Syrian civil war is reignited.

[AbdusSibtayn]

21 minutes ago, Diaz said:

unexpected video from the cj werleman, I watched many videos of him and supported him but this video made me shocked tbh, I'm speechless. Watch it guys and tell me what you think.

 

He's a grifter and a scumbag who panders to the majoritarian Sunni demographic for clout. All of his content is trash too and he is a career Islam-hater pretending to be an 'ally'. 

[Abu Nur]

I think the rebels have already failed for perhaps trying to remove assad by turning the people ageinst him.

Also they can not win the air missiles and nor do they have any air defense or place to hide.

[realizm]

This will simply end up like a quick manipulation of those limited brainwashed wahabi rebels by USA and Israel. 

Once on the battlefield they will abandon them to get slaughtered by AOR Shias, which will ignite a new civil war in all AOR countries. 

[Ashvazdanghe]

17 hours ago, realizm said:

IRI has always declared - and even more these last months - that every country in AOR acts according to its own interests, right ? So why do you want us to aswer your version of the facts - past and yet to come ?

Salam respectfully you misunderstood the point so therefore you are comparing apples with oranges through fake patriotism prisma .

 It's a true statement which which you have wrong interpretation from it which according  to statement neither Iran is  puppet master nor  every country in AOR is  it's puppet country;  which each one have independent leaders but it doesn't mean that they don't have cooperation & integration in opposition policy of America-Zionist Israel - KSA which Iran & other countries of Aor don't violate sovereignty of each other but in case of threatening each one by any enemy or even facing disaster other countries of AOR will rush to help the troubled one AOR country which after solving problem they return to their homeland without creating outpost in similar fashion of American outposts in every puppet country.

 

Edited December 3, 2024 by Ashvazdanghe

[Ashvazdanghe]

19 hours ago, Jaabir said:

This is a new chapter in this war and (obviously) very dangerous for the Shi'i population there. Shi'a villages of Kafreya and al-Fou'a near Idlib were already evacuated years ago, but now Nubl and al-Zahra' has also been evacuated of it's Shi'a population, with HTS taking the villages.

This chapter is different because it's sparking low-level protests throughout the country (including near Damascus) which could easily snowball. Talbisseh is also seeing armed conflict by its locals, and it's literally a 15 minute drive from other Shi'a villages like al-Wa'er and al-Mazra'ah.

Salam these claims about evacuation of Nubl and al-Zahra' is just propaganda of terrorists which spread these misinformation under guise of name of so called "opposition sites" which your source of information  is "Sawt al Asima" which  belongs to terrorists which these false information have no value. 

Edited December 3, 2024 by Ashvazdanghe

[Ashvazdanghe]

Shiite areas of Nubl and Al-Zahra are the top targets of Takfiris in Aleppo 08 Azar 1403 -

2024-11-28 12:57

International News News Productions of Foreign Offices Terrorists have launched a major operation to enter Aleppo since yesterday, while two small Shiite towns in the outskirts of Aleppo have been targeted by mortar and rocket attacks.

Tasnim News Agency reporter "Ahmed Sharbo"«احمد شربو» emphasized in a report from Aleppo, which has been targeted by terrorist groups under the command of Tahrir al-Sham (formerly the Nusra Front) since yesterday, that terrorists are trying to control Aleppo from the west, but at the same time as the operation began in the western countryside of Aleppo, two small towns of Nubl and Al-Zahra in the north of Aleppo have been targeted by rocket and mortar attacks by Takfiris.

 

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A Syrian citizen told a Tasnim reporter in Aleppo, Syria: The city has been under attack since yesterday and people's houses have been destroyed, but we are staying in our city.

A doctor at Hazrat Zahra ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم)) Hospital also told our reporter: During the recent attacks, a large number of people have been seriously injured and some have been martyred.

