Trump says US will take 'take over' Gaza: 'We'll own it'

[Lion of Shia]

ABC News

Trump says US will take 'take over' Gaza: 'We'll own it'

 

      In a stunning proposal, President Donald Trump said Tuesday that the U.S. will "take over" the Gaza Strip, 'level the site" and rebuild it, after earlier saying Palestinians living there should leave.

"They instead can occupy all of a beautiful area with homes and safety, and they can live out their lives in peace and harmony" in other areas or countries, he said at a news conference with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

 

 

 

 

 

 

"The U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip, and we will do a job with it, too. We'll own it and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and other weapons on the site. Level the site and get rid of the destroyed buildings. Level it out," he said.

"Create an economic development that will supply unlimited numbers of jobs and housing for the people of the area," he added. "Do a real job. Do something different."

 

President Donald Trump and Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu hold a press conference in the East Room of the White House in Washington, D.C., on Feb. 4, 2025.© Andrew Caballero-Reynolds/AFP via Getty Images

"We should go to other countries of interest with humanitarian hearts, and there are many of them that want to do this and build various domains that will ultimately be occupied by the 1.8 million Palestinians living in Gaza, ending the death and destruction and frankly, bad luck," he said. "This can be paid for by neighboring countries of great wealth. It could be one, two, three, four, five, seven, eight, 12. It could be numerous sites, or it could be one large site," he said.

 

U.S. President Donald Trump looks on as he holds a joint press conference with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in the East Room at the White House in Washington, Feb. 4, 2025.© Leah Millis/Reuters

"But the people will be able to live in comfort and peace and will get sure -- we'll make sure something really spectacular is done. They're going to have peace. They're not going to be shot at and killed and destroyed like this civilization of -- of wonderful people has had to endure. The only reason the Palestinians want to go back to Gaza is they have no alternative," he said.

 

 

 

 

 

 

"I do see a long-term ownership position, and I see it bringing great stability to that part of the Middle East and maybe the entire Middle East. And everybody I have spoken to, this was not a decision made lightly," he continued. "Everybody I have spoken to loves the idea of the United States owning that piece of land, developing and creating thousands of jobs with something that will be magnificent in a really magnificent area that nobody would know."

 

U.S. President Donald Trump speaks during a joint press conference with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in the East Room at the White House in Washington, Feb. 4, 2025.© Leah Millis/Reuters

Asked who would live there, Trump responded, "the world's people," saying, "the potential in the Gaza Strip is unbelievable."

"History, as you know, just can't let it keep repeating itself. We have an opportunity to do something that could be phenomenal. And I don't want to be cute. I don't want to be a wise guy. But the Riviera of the Middle East, this could be something that could be so ... magnificent," he said.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Earlier, in the Oval Office, when he also raised the idea, a reporter asked if Palestinians would have the right to return.

"Why would they want to return?" he responded.

"It would be my hope that we could do something really nice, really good, where they wouldn't want to return," he said. Why would they want to return? That place has been hell. It's been one of the meanest, one of the meanest, toughest places on earth," he said.

Asked about sending U.S. troops to Gaza, Trump appeared open to the possibility.

"As far as Gaza is concerned, we'll do what is necessary. If it's necessary, we'll do that," Trump said. "We're going to take over that place and we're going to develop it, create thousands and thousands of jobs."

 

US President Donald Trump (R) and Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu take questions during a press conference in the East Room of the White House in Washington, D.C., on Feb. 4, 2025.© Andrew Caballero-Reynolds/AFP via Getty Images

Netanyahu, delivering remarks after Trump, praised the president for his "fresh ideas" to accomplish their goals, which he said included ensuring Gaza is not a threat to Israel.

"I believe, Mr. President, that your willingness to puncture conventional thinking, thinking that has failed time and time and time again, your willingness to think outside the box with fresh ideas will help us achieve all these goals," he said.

 

Asked if his view that Palestinians should be relocated from Gaza is a sign that he is against the two-state policy that has been the foreign policy approach of the United States for decades, Trump said no.

