Has the Axis of resistance failed

[Ibn Tayyar]

6 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

@Ibn Tayyar, you're suggesting that Tehran is promoting anti-Shi'i sentiment in Afghanistan by promoting the Taliban against the imperialists...Tehran adopted a completely anti-Taliban posture throughout the 90's...the old or original Taliban...then the new Taliban emerged in 2021 and claimed new aims and noble objectives and a revitalized outlook...alright...Tehran's approach was an extremely cautious one...Tehran didn't start singing "We Are The World" with the Deobandis as you suggested...Tehran congratulated them on their victory...a victory against a common foe/enemy (Tehran had long demanded withdrawal of imperialist forces from the region)...Taliban reintroduced Islamic law...Taliban authorities banned and outlawed poppy seed cultivation as their predecessors had done...okay...two positive steps in the right direction...Tehran's motives are largely driven by regional geopolitics ...Central Asian, South Asian and Western Asian international affairs...Tehran is in-between three worlds...Iran overlaps all three regions simultaneously...it's at the crossroads of all three...also, Tehran's inspiration was steered (to a large extent) by border and security-driven agendas and concerns...if Tehran can begin influencing Taliban behavior in a certain direction...then allies China and Moscow will be elated and extacic and everyone benefits...BRICS nations will benefit...New Silk Road Initiative benefits...also, Tehran can capitalize on ISIS versus Taliban tensions...after the Taliban takeover...Taliban began a purging movement of ISIS operatives and opponents...Salafi mosques and Saudi-sponsored madressas and seminaries were all shut down...mountainous people are generally rougher and more self-reliant and less trusting of outsiders...they're rougher around the edges compared to their cosmopolitan counterparts...it's similar in the hilly terrain of the Appalachian Mountains region and elsewhere...even in the rural regions and mountainous areas of southern Lebanon...the people there are tougher...not all manifestations of Afghan backwardness can be blamed on Sunnism...Spartan rural existence toughens people and effects their perspectives on life and reality and existence...a softening is sometimes needed...many times this can be cured through proper education and social refinement...also, an injection of money can sometimes help

Thank you for your insight brother, I believe I understand where you are coming from, but I have my own objections.

While you are focusing on the geopolitical results of Taliban rule - which may favour Iran - I am speaking more about the suffering the average Shi'i is going through in Afghanistan when it comes to Taliban oppression.

You don't even need to look further than what Iranian media is itself reporting on the plight of the Shi'a there.

I understand your sentiment in that you want to look at the "bigger picture", but I cannot ignore the suffering of my brothers & sisters. 

[realizm]

17 hours ago, Ibn Tayyar said:

What I mean by prioritising ourselves is turning towards our neglected Shi'a communities in places such as Afghanistan and Pakistan. They are oppressed and killed on a daily basis.

Translating roughly, you would IRI become the SRI Shia Republic of Iran.

Fair enough. I respect this point of view.

17 hours ago, Ibn Tayyar said:

Iran opened an Office for the Taliban in Tehran and completely normalised these nawasib ghouls as legitimate actors

Maybe part of their diplomatic efforts. You would not blame them for talking with KSA, would you ? They are nawasib as well.

You just cannot blame Iran for every diplomatic ouverture. Maybe talks with hardline salafists were a step taken to anticipate the critical events from last week in Syria.

17 hours ago, Ibn Tayyar said:

Your Shi'i brother is your real ally. He won't stab you in the back when you need him.

Brother, Shi`is proved to be as treacherous as Sunnis. I might agree that oppressed Shi`is may turn to be more loyal, but please let's not be blinded and act like Ahl Kufa is just a 1400 year old Iraqi thing. Plus, you might agree on the fact that the recent AOR was nothing more than a Shi`i crescent. 

[Ibn Tayyar]

51 minutes ago, realizm said:

Translating roughly, you would IRI become the SRI Shia Republic of Iran.

Fair enough. I respect this point of view.

wa alaykum al salam

There's no shame in that. It is a Shi'i country where the Leader & President have to be Shi'i (according to the Constitution),  where the country is Shi'i majority, where it is ruled in accordance with Shi'i Law. When does it stop being Shi'i? Foreign policy? 

51 minutes ago, realizm said:

Maybe part of their diplomatic efforts. You would not blame them for talking with KSA, would you ? They are nawasib as well.