 

 

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On Wednesday morning, hours after the announcement of a ceasefire between the Zionist regime and Lebanon, the terrorist group Tahrir al-Sham launched a major operation to attack Aleppo in northern Syria, which, according to observations, is considered the largest clashes in the western suburbs of this province since 2016 (the Aleppo Liberation Operation).

https://www.tasnimnews.com/fa/news/1403/09/08/3209261/مناطق-شیعه-نشین-نبل-و-الزهرا-در-صدر-اهداف-تکفیری-ها-در-حلب

https://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/1666321/مناطق-شیعه-نشین-نبل-و-الزهرا-در-صدر-اهداف-تکفیری-ها-در-حلب

 

Edited December 3, 2024 by Ashvazdanghe

[Ashvazdanghe]

Hayat Tahrir al-Sham intend to deploy toxic materials in Aleppo, Idlib
By
Al Mayadeen English
Source: Agencies
2 Dec 2024 22:23

2 Min Read
Russia's RIA NOVOSTI agency reported on a dangerous operation that terrorists are planning to execute in Syria using toxic material.

A reliable Syrian source informed RIA Novosti that militants from Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, formerly known as Jabhat al-Nusra, are preparing to use toxic substances in Syria's Idlib and Aleppo provinces.

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An informed source revealed that militants from Hayat Tahrir al-Sham have transferred several cylinders containing toxic gases from a stronghold of the Turkistan Islamic Party near Jisr al-Shughur to southern Idlib and other areas in western Aleppo.

The terrorists carried out this action using ambulances belonging to the White Helmets organization.

In October, the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service reported that Western intelligence agencies were preparing a simulation involving the use of toxic substances in Syria’s Idlib province, intending to accuse the Syrian army and Russian military forces stationed in the Russian industrial zone.

https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/hayat-tahrir-al-sham-intend-to-deploy-toxic-materials-in-ale?utm_source=mango-searchx&utm_medium=exact_title&utm_campaign=toxic

[Jaabir]

A Turkey-based Hamas official, Talal Nasser, gave an interview yesterday about Syria. He says they support Hezb when they're fighting Israel, and supports the rebels when they're fighting the regime & its supporters in Syria.

This is why this so-called Resistance Axis is a fraud. Hamas will flip sides with the blow of the wind. They only care about the Shi'a money filling their pockets. They actively worked against Bashar from the very beginning of the Syrian conflict, then flipped sides because they needed Iran (but didn't fully reconcile with Bashar anyway!), and now are showing signs of flipping again. What else could be expected from a group that hates the Shi'a aqeedah (but loves their money!) and considers Usama bin Laden a shaheed?

Edited December 3, 2024 by Jaabir

[Abu Nur]

The rebels are now near and  heading from three axis to Hama city and I don't think Syrian forces can handle them.

SDF with American air help Already took new lands near the Syrian Iraqi border.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

[mahmood8726]

1 hour ago, Jaabir said:

A Turkey-based Hamas official, Talal Nasser, gave an interview yesterday about Syria. He says they support Hezb when they're fighting Israel, and supports the rebels when they're fighting the regime & its supporters in Syria.

This is why this so-called Resistance Axis is a fraud. Hamas will flip sides with the blow of the wind. They only care about the Shi'a money filling their pockets. They actively worked against Bashar from the very beginning of the Syrian conflict, then flipped sides because they needed Iran (but didn't fully reconcile with Bashar anyway!), and now are showing signs of flipping again. What else could be expected from a group that hates the Shi'a aqeedah (but loves their money!) and considers Usama bin Laden a shaheed?

Hamas officials in turkey can say all the ridicilous things they want, hamas itself reistablished ties with Syria in 2021-2022 after having backstabbed Iran before because they were bribed by gulf state countries and then got back stabbed by gulf state themselves and realized supporting these thugs in Syria and supporting gulf states was not in their best of intrests. 

 

The officials in turkey, many of them are idiots, their word means nothing. 

[mahmood8726]

9 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

The rebels are now near and  heading from three axis to Hama city and I don't think Syrian forces can handle them.

SDF with American air help Already took new lands near the Syrian Iraqi border.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

They retook many villages near Aleppo, their loyal tribes are attacking sdf who is now mobilizing for another attack after failing against tribes loyal to the SAA. 

 

Hama will stabilize I beleive, it's like 3 days ago when these terrorists took northern Hama and got expelled, the same will happen again. 

