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Posted

Given that the Zios have managed to sneak in drones so deep within Iran, one wonders what role they played in operation Spider's Web in Russia recently. 

I am pretty sure they are involved. 

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Posted
6 hours ago, Panzerwaffe said:

This war is a very sad development, the only winners are wahabi Sunni 

i how long criticized the Iranian govt on their foreign policy esp wrt Israel . Not because the Israel is the “ good guy” but because it’s the enemy of their existential

enemies I.e Sunni Arabs 

Without israel, takfiri terrorists would simply not be in power in many levant countries. Israel and sectarian nasibis are both a threat existentially to the region, take it from me as a lebanese guy, israelis made the tyrant saddam hussein look like an angel, they're a bunch of bronze age mentality child killing lunatics. The only diffirence is nasibis hate us for our religion, israelis hate us for our religion and ethnicity. 

 

If israel is humbled or better, removed from the middle east, it will help a lot towards a more peaceful middle. At this point israels existence should be tolerated as much as the japanese in ww2 or germans in ww2, it should have been done in 1948, but this is what we arabs get for having incompetent generals 80 years ago. Hopefully the remaining arabs still fighting israel and iran get the best of luck against israel and nato. 

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8 hours ago, Panzerwaffe said:

This war is a very sad development, the only winners are wahabi Sunni 

i how long criticized the Iranian govt on their foreign policy esp wrt Israel . Not because the Israel is the “ good guy” but because it’s the enemy of their existential

enemies I.e Sunni Arabs 

Correct me if I'm wrong. But are you suggesting Iran and Israel should have an 'enemy of my enemy is my friend' type relation?

Guest Guest
Posted

In reality in this war neither side wins. Iran is already suffering from sanctions. If this war gets drag on for much longer. Iran economy will be crippled even more. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, ServantOfMahdi said:

Eid al-Ghadeer Fireworks 

Wow.  Is that real?  It doesn't look like Israel.  Or is it video from Jordan looking into Israel.  Hopefully those missiles hit good targets.

57 minutes ago, Guest Guest said:

In reality in this war neither side wins. Iran is already suffering from sanctions. If this war gets drag on for much longer. Iran economy will be crippled even more. 

I think the Israeli economy gets hurt if it continues for a long time as well.  If Iran continues their ability to launch missiles and is able to force Israelis into the shelters ever day, I can't imagine that's good for their economy.  

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Posted

For now Russia is happy because oil is up, they make profits.

If regime change becomes a possibility in Iran, then expect indirect Russian intervention. 

China may do so too through Pakistan. We may see Chinese weapons in Pakistani storages gradually appear in Iran, and they will gradually escelate as US escelates. 

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Posted

https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1933832602722394470

I also forgot about the pig trump. 

This guy backstabbed iran in 2018 when iran had fully complied with the jcpoa, by destroying the deal.

Iran still did indirect negotiations with that peice of filth to show good will and he decides to pull this disgusting stunt and even lies about not being involved in the attacks. Attacks where israel almost caused a second chernobyl by hitting iranian nuclear reactors.

And he still has the nerve to ask iran to negotiate? At this point iran should withdraw from the NPT and never negotiate with america at all. It's incredible how much lack of awarness and disgusting arrogance that orange satan with yellow hair has. 

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4 minutes ago, RiseOrDie said:

For now Russia is happy because oil is up, they make profits.

If regime change becomes a possibility in Iran, then expect indirect Russian intervention. 

China may do so too through Pakistan. We may see Chinese weapons in Pakistani storages gradually appear in Iran, and they will gradually escelate as US escelates. 

I doubt it will be like another ussr situation where both the ussr and america supported saddam against iran. Russia wants iran to be a counterweight to america, the fact that russia who usually doesnt care about the middle east, has become more hostile in its condemnation of israel shows the opposite if im being honest. 

 

And china is also becoming more hostile to israel in a similar manner, hopefully china fully sanctions israel, that way the israeli economy collapses and depends entirely on america. 

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So far most of the Iranian missiles have been downed by Israel or have failed to impact high-value targets. (There is little independent evidence to indicate otherwise.) Meanwhile, Israel has clearly established aerial dominance over the past year, facilitating a large-scale campaign over Iran. While both sides suffer economically, Israel is in a much stronger position, owing to regional integration and anti-Iran sanctions. Given U.S. support, escalation clearly seems to favour Israel. The main factor, in my view, that might favour Iran is the absence of land-based Anglo-Israeli proxies in neighbouring states; I would think that regime change is impossible without an actual invasion. Iranian weakness notwithstanding, I do not think that the Anglo-Zionists have formulated an appropriate strategy to achieve their goals; airstrikes and sabotage alone will not oust the government.

