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14 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam according to Narrations Sufyani will be accepted by majority of Sunnis as their leader which they will be united under his banner while Jolani has not this popularity between Sunnis also maybe Sufyani will defeat two opposition groups who are anti shia which are in fight with each other in order to unite all anti Shia forces under his banner also uprising Sufyani & Yamani as his rival will be at same year in too close time anyway greatest sign of Sufyani is seizing five major regions including Jordan & Palestine & ruling about 9 months over these 5 regions  .

 

 

https://al-islam.org/shia-and-despotic-rulers-muhammad-jawad-mughniyya/bani-abbas

 

I agree, it’s only a big amount of Syrian, Palestinian and Jordanian support this terrorist. Majority of Sunnis do not. 

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On 4/7/2025 at 2:36 AM, Diaz said:

I agree, it’s only a big amount of Syrian, Palestinian and Jordanian support this terrorist. Majority of Sunnis do not. 

@Diaz @Ashvazdanghe Additionally, Jolani’s Turkish backers are on good terms with the U.S. and Israel, so he is unlikely to fulfil the narrations by taking over Palestine. Numerous reports indicate that Jolani is essentially a joint American–Israeli–Turkish project, while also being backed by the GCC and the EU. Just recently Trump proclaimed his support for Erdoğan—and by implication Jolani—in Netanyahu’s presence, calling the takeover of Syria by HTS a tremendous achievement by Turkey:

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The United States together with Israel and Turkey will be able to reach an agreement on Syria, US President Donald Trump said, replying to questions at a meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

"Any problem that you have with Turkey, I think we can solve, as long as you are reasonable, you have to be reasonable," he told Netanyahu, stressing that he has very good relations with Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

The US president noted that during a conversation with his Turkish counterpart, he congratulated him on "taking over Syria," accomplishing something that "nobody has done in 2,000 years."

^ So someone like Jolani definitely will not be challenging Zionism anytime soon.

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On 4/7/2025 at 12:38 AM, Ashvazdanghe said:

What are the signs of Imam Zaman’s (عليه السلام) dhuhur (reappearance) and which ones are reliable?

This doesn't mean what you think it means...these narrations are simply saying that Allah reserves the right to change events, postpone events etc. This is because the Jews say that Allah's hands are Shackled 

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On 12/14/2024 at 8:56 PM, Abbas0 said:

the Hadiths say sufyani comes out with a vengeance basically saying “my lord, first I kill kill kill (avenge) and then I’ll go to hell after that idc” is basically how his mentality will be. What will he avenge tho?

The revenge part could be the Axis of Resistance setting back or sabotaging the plans of the Crusaders, Zionists and Takfiris by 15 years...HTS and American administration is extremely angry at the Shi'a for wasting billions of their dollars and manpower and time...now they have a score to settle w/ Iran and its allies...especially the Muslim Brotherhood-affiliated groups in Syria...they've been trying to oust Assad since 1975 and have experienced setback after setback...hence the vengeance 

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On 1/6/2025 at 12:31 AM, Eddie Mecca said:

I visited an online Salafi community platform a while back...and some of the contributors were attempting to make the case that Al Sufyani will be a righteous figure

"In contrast, McCants writes that while Sunnis also have prophecies about a Sufyani, some include him in a heroic mode, "fighting on the side of the Mahdi against his enemies: 'The Sufyani and the Mahdi will come forth like two race horses. The Sufyani will subdue (the region) that is next to him, and the Mahdi will subdue (the region) next to him.'" McCants quotes Adnan al-Aroor, a "popular Syrian Salafi cleric", hoping for the appearance of the Sufyani to lead the Sunni rebels to victory in the Syrian civil war: "God willing, all of us will be in the army of the Sufyani, who will appear in (Syria) by the permission of God," prayed Adnan al-Arur, a popular Syrian Salafi cleric and supporter of the rebellion who currently lives in Saudi Arabia." - Wikipedia

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US is consolidating its troops in Syria (likely a move to protect them before times of trouble in the region).