"It doesn't mean anything about a two-state or one state or any other state. It means that we want to have, we want to give people a chance at life," he said. "They have never had a chance at life because the Gaza Strip has been a hellhole for people living there. It's been horrible."

The president argued that his proposal would benefit the Middle East as a whole and not only Israel.

"I have to stress, this is not for Israel," he said. "This is for everybody in the Middle East. Arabs, Muslims, this is for everybody. You have to learn from history. You can't keep doing the same mistake over and over again. Gaza is a hellhole right now," he said.

 

"I've studied it. I've studied this very closely over a lot of months, and I've seen it from every different angle," he said. "And it's a very, very dangerous place to be. And it's only going to get worse. And I think this is an idea that's gotten tremendous -- and I'm talking about from the highest level of leadership -- gotten tremendous praise."

[mahmood8726]

Go ahead, keep giving the pretext to liberate palestine, keep saying the quiet part out loud you sick lunatic. 

His wet dream will never be realized, Palestinians will not face the same fate as the native americans, not from Israel, not from the two satanic parties in America, or any other empire.

 

They plan, but Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) plans.

 

Lanatullah on the oppressors such as natenyahu, trump and Biden, may Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) curse them in this world and in the next and give them a painful death.

Edited February 5 by mahmood8726

[Panzerwaffe]

43 minutes ago, mahmood8726 said:

Go ahead, keep giving the pretext to liberate palestine, keep saying the quiet part out loud you sick lunatic. 

His wet dream will never be realized, Palestinians will not face the same fate as the native americans, not from Israel, not from the two satanic parties in America, or any other empire.

 

They plan, but Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) plans.

 

Lanatullah on the oppressors such as natenyahu, trump and Biden, may Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) curse them in this world and in the next and give them a painful death.

Native Americans? They got the best deal EVER 

 

[mahmood8726]

9 hours ago, Panzerwaffe said:

Native Americans? They got the best deal EVER 

 

Nice rage bait. 

[Eddie Mecca]

All these tragedies are happening to the Muslim world precisely because we didn't aid and assist our Native American brothers and sisters...and we were too busy snoring and snoozing to help our black brethren during the Atlantic Slave Trade...now we want the entire planet to cry for Palestine and Lebanon...we're the biggest hypocrites to have ever lived in human history

[Eddie Mecca]

On 2/4/2025 at 10:10 PM, mahmood8726 said:

Palestinians will not face the same fate as the native americans

Actually, there's an End Times hadith that says Arabs will be reduced in number by 66%...it could be an allusion to the creation of Greater Israel

[Eddie Mecca]

15 minutes ago, Eddie Mecca said:

we didn't aid and assist our Native American brothers and sisters

The Ottomans should have dispatched their garrisons to the Northern Hemisphere and killed off all the Spaniards

[Ashvazdanghe]

43 minutes ago, Eddie Mecca said:

Actually, there's an End Times hadith that says Arabs will be reduced in number by 66%...it could be an allusion to the creation of Greater Israel

This is totally nonsense which any end time hadith has not validity which in this case supporting creation of greater israel is ridiculous .

52 minutes ago, Eddie Mecca said:

All these tragedies are happening to the Muslim world precisely because we didn't aid and assist our Native American brothers and sisters...and we were too busy snoring and snoozing to help our black brethren during the Atlantic Slave Trade...now we want the entire planet to cry for Palestine and Lebanon...we're the biggest hypocrites to have ever lived in human history

Salam how we could help them when even we have not been aware their existence which your nonsense has no value which we always have helped all oppressed as much as possible has been possible for us from any race or nation .

34 minutes ago, Eddie Mecca said:

The Ottomans should have dispatched their garrisons to the Northern Hemisphere and killed off all the Spaniards

This is totally wrong & encouraging massacre & genocide just based on your whims. 

[mahmood8726]

3 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

All these tragedies are happening to the Muslim world precisely because we didn't aid and assist our Native American brothers and sisters...and we were too busy snoring and snoozing to help our black brethren during the Atlantic Slave Trade...now we want the entire planet to cry for Palestine and Lebanon...we're the biggest hypocrites to have ever lived in human history

How could we help them and how are we hypocrites when we didn't even exist.

