanLB/4321 "

I agree with every word said here. 

[Eddie Mecca]

3 minutes ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

I agree with every word said here. 

Sounds about right

[AbdusSibtayn]

Sorely missing.... Had these two lions been alive today, things would have been different. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

Massive Iranian drone barrage against Israel reported. 

Might be a strategy to divert and occupy Israeli air defense systems. 

Inshallah something big is on the way. 

اللھم انصرنا علیٰ قوم الکافرین 

[AbdusSibtayn]

Zio air defenses intercepting the drones over Saudi and Syria. 

[coldcow]

1 hour ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

Sheer incompetence and negligence on display, and colossal intelligence failures, one after another. 

Israelis are still miles ahead in terms of intelligence gathering and planning. When they have to trap a mouse, they prepare enough to capture an elephant. 

Iranians, on the other hand, when they see a missile approach, they murmur, 'it's a shooting star', turn around and go back to sleep, and the next moment  entire cities and villages are on fire. 

Indeed.  The problem is that Israelis plan, and plan, and plan.  And they seek revenge months, years, even decades later.  Most of our people tend to get a lucky punch in here and there, and then get so busy celebrating that they pay no attention to  the retaliation that comes.  Look especially at the Arab armies prior to the '67 war, and even '73 war.  Egypt got lucky in '73.  

1 hour ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

But they were either sleeping or living under a rock all these months.

Yes, especially the past few days.  Looking at the news it was clear something was coming - families of Americans were advised to leave the area, almost every news organization was broadcasting that Israel was planning an attack.  

It's also entirely possible that Israeli Air Force is just that technologically ahead of Iranian air defenses that despite their preparations, the IDF still was able to penetrate.  Unfortunately now I think Iran has no significant air defense assets at all, and so Israel may be able to attack at will.  

1 hour ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

Saudis condemn the attack. 

MBS is refusing to let go of his own deals with Iran and endanger the ARAMCO sites it

Can't trust MBS.  It's entirely possible he, and all the other Arabs, encouraged this attack in secret.  

 

1 hour ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

To restore deterrence and protect itself, Iran now faces two options:

 

1. Launch a conventional military response that matches the scale and impact of Israel’s aggression, reasserting strength through force.

 

2. Develop a nuclear weapon, establishing an alternative form of deterrence to compensate for the collapse of its long-invested "forward defense" doctrine.

I agree.  However the genius move by Israel is that both options will likely draw the US into a conflict.  

 

39 minutes ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

Zio air defenses intercepting the drones over Saudi and Syria. 

The drones are intercepted by small missiles that aren't used to shoot down the big ones like the ballistic missiles.  It is certainly something that might slow a continued Israeli attack - which will likely occur again in the night.  But it's not much.  If Israel hit the tunnels to the entrances to the missile storage bunkers, then it will be a long time before Iran can mount a response.  

 

Also, I'm fairly certain the explosion at the port a few weeks ago was probably Israeli sabotage as rumor is that it was carrying rocket fuel from China.  Could be a preemptive way to minimize Iran's missile retaliation.  

[coldcow]

1 hour ago, hamz786 said:

I fear this could be a possibility. Remember Netanyahus message to the Iranian population last year. 

Yeah.  I did hear on Al Jazeera that Iranians are angry that civilians (I think the families of the nuclear scientists) were killed.  Might help keep them from turning on the government as they respond. 

[PureExistence1]

5 hours ago, Panzerwaffe said:

Insane timing , is Netanyahu really trying his best to start ww3 ?

 

Its either this or go to jail for corruption. As long as he remains in his position, hes immune to prosecution.

Edited June 13 by PureExistence1

[Diaz]

2 hours ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

Today is Sayyida Zaynab (sa)'s shahadah anniversary (per some narrations).... Looks like the zios intentionally chose the date to hammer home a point. 

They literally launched an attack on Lebanon during Eid Al adha, I was 100% sure israhell will attack on or before Eid ghadeer.