You just cannot blame Iran for every diplomatic ouverture. Maybe talks with hardline salafists were a step taken to anticipate the critical events from last week in Syria.

Unfortunately Iran did more than just "talk" to the Taliban. It actually supported them in certain ways. 

51 minutes ago, realizm said:

Brother, Shi`is proved to be as treacherous as Sunnis. I might agree that oppressed Shi`is may turn to be more loyal, but please let's not be blinded and act like Ahl Kufa is just a 1400 year old Iraqi thing. Plus, you might agree on the fact that the recent AOR was nothing more than a Shi`i crescent. 

When Shi'a betray eachother, it is because the dunya has come between them. When the Sunnis betray the Shi'a, it is because of their madhab. Otherwise, how do you explain Hamas' betrayal when it came to Syria? Was it not inter-madhabi solidarity with the Syrian Revolution? 

Like you said, the Axis was mostly a Shi'i thing. And there is a reason for that. Let us stop deluding ourselves into not thinking a big chunk of Sunnis absolutely despise us and want nothing to do with us. 

Edited December 8, 2024 by Ibn Tayyar

[AbdusSibtayn]

25 minutes ago, Ibn Tayyar said:

a big chunk of Sunnis absolutely despise us and want nothing to do with us. 

The inconvenient truth that many try to avoid. 

[guest 2025]

On 12/7/2024 at 7:54 AM, Jaabir said:

It's absolute insanity that something so basic needs to be explained to these people. There is no sane country on Earth who sacrifices the well-being of 90 million of there own nationals for the plight of a 4-5 million people elsewhere. Yet IRI has condemned the lives and image of all Shi'as around the world. Instead of being a protector of Shi'as it became the source of destruction for the Shi'as.

Some fools here think calling for focusing on the protection of Shi'as is being sectarian or being a Shirazi. Absolute insanity the amount of brain rot IRI has made some of these peoples' minds

I wonder what you did for your soul to become corrupted enough for Allah to put a seal on your senses which prevents you from seeing the obvious. I'd suggest you snap out of it, or you will join the people who reject Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام).

[realizm]

4 hours ago, Ibn Tayyar said:

Otherwise, how do you explain Hamas' betrayal when it came to Syria?

And how do you explain all Sunni countries betrayal of Palestinian when it came to Palestine ? Portraying the "Muslim" world as two Sunni and Shi`i entities is as monolithic of a thought as saying all Americans are united.

[Sabrejet]

1 hour ago, guest 2025 said:

I wonder what you did for your soul to become corrupted enough for Allah to put a seal on your senses which prevents you from seeing the obvious. I'd suggest you snap out of it, or you will join the people who reject Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام).

And what exactly is the obvious? Keep giving our lives and resources for people who prefer Zionists over "the Rafida"?

[laithAlIRAQI]

1 hour ago, Sabrejet said:

And what exactly is the obvious? Keep giving our lives and resources for people who prefer Zionists over "the Rafida"?

let the [Edited Out]s rot, they deserve nothing, backstabbing traitors 

[Abu_Zahra]

The bravado always comes from quarters who don't do anything for anyone, regardless of whether they're Shia or Sunni. 

[islamicmusic]

On 12/7/2024 at 6:18 AM, HusseinA9182 said:

Bro they killed every single top official in hezebollah. 

this is considered a victory in any war. Imagine Biden and his whole cabinet got killed. 

I thought the school of Ahlulbayt thinks of martyrdom as victory, one of the two happy "ending". And history taught us that the more our leaders are killed, the more we grow in number and quality. So those who got martyred in the cause of Islam has actually won. Hezbollah gained a lot. Hamas gained a lot. Houthis gained a lot. Iran gained a lot.

I pity all other shia muslims who are 4 times in number that do nothing for the oppressed, and 15 times in number the sunnis who do nothing for Palestine etc.

And believe me, people see the truth. Many people saw it this year. Many more will do, when the so called revolutinaries enter into pact with Israel more openly.

Edited December 8, 2024 by islamicmusic

[Lion of Shia]

4 hours ago, islamicmusic said:

I thought the school of Ahlulbayt thinks of martyrdom as victory, one of the two happy "ending". And history taught us that the more our leaders are killed, the more we grow in number and quality. So those who got martyred in the cause of Islam has actually won. Hezbollah gained a lot. Hamas gained a lot. Houthis gained a lot. Iran gained a lot.