[Panzerwaffe]

3 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

All these tragedies are happening to the Muslim world precisely because we didn't aid and assist our Native American brothers and sisters...and we were too busy snoring and snoozing to help our black brethren during the Atlantic Slave Trade...now we want the entire planet to cry for Palestine and Lebanon...we're the biggest hypocrites to have ever lived in human history

lol we were busy trading Africans as slaves at the time the uncivilized Europeans were busy feuding over little villages and few sheep 

[mahmood8726]

3 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

The Ottomans should have dispatched their garrisons to the Northern Hemisphere and killed off all the Spaniards

The ottomans would have not saved native americans from being enslaved and slaugthered in mass by the europeans, the reality is they didn't care that the Spaniards were chopping the hands of some native americans who didn't work hard enough. However the ottomans not doing anything in 1400-1900AD has nothing to do with us. 

 

Even if the ottomans wanted, it would have been impossible, precisely because the Spanish cut off their route to the americas via the corridor that leads from the Atlantic to the medetiranian. 

[Eddie Mecca]

4 hours ago, mahmood8726 said:

we didn't even exist.

Muslims didn't exist in 1492?

6 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

This is totally wrong & encouraging massacre & genocide just based on your whims

It's not based on my whims...it's based on historical fact...you're the one encouraging a massacre...I'm arguing many historical atrocities could have been averted had the Muslims acted swiftly and decisively...but the Safavids and Ottomans were too busy fighting each other like idiots...there are some End Times narrations that mention the possibility of many doomsday prophecies being averted if the Muslims act in a proactive manner and act timely...the time to act was 500 - 1,000 years ago...many of these problems go back to the time of the First Crusade in 1095...now we're hurrying and scrambling and trying to cram for the test the night before the exam...most, if not all, End Times prophecies will be fulfilled now

Edited February 6 by Eddie Mecca

[Eddie Mecca]

8 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

killed off all the Spaniards

By "Spaniards" I was referring to the conquistadors 

[Azadeh307]

8 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

these tragedies are happening to the Muslim world precisely because we didn't aid and assist our Native American brothers and sisters...and we were too busy snoring and snoozing to help our black brethren during the Atlantic Slave Trade...now we want the entire planet to cry for Palestine and Lebanon...we're the biggest hypocrites to have ever lived in human history

About 1/3 of the Africans brought to America to be sold as slaves were Muslims. Omar Ibn Said was one such person. He was an Islamic scholar who was captured and brought to the US. He wrote an autobiography in Arabic where he talks about his Islamic faith. The autobiography is held in the Library of Congress. 
 

But to your point other Muslims outside of the Sokoto Empire in West Africa region could have done something. The Sokoto empire was mostly Sufi Sunnis but check my understanding of that.

[Eddie Mecca]

@Ashvazdanghe, if you don't have a problem with the Spaniards and Conquistadors overrunning the indigenous people in the Northern Hemisphere...Europeans committing genocide and commiting slaughter, rape and enslavement etc. in the New World...then you shouldn't have a problem with white Jews doing it in Palestine, Lebanon, Syria ( i.e. the Old World) etc....please be consistent...why the double-standard? Muslims are responsible for World War 1, World War 2, apartheid South Africa, Jewish Haulocaust in Germany etc. etc. We (i.e. the Muslims) are supposed to be the stewards and protectors and guardians of the earth but we've been napping for hundreds of years and now we're wondering why everything's topsy turvy...all the societal ills plauging the world currently are our responsibility...being appointed khilafah on the ardh is a humongous responsibility my brother

Edited February 6 by Eddie Mecca

[mahmood8726]

2 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

Muslims didn't exist in 1492?

Im talking about modern Muslims. Blaming modern people for the sins of past people is stupid and against Islam. 

 

I won't blame some modern European for example for the actions of the elites of his former society chopping the hands of some indigenous American and enslaving them. 