They have also withdrawn troops to Iraq (where the US has bases with better air defence), and they have allegedly handed over some heavy equipment to the SDF like artillery pieces.

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On 5/12/2025 at 2:02 AM, RiseOrDie said:

US is consolidating its troops in Syria (likely a move to protect them before times of trouble in the region).

@RiseOrDie So long as the U.S. views Iran as a regional problem, any talk of “withdrawal” is likely to remain a smokescreen, in my view. During his first term Trump often spoke of exiting Syria while also espousing a hardline anti-Iran stance. Given geography, I could never really understand Trump’s logic; a U.S. military presence in Syria would be the strongest guarantee vs. Iranian influence there and in Lebanon. At any rate, Trump’s approach was to substitute some wars (i.e., on Iran and the “Resistance Axis”) for others (i.e., Ukraine), not to abandon militaristic U.S. imperial hegemony in general.

On 5/12/2025 at 2:02 AM, RiseOrDie said:

They have also withdrawn troops to Iraq (where the US has bases with better air defence), and they have allegedly handed over some heavy equipment to the SDF like artillery pieces.

^ Do you have a source for this? Right now the U.S. and its proxies seem to be backing a centralised, unified Syria under Jolani/HTS to effectively counter Iran. As I mentioned before, apparently the SDF is now sending Damascus oil, despite possible quibbles on internal governance, and most Druze factions have submitted to the government for now; mediation helped suppress the brief Druze–Islamist flareup recently. Any fight among HTS, Druze, and the SDF would badly harm the American–Israeli effort vs. Iran.

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6 hours ago, Northwest said:

@RiseOrDie So long as the U.S. views Iran as a regional problem, any talk of “withdrawal” is likely to remain a smokescreen, in my view. During his first term Trump often spoke of exiting Syria while also espousing a hardline anti-Iran stance. Given geography, I could never really understand Trump’s logic; a U.S. military presence in Syria would be the strongest guarantee vs. Iranian influence there and in Lebanon. At any rate, Trump’s approach was to substitute some wars (i.e., on Iran and the “Resistance Axis”) for others (i.e., Ukraine), not to abandon militaristic U.S. imperial hegemony in general.

^ Do you have a source for this? Right now the U.S. and its proxies seem to be backing a centralised, unified Syria under Jolani/HTS to effectively counter Iran. As I mentioned before, apparently the SDF is now sending Damascus oil, despite possible quibbles on internal governance, and most Druze factions have submitted to the government for now; mediation helped suppress the brief Druze–Islamist flareup recently. Any fight among HTS, Druze, and the SDF would badly harm the American–Israeli effort vs. Iran.

I agree with you. 

Regarding the news about the heavy weapons, this was denied by SDF. Also the only noise about it was coming from pro-HTS and some radical pro-Erdogan accounts.

For now the Trump/Netanyahu strategy is employing soft power and hard power to achieve joint goals. I think their current disagreement is fake, Netanyahu uses hard power like threats, bombing, sabotage meanwhile Trump comes in with negotiations, deals, and sanctions relief. 

They're doing in Gaza, they did it against Joulani, and they're trying it against Iran. This way they squeeze the best deal for Israel. Its all in Trumps book 'Art of the deal'. For example he used lawyers or politcians to pressure and bully potential rivals, then he comes in with a very 'bad deal' that he refers to as a great deal.

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11 hours ago, Northwest said:

Any fight among HTS, Druze, and the SDF would badly harm the American–Israeli effort vs. Iran.

Hi their long term plan is Balkanization of whole of region toward western borders of India based on new  middle east doctrine which Balkanization of Syria & Iraq & Iran even Turkey  specially Iran will be in favor interests of American–Israeli .

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Energy And Commerce Will Drive Trump’s New Middle East Doctrine

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The Trump Doctrine Strategy

This is where the dealmaking feeds into a comprehensive strategy backed by American energy and economic might, and a presidential exercise of geopolitical leverage. In his speech in Riyadh, President Trump discarded the neoconservative, morality-based, nation building approach which led to the creation during the George W. Bush years of disastrous, seemingly interminable wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

“In the end,” Trump said, “the so-called nation builders wrecked far more nations than they built and the interventionalists were intervening in complex societies that they did not even understand themselves."