A successful outcome for the imperialists, in my view, would require:

  • Direct intervention by Arab and other NATO allies (i.e., Turkey, Azerbaijan, and Pakistan), including an incursion by conventional as well as unconventional forces;
  • A total shutdown of Iranian trade with other states, i.e., Russia and China, which would complicate the Trump administration’s ‘deals’ on Ukraine and tariffs;
  • Direct involvement by key EU allies such as the U.K., France, and Germany, including overt, large-scale participation in military actions by the Zionist–Sunni bloc;
  • All-out support for separatist, nationalist, and Wahhabi–Salafi proxies (i.e., a revival of ISIS, PJAK, et al.), relying on bases in Iraqi Kurdistan and other peripheral regions
  • A blockade of Iranian oil supplies, i.e., an end to all commerce in the Strait of Hormuz;
  • A massive, strategic air campaign that would destroy all critical infrastructure in Iran, i.e., hydroelectric, communications, military, transport, and so on, as well as culturally significant sites (demoralisation)

In short, over the long run nothing less than a regional ‘world war’ would facilitate Anglo-Zionist goals in Iran. However, unlike some other people, I do not believe that there is significant Western domestic opposition to a war on Iran. Aside from a few fringe groups, most of the Western—and certainly the American—public buys into the same narratives on the Iran–Israel situation as on Ukraine, Taiwan, and so on. Even if they did not, they are still deeply invested in unipolar Western (Anglo-American) hegemony. The question, therefore, is not whether the U.S. lacks the means or support to carry out its aims in Iran—or anywhere else—but whether it is determined to do so competently. Ditto for its European and Arab clients. (The fact that Trump successfully deceived the Iranian side does not augur well for his ‘negotiations’ with Putin on Ukraine.)

5 minutes ago, RiseOrDie said:

For now Russia is happy because oil is up, they make profits.

If regime change becomes a possibility in Iran, then expect indirect Russian intervention. 

China may do so too through Pakistan. We may see Chinese weapons in Pakistani storages gradually appear in Iran, and they will gradually escalate as US escalates. 

Neither Russia nor China has shown the slightest interest in actually helping Iran, aside from rhetorically covering up prior arrangements with NATO to facilitate airstrikes on Iran’s ballistic-missile facilities (thereby pleasing Israel). Recall that Russia for many years supported UN sanctions on Iran‘s missile programme and also delayed its transfer of the now-defunct S-300s to Iran for a long time—in large part due to Israeli influence on the Russian government. I think you underestimate the degree to which Russo-Sino elites have been economically invested in the West and have not yet been thoroughly disillusioned.

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@Northwest

Exactly, I wouldn't count on them doing it as an 'ally', and Iran has no allies; but you can count on them protecting their interests and/or gaining leverage against the US. 

Based on this alone, I expect Russia/China to begin gradually arming Iran if this conflict escelates and drags on. And as I mentioned, they will do it indirectly through other states in central Asia and Pakistan and Armenia.

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16 minutes ago, Hamdi said:

I doubt it will be like another ussr situation where both the ussr and america supported saddam against iran. Russia wants iran to be a counterweight to america, the fact that russia who usually doesnt care about the middle east, has become more hostile in its condemnation of israel shows the opposite if im being honest. 

 

And china is also becoming more hostile to israel in a similar manner, hopefully china fully sanctions israel, that way the israeli economy collapses and depends entirely on america. 

Remember, both China and Russia recognize Israel. In the bigger scheme of things, both China and Russia are Dajjal aligned states that is, if given a choice between a caliphate or a one world secular government, china and russia will choose the latter.

But in the meantime, and based on current geopolitics. Iran can be a great place for China and Russia to apply pressure on the US, test and market weapon systems, make money, gain influence, and in the end probably erstablish a base in the region. I don't think they care if Iran is divided or fractured into smaller states.

So Iran is essentially fighting for its sovereignty and unity. Nobody is to be trusted.

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Posted

Iran's response was very lackluster. Only a few missiles were sent and most were shot down, and those that hit didn't do much damage. This is very disappointing.

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35 minutes ago, RiseOrDie said:

Remember, both China and Russia recognize Israel. In the bigger scheme of things, both China and Russia are Dajjal aligned states that is, if given a choice between a caliphate or a one world secular government, china and russia will choose the latter.

But in the meantime, and based on current geopolitics. Iran can be a great place for China and Russia to apply pressure on the US, test and market weapon systems, make money, gain influence, and in the end probably erstablish a base in the region. I don't think they care if Iran is divided or fractured into smaller states.

So Iran is essentially fighting for its sovereignty and unity. Nobody is to be trusted.