 

Modern Muslims don't deserve this because some of their elites 600 years ago decided to mess things up, this is ridicilous. 

Edited February 6 by mahmood8726

[mahmood8726]

1 hour ago, Eddie Mecca said:

@Ashvazdanghe, if you don't have a problem with the Spaniards and Conquistadors overrunning the indigenous people in the Northern Hemisphere...Europeans committing genocide and commiting slaughter, rape and enslavement etc. in the New World...then you shouldn't have a problem with white Jews doing it in Palestine, Lebanon, Syria ( i.e. the Old World) etc....please be consistent...why the double-standard? Muslims are responsible for World War 1, World War 2, apartheid South Africa, Jewish Haulocaust in Germany etc. etc. We (i.e. the Muslims) are supposed to be the stewards and protectors and guardians of the earth but we've been napping for hundreds of years and now we're wondering why everything's topsy turvy...all the societal ills plauging the world currently are our responsibility...being appointed khilafah on the ardh is a humongous responsibility my brother

Were not wondering, were constantly reminding ourselves that the elites of our former Islamic societies messed up. Almost all are saying that "ummah" destroyed itself along with being colonised. 

 

Most muslim or non muslim rulers were a bunch of degenerates who only cared about conquest, women, power and wealth. Most of your ancestors, my ancestors, the ancestors of the europeans, natives, etc.... were busy tending to their farm or low income job or slave labor for their master or serfdom for their lord.

 

He's disagreeing with this ridicilous argument that were somehow guilty of their sins and deserve this. 

Edited February 6 by mahmood8726

[Abu Nur]

https://youtu.be/Zb4BksXtv1Y?si=Ka45V4lFfIIsd5H6

[Eddie Mecca]

Mohammad Marandi Reacts to Trump's Dangerous Plan To Occupy Gaza - India & Global Left - 30 minutes 

 

[Eddie Mecca]

Trump Promises Ethnic Cleansing of Gaza w/ Bibi by His Side - Due Dissidence - approximately 35 minutes 

 

[notme]

While horrific, please keep in mind that Trump lies. Almost every threat he has made has been a lie.

Meanwhile the south african nazi minion has been hacking the entire US financial system and stealing everyone's account numbers and payment histories.

[Meedy]

Jordan and Egypt will be pooping their pants because if they refused to obey, they are screwed because it could lead to US giving Jordan and Egypt a taste of "democracy" or some sort of punishment. 

Trump lies can be affective. Few countries that he threatened with tariffs, first they refused then they bowed down their head and accepted his demand.

[Abu Hadi]

In my lifetime, this is the stupidest thing I have ever heard a US President say. 

At the same time I agree with @notme and others that it is a bluff and a lie. They are already 'walking back' the statement by saying Trump never said he would send US troops. At the same time, I think this statement is a setup for some future action involving Zionists and US. I'm not sure what it is at this point. 

[mahmood8726]

1 hour ago, Abu Hadi said:

In my lifetime, this is the stupidest thing I have ever heard a US President say. 

At the same time I agree with @notme and others that it is a bluff and a lie. They are already 'walking back' the statement by saying Trump never said he would send US troops. At the same time, I think this statement is a setup for some future action involving Zionists and US. I'm not sure what it is at this point. 

Its not a bluff and a lie, they have been planning to occupy and ethnically cleanse Gaza for a long time. Biden last year kept pressuring Egypt dozens of time to take Palestinians from Gaza and Egypt refused, Biden was even called out for pushing an ethnic cleansing campaign under the guise of "helping" the people of Gaza. Trump is doing the same, but now that idiot is opening his mouth and saying the plan outloud, but he tried backtracking it saying it was going to be "temporary", which it won't and now I learn from you that they're fully backtracking their claims, that's expected after the backlash they got. 

[mahmood8726]

2 hours ago, Abu Hadi said:

At the same time, I think this statement is a setup for some future action involving Zionists and US. I'm not sure what it is at this point. 

It is, apparently they are planning to regime change Egypt and Jordan if they don't comply with ethnically cleansing Palestinians from Gaza. Just like they did with Bashar, sisi and Jordan's king(who are us puppets mind you) are next. 

