Hasan Allahyari vs Adnan Rasheed

[Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi]

Has anyone checked recent pre-debate discussion of Allayari and Adnan Rasheed.

Anyone who has checked the call, I kind of feel Adan Rasheed was being childish and running away this time. You all can say I'm a shia hence saying, but he's disrespects more than actually addressing what Allahyari proposed (can argue Allahyari is disrespectful too but he doesn't just disrespect and not address the other person)

Weird that he wanted 5 debates in Urdu and 5 in English to which objection was Adnan is known as an English Speaker more than he's known in urdu community, and there're less shia sunni debates in English compared to Urdu (happens all the times with people more worthy than adnan (scholars, muftis)). Adnan had no response like a child kept saying it has to be 5 english 5 urdu with no reasonable explanation

Allahyari agreed to a stream, moderator etc on Adnan's channel along with rules for debate. but insisted topics must be mutually agreed upon and agreed to debate on the topic of Calling upon other than Allah. 

Sort of made a fool of himself and refused to join tomorrow night for discussing what topics should they debate on. said he'd just post stuff publicly to which Allahyari said he won't even consider a post on his channel and insisted that he should join stream again to discuss/choose the topics to debate.

I do follow both Urdu/English communities to an extent and arguments these wahabis use against shias in speakers corner against those shias who aren't scholars and the mock and ridicule them, they're really gonna have a bad day/time debating Allahyari on these issues because we see similar arguments getting destroyed in Urdu debates with wahabi scholars mufits.

Let's see what happens.

Any thoughts?

Edited March 11 by Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi

[Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi]

Adnan Rasheed call starts from 1:44:00 in case anyone wants a timestamp

[GEU_40]

I have been seeing Adnan Rashid a lot on my social media feeds, "destroying" shia. Was waiting for someone to challenge him.

[Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi]

Yeah questioning random shias, ridiculing/mocking them, doing open takfir, making baseless arguments (wouldn't make in front of learned shia debater) and they call it destroying the shia. We see way many wahabi scholars making similar arguments embarrassing themselves every other day in live streams against Allahyari but on Urdu channel usually.

Let's see what happens next. I hope Adnan Rashid joins next call and discusses the topics for debate.

[Guest New User]

Don't think anyone gets "Defeated" by Shaykh Allahyari... Just because there is a lot of comments pro Shia and the headings seem to be biased... If you then login to the Sunni"versions "of the video... You'll see pro Sunni comments.. Saying Shia got ripped etc

Let the viewer decide.. 

[Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi]

On 3/13/2025 at 4:55 AM, Guest New User said:

Don't think anyone gets "Defeated" by Shaykh Allahyari... Just because there is a lot of comments pro Shia and the headings seem to be biased... If you then login to the Sunni"versions "of the video... You'll see pro Sunni comments.. Saying Shia got ripped etc

Let the viewer decide.. 

to a degree, viewers are mostly always biased but doesn't mean debate is a 50-50 always

Adnan appears to be making videos in urdu against Allahyari but it doesn't seem to have any weight since countless scholars have already been busted saying that stuff in live debates that happen every week.

Nothing new. If all one can do is cut small clips and just make claims or takfir in a small video but refuses to debate or makes excuses up, then there's nothing you can do about it really.

For anyone who has sense, Adnan ran away with excuses. Please tell me where i am wrong?

Edited March 15 by Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi

[mahmood8726]

I didn't watch this video, but I'm pretty sure adnan rasheed is one of the sc dawah salafi group, which have been exposed over and over again to be disingenious and some or their members like shimrani even allegedly being linked to terror orgs according to bayat al ghadeer. Bayat al ghadeer even made a series on these kind of polemiscists in a series:

Here they are dehumanizing shias:

 

 

 

 

 

Its an entire 7 part series which i urge you to watch 

 

And here is adnan rasheed defending him after this series and if I remeber in the video he even hated abu azazel(Iraqi rambo) for killing 500 isis thugs in a very brutal manner, in an islamically questionable way:

https://youtu.be/lGLRMe6QmGo?si=I58-KeD928jfdI_Z

https://youtu.be/kvi3I3YWZT0?si=a-vKXWMp3a61pDIJ

 

Here is a link to the full playlist:

 

 

 

 

I'm curious what this clown who "cared" about islamic rights when it concerned abu azrael treament of isis thugs, thinks about hts thugs killing "assad remnants" in a brutal fashion. 

 

Point is, expecting these people to be genuine is a lost cause, they're dishonest. 

 

Edited March 16 by mahmood8726

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 3/13/2025 at 3:25 AM, Guest New User said:

Don't think anyone gets "Defeated" by Shaykh Allahyari... Just because there is a lot of comments pro Shia and the headings seem to be biased... If you then login to the Sunni"versions "of the video... You'll see pro Sunni comments.. Saying Shia got ripped etc

Let the viewer decide.. 

Salam nobody cares about both f them because both of them evils on two sides of same coin which their so called debates & pro Shia pro Wahabi commnets under guise of Sunni"versions have no value which  just causes wasting of your time also just causes extending gap between Sunnis & shia Muslims & increasing hatered against other side more & more in each so called debate & following hateful comments by both sides.

[Guest Guest New User]

Excellent post Ashvazdanghe

100% agree 

 

If you look at the Sufi chains which are Sunni.. All of them go back to the Imams.. Including Naqshbandi Silsila.. 

 

[Syed Ali Mehdi Shah Naqvi]

@Ashvazdanghe i admit Allahyaris very harsh towards those who do taqlid and those scholars too but lets not forget his debates, videos has benefitted shias alot too. When wahabis do propganda against shias, rarely we see taqlidi scholars defending and answering them in such detail like Allahyaris doing. and shiasim is not admiring a specific group of scholars. There are problems everywhere, if Allahyari has problems, so does the other people.

[Abu_Zahra]

Publicized debates are rarely productive since it becomes a case of wanting to score points and build a reputation rather than to have a beneficial exchange.

One of the rare cases would be the series of discussions involving Sheikh Ahmed Salman