[Jaabir]

2 hours ago, mahmood8726 said:

Hamas officials in turkey can say all the ridicilous things they want, hamas itself reistablished ties with Syria in 2021-2022 after having backstabbed Iran before because they were bribed by gulf state countries and then got back stabbed by gulf state themselves and realized supporting these thugs in Syria and supporting gulf states was not in their best of intrests. 

 

The officials in turkey, many of them are idiots, their word means nothing. 

Hamas "reestablished" ties a couple of years ago as a show. Hamas still don't have an office in Damascus or any presence in Syria like they did pre-conflict Syria. Nor did Assad or anyone in his elite circle condemn the Haniyeh or Sinwar killings. Nor did they attend Haniyeh's funeral in Iran as allies do. Just bland foreign ministry statements of "we condemn" as usual.

You're trying to portray the Hamas official in Turkey as some outlier in Hamas. Who in their leadership is left? Khaled Meshaal was called a traitor by Bashar himself and kicked out of Damascus. Hamas's ONLY reason to "reconcile" with Syria is that their begging for support wasn't accepted by any other Arab states. And the only country stupid enough to have anything to do with them was Iran. Hamas at one point even trained the rebels in tunnel engineering and military tactics. Even at the ideological level, they are fully deep in the Muslim Brotherhood sphere which is complete opposite to the secular Ba'athi model. If you think that Hamas wouldn't officially switch sides once again at ANY indication the HTS terrorists would takeover all of Syria, you need to reevaluate your understanding.

[AbdusSibtayn]

47 minutes ago, Jaabir said:

Hamas "reestablished" ties a couple of years ago as a show. Hamas still don't have an office in Damascus or any presence in Syria like they did pre-conflict Syria. Nor did Assad or anyone in his elite circle condemn the Haniyeh or Sinwar killings. Nor did they attend Haniyeh's funeral in Iran as allies do. Just bland foreign ministry statements of "we condemn" as usual.

You're trying to portray the Hamas official in Turkey as some outlier in Hamas. Who in their leadership is left? Khaled Meshaal was called a traitor by Bashar himself and kicked out of Damascus. Hamas's ONLY reason to "reconcile" with Syria is that their begging for support wasn't accepted by any other Arab states. And the only country stupid enough to have anything to do with them was Iran. Hamas at one point even trained the rebels in tunnel engineering and military tactics. Even at the ideological level, they are fully deep in the Muslim Brotherhood sphere which is complete opposite to the secular Ba'athi model. If you think that Hamas wouldn't officially switch sides once again at ANY indication the HTS terrorists would takeover all of Syria, you need to reevaluate your understanding.

Now that Meshal is completely in charge again, I'm not discounting the possibility that he may switch sides (although this will be at the major opportunity cost of losing Iranian and Hezbollah support, pretty much all that he has at the moment- he may think that Qatari and Turkish 'support' is enough). 

Even I don't buy the cope that the betrayal in Syria was just a 'bad decision' or that they were 'misled' by  their Turkish and GCC benefactors; as if they are not rank opportunists who are also deep Sunni chauvinists like all MB offshoots and felt that they could dispense with Iranian support after Morsi came to power in Egypt and the Saudi-Qatari petrodollars begun to pour in. 

They should not be blindly trusted, especially Meshal, who is anti-Shia to his bone marrow and has always seen the Shi'a as unwelcome allies at best. 

[mahmood8726]

1 hour ago, Jaabir said:

Hamas "reestablished" ties a couple of years ago as a show. Hamas still don't have an office in Damascus or any presence in Syria like they did pre-conflict Syria. Nor did Assad or anyone in his elite circle condemn the Haniyeh or Sinwar killings. Nor did they attend Haniyeh's funeral in Iran as allies do. Just bland foreign ministry statements of "we condemn" as usual.