[Panzerwaffe]

On 2/6/2025 at 7:33 AM, Eddie Mecca said:

By "Spaniards" I was referring to the conquistadors 

Brother they were like Sahaba e Karam 

only a lot more  brave

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 2/6/2025 at 6:24 PM, Eddie Mecca said:

It's not based on my whims...it's based on historical fact...you're the one encouraging a massacre

Salam how I'm encouraging a massacre  which your whims are based on misinterpreting end time prophecies from unreliable sources . 

 

On 2/6/2025 at 6:24 PM, Eddie Mecca said:

but the Safavids

Based on historical facts Safavids have fought with portugues  conquistadors  who conquered Qeshm Island so then have taken it back from them .

On 2/6/2025 at 8:28 PM, Eddie Mecca said:

@Ashvazdanghe, if you don't have a problem with the Spaniards and Conquistadors overrunning the indigenous people in the Northern Hemisphere...Europeans committing genocide and commiting slaughter, rape and enslavement etc. in the New World...then you shouldn't have a problem with white Jews doing it in Palestine, Lebanon, Syria ( i.e. the Old World) etc....please be consistent...why the double-standard? Muslims are responsible for World War 1, World War 2, apartheid South Africa, Jewish Haulocaust in Germany etc. etc. We (i.e. the Muslims) are supposed to be the stewards and protectors and guardians of the earth but we've been napping for hundreds of years and now we're wondering why everything's topsy turvy...all the societal ills plauging the world currently are our responsibility...being appointed khilafah on the ardh is a humongous responsibility my brother

Your are comparing apples with oranges based on being in parallel  world which you could do anything but you have not done anything ;   but in real world Iranians have not been aware of existence of America until Qajar era during reign of Naser al -din Shah which at tha era the Spaniards and Conquistadors have not  existed anymore while Palestine has been conquered at end of Qajar era which from beginning all Shia Marjas so consequently all Shias including people of Iran have opposed it which people of Iran have been victims of artificial famine uring WW1 & 2 which in both wars iran has not a strong army even to protect it's borders against invasion of British & Russian & American armies .   

Iran has opposed apartheid in South Africa  after Islamic revolution which Iran has been one of greatest supporters of Mandella for it's war against apartheid.

 

Quote

It severed official relations with South Africa in 1979 and imposed a trade boycott in protest against the country's apartheid policies. However, in January 1994, Iran lifted all trade and economic sanctions against South Africa and diplomatic relations were reestablished on 10 May 1994

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran–South_Africa_relations

https://www.pretoria.mfa.ir/en/generalcategoryservices/10925/iran–south-africa-relations

On 2/6/2025 at 8:28 PM, Eddie Mecca said:

Jewish Haulocaust in Germany

It's a saga by zionist however ironically one of causes of fall of reza Shah Pahlavi has been supporting Hitler & Nazi Germany while all jews have been safe from  his time  in Iran until now although all propaganda against Iran .

On 2/6/2025 at 8:28 PM, Eddie Mecca said:

We (i.e. the Muslims) are supposed to be the stewards and protectors and guardians of the earth but we've been napping for hundreds of years and now we're wondering why everything's topsy turvy...all the societal ills plauging the world currently are our responsibility...being appointed khilafah on the ardh is a humongous responsibility my brother

As Iran & iranians we always have done all our best until now although all our short comings but maybe you are an almighty being which you could do anything in similar fashion of Imam Mahdi (aj) but you have refused to do your duty .

Edited February 8 by Ashvazdanghe

[Shaheed786]

On 2/7/2025 at 6:23 AM, Abu Hadi said:

In my lifetime, this is the stupidest thing I have ever heard a US President say. 

At the same time I agree with @notme and others that it is a bluff and a lie. They are already 'walking back' the statement by saying Trump never said he would send US troops. At the same time, I think this statement is a setup for some future action involving Zionists and US. I'm not sure what it is at this point. 