In place of the neo-con vision for the Middle East, Trump laid out a vision that discards fights over morality and religious differences, replaced by a vision grounded in commerce and energy. All of it revolves around Trump’s revised goals related to the enhancement of American energy security.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidblackmon/2025/05/18/energy-and-commerce-will-drive-trumps-new-middle-east-doctrine/

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In practice, the Wolfowitz Doctrine influenced the US to perceive of all states as being part of a zero-sum power game and having a unique role to play, which in turn was elaborated upon by Zbigniew Bzezinski in his 1997 work about the “Grand Chessboard”[14]. The US’ goal is to either co-opt or control all states in the world in order to bring them into Western-led institutions, from where they could then be subordinated, neutralized, and redirected as weaponized chess pieces against the remaining players, taken in this case to be Russia, China, and Iran. As the US strives towards this megalomaniac goal, it is invariably placed in circumstances where its decision makers and strategists see an advantageous desire to engage in regime change.

The US promotes regime change through one of two ways. The first one is direct and in accordance with the neorealistic model of direct state-on-state force, but this is costly in terms of both personnel and finances. The most prominent example is Iraq, but Panama and Grenada are two smaller-scale ones where a conventional regime change military invasion didn’t result in a total war against the population. On the other hand there’s the indirect model which follows the neoliberal theory. The concept here is to use diplomacy to gradually promote the long-term transformation of the targeted state, such as like what the US is presently employing in regards to Iran, Cuba, and Myanmar. The problem, though, is the timeframe, which might not be sufficient for some decision makers who might think that the matter at hand is much too urgently pressing to potentially dilly dally around for decades.

https://en.interaffairs.ru/article/ir-theory-and-the-new-middle-east/

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9 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Hi their long term plan is Balkanization of whole of region toward western borders of India based on new  middle east doctrine which Balkanization of Syria & Iraq & Iran even Turkey  specially Iran will be in favor interests of American–Israeli.

Energy And Commerce Will Drive Trump’s New Middle East Doctrine

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidblackmon/2025/05/18/energy-and-commerce-will-drive-trumps-new-middle-east-doctrine/

https://en.interaffairs.ru/article/ir-theory-and-the-new-middle-east/

@Ashvazdanghe Those articles do not refer to a new “Sykes-Picot,” but rather to its opposite: an attempt to mould an order that favours U.S. material interests. On Iran, energy security, and trade, the last thing the U.S. (or Israel) needs is more instability or disunity. If anything, attempts to informally partition Syria (2017–24) were more a temporary means to press Assad until a pro-U.S. regime assumed power and marginalised Iran. Otherwise neither the U.S. nor Israel likely sees much use in redrawing borders further, given that doing so would ultimately disrupt ties with key partners such as the GCC and/or Turkey.

A Kurdish or Druze quasi-state in Syria threatens the Arabs—even U.S.-friendly ones—and Turks as much as it does the Iranians. (Incidentally, Trump is on the best of terms with Erdoğan, whose regime seems to be firmly established.) Any effort to fragment the region would disrupt foreign investment and energy supplies, so Trump’s strategy, as outlined above, inherently enshrines a focus on stability. So the U.S. is likely to focus on stabilising Syria and its non-Iranian neighbours under the aegis of the Sunni–Zionist bloc. Ensuring the solidification of this bloc, in fact, is in line with longstanding U.S. policy; Trump is hardly being original here.

Do you really think that Netanyahu, or any Israeli elite, has a material stake in overthrowing the KSA, the UAE, or Azerbaijan, for instance? “Balkanization of whole of region” would inevitably include the GCC. Even AKP-led Turkey has been quite supportive of Israel behind the scenes. Moreover, breaking up the region, as mentioned, would potentially disrupt any grand anti-Iran coalition or body, including a central regional power. To achieve its aims the U.S. needs to unite the MENA both internally and internationally. If anti-Iran groups fight one another, then the U.S. ends up defeating itself. The U.S. hardly needs a Druze–Kurdish–Salafi bloodbath in Syria right now.