I pity all other shia muslims who are 4 times in number that do nothing for the oppressed, and 15 times in number the sunnis who do nothing for Palestine etc.

And believe me, people see the truth. Many people saw it this year. Many more will do, when the so called revolutinaries enter into pact with Israel more openly.

could an individual be counted as opressed like if thier bullied?

[guest 2025]

8 hours ago, Sabrejet said:

And what exactly is the obvious? Keep giving our lives and resources for people who prefer Zionists over "the Rafida"?

The same person who passionately defended the LGBT doesn't think we should help Palestinians. You can't make this up.

 

7 hours ago, laithAlIRAQI said:

let the [Edited Out]s rot, they deserve nothing, backstabbing traitors 

The first thing Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام) will do is free Palestine with Nabi Isa (عليه السلام).

[guest 2025]

No, the Axis did not fail. We Shia have been saying Syria will fall and Suffyani l.a will take over for 1000+ years now. 

Is the Axis supposed to overcome Allah's decrees now? 

 

And let me tell you some more: Yemen will mobilize (Yamani) and Iran will mobilize(Khorasani), and they will confront the Suffyani. But it will be a stalemate. I guess people will be disheartened or blame Iran for not managing to beat the new evil that will soon rise out of Syria? Even though Imams said that would happen 1000 years ago?

 

Allahu Akbar. I really am warning you guys because any weakness in our faith will be exploited by the Dajjal. And when Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام) comes you may say "That's not him." We already know that Imam Mahdi (عليه السلام) is going to be rejected by A LOT of Shias, so we'd better check ourselves and not complacently assume we'd totally jump in his arms and serve him. And if you're saying strange and weak things then that is a bad sign and you should be concerned. 

 

We Shias have never stumbled tripped or lost control for a single second since the death of the Prophet (عليه السلام). 

[Eddie Mecca]

13 hours ago, Sabrejet said:

And what exactly is the obvious? Keep giving our lives and resources for people who prefer Zionists over "the Rafida"?

And you and your ilk (i.e. fellow Shirazis) here (ShiaChat) prefer the imperialists and the Zionists over the Sunnis...so what's the difference??...you and the Takfiris are like two sides of the same coin...you embody everything wrong with MENA culture...you behave like a disgruntled child fuming at the neighborhood bully who stole his/her lunch money...you engage in fruitless sectarian discourse/discussion...you're bitter, sour, racist individuals who grovel for crumbs from your European slave masters...your criticisms of IRI are plagiarized word for word from the Zionist and Wahhabi play book...it's like listening to Fox News or Bill Maher

Edited December 9, 2024 by Eddie Mecca

[Eddie Mecca]

10 hours ago, islamicmusic said:

And believe me, people see the truth

Leftists are putting posters of Nasrallah on their walls next to Che Guevara now

19 hours ago, Ibn Tayyar said:

Unfortunately Iran did more than just "talk" to the Taliban. It actually supported them in certain ways. 

Buddy, the Taliban are an impenetrable, immovable entity...they defeated the Soviets in 1989 and they're partially responsible for the collapse of communism...they beat the Americans in 2021 and your capitalist deities hightailed it out of Kandahar like sissies...in the 90's I read an article in National Geographic magazine that said the Afghans are among the toughest people on the planet...they're unbeatable...THEY DEFEATED TWO SUPERPOWERS!!!...perhaps the best way to influence their behavior is to befriend them

Edited December 9, 2024 by Eddie Mecca

[mahmood8726]

12 minutes ago, Eddie Mecca said:

Leftists are putting posters of Nasrallah on their walls next to Che Guevara now

Buddy, the Taliban are an impenetrable, immovable entity...they defeated the Soviets in 1989 and they're partially responsible for the collapse of communism...they beat the Americans in 2021 and your capitalist deities hightailed it out of Kandahar like sissies...in the 90's I read an article in National Geographic magazine that said the Afghans are among the toughest people on the planet...they're unbeatable...THEY DEFEATED TWO SUPERPOWERS!!!...perhaps the best way to influence their behavior is to befriend them

NO, we need to invade Afghanistan again for the 10th time and hope we don't join the grave of empires and waste our resources away in a war of attrition against an army that refuses to die

[Eddie Mecca]

19 hours ago, Ibn Tayyar said:

There's no shame in that. It is a Shi'i country where the Leader & President have to be Shi'i (according to the Constitution),  where the country is Shi'i majority, where it is ruled in accordance with Shi'i Law. When does it stop being Shi'i? Foreign policy? 