You're trying to portray the Hamas official in Turkey as some outlier in Hamas. Who in their leadership is left? Khaled Meshaal was called a traitor by Bashar himself and kicked out of Damascus. Hamas's ONLY reason to "reconcile" with Syria is that their begging for support wasn't accepted by any other Arab states. And the only country stupid enough to have anything to do with them was Iran. Hamas at one point even trained the rebels in tunnel engineering and military tactics. Even at the ideological level, they are fully deep in the Muslim Brotherhood sphere which is complete opposite to the secular Ba'athi model. If you think that Hamas wouldn't officially switch sides once again at ANY indication the HTS terrorists would takeover all of Syria, you need to reevaluate your understanding.

When I said reistablished, I said it for a reason, I know hamas and Syria are not allies, as of now it's neutral their relation, far better than what it was when they supported these thugs in Syria. Yes I am calling out the Turkish official words as stupid. 

You repeated exactly what I said, hamas is turning to Iran because gulf state countries backstabbed them. Hamas would be incredibly stupid to oppose Iran at this time, especially when more and more gulf states are resitablishing ties with Bashar after trying to kill him for more than a decade. If you think hamas will be stupid enough to ally with al quaeda lunatics who are willing to normalise ties with israel, you need to inform yourself better my friend. 

 

As for ideology, irans ideology is the opposite of syrias half secular half islamic system they have set up. You're paying attention to the wrong things and it leads you to flasley believing hamas will restore ties with HTS who has every intention to normalise with israel, because "hamas salafi, HTS salafi", this is a simplistic way of thinking about this whole situation. By your logic hamas would never accept money from Iran who is their antithesis if we take your claims to be true, atleast Bashar al assads army is mostly sunni with a lot of sunni generals and this is ignoring the fact that turkey is fully secular, there is nothing Islamic about turkey, turkey is as Islamic as Canada is Christian. 

 

The only thing that will make hamas potentially backstab Iran again is if meshal is still holding s grudge for being kicked in 2012.

Edited December 3, 2024 by mahmood8726

[mahmood8726]

Well i might be leaving for a few weeks. 

Before I leave here is a video of al quaeda dogs being sent to jahannam:

https://t.me/ASSYRIA11/46991

 

[realizm]

14 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

even facing disaster other countries of AOR will rush to help the troubled one AOR country

Depending who's at stake.

[Abu Nur]

21 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

The rebels are now near and  heading from three axis to Hama city and I don't think Syrian forces can handle them.

SDF with American air help Already took new lands near the Syrian Iraqi border.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

About SDF, it was false information. They did not take the lands.

[Abu Nur]

There is video where even our Scholars are joining to help the Syrians.

[AbdusSibtayn]

Apparently the Talal Nasser guy is a defector from Hamas. He doesn't work with them anymore and made the statement against Syria to rabble rouse. 

https://t.me/ResistanceTrench/36340

[Abu Nur]

Intense fighting in Hama right now.

The sad part is that it took only days for losing these lands but It is going to take years for taking all these gains back.

[Diaz]

2 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

Intense fighting in Hama right now.

The sad part is that it took only days for losing these lands but It is going to take years for taking all these gains back.

true, and hezbollah liberated these lands and scarified more than 2k men, now we don't know who will liberate it. 

[Ibn Tayyar]

On 12/3/2024 at 4:24 AM, AbdusSibtayn said:

Wa alaikum assalam, 

I don't believe that either of them are 'Muslim-killers'. I don't buy the Wahhabi-NATO narrative on Chechnya and Xinjiang. I don't believe that they are genocidal monsters. The real Muslim-killers are the ETIM and Wahhabi Chechen/Dagi terrorists whom these leaders helped put down, and whose menace we are also facing today. 

Of course Tawakkul is the ideal state, but we have to tether our camel alongside, as the Hadith says. Nobody said these leaders are perfect or blameless, they are merely allies in a common mission that's it. I would any day choose them over 'Muslims' who want me dead, my holy places razed and desecrated, and my womenfolk paraded in open-air sex-slave markets. 

It is natural to feel emotional about a situation where the lives and well being of so many mu'min brothers are at stake. Of course I have exaggerated in some of my posts, but then much of my posts on this thread are just rants or jokes, nothing serious. 

Indeed Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) is sufficient. 