While Trump is indeed a pathological liar with delusions of grandeur a very elementary understanding of the world, I believe we should not be so quick to write off what he is saying here regarding Gaza. As some commentators often say, we shouldn't take Trump literally, but at the same time we should take him seriously. The fact that he keeps repeating this means something. I'm not saying that his literal plan will be implemented or even attempted, but it's probably pointing to something deeper in terms of US-Israelis strategy. 

This comes back to something I keep repeating in this forum, that we are living through a profound shift. We are transitioning out of the post WW2 global order into a new one, and great upheavals are happening and will keep happening. Regular assumptions about economics, politics and geopolitics will not be sufficient to gauge what's going on. 

You recently were quite confidant that the Zios would not enter Lebanon in a major war, that they were bluffing and were not ready to incur the costs of such an attack. As I said then, in the midst of this tectonic shift, these forces are not going to behave typically or even rationally. I turned out to be right, they entered Lebanon in a major way, which had major consequences, including unforeseen ones like the collapse of the Assad regime. 

Even though Trump and various people in his orbit are in some ways profoundly stupid and delusional about the world and American power, they do see the writing on the wall regarding this shift. They are not giving up imperialism, but instead focusing on a more "localized" version, in which they will broaden their slice of the pie (US sphere of influence) in this multi-polar system (hence Greenland, Canada, Panama canal etc..), while conceding that other great powers like Russia and China will have their own spheres. While crazy at first glance, in light of the tectonic shift, it's no less irrational and futile than the approach of Biden, who was an out-of-touch cold-warrior from a bygone era, trying to reassert US hegemony. We shouldn't forget what dangerous war mongers Biden and his people were. 

The Zios see this as a once in a generation, if not once in a century opportunity to reconfigure the entire region, and solve their "Palestinian problem" once and for all. Don't forget that Miriam Adelson gave Trump $100mn with the promise that he recognize Israeli formal annexation of the West Bank (and potentially seek to ethnically cleanse their too). Nothing can happen outside of the will of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) and I believe that they will fail and Palestine will be free Inshallah. But in these unstable times, I don't write off the possibility that these people will attempt anything. Personally, I feel like COVID ushered in a new era, and that the unfolding of events is accelerating. It's in times like these that we must pray for the reappearance of the Imam of our Time fervently, and prioritize the protection of our hearts and Imaan. 

Edited February 8 by Shaheed786

[Eddie Mecca]

On 2/7/2025 at 7:46 PM, Panzerwaffe said:

Brother they were like Sahaba e Karam 

only a lot more  brave

The Companions generally did good...we only have a problem with the ones that fought Imam Ali and oppressed Bani Hashim...let's not make exaggerated claims like the Shirazis

22 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam how I'm encouraging a massacre  which your whims are based on misinterpreting end time prophecies from unreliable sources . 

In my opinion, Sunni and Shi'i End Times prophecies have proven themselves to be pretty reliable...they harmonize with each other pretty well and they're all being realized and fulfilled one-by-one...I'm telling you there's a narration which mentions the Arab population in ME dwindling...do with that what you will...it's there in black and white and it's been there for approximately 1,200 years...I was offering a possible interpretation of Arab numbers decreasing due to European expansion by way of Movement for Greater Israel...also, if the Sufyani begins killing Arab Shi'is in the Levantine region...then this could be another viable fit for the narration...my statements are subject to error and I rarely speak in absolutes...that's your department 

[Panzerwaffe]

40 minutes ago, Eddie Mecca said:

The Companions generally did good...we only have a problem with the ones that fought Imam Ali and oppressed Bani Hashim...let's not make exaggerated claims like the Shirazis

In my opinion, Sunni and Shi'i End Times prophecies have proven themselves to be pretty reliable...they harmonize with each other pretty well and they're all being realized and fulfilled one-by-one...I'm telling you there's a narration which mentions the Arab population in ME dwindling...do with that what you will...it's there in black and white and it's been there for approximately 1,200 years...I was offering a possible interpretation of Arab numbers decreasing due to European expansion by way of Movement for Greater Israel...also, if the Sufyani begins killing Arab Shi'is in the Levantine region...then this could be another viable fit for the narration...my statements are subject to error and I rarely speak in absolutes...that's your department 