So you're criticizing the Resistance Nexus for rescuing Yazidis, Chaldeans etc. from Takfiri clutches in Iraq? They should've let them die because those communities are non-Shi'i? The supremacist mentality being displayed here mirrors that of the Yahud and the Wahhabis

[Eddie Mecca]

20 hours ago, realizm said:

SRI Shia Republic of Iran.

No, they want SRI = Shirazi Republic of Iran = Israel's cowardly groveling lapdog 

21 hours ago, realizm said:

Shi`is proved to be as treacherous as Sunnis

We're in a better position / condition then our Sunni counterparts but we're not an infallible community...no community is immaculate...examples of treacherous Shi'is 1.) They're saying Bashar took a GCC bribe...we'll wait a few days and see whether or not this is true...2.) Mohammad Reza Pahlavi 3.) Ali Abdullah Saleh 4.) All the Shi'i collaborators w/ Israel in south Lebanon 4.) Mehdi Hasan 5.) Imam Mohammad Tawhidi 6.) Yasir Habib 7.) Ammar Nakshawani 8.) All the "Ulema of the Court" who stood against Imam Khomeini and profited from being on the Shah's payroll 

[guest 2025]

British Shias strategy:

1. Sit down in a corner in your bedroom and curse Sahaba on Facebook live for 12 hours each day

2. WHATEVER YOU DO, DO NOT HELP PALESTINE!!! THEY ARE SUE-KNEE!!

3. Accept donations from NOT THE UK GOVERNMENT

4. Don't respond to any political situation whatsoever

5. Do nothing 

6. Do nothing at all

7. Seethe at Khamenei for being better

8. Curse Sahaba once more

9. ???

10. The global economy is now stable, world hunger is over, all wars over. Sunnis convert to Shia Islam en mass. Everything is perfect and the world has been saved

 

[Jaabir]

As mentioned in my previous post, my own personal Axis of Resistance won't fail as other "Axis of Resistances" have failed.

What I will say is that these certain group of individuals have trapped themselves in an echo chamber. They will congratulate one another using every mental gymnastics known to man. They'll share tales of how victorious they were in every battle, pull stats of 1300 Zionists eliminated from their backsides, give epic speeches like "if the Zionists make even the slightest of mistakes, we will raze Tel Aviv and Haifa to the ground". People who actually see past the smoke and mirrors see how much the entire world laughs at these sorts of takes.

Shi'as collectively were in an abysmal state before 1979, which gave this new (supposedly) Shi'a government the opportunity to deceive the Shi'a masses simply because of the turbans on their head. In particular, the pure souls of South Lebanon were so mistreated before 1979 that when they actually saw a hand reaching out to help them, they couldn't believe it to be true. It's the nature of an honourable Shi'i to be loyal to a just cause. Only these people were flat out deceived in believing freeing al-Quds was their war. The actual Lebanese inside Lebanon faced these horrendous trials because some misguided person of a suicidal ideology was convincing enough. The same leader who once famously said "fight against all dictators" (oops but not Assad, who clearly wins almost 100% of the Syrian vote for the last 50 years, he's our friend).

There are more Lebanese in Brazil alone than Lebanon itself. The Shi'a in Lebanon don't even number 2 million. Israel is 10 million. Yet these absolute jahils have imposed some sort of jihadist duty on the Lebanese Shi'a with their machine guns and Walmart rockets to fight a war against the 51st State of the U.S? The Shi'a lost 4000+ souls in Lebanon for what? Deceived into believing they had to start poking the wasp's nest on October 8, 2023? Who's life should be more cherished? A country of 10 million that lost a negligible number? Or the Lebanese Shi'a who lost 4000+?