How is it a Wahabbi narrative when Grozny was completed destroyed? How is a Wahabbi narrative when Russia fired inaccurated ballistic missiles and fired artillery shells into Grozny, which no doubt led to civilian casualties? You don't believe there was thousands of Muslims who were injured or killed as they were caught in the crossfire of a brutal assault that left a city in ruins? And do you buy the "NATO narrative" on Bosnia/Serbia? If yes, why? If no, why did many of our Shi'a brothers fight alongside the Bosnians and were rightfully praised for doing so - despite Salafi/Wahabbi presence among the Bosnians, including Al-Qaeda and Saudi funded groups, all the while NATO was destroying Serbian positions from the air?

How can some believers heap praise on Russia and China, whose Governments under Putin and Xi actually placed sanctions on Iran for its nuclear program, and joined the US and the West in condemning Iran at UNSC (Resolution 1929) and placed the Iranian Nuclear Program under Chapter 7 of the UN? Some "allies" they are.

How can some believes take Putin as an "ally" despite Putin and Russia's great relationship with Netanyahu and Israel during the 90s and 00s, where they heaped praise on eachother, called eachother "friends" (as Ariel Sharon referred to Putin), while Putin called Israel a "special state" to Russia - these are only some examples of both sides heaping praise on eachother. One only needs to Google the official statements from Israel and Russia after a diplomatic meeting and you will see the most flowery language when describing eachother - with the exception of the recent times (post-Ukraine).

How is the CCP not a killer of Muslims when the CCP was the chief backer of the Burmese Government, whose Security Forces alongside Buddhist extremists carried out massacres on the Muslim Rohingya in Myanmar? (Some called it a genocide).

How is the CCP not an oppressor of the Muslims despite the animosity communism has towards religion? In my previous post, I shared a link from the mouthpiece of the CCP, where their officials openly state that Muslims cannot fast in Ramadan if they are teachers or public servants. State atheism is never an ally.

How can you call them an "ally", when Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) said not to take Jews and Christians as "awliyaa"? No one is an ally of a believer but a believer. 

The kafir can be a cooperative of the believer based on the interests of the believer. But he can never be an "ally", even if he gave us 99% of what we wanted.

For example, in Afghanistan, Iran famously assisted the Americans in toppling the Taliban/Al-Qaeda regime. After the fall of the Taliban, many of our Shi'a brothers aligned themselves with the pro-US Afghan Government, as they feared a Taliban resurgence which would oppress the Shi'a, as we see today in Afghanistan. Many Shi'a took a supportive or neutral stance to the US removing Saddam (la). This does not make them allies in the slightest. 

My point is, do not elevate their status. Openly point out their misdeeds and hypocrisy. And never consider them an ally. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

2 hours ago, Ibn Tayyar said:

How is it a Wahabbi narrative when Grozny was completed destroyed? How is a Wahabbi narrative when Russia fired inaccurated ballistic missiles and fired artillery shells into Grozny, which no doubt led to civilian casualties? You don't believe there was thousands of Muslims who were injured or killed as they were caught in the crossfire of a brutal assault that left a city in ruins? And do you buy the "NATO narrative" on Bosnia/Serbia? If yes, why? If no, why did many of our Shi'a brothers fight alongside the Bosnians and were rightfully praised for doing so - despite Salafi/Wahabbi presence among the Bosnians, including Al-Qaeda and Saudi funded groups, all the while NATO was destroying Serbian positions from the air?

How can some believers heap praise on Russia and China, whose Governments under Putin and Xi actually placed sanctions on Iran for its nuclear program, and joined the US and the West in condemning Iran at UNSC (Resolution 1929) and placed the Iranian Nuclear Program under Chapter 7 of the UN? Some "allies" they are.

How can some believes take Putin as an "ally" despite Putin and Russia's great relationship with Netanyahu and Israel during the 90s and 00s, where they heaped praise on eachother, called eachother "friends" (as Ariel Sharon referred to Putin), while Putin called Israel a "special state" to Russia - these are only some examples of both sides heaping praise on eachother. One only needs to Google the official statements from Israel and Russia after a diplomatic meeting and you will see the most flowery language when describing eachother - with the exception of the recent times (post-Ukraine).