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I think you're both right, but on different timescales.

Trump's major agenda in his first term was to create an "Arab NATO" that was made up of GCC states, Jordan, Egypt, and Morocco. Now you can add Syria to that equation. I believe this is still on the table, but tied to a 2 state solution, but this condition can be skipped if let's say Iran closes the strait of Hormuz and a coalition is formed to reopen the strait.

The long term plan in the Middle East is likely balkanization where Israel rules supreme.

I think if we see an Arab coalition form in the coming years, we can then expect a 3 way clash Arabs vs Turks vs Iranians. Sort of a war of attrition where the super powers don't allow anyone to win until the entire Middle east becomes weak. Basically what happened in Syria since 2011.

Was Syria a mini experiment before the big conflict? 

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12 hours ago, Northwest said:

Do you really think that Netanyahu, or any Israeli elite, has a material stake in overthrowing the KSA, the UAE, or Azerbaijan, for instance?

Hi history has shown that they betray to their allies too easily which their current coalition is ue to common goal of enmity with Iran which zionist Israel won't tolerate so called allies after Balkanization of Iran because it's fundamental doctrine is about expanding it's territory based on fom river to sea which they won't tolerate any opposition even a mini opposition which zionist Israel needs "Druze–Kurdish–Salafi bloodbath in Syria right now." which Trump as most loyal servant of zionists  can't oppose it which Trump  just wants to do damage control under guise of shaking stability for USA's rivalry with China ; which Turkey just looks for it's benefit as a traitor which justification of if I don't do it so then others will do it for their benefit. 

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8 hours ago, RiseOrDie said:

I think if we see an Arab coalition form in the coming years, we can then expect a 3 way clash Arabs vs Turks vs Iranians. Sort of a war of attrition where the super powers don't allow anyone to win until the entire Middle east becomes weak. Basically what happened in Syria since 2011.

Was Syria a mini experiment before the big conflict? 

@RiseOrDie Ultimately I think that Arab–Turk cleavage might be overestimated, given that Turkey has long been dependent on GCC investment, whether via Riyadh or Doha or both. Erdoğan’s regime could never have survived friction with Europe, much less the U.S., if not for all the Saudi and Qatari finance. Moreover, if anything, GCC–Turkey links seem stronger than ever. For instance, Trump’s Saudi-brokered move to remove sanctions on Syria apparently received Turkey’s blessing. There are also signs that Turkey may consent to Syria’s joining the Saudi-led Abraham Accords. Political theatre notwithstanding, Turkey is very much tied to the Arab wing of the Sunni–Zionist bloc; after all, the whole regime-change operation in Syria was a joint Turkish–Arab endeavour vs. the Iranian-led “Resistance Axis.” (Of course Erdoğan has always wanted closer economic relations with both the GCC and Israel, but has had to feign opposition at times.)

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8 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Hi history has shown that they betray to their allies too easily which their current coalition is ue to common goal of enmity with Iran which zionist Israel won't tolerate so called allies after Balkanization of Iran because it's fundamental doctrine is about expanding it's territory based on fom river to sea which they won't tolerate any opposition even a mini opposition which zionist Israel needs "Druze–Kurdish–Salafi bloodbath in Syria right now." which Trump as most loyal servant of zionists  can't oppose it which Trump just wants to do damage control under guise of shaking stability for USA's rivalry with China ; which Turkey just looks for it's benefit as a traitor which justification of if I don't do it so then others will do it for their benefit. 