May Allah punish them immensely for fooling Shi'i laymen into believing Imam Mehdi will make his first stop in al-Quds. May Allah destroy every inch of the tongue that began pushing this insanity. There are non-Shi'i mosques in this world that are good with the Shi'a, other mosques who don't care for the Shi'a, and some who actively despise the Shi'a. "Al-Quds" is of the latter. The Shi'i belief doesn't even recognize a bayt al-Maqdis on this planet. Imam Ali (عليه السلام) spoke of mosques built to oppose him. And you think his grandson will rush to free a this kind of mosque?

حدثنا ابي رضي الله عنه قال: حدثنا سعد بن عبد الله، عن محمد بن الحسين بن ابي الخطاب قال: حدثني صفوان بن يحيى، عمن ذكره، عن ابي عبد الله عليه السلام قال: ان أمير المؤمنين عليه السلام نهى عن الصلاة في خمسة مساجد بالكوفة: مسجد الاشعث بن قيس الكندي، ومسجد جرير بن عبد الله البجلي، ومسجد سماك بن مخرمة، ومسجد شبث بن ربعي ومسجد تيم، قال: وكان أمير المؤمنين عليه السلام اذا نظر إلى مسجدهم قال: هذه بقعة تيم، ومعناه إنهم قعدوا عنه لا يصلون معه عداوة له وبغضا. لعنهم الله

Imam Ali admonished against praying in five of the mosques in Kufa: the Mosque of Al-Ashas ibn Qays al-Kindi; the Mosque of Jarir ibn Abdullah al-Bajaly; the Mosque of Samak ibn Makhrama; the Mosque of Sheis ibn Robee and the Mosque of Tayyim. Whenever Ali passed by the Mosque of Tayyim, he said, ‘This is Tayyim’s site.’ His intention was that they built this mosque to gather there and oppose him. May God damn them.

All this being said, adios, SC.

[guest 2025]

1 hour ago, Jaabir said:

As mentioned in my previous post, my own personal Axis of Resistance won't fail as other "Axis of Resistances" have failed.

What I will say is that these certain group of individuals have trapped themselves in an echo chamber. They will congratulate one another using every mental gymnastics known to man. They'll share tales of how victorious they were in every battle, pull stats of 1300 Zionists eliminated from their backsides, give epic speeches like "if the Zionists make even the slightest of mistakes, we will raze Tel Aviv and Haifa to the ground". People who actually see past the smoke and mirrors see how much the entire world laughs at these sorts of takes.

Shi'as collectively were in an abysmal state before 1979, which gave this new (supposedly) Shi'a government the opportunity to deceive the Shi'a masses simply because of the turbans on their head. In particular, the pure souls of South Lebanon were so mistreated before 1979 that when they actually saw a hand reaching out to help them, they couldn't believe it to be true. It's the nature of an honourable Shi'i to be loyal to a just cause. Only these people were flat out deceived in believing freeing al-Quds was their war. The actual Lebanese inside Lebanon faced these horrendous trials because some misguided person of a suicidal ideology was convincing enough. The same leader who once famously said "fight against all dictators" (oops but not Assad, who clearly wins almost 100% of the Syrian vote for the last 50 years, he's our friend).

There are more Lebanese in Brazil alone than Lebanon itself. The Shi'a in Lebanon don't even number 2 million. Israel is 10 million. Yet these absolute jahils have imposed some sort of jihadist duty on the Lebanese Shi'a with their machine guns and Walmart rockets to fight a war against the 51st State of the U.S? The Shi'a lost 4000+ souls in Lebanon for what? Deceived into believing they had to start poking the wasp's nest on October 8, 2023? Who's life should be more cherished? A country of 10 million that lost a negligible number? Or the Lebanese Shi'a who lost 4000+?

May Allah punish them immensely for fooling Shi'i laymen into believing Imam Mehdi will make his first stop in al-Quds. May Allah destroy every inch of the tongue that began pushing this insanity. There are non-Shi'i mosques in this world that are good with the Shi'a, other mosques who don't care for the Shi'a, and some who actively despise the Shi'a. "Al-Quds" is of the latter. The Shi'i belief doesn't even recognize a bayt al-Maqdis on this planet. Imam Ali (عليه السلام) spoke of mosques built to oppose him. And you think his grandson will rush to free a this kind of mosque?

