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BREAKING — Israel's military says it is carrying out strikes against military targets in Iran

 

The Iranian assault followed Israel's launching widespread attacks in Lebanon, including the killing of Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah on September 27.

This is a developing story. More to follow.

Explosions heard in Iranian capital

Iranian state TV reported that several loud explosions were heard in capital Tehran and nearby city Karaj city early on Saturday morning.

 
 
 

There was no official comment about the source of the explosions.

Israel has been planning its response to a ballistic missile barrage carried out by Iran on October 1, which was Tehran's second direct attack on Israel in six months

"Some people report hearing the sound of several explosions in the west of Tehran," Tasnim news agency reported.

Iranian authorities had previously warned Israel against launching an attack, saying any strike on Iran would be met with a stronger retaliation.

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27 minutes ago, mahmood8726 said:

https://t.me/SNNenglish/44224

 

Breaking: Scenes of Iranian air defenses active over the east of Tehran amidst reports of a renewed Israeli attack.

Looks a lot like anti-aircraft guns, like WWII style exploding shells.  Maybe some anti-missile missiles, but all those tiny explosions look a like exploding shells.  Sun should be coming up soon.

 

Also, like I said, the video I saw posted of Israeli jet over Jordan looks fake.  No way it could fly that low without giving everyone in its path a heads up, plus it would burn a ton of fuel.  They don't have the luxury of multiple refuelings.  

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13 minutes ago, coldcow said:

Looks a lot like anti-aircraft guns, like WWII style exploding shells.  Maybe some anti-missile missiles, but all those tiny explosions look a like exploding shells.  Sun should be coming up soon.

 

Also, like I said, the video I saw posted of Israeli jet over Jordan looks fake.  No way it could fly that low without giving everyone in its path a heads up, plus it would burn a ton of fuel.  They don't have the luxury of multiple refuelings.  

There were multiple American refueling aircraft heading towards tel aviv hours ago. This attack will last for hours potentially days even. They're going to do multiple waves.

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"The Israeli attacks on Iran are expected to continue for several more hours, according to a person briefed on Israel’s military planning

The person said the target list contains military assets, particularly missile manufacturing facilities and aerial defense sites."

- Washington Post

 

 

 

Informed sources to the Iranian Tasnim News Agency:

"There is no doubt that Israel will receive a proportionate response to any agression."

 

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12 minutes ago, mahmood8726 said:

The person said the target list contains military assets, particularly missile manufacturing facilities and aerial defense sites."

 

Yeah, makes sense they'll try and hit missile depots and manufacturing.  Would help limit a response.  

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10 hours ago, coldcow said:

Yeah, makes sense they'll try and hit missile depots and manufacturing.  Would help limit a response.  

Israel's defense minister warned the other day that the world will soon see "Israel's might."

Turned out to be a nothing burger...

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Ok, so what happened?

-Israel launched 200 ballistic missiles/missiles from jets over Iraq(?). More missiles than Iran launched on oct 1.

-I can confidently say 99% were intercepted. Israel wanted this to be a major attack "iran would not see comming", instead irans AD stopped most of the missiles and embarrassed Israel a lot. 

-2-4 soldiers in the irgc were martyred.

-Farming factory was hit? Not even a weapons manufacturing factory, a farming equipment one got hit.

-A bush in an Iranian highway caught on fire.

-Potentially yet unconfirmed, 2 AD systems were destroyed? 

 

 

That's it. Israel's attack was strong, but they heavily under estimated irans AD and is now being laughed at by the world, even by formed centcom leader.

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The israeli air force as has been pointed it out before, is limited in distance and scope of operations and a huge number of potential targets to try and degrade Iran's defenses, petro- infrastructure,   hardened military or nuclear targets. 

Hence the continued success of the Ansarullah. 

It would require hundreds to thousands of sorties,   to even have any more than a negligible effect on iran's military capabilities.

The israelis don't have B-52 or B2 bombers, and even if they did, the would be hesitant to use them unless the anti aircraft artillery and missile defenses were degraded . 

Understand to destroy defensive anti-aircraft positions, those hundreds of sorties will need to expose those limited aircraft and pilots,  to artillery and missile fire. Again not feasible. 