@Ashvazdanghe ^ Maybe Israel will turn on its Arab clients later, but if it wants to defeat—and break up—Iran first, it needs a united front under Western patronage, so it must unite all anti-Iran forces in Syria and regionally. Resuming the Syrian civil war at the moment would not be in Israel’s interest, as it would disrupt the formation of an anti-Iran coalition there, involving Salafi, Druze, and Kurdish factions. If any of these forces start fighting one another, then the formation of an anti-Iran military force (and political base) becomes next to impossible. (To counter Iran the collective West also needs Pakistan, but that is another matter.) The Israeli leadership may be aggressive, but it is not stupid. If anything, a Syrian bloodbath at this time might allow Iran or its allies to indirectly regain some leverage, by siding with one faction against another out of mutual self-preservation. For the record, I do not think that any of the anti-Iran parties wants internecine conflict in Syria before Iran is carved up; a renewed war there would upset their shared anti-Iran agenda.

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On 12/18/2024 at 7:27 PM, RiseOrDie said:

My undertanding is similar but differs on certain details.

I personally think the orthodox christians (so Russia too) will for the majority become Muslims under the guidance of Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام) and Isa (عليه السلام).

So who will break the truce? 

The Catholics and Zionist Jews.

The joint enemy they will fight could possibily be a non-Abrahamic foe (athiest, hindu, other?)

But even then, I believe the clash might be partially related to Jerusalem and the Jewish 3rd temple too. There is a possibility that Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام) and Isa (عليه السلام) will allow the Jews to rebuild the 3rd temple as 1 of the conditions for the truce (this also fullfills jewish prophecy about Moshiach) but even after fulfillment of this prophecy most Jews will continue awaiting the Dajjal, and continue their fitna on earth leading to the collapse of the truce (referred to as abolition of desolation in christian text). Of course when looking at Christian text, always be aware that it has been modified over the decades to paint Imam Mahdi and Isa as bad, and paint Dajjal as the real jesus.

Asalam Alaykam Brother 

Informative posts. Who do you think is the sufyani? 

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On 5/21/2025 at 3:04 AM, RiseOrDie said:

I agree with you. 

Regarding the news about the heavy weapons, this was denied by SDF. Also the only noise about it was coming from pro-HTS and some radical pro-Erdogan accounts.

For now the Trump/Netanyahu strategy is employing soft power and hard power to achieve joint goals. I think their current disagreement is fake, Netanyahu uses hard power like threats, bombing, sabotage meanwhile Trump comes in with negotiations, deals, and sanctions relief. 

They're doing in Gaza, they did it against Joulani, and they're trying it against Iran. This way they squeeze the best deal for Israel. It’s all in Trumps book 'Art of the deal'. For example he used lawyers or politcians to pressure and bully potential rivals, then he comes in with a very 'bad deal' that he refers to as a great deal.


Asalam Alaykam, 

Ahadith point towards Iran being invaded and controlled by Zionists since the anti christ is going to rise with 70,000 people of Jewish faith (Zionists) from Isfahan. Anti Christ can only rise with 70,000 people from Isfahan in Iran unless Iran has been taken over by Zionists. 

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One more point to add is that to suggest somebody is going to invade a country of 80 million population with 70,000 people is naive and wishful thinking. There’s two possibilities to the tradition either it’s totally fabricated or is referring to a time when the world would have been plundered into total chaos, etc 

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On 6/9/2025 at 4:43 PM, StarWalker-313 said:

One more point to add is that to suggest somebody is going to invade a country of 80 million population with 70,000 people is naive and wishful thinking. There’s two possibilities to the tradition either it’s totally fabricated or is referring to a time when the world would have been plundered into total chaos, etc 

Salam

The dajjal appears at the end of the battle of Armageddon, also known as the Malhama Al Kubra. So you can imagine that it will be a completely different world than the one we have today, likely without any national borders due to the many wars and disasters that will shuffle people. The 70,000 jews in Isfahan might be migrants or refugees who settle there and Allah knows best

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On 6/9/2025 at 10:31 PM, StarWalker-313 said:

Asalam Alaykam Brother 

Informative posts. Who do you think is the sufyani? 

We don't know yet brother, there are still many signs yet to occur. Even once the Sufyani rises it will be difficult to distinguish him until towards the 2nd half of his reign, more specifically when his army gets swallowed up in the earth in the desert between Mecca and Madina. I think that will be the sign that will seal the deal as to who he is.