حدثنا ابي رضي الله عنه قال: حدثنا سعد بن عبد الله، عن محمد بن الحسين بن ابي الخطاب قال: حدثني صفوان بن يحيى، عمن ذكره، عن ابي عبد الله عليه السلام قال: ان أمير المؤمنين عليه السلام نهى عن الصلاة في خمسة مساجد بالكوفة: مسجد الاشعث بن قيس الكندي، ومسجد جرير بن عبد الله البجلي، ومسجد سماك بن مخرمة، ومسجد شبث بن ربعي ومسجد تيم، قال: وكان أمير المؤمنين عليه السلام اذا نظر إلى مسجدهم قال: هذه بقعة تيم، ومعناه إنهم قعدوا عنه لا يصلون معه عداوة له وبغضا. لعنهم الله

Imam Ali admonished against praying in five of the mosques in Kufa: the Mosque of Al-Ashas ibn Qays al-Kindi; the Mosque of Jarir ibn Abdullah al-Bajaly; the Mosque of Samak ibn Makhrama; the Mosque of Sheis ibn Robee and the Mosque of Tayyim. Whenever Ali passed by the Mosque of Tayyim, he said, ‘This is Tayyim’s site.’ His intention was that they built this mosque to gather there and oppose him. May God damn them.

All this being said, adios, SC.

You only have enmity towards the noble mujahideen of Imam Hussain because you fell into some kind of evil. Maybe it was a sin, maybe you let a personal flaw like hate or arrogance consume you.

Either way, you served me a valuable lesson. Allah has taught me through you that if I don't check the evil within me, if I let it consume me, I will end up like you. A man can be guided in the morning, and led astray by night. I should not be complacent.

[Abu Hadi]

One point I agree with is that we shouldn't exaggerate and we shouldn't take positions just to be in opposition to another side. This is something I see happening amoung AOR supporters. I think the AOR got a 'reality check' with the pager incident, the assassination of Sayyid Nasrallah(رضي الله عنه), and now the coup in Syria. 

The skeleton of the organization is still there, even though there might be some deep flesh wounds. The Shia in Lebanon before 1979 were the underclass in Lebanon, i.e. the second class citizens. The third class citizens were the Palestinian refugees from the Nakba and 1967. The Downtown Beirut Sunnis and the Jounei Christians were used to being on top and ruling over everyone else. Then the civil war happened and things changed slightly. Then rise of the IRI and Hezb and things changed more. Some Shia took these events to mean that they were now the upper class and that they could rule over the Sunnis and Christians, who have always been part of Lebanon and probably always will be. I don't think this has anything to do with Hezb leadership and IRI leadership but some of the followers started to adopt this attitude. This was where they went astray. 

If Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) loves you and you start to adopt an arrogant attitude, Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) will send some event or events which will give you a 'slap in the face' or a 'punch in the gut' just to correct this wrong behaviors. I believe that is the point of these events. Victory after victory for the AOR started to make some develop a wrong attitude. We are now experiencing the 'punch in the gut'. I think this will be overcome and more forward progress will be made, as I said in my other post. 

[Abu Nur]

33 minutes ago, Abu Hadi said:

If Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) loves you and you start to adopt an arrogant attitude, Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) will send some event or events which will give you a 'slap in the face' or a 'punch in the gut' just to correct this wrong behaviors. I believe that is the point of these events. Victory after victory for the AOR started to make so

I really believe it is the opposite. Assad started to incline to gulf and they influenced him to go away from Iran that cause him to make wrong decisions. And then the syria event happened. I believe the one who are going to get punished are all these sunnis who sided with Erdogan, Us and Israel.

[Ibn Tayyar]

23 hours ago, realizm said:

And how do you explain all Sunni countries betrayal of Palestinian when it came to Palestine ? Portraying the "Muslim" world as two Sunni and Shi`i entities is as monolithic of a thought as saying all Americans are united.

It is the exact same analogy my brother, but in reverse.

When Sunnis betray Sunnis, it is because they choose dunya over deen, and that is what could be said of the Arab regimes. When Shi'a betray Shi'a, it is because they chose dunya over deen.

When Sunnis betray Shi'a for Sunni causes, it is because of inter-madhab solidarity with other Sunnis. Such is the case with Hamas and Syria.