Hence,  the Israelis had to fire from 400 km away from Iran border, most of the largest strikes were on Western positions, with very limited effect.

Without long-range bombers, heavy  airstrikes into iran are not possible. You would need in air refueling with stratotankers, which while possible is very risky, depending on where the location of the refueling is done.

The israelis have small aircraft , F-15, F16 or F35 with limited capability to handle launching large range heavy payload missiles. The more missiles or heavier payload they pack on, the more visible they are to ground and air radar. The F35, which is the lone stealth jet, becomes very visible to radar with the more missile capability added.

Israel , without an  American huge resupply effort,  has a very limited number of ballistic missiles, which could be used to attack long-range targets. The ukraine war has already severely degraded america's resupply capabilities. This would require thousands of flights of transport aircraft delivering ballistic missiles, this would take at least a year.

Additionally, most of the military targets and nuclear targets are in hardened positions, deep in the ground or surrounded by mountains, which would require unlimited bunker buster type  ammunitions, and these are not highly or readily available.  Also to use guided ammunitions, the israelis would need significant special forces on the ground, which could laser direct bombs. Good luck getting israeli special forces into iran. Having forces on the ground for the israelis is again not feasible.... ever.

What is most amazing to me is that Israel has been training for more than 10 years for this type of air attack.  If this is the result after ten years of training, it's pitiful and laughable. In fact, before we heard of the deaths in Iran, there was multiple jokes going around that IRGC had suffered casualties,  and a battalion had died from laughing.

I mean, it takes three years to properly train a pilot to go up against anti aircraft artillery fire and missile batteries and conduct an attack. If this was all their pilots were capable of then the israelis are in for hell of pain.

The simple fact that they didn't even cross into Iranian territory with their stealth aircraft tells me that they are very scared of the iranian response, and hence only showed a performative attack. Something that was done more for domestic consumption and international PR and less of a serious attack. 

Now,  I'm  not saying that israel cannot attack Iran with aircraft and cause damages, But again, that damage is going to be very limited and depends on how much risk they're willing to take..... from what i've seen, the israelis are not big risk takers and are not willing to make any real sacrifices.

According to Lao Tzu's Art of war, such people can never win a real war. The israelis of the fifties and sixties, maybe.... the israelis of the two thousand twenties, no way  .... They're only good at tiktok war or killing women and children. Hence, their total failure at the lebanese border.

This inability to make the self sacrifice, fight a long war of attrition and have depth of armaments and deterrents limits and sentences israel to a slow death.

For there to be any major change to this above military Calculus, would require boots on the ground and the US is not willing or able to supply those boots on the ground. And even if they were, we've already seen the pitiful results in Iraq, Afghanistan and even Somalia.

Even boots on the ground means very little unless they're willing to fight a ten year war  and willing to absorb a huge number of casualties. That is not possible for the americans of the twenty twenties either.

 So the Americans and Israelis are left with a stalemate with the iranians. And the nuclear option, even with  small tactical nukes, is also really not an option, given the inability to control post nuclear consequences. 

 So it looks like the israelis are either left with a Samson option or a Samsonite option.

 

 

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9 hours ago, Shaheed786 said:

Israel's defense minister warned the other day that the world will soon see "Israel's might."

Turned out to be a nothing burger...

Let us not get arrogant.  Israel has proven time and time again to be a very cunning foe.  Whether it be via cyber operations, assassinations, or a concerted propaganda campaign, they have a lot of tricks up their sleeves.  We also have yet to see the satellite imagery of what may have been attacked.  And while 2 IRGC were killed, no word if more were injured.

5 hours ago, mahmood8726 said:

Statement by the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Iran:

 

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@coldcow here is the official statement from Iran. It was jets firing missiles from iraq.

Yeah, Iraq makes more sense than Jordan.  And I believe they attacked Syrian radar sites prior to flying, so as to help prevent Syria from telling Iran where the jets were.  I heard before that they may try loading cruise missiles to the planes, not sure if they did that, but would certainly allow them to launch from farther away than with conventional air to ground missiles.

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No I would like to switch gears here from pseudo-military arm chair analyst to Student of eschatology.

I think people who have talked about the malhama, rise of the dajjal and have used the Qur’ān,and hadees for describing the end times, we are seeing the fulfillment of some of those prophecies that people have made.