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10 hours ago, RiseOrDie said:

Salam

The dajjal appears at the end of the battle of Armageddon, also known as the Malhama Al Kubra. So you can imagine that it will be a completely different world than the one we have today, likely without any national borders due to the many wars and disasters that will shuffle people. The 70,000 jews in Isfahan might be migrants or refugees who settle there and Allah knows best

Salam respectfully this is a fabricated hadith by cursed Umayyads which has been fabricated by them due to uprising of Jews of Isfahan in their time which it has been fabricated for justifying attack to Isfahan by cursed umayyads .

The Uprising of the Abū ‘Īsā Iṣfahānī the Umayyad in 3rd/8th Century

 Jewish pretender to the title of the Messiah under the Umayyad ʿAbd al-Malik b. Marwān, or according to others under Marwān II. The most noteworthy of his doctrines was his acknowledgment of the validity—for the non-Jews—of Islam and Christianity. He was killed in a battle against the Muslims; the sect, called ʿĪsawiyya, survived into the 10th century A. D.

https://referenceworks.brill.com/display/entries/EIEO/SIM-0206.xml

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Abstract

In the early centuries, the land of Persia was a scene of clashes, riots, revolutions – great and small – consisting of various political, religious, and social motivations. In the meantime, maybe the least known of all is the uprising of Abū ‘Īsā Iṣfahānī, which, because he and his followers were Jewish and as it was a resurgence in a country with a Muslim population as well as due to the ambiguities and differences in reports concerning the nature and quality of this resurgence and its aftermaths, it befits to be more seriously examined. Abū ‘Īsā was a Jew residing in Isfahan and in fact was the first Iranian, who revolted against the Umayyad rule after gathering many partisans in the second half of the second century A.H. with an optimal utilization of the intrigued atmosphere of that era and with new religious – and sometimes Christian – doctrines. According to some reports, he was defeated and suppressed, and according to others, he disappeared and hid in a cave, and yet according to some other reports, he took to the desert to convey God’s message and his own mission to Banū Mūsā, who lived on the other side of the Mermel River. His revolt – which was an important apocalyptic movement in the Jewish history
– was not left idle, as his companions, called ‘Īsawiyya or Iṣfahāniyya, followed his way both in theory and practic

https://jhistory.um.ac.ir/article_25515.html?lang=en

https://www.magiran.com/paper/1233701/the-uprising-of-the-ab-isa-isfahani-the-umayyad-in-3rd-8th-century?lang=en

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/قیام-ابوعیسی-اصفهانی-علیه-امویان-در-سدۀ-دوم-هجری-حسینی-فاطمه/0bea78a640df53689d12670743128a17ad73a521

the-jews-and-the-historical-background-of-their-residence-in-esfahan

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https://www.irantour.tours/iran-cities/esfahan/esfahan-tourism/the-jews-and-the-historical-background-of-their-residence-in-esfahan.html

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10 hours ago, RiseOrDie said:

We don't know yet brother, there are still many signs yet to occur. Even once the Sufyani rises it will be difficult to distinguish him until towards the 2nd half of his reign, more specifically when his army gets swallowed up in the earth in the desert between Mecca and Madina. I think that will be the sign that will seal the deal as to who he is.

Khasf al-Bayda': The Collapse of al-Sufyani

According to hadiths from the Prophet (s), one sign of the Reappearance of al-Mahdi (a) is the uprising of an army from Syria who will be devoured by the Earth in an area called "Bayda'". This came to be known in sources of hadiths as "al-Khasf al-Bayda'".[15]

According to another hadith, Imam Ali (a) points to the Qur'an 34:51, [16] suggesting that al-Sufyani will rule Syria for nine months and then when he leads his army towards Medina, God takes him inside the Earth in Bayda'.[17]

https://en.wikishia.net/view/Uprising_of_al-Sufyani

It's highly possible that jordanian army will have great rule as main body of army of Sufyani which in all "True promise" operation agaisnt zionist Israel army of jordan has great & active rule in intercepting Iranian miisles which have been fired toward zionist Israel ; which it made clear the strong bond between  government of Jordan & zionist Israel in all aspects ; which king of  Jordan by high probability will has great rule in forming of Sufyani's army as his greatest commander. 