How is the CCP not a killer of Muslims when the CCP was the chief backer of the Burmese Government, whose Security Forces alongside Buddhist extremists carried out massacres on the Muslim Rohingya in Myanmar? (Some called it a genocide).

How is the CCP not an oppressor of the Muslims despite the animosity communism has towards religion? In my previous post, I shared a link from the mouthpiece of the CCP, where their officials openly state that Muslims cannot fast in Ramadan if they are teachers or public servants. State atheism is never an ally.

How can you call them an "ally", when Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) said not to take Jews and Christians as "awliyaa"? No one is an ally of a believer but a believer. 

The kafir can be a cooperative of the believer based on the interests of the believer. But he can never be an "ally", even if he gave us 99% of what we wanted.

For example, in Afghanistan, Iran famously assisted the Americans in toppling the Taliban/Al-Qaeda regime. After the fall of the Taliban, many of our Shi'a brothers aligned themselves with the pro-US Afghan Government, as they feared a Taliban resurgence which would oppress the Shi'a, as we see today in Afghanistan. Many Shi'a took a supportive or neutral stance to the US removing Saddam (la). This does not make them allies in the slightest. 

My point is, do not elevate their status. Openly point out their misdeeds and hypocrisy. And never consider them an ally. 

By the 'Wahhabi' narrative I mean the desire to form their caliphate in the region- they hijacked the deserving cause of autonomy/self-determination of those people and turned it into a terror cult. I also said I don't buy that narrative because I don't believe there's a 'genocide' going on there. State repression, yes. State sponsored violence, also yes. But claiming genocide is another thing. Particularly for Xinjiang the evidence was so poor that even the Biden administration shifted the claim form 'genocide' to 'cultural genocide' in 2021. 

I use the term 'allies' merely because militarily speaking, currently they are on the same side of the fence, nothing more. Maybe a better term exists. Maybe something semantically more appropriate, but this is what I meant. I don't believe that they are perfect in any way; we don't have the luxury of perfect, morally impeccable allies in the present geopolitical scenario. But for now, they are better than those openly opposing us. 

 

[AbdusSibtayn]

Assad is such a colossally inept idiot. 

All the gains from 2014 onwards are reversing. This feels like Iraq from the summer of 2014 already. The government forces are scattering like chaff. Can't really blame them though, there might be severely strained and unequipped. 

To hell with the Assad family in all honesty; I don't care about them at this point and can see why the supporters are not willing to pour more resources into the bottomless pit that his inept, incompetent governance is. They probably see him as a sunk cost fallacy and can't bail him out endlessly. 

I am more worried about the bloodbath of the minorities which will follow after these demons win (the Christians- Arab, Armenian and Aramaic, the Shi'a- Arab, Kurdish and Turkmen, and the Alawites). 

الله مستعان

 

Edited December 5, 2024 by AbdusSibtayn

[AbdusSibtayn]

All that daily coping press releases about 'tHe tOwN iS sEcUrE dOn'T hEeD rUmOrs' and it took just one push to make these jackasses flee with their tails tucked between their legs. 

They'll move to Homs next and then to Damascus and this moron will fly away to London to be with his wife, leaving the country to the dogs. 

Another problem for the Shi'a, right in the neighborhood. Another festering tumor. 

Edited December 5, 2024 by AbdusSibtayn

[AbdusSibtayn]

They have entered Salamiah, a Shi'a suburb of Hama. 

Recite the Du'a al-Faraj for our besieged mu'mins, dear brothers and sisters. The bloodbath is going to be horrendous. 

[Irfani313]

14 minutes ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

Assad is such a colossally inept idiot. 

All the gains from 2014 onwards are reversing. This feels like Iraq from the summer of 2014 already. The government forces are scattering like chaff. Can't really blame them though, there might be severely strained and unequipped. 

To hell with the Assad family in all honesty; I don't care about them at this point and can see why the supporters are not willing to pour more resources into the bottomless pit that his inept, incompetent governance is. They probably see him as a sunk cost fallacy and can't bail him out endlessly. 