Especially Imam Imran Hossein, I still disagree with his sunni version of Imam Mahdi, But in terms of geopolitical movements and the end times he has been remarkably accurate, using an alternate interpretation of the Quran, as his primary source reference.

Specifically, I mean that in the end days, there will be the christians and muslims coming together to fight the yahood and we are seeing that right now, with the russians, giving support to the axis of resistance and iran.

Now, we know that there will be a white death, a red death and severe consequences for both muslims and non muslims. I anticipate, new man-made Bioweapons and increase in sudden deaths and other types of deaths and also a huge decrease in fertility.

We know they're there will be severe trials and tribulations,  earthquakes, many wars, and we can see right now with the situation in the middle east, the situation in ukraine and adjacent territories, tensions on the Korean peninsula, at the venezuelan borders with guyana and brazil, the situation with China and Taiwan and other adjacent countries there is likely to be many new wars.

Thes wars and  rapid development of new alliances and cooperation like the SCO, the BRICS and other non aligned movements have seemingly been accurately predicted 1400 years ago by our Prophet and Imams.

The era of trials and tribulations, red death, white death, black death, immorality, mighty wars, unnatural phenomena, an invasion by Yajuj and Majuj into Arab lands, and the return of justice to the world all seem to be slowly coming together. 

I am still unsure who will be the Yamani, the khorasani and the sufyani, but I am sure dajal is now very active in his work, and we will soon see an attempt at making jerusalem a capital of the world once the dollar has been destroyed, we have CBDC and the west is a pitiful shadow of itself.

I think we will see great Changes and upheavals in the sunni arab governments, and you will see a rise of an islamic state and the beginnings of a sunni caliphate which hopefully will eventually ally with a shia crescent, Inshallah being led by our IMAM ATFJ and his glorious 313.

I would love to discuss with others views and what prophecies they see being fulfilled.

Like the replacement of the Saudi regime, the rise of the East and China, the destruction of Europe and the west thru self Inflicted wounds, wars being fought with more primitive weapons etc.

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26 minutes ago, coldcow said:

Let us not get arrogant.  Israel has proven time and time again to be a very cunning foe.  Whether it be via cyber operations, assassinations, or a concerted propaganda campaign, they have a lot of tricks up their sleeves. 

They used most of their wild cards. Israel was supposed to use their pager thing right now, but they used it prematurely, they get cyber attacked by iraqis, iranians and hezb all the time. As for the assasinations this has been israels expertise since before their fake state existed, had hezb not prepared for this, their org would have collapsed, now Israel is pulling back in a week to 3 weeks.  Yes they have a massive propaganda campaign, which brainwashed millions, but this year hasn't been so kind to them, everyone now has trust issues with western press and for good reason.

26 minutes ago, coldcow said:

We also have yet to see the satellite imagery of what may have been attacked. 

Already released and already debunked. https://t.me/FotrosResistance/9676 , they seem to have damaged some buildings, the ones I mentionned on top, but that's about it.

26 minutes ago, coldcow said:

And while 2 IRGC were killed, no word if more were injured.

4 irgc killed.

26 minutes ago, coldcow said:

Yeah, Iraq makes more sense than Jordan.  And I believe they attacked Syrian radar sites prior to flying, so as to help prevent Syria from telling Iran where the jets were. 

I was following the attacks closely, the Syrian AD were actually engaging with them, but Syrian AD is so bad, it barely did anything. They damaged irans radars though.

26 minutes ago, coldcow said:

I heard before that they may try loading cruise missiles to the planes, not sure if they did that, but would certainly allow them to launch from farther away than with conventional air to ground missiles.

You could be right here.

 

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9 minutes ago, Hasani Samnani said:

No I would like to switch gears here from pseudo-military arm chair analyst to Student of eschatology.

I think people who have talked about the malhama, rise of the dajjal and have used the Qur’ān,and hadees for describing the end times, we are seeing the fulfillment of some of those prophecies that people have made.

Especially Imam Imran Hossein, I still disagree with his sunni version of Imam Mahdi, But in terms of geopolitical movements and the end times he has been remarkably accurate, using an alternate interpretation of the Quran, as his primary source reference.