Russia although being secular, still puts importance in christian orthodoxy and tradition, china is also distancing itself from the communism of Mao zedong and have been slowly and surely pivoting more and more towards a more traditional society (even though most chinese people are aethiests with folk lore superstiton). In other words they might not as easily pivot towards the system of dajjal as they oppose full on liberalism. Don't forget, non muslims have sided with caliphates before. 

And yes they have relations with israel, which is something I hate a lot, but the relation has been deteriorating more and more since oct 7 and israel has been increasingly supporting ukraine, especially after what israel pulled off in iran that is similar to what ukraine did.

Iran being fractured will also go against their intrests, like the new silk road or russia having a pipelines through iran, especially after syria collapsed and now has pipelines that go to turkey.

There are other factors too, iran being unstable near their borders is just not a good thing, especially when it might cause groups hostile to the iranian govt to establish their own mini states and launch attacks on russia and china, you saw what happened in syria with the east turkmenistan terrorist organisation. 

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Posted (edited)
28 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

It is very disappointed to see how much low Iman people have when it is exposed to the test of hardship.

Social media is making people impatient, same thing happened in september 27 in lebanon when israel launched a shock n awe and people lost faith instantly. 

 

It also didn't help that israel has had PR victories for over 6 months now one after the other since november 27. Its the same thing that happened in lebanon before 2006, when israel invaded in 2006, every lebanese person was thinking "oh its over, israel will crush us and take the country again for another 20 years" and then israel lost. 

Edited by Abu Nur
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Posted
43 minutes ago, Shihab_V said:

Only a few missiles were sent and most were shot down, and those that hit didn't do much damage.

 

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Posted
4 hours ago, Abu_Zahra said:

If anyone was wondering why the Imam hasnt reappeared, have a quick read through this thread 

 

2 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

It is very disappointed to see how much low Iman people have when it is exposed to the test of hardship.

I did not get it, can you explain it brothers ?

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Shihab_V said:

Iran's response was very lackluster. Only a few missiles were sent and most were shot down, and those that hit didn't do much damage. This is very disappointing.

To add to this: why hasn’t Iran shown footage of the Israeli aircraft it claims to have shot down?

Edited by Northwest
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Posted

Zio military has a branch that censors videos and images taken by people living there. Regime captured many palestinians in the last 24 hours because they shared their happiness on social media. Those who became happy in regime prisons because of Iran response got beat up and moved to solitary cells. There are a lot of things happening there.

 

Some F35 planes got shot down in last 24 hours. Iran defense systems had an issue on the first few hours of regime strikes. I think that's why regime could kill many top military figures of Iran, but Iran could set it up on the first day of the war. Iran launched more than 500 ballistic missiles and some carrying 2,500 lb warhead. They made massive destructions in occupied land, but there's a huge censorship.

 

Anyway, I'm not afraid of regime attacks even US involvement. I'm concerned that some Iran government officials not doing what they supposed to do. That's the ONLY concern I have.

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Posted (edited)

The attack was broadcasted live for quite sometime by several news networks, I was expecting much more than what I saw. For a scenario like this Iran should launch over 3000 missiles which should have a hit rate of over 90% and targeting all critical and military infrastructure. In other words cripple the country.

Edit: shooting two or three F35 is irrelevant, expectations are much higher. Talk is cheap, Iran should back their talk with serious action.

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Guest London1
Posted

Israel has clear path to run attacks now with US help.    How Iran deals with this is 2 ways,   they can agree to US demands thus ending the strikes or continue status quo.

If they continue with status quo iranian infrastructure will be hit including oil sites thus inviting regime chsnge which is what israel wants.

I cannot belive iran fell for the ruse,  on Wed 11 June,   it was all over Internet that a strike is imminent and iranain leadership did not take steps to at least protect themselves. 

  • Basic Members
Posted

Did they strike Iran on their so-called Shabat days Fridays afternoon and Saturday? Didn't they claim that in their religion they don't do any work on these days?

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Posted
19 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

It is very disappointed to see how much low Iman people have when it is exposed to the test of hardship.

When the strikes took place, this guy I knew was arguing with 3 people about how we're so done. We were like "Allah is with us," "Khorasani must rise," "Have hope and optimism." But he adamantly resigned to the might and power of Israel. People have more faith in our enemies than us.

Like how in the early Islamic wars the soldiers would look at the kuffar and lose heart. And recall the war that Prophet David (عليه السلام) slew Goliath in; the MAJORITY of soldiers were like "We're finished. It's over." And of course when they fled at Uhud, and so much more it's all in the Quran.

If you don't trust our leaders, that's a bad sign about how you will be when Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام) appears. He needs people who have hearts of iron. Who believe in the capabilities of Allah's servants more than Satan's.

Israel will soon be referred to in the past tense.

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