I am more worried about the bloodbath of the minorities which will follow after these demons win (the Christians- Arab, Armenian and Aramaic, the Shi'a- Arab, Kurdish and Turkmen, and the Alawites). 

الله مستعان

 

A global fact, when wahabiya combats Sunnis, Sunnis loose. It true from the time of ottomans. 

It’s the conviction of ideology, satanic or not. They take all the good from Islamic sharia while still following the aqeeda of Shaytan and Muawiah. There are incentives to wahabiya pre- and post- combat. Wahabiya forces stick to their rulings of Islamic concept of Ghanema wealth and remarriage of widows and sheltering of orphans, besides all the wealth that comes from their benefactors in region and beyond. 

As far as Syria first run, I believe the AOR mistakes were two folds, one was the money generating lands were left to enemies and there was no war booty arrangement.
 

Why would a Russian mother send her son to Syria? Maybe because her country gets to gain some tangible benefits in the form of Syrian coastal access that results in trade and monetary benefit to the state, plus the expansion of influence sphere. 
 

Why would an Iraqi or Lebanese mother send her son to Syria to prop up Assad? 
For that matter, why would a Syrian mother send her son to combat wahabiya? What has the Iraqi, Lebanese, & Syrian population gained in their previous half baked wins in Syria?
 

AOR leaving the money generating oil wells in the hands of oil cartels and their armies left the Syria stripped and it couldn’t feed its children and payback its friends. Half baked stalemate causes half willed population in the next run (something like the current zio-hizb ceasefire 2024, watch out AOR). 
 

If AOR is going to be involved this time around, they ought to fall back to Islamic war bounty rulings, whatever irrigation lands and oil wells they win, ought to benefit the families of the AOR sons and daughters directly, of course with a fair share to the Syrian state. 

As far as AOR’s option of friendly regime change in Dimishq, AOR has no options. No Sunni head of state past, present, or future can be trusted in Syria or anywhere  (read the first line above). Unfortunately AOR will have to settle for Asad till the time he is alive (or one of his clan’s mate after him), even a Christian Syrian head of state would be reliable than a Sunni, but that’s not possible. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

3 minutes ago, Irfani313 said:

A global fact, when wahabiya combats Sunnis, Sunnis loose. It true from the time of ottomans. 

It’s the conviction of ideology, satanic or not. They take all the good from Islamic sharia while still following the aqeeda of Shaytan and Muawiah. There are incentives to wahabiya pre- and post- combat. Wahabiya forces stick to their rulings of Islamic concept of Ghanema wealth and remarriage of widows and sheltering of orphans, besides all the wealth that comes from their benefactors in region and beyond. 

As far as Syria first run, I believe the AOR mistakes were two folds, one was the money generating lands were left to enemies and there was no war booty arrangement.
 

Why would a Russian mother send her son to Syria? Maybe because her country gets to gain some tangible benefits in the form of Syrian coastal access that results in trade and monetary benefit to the state, plus the expansion of influence sphere. 
 

Why would an Iraqi or Lebanese mother send her son to Syria to prop up Assad? 
For that matter, why would a Syrian mother send her son to combat wahabiya? What has the Iraqi, Lebanese, & Syrian population gained in their previous half baked wins in Syria?
 

AOR leaving the money generating oil wells in the hands of oil cartels and their armies left the Syria stripped and it couldn’t feed its children and payback its friends. Half baked stalemate causes half willed population in the next run (something like the current zio-hizb ceasefire 2024, watch out AOR). 
 

If AOR is going to be involved this time around, they ought to fall back to Islamic war bounty rulings, whatever irrigation lands and oil wells they win, ought to benefit the families of the AOR sons and daughters directly, of course with a fair share to the Syrian state. 

As far as AOR’s option of friendly regime change in Dimishq, AOR has no options. No Sunni head of state past, present, or future can be trusted in Syria or anywhere  (read the first line above). Unfortunately AOR will have to settle for Asad till the time he is alive (or one of his clan’s mate after him), even a Christian Syrian head of state would be reliable than a Sunni, but that’s not possible. 