Specifically, I mean that in the end days, there will be the christians and muslims coming together to fight the yahood and we are seeing that right now, with the russians, giving support to the axis of resistance and iran.

Now, we know that there will be a white death, a red death and severe consequences for both muslims and non muslims. I anticipate, new man-made Bioweapons and increase in sudden deaths and other types of deaths and also a huge decrease in fertility.

We know they're there will be severe trials and tribulations,  earthquakes, many wars, and we can see right now with the situation in the middle east, the situation in ukraine and adjacent territories, tensions on the Korean peninsula, at the venezuelan borders with guyana and brazil, the situation with China and Taiwan and other adjacent countries there is likely to be many new wars.

Thes wars and  rapid development of new alliances and cooperation like the SCO, the BRICS and other non aligned movements have seemingly been accurately predicted 1400 years ago by our Prophet and Imams.

The era of trials and tribulations, red death, white death, black death, immorality, mighty wars, unnatural phenomena, an invasion by Yajuj and Majuj into Arab lands, and the return of justice to the world all seem to be slowly coming together. 

I am still unsure who will be the Yamani, the khorasani and the sufyani, but I am sure dajal is now very active in his work, and we will soon see an attempt at making jerusalem a capital of the world once the dollar has been destroyed, we have CBDC and the west is a pitiful shadow of itself.

I think we will see great Changes and upheavals in the sunni arab governments, and you will see a rise of an islamic state and the beginnings of a sunni caliphate which hopefully will eventually ally with a shia crescent, Inshallah being led by our IMAM ATFJ and his glorious 313.

I would love to discuss with others views and what prophecies they see being fulfilled.

Like the replacement of the Saudi regime, the rise of the East and China, the destruction of Europe and the west thru self Inflicted wounds, wars being fought with more primitive weapons etc.

We all know this is the malhama akhi, I expect Israel to nuke beiruit, Damascus and Tehran at this point. This will get nasty.

Even in a server I was, when Israel attacked Iran, the owner got excited because he thought Israel just initiated the malhma and will make iran cluster bomb their cities. 

So many people seem to be thinking this is the malhma ww3, but we might all be wrong. Hopefully it's far, but at this point this is wishful thinking.

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10 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

I believe ww3 have already begun many years ago

There is a 10-part docu-series called "Europa: The Last Battle" which explores the Zionist role in WW1 and WW2 as methods to create Israel. In the first part of 10 it talks about how 66 million people in Russia were killed in the Bolshevik Revolution and related conflicts to overthrow the last Russian monarch and establish communism and how the Bolsheviks were Zionist Jews.  It also talks about the book "Rome and Jerusalem" published by Moses Hess in 1865, 35 years before Theodore Herzl published. Anyways this docu-series is circulating in some Christian groups even though it is labeled by the likes of Wikipedia and the ADL as Neo-nazi.

It is worth looking into because if the Zionist Jews are behind WW1 and WW2 to create the state of Israel. They would have no hesitation to start WW3 to either protect or expand Israel into Greater Israel. The docu-series was recommended to me by a Christian who is sympathetic to the Palestinians and Lebanese being genocided by Israel. 

If this is true Iran, Hezbollah, and other resistance groups are standing up for the whole world and humanity, not just Muslims. 

https://rumble.com/v4t9kti-documentary-europa-the-last-battle-part-one.html?playlist_id=blReUQvCRjI

 

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https://t.me/FotrosResistance/9702

 

Iran’s FM says:

 

“Israel’s attack was not as severe as they had advertised, and our defense forces resisted their attack well. Though they inflicted some minor damages.

 

The blood of our lost personnel will not go in vein. We will not refrain from responding to Israel’s aggression, and we will do so at an appropriate time.

 

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22 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

I believe ww3 have already begun many years ago and it is a degeneration of human spirit and moral values till it reached to spiritual death that is worse than physical one. It is so painful to even see this spiritual death everywhere while people think the life is actually normal, when in reality it is not.

I agree 100%. 

Many people talk about the multiverse or different aspects of the present universe. 