The King of Jordan From Another view _ Part 2

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“In Kamaluddin with a weak document, Kufi was quoted by Abdullah bin Mansour, who said:

I asked Aba Abdullah (عليه السلام) about the name of Sufyani; they said: What do you do with his name? When the treasures of the five regions of Damascus (Damascus, Homs, Palestine, Jordan and Ginserina) are found, then wait for the emergence of Imam Mahdi.

I asked if he would reign for 9 months? He said: No, 8 months rule, not one day more.

https://alvadossadegh.com/en/the-king-of-jordan-from-another-view-_-part-2/

 

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9 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam respectfully this is a fabricated hadith by cursed Umayyads which has been fabricated by them due to uprising of Jews of Isfahan in their time which it has been fabricated for justifying attack to Isfahan by cursed umayyads .

The Uprising of the Abū ‘Īsā Iṣfahānī the Umayyad in 3rd/8th Century

 Jewish pretender to the title of the Messiah under the Umayyad ʿAbd al-Malik b. Marwān, or according to others under Marwān II. The most noteworthy of his doctrines was his acknowledgment of the validity—for the non-Jews—of Islam and Christianity. He was killed in a battle against the Muslims; the sect, called ʿĪsawiyya, survived into the 10th century A. D.

https://referenceworks.brill.com/display/entries/EIEO/SIM-0206.xml

https://jhistory.um.ac.ir/article_25515.html?lang=en

https://www.magiran.com/paper/1233701/the-uprising-of-the-ab-isa-isfahani-the-umayyad-in-3rd-8th-century?lang=en

https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/قیام-ابوعیسی-اصفهانی-علیه-امویان-در-سدۀ-دوم-هجری-حسینی-فاطمه/0bea78a640df53689d12670743128a17ad73a521

the-jews-and-the-historical-background-of-their-residence-in-esfahan

https://www.irantour.tours/iran-cities/esfahan/esfahan-tourism/the-jews-and-the-historical-background-of-their-residence-in-esfahan.html

I don't know to be honest, what you shared makes sense.

But I was told years ago by a Jew that they visit Isfahan for pilgrimage regulary. They must have holy sites there or something.

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14 hours ago, RiseOrDie said:

But I was told years ago by a Jew that they visit Isfahan for pilgrimage regulary. They must have holy sites there or something.

Salam visiting Isfahan by jews is not strange because it's said that two jewish prophets Youshe” (عليه السلام)and “Shoaya”(as) have been buried in Takht-e Foulad Cemetery , Isfahan which a famous jewish person in recent years who has visited it has been "Sean stone" who has claimed that he has had a vision over grave of prophet Youshe” (عليه السلام) so then he has converted to Shia Islam after having that vision n Takht-e Foulad Cemetery which ha has changed his name to "Sean Ali stone".

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Mosleh Aldin Mahdavi, the scholar, and Isfahanologist wrote:

 

“centuries before Islam, when Bakht Alnasr was transplanted Jewish people from Palestine and harassed them, the Cyrus, the Achaemenian king of Iran, saved Jewish from the enslavement of Babel and accepted them in Iran and settled some of them in Isfahan. Two of their prophets and religious leaders named “Youshe” and “Shoaya” were lived in Isfahan and dead and were buried there.”

https://isfahanmag.com/takhte-foulad-cemetery-isfahan

https://mashahirgasht.com/portfolio/takht-e-foulad-cemetery/

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Stone converted to Islam at the office of Shia cleric Ayatollah Mohammad Nasseri Dowlatabadi in the city of Isfahan last week.

https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/396821/Iranian-festival-honors-Sean-Ali-Stone

https://www.seanstone.info/about

https://www.theguardian.com/world/shortcuts/2012/feb/15/sean-stone-muslim-religion-hollywood

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Stone?ysclid=mezf3f1p8b713533193

