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BBC Documentary: The Settlers - watch while you can

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Louis Theroux simply lets them speak their minds

There was previously a Youtube link here, but the film was taken off Youtube for copyright reasons. But someone has put it on Twitter, watch it while you can!

 

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video is no longer available? 

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15 hours ago, Diaz said:

video is no longer available?

Oh dear it did seem as if we had gotten lucky with it being available on Youtube. People have been sharing clips on social media. I'll find links.

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9 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

Louis Theroux simply lets them speak their minds

 

 

Not to defend them , but they think this land is theirs by believing their books , and when you believe you have greenlight from God , you will not feel guilty , let me ask you , Muslims believe they have a holy right to take Jizya for instance from the Christians and Jews , how is this any different principally ?! Believing in holy rights is very dangerous . 

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2 hours ago, Guest Kingpin said:

Muslims believe they have a holy right to take Jizya for instance from the Christians and Jews

well ...

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The jizya was a mechanism of qualified inclusion, because the dhimmī did not actively participate or contribute to the universalist, expansionist mission of Islam. Jizya payments were intended to provide for security and military protection 

Emon, Anver M., 'Pluralism, Dhimmī Rules, and the Regulation of Difference', Religious Pluralism and Islamic Law: Dhimmis and Others in the Empire of Law, Oxford Islamic Legal Studies (Oxford, 2012; online edn, Oxford Academic, 20 Sept. 2012),

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On 4/28/2025 at 3:35 PM, Guest Kingpin said:

Not to defend them , but they think this land is theirs by believing their books , and when you believe you have greenlight from God , you will not feel guilty , let me ask you , Muslims believe they have a holy right to take Jizya for instance from the Christians and Jews , how is this any different principally ?! Believing in holy rights is very dangerous . 

There is a big diffirence between stealing some innocent persons land because of some ridicilous criteria that it belong to you 3000 years ago which can't be proved anyways versus imposing a usually small tax on non muslim fully healthy/mentally sound males so they can live in an islamic country without having to be forcefully conscripted into the army or lose protection from the state if they decide to refuse mandatory millitary conscription given they decided not to pay that tax. 

 

 

Beleiving in holy rights is dangerous if they contradict your fundemental beleifs or if they are too extreeme as most societies would not tolerate them and it could endanger your religion. Luckly islam is not extreeme with its holy rights, islam isn't demanding settler colonialism and genocide, or child sacrifices like the mayans or bu[Edited Out]o like the japanese in ww2. Unlike zionists who not only violate their own "thou shall not steal" principle and have a very extreeme holy right that most of the world agrees is uncivilised and barbaric behaviour, which is though settler colonialism and genocide. 

 

If most of the world has a problem with islamic states imposing a reasonable tax on people (muslim or non muslim) so their state can function, then may our creator help us, because humanity is doomed at this point. Luckly most of the world wouldn't find islamic holy rights extreem, yet.

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Fringe or mainstream?

 

Zionists have criticised the doc for a number of reasons which include the observations that only extremists are featured. The Guardian newspaper review of the doc, puts forward a similar idea at the end of their article (my bold):

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As with everything, you wish certain aspects of the situation could be explored more. Most notably, the peripheral glimpses of Israeli activists who protest against the settlements probably need more airtime, if only to demonstrate that this is a problem of individuals rather than an entire nation. But that’s by the by. It looks very much like we’ve got Louis Theroux back, and not a moment too soon.

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2025/apr/27/the-settlers-review-this-vital-film-forces-louis-theroux-to-do-something-hes-never-done-before

 

But the Guardian starts off the review with the following observation and I have put into bold the relevant text:

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But, 14 years on, he has returned to find that the settlements have accelerated. The settler ideology has found itself gaining political traction. What was fringe has now become mainstream.

 

This is really important. An extremist settler ideology is driving Israeli government policy. And it has implicitly become American and wider Western policy as well, given the unwillingness of these governments to criticise Israel, much less sanction it.

 

Of course there remains the issue about the obvious inconsistency within the article. I would put that down to editors trying to sanitise it.

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