Bhaijaan we can mull about what led to this (EDITED) -show endlessly, but for now I am amazed by the utter incompetence of these guys. 

But seriously if the AoR don't get their act together now it will be too late. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

It's done for. Back to musallahs now. 

The strategists in Tehran will have to figure out some alternate way to supply aid to Hezb in Lebanon. Hezb meanwhile will have to fortify the front lines so that this cancer doesn't spread to their doorstep next. 

[Irfani313]

12 minutes ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

It's done for. Back to musallahs now. 

The strategists in Tehran will have to figure out some alternate way to supply aid to Hezb in Lebanon. Hezb meanwhile will have to fortify the front lines so that this cancer doesn't spread to their doorstep next. 

It’s too early to declare anything but the Hadith of the end times tell us of a Christian nation who would be allies first and then would become antagonists. 
 

Whenever full Syria falls to Sufyani wahabiya, the one and only incentive for Russia would be ended. At that point the Mehdioun/Shia would be left to themselves without Russian ally. 
 

AOR core, doesn’t has many options in Syria. Maybe a land takeover by AOR bordering Iraq and Lebanon would be the last option left to AOR. Maybe not!! 

[Abu Nur]

1 hour ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

To hell with the Assad family in all honesty; I don't care about them at this point and can see why the supporters are not willing to pour more resources into the bottomless pit that his inept, incompetent governance is. They probably see him as a sunk cost fallacy and can't bail him out endlessly. 

I'm starting to feel like do Syrian army have anymore willingness to fight back or are Syrians people sympathies with these rebels? If yes then what is the point to fight anymore? Is it not better to leave them to handle Syria to themselves and if they are willingly to have some kind of truce that they will not fight Iraq, Iran and Lebanon?

[Guest Kaz]

5 minutes ago, Abu Nur said:

I'm starting to feel like do Syrian army have anymore willingness to fight back or are Syrians people sympathies with these rebels? If yes then what is the point to fight anymore? Is it not better to leave them to handle Syria to themselves and if they are willingly to have some kind of truce that they will not fight Iraq, Iran and Lebanon?

The problem is we still think in a rational way , these people are genociders , what truce? They will annhilate the Shias systematically as punishment for their fight against 1zrael and z10nist project , the axis  states like 1ran still play within the rules their enemy drew for them , which they dont abide by! These people seek zero sum game of total domination. People better start realizing that! 

[Abu Nur]

2 minutes ago, Guest Kaz said:

The problem is we still think in a rational way , these people are genociders , what truce? They will annhilate the Shias systematically as punishment for their fight against 1zrael and z10nist project , the axis  states like 1ran still play within the rules their enemy drew for them , which they dont abide by! These people seek zero sum game of total domination. People better start realizing that! 

Truce for their own good, because if they go against it, then we will response harshly.

[Irfani313]

7 minutes ago, Guest Kaz said:

The problem is we still think in a rational way , these people are genociders , what truce? They will annhilate the Shias systematically as punishment for their fight against 1zrael and z10nist project , the axis  states like 1ran still play within the rules their enemy drew for them , which they dont abide by! These people seek zero sum game of total domination. People better start realizing that! 

Totally agree. 

A Shia minority among a Wahabiya regions is a dead minority.

Anybody thinking wahabiya being lenient to Shia anywhere need to look at the recent and past events. 

Taliban Afghanistan, Sunni sides of Baghdad, Paki Parachinar, Quetta, Karachi, DI/DG khan, Shia regions of Nigeria, Bahrain, oil producing regions of Hejaz, even certain areas in Kuwait, wherever there are Shia in minority among Wahabiya, be ready to be prejudiced, discriminated, looted, & murdered. No level of alliances or appeasement would render us any benefits. It’s not a myth, it’s a solid fact, as solid as sky is blue and blood is red fact. 
 

Depending on what happens in Syria, a Syrian land grab by AOR with an installed and managed Syrian figurehead seems like the most reasonable plan B, IF pushing sufyanis back to turkey becomes non-feasible. 

[Abu Nur]

I'm starting to think there is heavy propaganda in social media about the gains of HTS.

Edited December 5, 2024 by Abu Nur