Sean Ali Stone My Journey to Shia Islam UMAA Convention

My Journey to Islam – Sean Ali Stone

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Sean Ali Stone discusses his journey to Islam. Sean Ali Stone is renowned film maker and son of internationally acclaimed director Oliver Stone.

https://al-mostabserin.com/english/4963

https://rahyafteha.ir/en/3705/sean-ali-stone-discusses-journey-islam/

 

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On 4/7/2025 at 6:06 AM, Diaz said:

I agree, it’s only a big amount of Syrian, Palestinian and Jordanian support this terrorist. Majority of Sunnis do not. 

Yes brother, and alongwith them, the Taliban too who have on many occasions officially made evident their support for him and they congratulated him after the Asad regime fell; most Wahhabis like him.

Irrespective of who's going to be the Sufyānī, it's not necessary that from the very beginning the Sufyānī gains massive Sunni support across the world. It's important to note that what exactly will get the Sufyānī a global massive Sunni support and when. Large scale mobilizations (possibly from multiple countries) for the Sufyānī will take place only after the Yamānī would have liberated Mecca and Medina, and that's when he'll unleash them on the Shia in Ḥijāz.

Being an ex-Sunni I can tell you that before 2019 we were totally on the side of takfiris during the Syrian civil war. When it comes to shia-sunni conflict most Sunnis don't think about right or wrong before backing the sunni side (even if Wahhābī takfiri) in the conflict. And Shia coming to power in Iraq after Saddam's fall was just too much for most Sunnis; myself once being that way, I'm well aware of the emotional games that are played there, and thus, just the thought of how the Sunni world will react to the Shia takeover of Mecca and Medina spooks me. No surprise why that will be followed by the greatest ever massacre of the Shia at the hands of the Sufyānī's supporters.

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On 1/6/2025 at 11:01 AM, Eddie Mecca said:

I visited an online Salafi community platform a while back...and some of the contributors were attempting to make the case that Al Sufyani will be a righteous figure

Salam. Brother can you please provide me with that platform's link or name or screenshot of this discussion?

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Have the hts terror group taken over deir ez zour? Which is qarqisiya, there was supposed to be an apocalyptic battle to take place there , but SDF was ran over by HTS, what happened here?

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Intense situation in northeast Syria, Jolani and tribal forces are freeing Isis members

There is also plenty of footage showing war crimes which will not be shared

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, RiseOrDie said:

Intense situation in northeast Syria, Jolani and tribal forces are freeing Isis members

There is also plenty of footage showing war crimes which will not be shared

 

 

 

The problem is that they could let these Isis fighters enter either Iraq or Iran agein. 

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22 hours ago, Guest Faizan said:

Have the hts terror group taken over deir ez zour? Which is qarqisiya, there was supposed to be an apocalyptic battle to take place there , but SDF was ran over by HTS, what happened here?

Yes they took it through the tribes that live there

Scholars speak of several qarqisiya battles, but the famous apocalyptic one that most hadiths refer to will occur during the Sufyani era and he will partake in it.

The Sufyani isn't here, and according to tradition he appears after an earthquake in Al-Sham. Hadiths also speak about 2/3 of the world population perishing too 

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59 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

The problem is that they could let these Isis fighters enter either Iraq or Iran agein. 

Isis is minor imo, they were a rogue group that went off script and the US punished them with the coalition, much like what they did to Saddam when he went rogue and they created a coalition to make an example.

The bigger issue is there might be a hidden agenda to move Kurdish militants from Syria to Iraqi Kurdistan and then to Iran.

A lot of the Kurdish militants in Syria are foreign (from Turkey, Iraq, and Iran), what US, Turkey and Jolani are pushing for is to force them out and then merge the local Syrian kurds with the internal security forces. Weirdly enough Barzani was recently involved in the SDF-Jolani negotiations.

These are just my thoughts if Iran is the next Hotzone. In an ideal scenario for Iran there is no deal between Joulani and SDF where portion of the PKK or SDF are moved to Iraq. 

 

 

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