You misunderstand brother
Of course, the companions did good generally speaking. I have a favorable opinion on many of those who are criticized quite unfairly by Shias ( of today ) 

That’s what I meant. Similarly the conquistadors brought technology, religious civilization and modernity to the new world 

 

conquistadors were more brave though you know why ?because they literally had to burn their ships and come thousands of miles away from home with no hope of relief being hopelessly outnumbered by the natives, and still pulled off a stunning victory  from the jaws of defeat. It is quite literally the greatest comeback in history after their Spanish civilization was nearly extinguished by the Moors 

Edited February 9 by Panzerwaffe

[Eddie Mecca]

14 hours ago, Shaheed786 said:

This comes back to something I keep repeating in this forum, that we are living through a profound shift. We are transitioning out of the post WW2 global order into a new one, and great upheavals are happening and will keep happening. Regular assumptions about economics, politics and geopolitics will not be sufficient to gauge what's going on. 

Brother @Shaheed786 is indeed aware...I too have been repeating this mantra but it has largely fallen on deaf ears...people are quick to dismiss it as speculative or imaginative jibber-jabber...the Mayans were correct...we're entering a new era...the new aeon is an Islamic one but the Satanists believe if they exert enough effort then they can alter and sabotage the will of God...things can't be easily be explained away as they were previously...the fundamentals don’t make sense anymore...age-old principles of secular thought are being questioned and eroding...formerly perceived grounded pillars of Western civilization are collapsing before our eyes...any attempt to use standard geopolitical arguments based on pre-2012 models will be unsuccessful...same can be said of what was previously understood of science, physics etc...the dawning of an age of spiritual enlightenment is now upon humanity...a time which has never been witnessed before (i.e. since the world began)...but before the light can illuminate to full radiance the darkness must come 

[mahmood8726]

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/15423

The Iranian Foreign Minister called with the Foreign Ministers of Egypt, Turkey, and Tunisia

Reportedly, Iran is urgently trying to form a coalition of countries, in order to oppose the Israeli-US plan to displace Palestinians from Gaza, by any means possible.

All of the conversations were about this very same topic – this indicates there is something urgent ongoing behind the screens, and Iran may see the displacement of Palestinians from Gaza as a 'red line'.

 

[Panzerwaffe]

8 minutes ago, mahmood8726 said:

https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/15423

The Iranian Foreign Minister called with the Foreign Ministers of Egypt, Turkey, and Tunisia

Reportedly, Iran is urgently trying to form a coalition of countries, in order to oppose the Israeli-US plan to displace Palestinians from Gaza, by any means possible.

All of the conversations were about this very same topic – this indicates there is something urgent ongoing behind the screens, and Iran may see the displacement of Palestinians from Gaza as a 'red line'.

 

What can Muslim/arab  countries realistically do ?

[Otto Kretschmer]

(I'm not an expert on geopolitics).

The best option would be to replace the current ruling elites in Turkey and Saudi Arabia with proper Islamic rulers who prioritize cooperation and genuine interested faith dialogue over personal gain.

But I don't have the faintest idea of how this could be achieved. In Turkey the only viable opposition are the Kemalists.

 

[mahmood8726]

6 hours ago, Panzerwaffe said:

What can Muslim/arab  countries realistically do ?

If America and israel go through with their ethnic cleansing plan and colonise Gaza fully by wiping it flat and building on top of it, that will trigger a regional war. They will bring America and israel a war, the same way the allies brought Hitler a war after he invaded Poland. 

Egypt is a strong army, they're no joke, so is turkey. 

Turkey probably won't do much, but Egypt, despite being morally corrupt and being a US puppet, they will dissolve the David accords and stop being a US puppet if America goes through with this plan, because Egypt can't afford to take in that many refugees. Turkey litterally overthrew bashar because millions of syrian refugees lived in turkey and Bashar refused to take them. Don't expect Egypt to allow that many refugees from Gaza and be cool with it.