And likewise, when Shi'a "betray" Sunnis for Shi'a causes, it is because of inter-madhab solidarity with other Shi'a. Such is the case with the Shi'a who "betrayed" Saddam (la) for Iran. They did a great thing, by the way. May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) reward them for "betraying" that creature.

Let me ask you this: Why did Hamas betray Syria? What was the "main" cause? Was it not Hamas's Sunnism? 

Edited December 9, 2024 by Ibn Tayyar

[AbdusSibtayn]

2 hours ago, Abu Hadi said:

One point I agree with is that we shouldn't exaggerate and we shouldn't take positions just to be in opposition to another side. This is something I see happening amoung AOR supporters. I think the AOR got a 'reality check' with the pager incident, the assassination of Sayyid Nasrallah(رضي الله عنه), and now the coup in Syria. 

The skeleton of the organization is still there, even though there might be some deep flesh wounds. The Shia in Lebanon before 1979 were the underclass in Lebanon, i.e. the second class citizens. The third class citizens were the Palestinian refugees from the Nakba and 1967. The Downtown Beirut Sunnis and the Jounei Christians were used to being on top and ruling over everyone else. Then the civil war happened and things changed slightly. Then rise of the IRI and Hezb and things changed more. Some Shia took these events to mean that they were now the upper class and that they could rule over the Sunnis and Christians, who have always been part of Lebanon and probably always will be. I don't think this has anything to do with Hezb leadership and IRI leadership but some of the followers started to adopt this attitude. This was where they went astray. 

If Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) loves you and you start to adopt an arrogant attitude, Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) will send some event or events which will give you a 'slap in the face' or a 'punch in the gut' just to correct this wrong behaviors. I believe that is the point of these events. Victory after victory for the AOR started to make some develop a wrong attitude. We are now experiencing the 'punch in the gut'. I think this will be overcome and more forward progress will be made, as I said in my other post. 

Ok Shirazi/Wahhabi/Zionist/CIA/MI6 bug.

Begone with your propaganda pestilence. 

YOU are the one who needs a reality check. 

*Sarcasm*

[Ibn Tayyar]

@Jaabir Brother I believe you are mistaken on the Shi'i belief/narrations regarding "Bayt Al-Maqdis".

Most of the narrations you are referring to speak of "Al-Aqsa" being in the Heavens, not "Bayt Al-Maqdis", even thought you might find a narration or two that says otherwise.

"Bayt Al-Maqdis" (the one in Jerusalem) is a Holy site and Mosque in our narrations, regardless of whether it is "Al-Aqsa" or not, or in Heaven or not.

This is but one narration on the thawab of Salaat there.

Ali (عليه السلام) said: “A single Salaat of Baitul Muqaddas is equal to one thousand prayers. A single prayer of Masjid-e-Azam is equal to one hundred prayers. A single prayer of Masjid-e-Qabeelah is equal to twenty-five prayers and a single prayer of Masjid-e-Sooq is equal to twelve prayers. A Salaat offered in one’s house is equal to a single prayer only.”

https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/23/2/73/1

There is no reason to belittle the Quds brother.

Edited December 9, 2024 by Ibn Tayyar

[Ibn Tayyar]

8 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

So you're criticizing the Resistance Nexus for rescuing Yazidis, Chaldeans etc. from Takfiri clutches in Iraq? They should've let them die because those communities are non-Shi'i? The supremacist mentality being displayed here mirrors that of the Yahud and the Wahhabis

I don't believe I said that even once brother. I have stated that even those Shi'a that fought in Bosnia did something honourable and should be praised. Those who died are martyrs.

All I'm saying is two points.

1) We can only do so much and we only have so much resources. Our resources should favour Shi'a over non-Shi'a, but there is honour and great thawab in helping the non-Shi'a, as long as it doesn't deviate from the priority of attending to Shi'i causes.

2) We shouldn't support those who openly oppose us, whether it be those that oppressed us, betrayed us, or even worse, killed us. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

"#BREAKING Hamas “congratulates Syrian people for achieving aspirations for freedom and justice” - statement — Reuters"

https://t.me/warmonitors/31702

No comments. 

Who's articulating the actual axis position here? 

[Ibn Tayyar]

7 minutes ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

"#BREAKING Hamas “congratulates Syrian people for achieving aspirations for freedom and justice” - statement — Reuters"

https://t.me/warmonitors/31702

No comments. 