I agree there is a spiritual and ethereal plane on addition to the earthly plane. The veils that are constantly referred to in the Quran and Hadiths of our Imam,  are veils which keep the other planes and realms hidden. Only our Holy Leaders could see these with the veils removed . The continued death of innocents serves to serve as fire and energy for the shayateen who are locked is spiritual combat with the forces of good. This is why it essential when the shia ummah and the world  works on their imaan and taqwa or humaniarian efforts, we provide spiritual energy for the forces of good. This energy is what will help usher in the entrance of our Imam AJFK. 

The evil we see in the world,  the degeneration of human spirit and moral values that @Abu Nur refers to is working to destroy the people of faith. We are locked in spiritual combat with these forces.

12 hours ago, Abu Hadi said:

At that moment the global system based on kufr will collapse all at once and this will prepare the way for Al Hujjat(a.f.s). 

This global kufr system will continue to get major shocks and involve the upheaval of evil regimes and entities, superpowers and their little shaitan henchmen will be on the verge of defeats when the dajjal will have to  make his presence known as a fake leader for peace and prosperity, to try and save his global kufr system.

On 10/26/2024 at 7:30 PM, Hasani Samnani said:

Like the replacement of the Saudi regime, the rise of the East and China, the destruction of Europe and the west thru self Inflicted wounds, wars being fought with more primitive weapons etc.

These black swan events and the convergence of multiple tribulations will be the foreshadowing of the emergence of our Imam AJFK inshallah.

Hopefully we will be prepared to fight on the material and spiritual planes.

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On 10/26/2024 at 7:02 PM, coldcow said:

Let us not get arrogant.  Israel has proven time and time again to be a very cunning foe. 

However,  whether It was a SEAD mission that didn't work or just a FUBAR mission,  this strike was an world renowned embarrassment....given their pre mission arrogant and ominous boasting.

14 hours ago, Azadeh307 said:

Iran, Hezbollah, and other resistance groups are standing up for the whole world and humanity, not just Muslims. 

1000% this is Shaytaan and his global yazeedi minions against Hussainiat and the forces of Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) on a material and spiritual warfare plane.

And the Europa documentary is very persuasive and historically accurate..

 

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On 10/26/2024 at 7:39 PM, mahmood8726 said:

I expect Israel to nuke beiruit, Damascus and Tehran

I really doubt this,  since their aim is Greater Israel from the Nile to the Furaat.......there is no point in causing radioactive contamination of the lands you wish to rule....but make no mistake they will make a huge effort to take over these lands thru deception, assassinations, through geopolitical maneuvering and false flag attacks like 9/11 and 7/7 to sway others to their side thru treachery.

 

On 10/26/2024 at 7:39 PM, mahmood8726 said:

this is the malhma

I think this is just the beginning of the Malhama....which will last for many years.

As far as Tehran and nuking it....I have a very strong belief that Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) protects Iran against kufar....Remember the same embarrassment the Americans had in 1980 trying to attack Iran...

All the major enemies who tried to attack Iran or Shia leaders have either died themselves, killed by their own people  and suffered or like Ariel Sharon suffered the most profound painful deaths or had attempts on their lives. Remember all the Baathist leaders were hunted down like dogs with their faces on playing card decks of death, by their old allies.

Even Trump had a bullet wound in his head, his just barely survived,  a little change of his head position and he would have been like a exploded like a watermelon. This was most likely his own deep state....

MAKR WA MAKRULLAH,  WALLHU KAHYRUL MAKEYREEN 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Hasani Samnani said:

I really doubt this,  since their aim is Greater Israel from the Nile to the Furaat.......there is no point in causing radioactive contamination of the lands you wish to rule....but make no mistake they will make a huge effort to take over these lands thru deception, assassinations, through geopolitical maneuvering and false flag attacks like 9/11 and 7/7 to sway others to their side thru treachery.

Israel has already contaminated the lands of Lebanon, Gaza, Syria with white phosphorus and Uranium tipped bombs. Yes the same Uranium used by American forces in falluja Iraq.

 

Hydrogen bombs don't create long lasting radiation and traditional nukes don't cause fallout radiation that last this long, Hiroshima and nagasaki are inhabited today.

 

4 hours ago, Hasani Samnani said:

 

I think this is just the beginning of the Malhama....which will last for many years.

Nukes will be instrumental in causing mass casualties in the malhama. 

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Zio regime planned a 3 phase attack, but it got cancelled at first phase. They discoverred an unknown defense system according to this video.

 

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