Concerning taraweeh prayer and a hadith from al kafi

[mahmood8726]

Salam alaykoum, there is this intresting video that popped up and there is a hadith from al kafi that shows muhammad(صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) disapproving of taraweeh salah. However at the end of the hadith it says that he(صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) said:

"Do not pray after Isha prayer in any place other than the month of ramadan"

 

What is being reffered to here exactly? 

 

This is the arabic here too:

 

Edited March 14 by mahmood8726
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[Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi]

WS Brother.

There's no doubt that Rasool (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) used to increase his (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)'s prayers in the month of Ramadan. However, he stopped people from praying in congregation as mentioned in the narration that when people tried to pray behind him, he left them, but, he never forbid praying separately and that's what's being referred to in the last section.

That we should increase our prayers but not outside of Ramadhan.

Those prayers that we've to increase, must not be in congregation according to above narration therefore proving has to be separate. And also be in month of Ramadhan. This is talking about some nawafil that prophet (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) specifically prayed in ramadan not that we aren't allowed to recite any other nawafil outside of ramadan

For example, have a look at these hadiths from the same chapter:

https://thaqalayn.net/chapter/4/2/68

from abu Basir who has said the following: “Once we visited abu ‘ Abd Allah ((عليه السلام)), and abu Basir asked, ’What do you say about al- salat (prayer) during the month of Ramadan?’ He (the Imam) replied, ’The month of Ramadan has a special respect and right, unlike the other months. You should perform salat (prayer) as much as you can in optional forms during the nights and days. If you can, perform a thousand Rak’at salat (prayer) every twenty-four hours you can. Imam Ali ((عليه السلام)), toward the end of his life would say one thousand Rak’at salat (prayer) in twenty-four hours. O abu Muhammad, you should perform more salat (prayer) during the month of Ramadan.’ I then asked, ’I pray to Allah to keep my soul in service for your cause, how many Rak’ats (should one perform)?’ He said, ’During the first twenty nights, say twenty Rak’ats each night; eight Rak’ats before al-‘Atmah (late evening) and twelve Rak’ats thereafter, besides the prayers you would say before. During the last ten days, you should say thirty Rak’at every night; eight Rak’at before late evening, and twenty-two Rak’ats thereafter besides what you had been saying before these nights.’

from abu Basir who has said the following: “Abu ‘Abd Allah ((عليه السلام)), has said that the Messenger of Allah, O Allah, grant compensation to Muhammad and his family worthy of their services to Your cause, during the last ten days of the month of Ramadan would prepare himself well, stay away from women, stay awake the whole night, and free himself for worship.

from Sulayman al-Ja’fariy who has said the following: “Abu al-Hassan ((عليه السلام)), has said, ‘In the twenty- first and twenty-third nights, you should perform salat (prayer) of one hundred Rak’ats and in each Rak’at read Chapter 112 of the Holy Quran ten times.’

from Hammad ibn ‘Uthman from al-Fudayl ibn Yasar who has said the following: “Abu Ja’far ((عليه السلام)), during the twenty-first and twenty-third nights, would pray until the end of the night, then perform (the obligatory) salat (prayer).”

from Muhammad ibn Ahmad ibn Mutahhar who wrote to Abu Muhammad ((عليه السلام)), and informed him (the Imam) about a Hadith about the Prophet ﷺ. It said that he (the Prophet) performed thirteen Rak‘at prayers including al-Witr and the two Rak‘at morning prayer during the nights in the month of Ramadan. He (the Imam) wrote, ‘May Allah break his (narrator’s) mouth. He (the Prophet), during the month of Ramadan in the first twenty nights, performed twenty Rak‘ats every night. He performed eight Rak‘ats after maghrib prayer and twelve after 'isha’ prayer. He would peform ghusl on the nineteenth, twenty-first and twenty-third nights. In those nights, he performed one hundred Rak‘at prayers. In each Rak‘at he recited the Fatiha of the Book (Surah 1) and "Qul huwa Allahu ahad" (Surah 112) ten times. He would perform thirty Rak‘at in the remaining nights to the end of the month, as I have explained for you.’

[Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi]

Also when Hazrat Umar said: What an excellent innovation it is then must believe him 
قَالَ عُمَرُ نِعْمَ الْبِدْعَةُ هَذِهِ،

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:2010

Abdur Rahman bin 'Abdul Qari said,

"I went out in the company of 'Umar bin Al-Khattab one night in Ramadan to the mosque and found the people praying in different groups. A man praying alone or a man praying with a little group behind him. So, 'Umar said, 'In my opinion I would better collect these (people) under the leadership of one Qari (Reciter) (i.e. let them pray in congregation!)'. So, he made up his mind to congregate them behind Ubai bin Ka'b. Then on another night I went again in his company and the people were praying behind their reciter. On that, 'Umar remarked, 'What an excellent Bid'a (i.e. innovation in religion) this is; but the prayer which they do not perform, but sleep at its time is better than the one they are offering.' He meant the prayer in the last part of the night. (In those days) people used to pray in the early part of the night."