Who's articulating the actual axis position here? 

Subhanallah, who could have expected?

You will find some brothers will be harsher towards their fellow Shi'a who disagree with them politically, while they will show quite a bit of leniency towards repeat backstabbers. 

Edited December 9, 2024 by Ibn Tayyar

[AbdusSibtayn]

11 minutes ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

"#BREAKING Hamas “congratulates Syrian people for achieving aspirations for freedom and justice” - statement — Reuters"

https://t.me/warmonitors/31702

No comments. 

Who's articulating the actual axis position here? 

On second thoughts, now that a pole of the axis is vouching for them, it's time that the Syrian rebels me made a part of the axis too, and be henceforth addressed as revolutionaries. They are our Sunni brothers after all, and in the interest of Muslim unity and discouraging sectarianism, they should be brought inside the tent. 

It's high time. Let's listen to Hamas and turn a new page. Make the transition. Let the sectarians and their puppet masters seethe. We're always gonna have our brothers' back. Bygones are bygones. 

 

[AbdusSibtayn]

18 minutes ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

"#BREAKING Hamas “congratulates Syrian people for achieving aspirations for freedom and justice” - statement — Reuters"

https://t.me/warmonitors/31702

No comments. 

Who's articulating the actual axis position here? 

On second thoughts, now that a pole of the axis is vouching for them, it's time that the Syrian rebels me made a part of the axis too, and be henceforth addressed as revolutionaries. They are our Sunni brothers after all, and in the interest of Muslim unity and discouraging sectarianism, they should be brought inside the tent. 

It's high time. Let's listen to Hamas and turn a new page. Make the transition. Let the sectarians and their puppet masters seethe. We're always gonna have our brothers' back. Bygones are bygones. 

 

[AbdusSibtayn]

15 minutes ago, Ibn Tayyar said:

Subhanallah, who could have expected?

You will find some brothers will be harsher towards their fellow Shi'a who disagree with them politically, while they will show quite a bit of leniency towards repeat backstabbers. 

Read the writing on the wall brother. You're so very wrong. It was over for you even before it began. 

Listen to our blood brothers in Hamas; our 'freedom' and 'justice' loving Syrian revolutionary brothers want to march to Karbala. Let's march alongside them. 

I propose a joint HTS-Hamas-Shi'a Arbaeen walk this year. 

We'll do our ziyarah quietly by the side. They'll do what they want to do at the rawdah. Let us send a message of Muslim unity to the sectarians. Let them seethe. Let's own them.

What say? 

 

[Diaz]

39 minutes ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

"#BREAKING Hamas “congratulates Syrian people for achieving aspirations for freedom and justice” - statement — Reuters"

https://t.me/warmonitors/31702

No comments. 

Who's articulating the actual axis position here? 

I wonder what will sayid Hassan (رضي الله عنه) do if he was alive and saw this.

Edited December 9, 2024 by Diaz

[Abu Nur]

17 minutes ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

Read the writing on the wall brother. You're so very wrong. It was over for you even before it began. 

Listen to our blood brothers in Hamas; our 'freedom' and 'justice' loving Syrian revolutionary brothers want to march to Karbala. Let's march alongside them. 

I propose a joint HTS-Hamas-Shi'a Arbaeen walk this year. 

We'll do our ziyarah quietly by the side. They'll do what they want to do at the rawdah. Let us send a message of Muslim unity to the sectarians. Let them seethe. Let's own them.

What say? 

 

May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) curse them.

[Ibn Tayyar]

12 minutes ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

Did I overdo it????? 

These posts are satire @Abu Nur @Diaz @Ibn Tayyar

I understand your sarcasm brother. May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) bless you.

I will however say that with the Hamas solidarity statement to their Syrian rebel brothers, and the Saddam (la) pictures being paraded and circled around, it did remind me of this particular video.

This was in 2003. I wonder who could have predicted a group of Saddamists would betray the Shi'a at their time of need - just a decade later? 

Ali b. Husayn (عليه السلام) said: You must not associate with a fasiq; he may sell you for a single loaf or even less to this or that person. (al-Kafi)

Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) has exposed their treachery, but unfortunately some brothers will never be convinced of their nature.

Edited December 9, 2024 by Ibn Tayyar