I agree with Hazrat Umar that sleeping is better than this Bidah

[mahmood8726]

10 hours ago, Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi said:

Also when Hazrat Umar said: What an excellent innovation it is then must believe him 
قَالَ عُمَرُ نِعْمَ الْبِدْعَةُ هَذِهِ،

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:2010

Abdur Rahman bin 'Abdul Qari said,

"I went out in the company of 'Umar bin Al-Khattab one night in Ramadan to the mosque and found the people praying in different groups. A man praying alone or a man praying with a little group behind him. So, 'Umar said, 'In my opinion I would better collect these (people) under the leadership of one Qari (Reciter) (i.e. let them pray in congregation!)'. So, he made up his mind to congregate them behind Ubai bin Ka'b. Then on another night I went again in his company and the people were praying behind their reciter. On that, 'Umar remarked, 'What an excellent Bid'a (i.e. innovation in religion) this is; but the prayer which they do not perform, but sleep at its time is better than the one they are offering.' He meant the prayer in the last part of the night. (In those days) people used to pray in the early part of the night."

I agree with Hazrat Umar that sleeping is better than this Bidah

What's funnier is sunnis justify it saying "muhammad(صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) used to pray it but stopped praying it in comgregation because he didn't want to make it obligatory and then Umar revived it" but even in their own hadiths, they seem to disagree with them because here Umar is saying that sleep is better. 

Edited March 14 by mahmood8726

[Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi]

20 minutes ago, mahmood8726 said:

What's funnier is sunnis justify it saying "muhammad(صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) used to pray it but stopped praying it in comgregation because he didn't want to make it obligatory and then Umar revived it" but even in their own hadiths, they seem to disagree with them because here Umar is saying that sleep is better. 

Exactly there's no proof for Rasool (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) praying Taraweeh. it's just nawafil for which people tried to join him and he stopped them.

Also, if you speak urdu, refer to lectures on Taraweeh by Hasan Allahyari he's explained things in a great detail.

There are several proofs that this "because he didn't want to make it obligatory" is a problematic statement i:e a lie attributed to Rasool (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) as there are many narrations that Rasool (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) consistently offered different nawafil but those never became obligatory on Ummah. Also it's in accepted traditions that those nawafil, that one can pray consistently (making them a part of life and not leaving them) are superior in the eyes of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) than those which one prays for a few times and leave.

 

[StrangerInThisWorld]

Here is a Hadith from Sahih al-Bukhari:

عَنْ زَيْدِ بْنِ ثَابِتٍ ـ رضى الله عنه ـ قَالَ احْتَجَرَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم حُجَيْرَةً مُخَصَّفَةً أَوْ حَصِيرًا، فَخَرَجَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم يُصَلِّي فِيهَا، فَتَتَبَّعَ إِلَيْهِ رِجَالٌ وَجَاءُوا يُصَلُّونَ بِصَلاَتِهِ، ثُمَّ جَاءُوا لَيْلَةً فَحَضَرُوا وَأَبْطَأَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم عَنْهُمْ، فَلَمْ يَخْرُجْ إِلَيْهِمْ فَرَفَعُوا أَصْوَاتَهُمْ وَحَصَبُوا الْبَابَ، فَخَرَجَ إِلَيْهِمْ مُغْضَبًا فَقَالَ لَهُمْ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ "‏ مَا زَالَ بِكُمْ صَنِيعُكُمْ حَتَّى ظَنَنْتُ أَنَّهُ سَيُكْتَبُ عَلَيْكُمْ، فَعَلَيْكُمْ بِالصَّلاَةِ فِي بُيُوتِكُمْ، فَإِنَّ خَيْرَ صَلاَةِ الْمَرْءِ فِي بَيْتِهِ، إِلاَّ الصَّلاَةَ الْمَكْتُوبَةَ

Narrated Zaid bin Thabit:

Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) made a small room (with a palm leaf mat). Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) came out (of his house) and prayed in it. Some men came and joined him in his prayer. Then again the next night they came for the prayer, but Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) delayed and did not come out to them. So they raised their voices and knocked the door with small stones (to draw his attention). He came out to them in a state of anger, saying, "You are still insisting (on your deed, i.e. Tarawih prayer in the mosque) that I thought that this prayer (Tarawih) might become obligatory on you. So you people, offer this prayer at your homes, for the best prayer of a person is the one which he offers at home, except the compulsory (congregational) prayer."

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(Note: What is written in the brackets are interpretations of the translator.) 

 

Some benefits from the above:

- Nawafil prayers (which includes the prayers in the night of Ramadan) are not to be prayed in congregation, but rather alone

- Some companions were similar to Bani Israil in their behavior towards their Prophets (peace and blessings be upon them), because raising ones voice and throwing little stones are acts that go against good manners

- If one sees that Rasulullah (sallallahu 'alayhi wa alihi wa sallam) is disliking something, then one should abstain from it