Parachinar under attack again

[Guest Ya Mahdi]

Parachinar is under attack again since a week or so.

The shia there are putting a stellar defense as always by the help of All Mighty Allah and with the help of the al-Qaim. One of a small village was attacked a few nights ago by 10,000 strong militia including the surrounding sunni population and others reaching from as far as the Afghan border with direct taliban involvement.

The Government's forces are also seen in trenches like last time in their support.

Remember them in your prayers. Some clips that have come through via social media platforms are being posted below which will be deleted in 48 hours.

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Kids taking water to the front lines, yes, kids. When everyone is up on the mountains on the front lines of the shia villages, only women and kids are left behind and they do their part too.

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Edited September 28, 2024 by Hameedeh
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[mahmood8726]

https://t.me/NEWWORLDORDYR/25126

 

 Breaking News: Ongoing atrocities against Shia Muslims in Parachinar, Pakistan 

 

For the past two hours, vehicles carrying oppressed Shia passengers from Parachinar have come under relentless fire from Takfiri terrorists stationed in Bagan and other fronts.

 

Some passengers have abandoned their vehicles, seeking shelter among rocks and fields, while reports confirm numerous casualties and severe injuries. Women and children are among those trapped in the targeted vehicles.

 

The assault, carried out by Takfiri terrorists in Uacht, Lower Kurram, involved the use of rocket launchers, heavy weapons, and motorized shells. 

 

Over 25 martyrs have been reported so far, with bodies lying along roadsides and inside destroyed vehicles.

 

Disturbingly, local mosques affiliated with Ahle-Sunnah Takfiri groups have reportedly issued declarations of jihad and calls for looting.

 

The situation remains dire and demands immediate attention. 

 

Meanwhile, the Government of nuclear Pakistan, keeps turning a blind eye to this ongoing situation in that volatile mountainous region, despite protests made by Parachinar residents on online forums. 

 

 @NEWWORLDORDYR

[mahmood8726]

https://t.me/NEWWORLDORDYR/25136?single

 Picture of three of the child martyrs, the child in the blue shirt was shot in the mouth... And the infant was only 6 months old, the youngest martyr in this aggression launched by Takfiri Wahabis in Parachinar

 

 Same Wahhabis never put any effort to go and fight the israelis, but are only courageous and strong when it comes to attacking and killing children and innocents

 

@NEWWORLDORDYR

Warning, one of the pictures is palestine like graphic, don't look at it if you have a weak stomach 

 

[Panzerwaffe]

I can’t believe Israel is attacking parachinar 

unbelievable these Zionist’s 

[Panzerwaffe]

10 minutes ago, mahmood8726 said:

https://t.me/NEWWORLDORDYR/25136?single

 Picture of three of the child martyrs, the child in the blue shirt was shot in the mouth... And the infant was only 6 months old, the youngest martyr in this aggression launched by Takfiri Wahabis in Parachinar

 

 Same Wahhabis never put any effort to go and fight the israelis, but are only courageous and strong when it comes to attacking and killing children and innocents

 

@NEWWORLDORDYR

Warning, one of the pictures is palestine like graphic, don't look at it if you have a weak stomach 

 

This is the result of entire Muslim world inc Shia states short sighted policy of supporting the fasad in Afghanistan in 80s 

at that time all mullahs were taking $$ and didn’t see struggle of Palestinians all Arab volunteers went to Afghanistan to do what ? Fight Soviets trying to help the afghan govt 

The genie is out of the bottle 

should have supported the Soviets who were trying to civilize Afghanistan, like the central Asian stans now though dictatorship are atleast not basketcases 

Edited November 21, 2024 by Panzerwaffe

[Sirius_Bright]

Can someone help me with Sayyed Ali Khamenei's statement on Parachinar. 

[mahmood8726]

Grand Ayatollah Sayyid Ali al-Sistani, may Allah the Almighty grant him a long life:

"In the name of God, the most gracious, the most merciful

(We belong to Allah and to Him we shall return)

Our believing brothers and sisters in the city of Parachinar, Pakistan (may Allah Almighty glorify them)

May the peace, mercy, and blessings of God be upon you.

Once again, the ruthless terrorists committed a horrific crime, launching an armed attack on the passengers who were on their way from Parachinar to Peshawar, killing or injuring a large number of innocent believers.

We express our condolences and sympathy to you, dear ones, and express our regret and sympathy to the bereaved families. We ask God to grant everyone patience and solace, a speedy recovery to the injured, and elevation and advancement in ranks for the martyrs of this painful event.

The religious seminary in Najaf Ashraf and the supreme Shia authority, while condemning this horrific crime targeting the unity of Muslims, appeal to the respected government of Pakistan to take the necessary measures to support the oppressed people in confronting the injustice and crimes of terrorist groups, and not to allow innocent believers to be subjected to violent and brutal attacks by extremist and cruel groups from time to time.

We ask God Almighty to grant the honorable people of Pakistan lasting glory and dignity."

 

Edited November 22, 2024 by mahmood8726

[mahmood8726]

19 hours ago, Sirius_Bright said:

Can someone help me with Sayyed Ali Khamenei's statement on Parachinar. 

I can't, but here is sayed sistani above, who has similar stances to sayed khamenaei, if it helps in any way.

Edited November 22, 2024 by mahmood8726

[Essentials123]

I am very sorry to hear this happened in Pakistan. It seems there is a lot of sectarian violence against Shia Muslims there. May Allah protect the Shia. 

[mahmood8726]

 

 

There is now the iranian embassy condemning it. 

[Diaz]

When will this terror end in Pakistan? How many Shia should die? I still can’t understand why we Shia can’t stop them. 

[Jaabir]

1 hour ago, Diaz said:

When will this terror end in Pakistan? How many Shia should die? I still can’t understand why we Shia can’t stop them. 

It will never end. Because only Palestinians deserve Shi'a money and weaponry from Iran. The rest of the Shi'as of who've been targeted for decades only deserve press releases and crocodile tears from Mr. Rahbar. "Call us Rafidis. But we Shi'as will never forget Palestine!" but we will forget our own Shi'as.

[mahmood8726]

36 minutes ago, Jaabir said:

It will never end. Because only Palestinians deserve Shi'a money and weaponry from Iran. The rest of the Shi'as of who've been targeted for decades only deserve press releases and crocodile tears from Mr. Rahbar. "Call us Rafidis. But we Shi'as will never forget Palestine!" but we will forget our own Shi'as.

Lebanese people, yemenis, iraqis are Palestinians? OK

 

What do you expect Iran to do here exactly? Give money to what group? And start a war with Pakistan at their border in the middle of a war with Israel and potentially America for this past year? 

I swear if you guys stopped arguing for the sake of arguing and though before speaking it would make things a million times better.

 

I'm showing these posts so people can make dua for these innocent people who just got slaugthered and spread awareness for this and all you whiny fools do is swarm this post like snakes and vent your anger on Iran, have some shame man, do something better rather than turning this post into a debate on what massacres get the most attention as you guys always seem to do and pop out of nowhere.

 

Atleast do something useful like you did years ago by showing a donation link maybe or something of this sorts instead of arguing and turning this forum into another toxic forum on which massacres get more attention.

None of us has honestly the energy for this garbage and nonsense.

Edited November 23, 2024 by mahmood8726

[Jaabir]

28 minutes ago, mahmood8726 said:

Lebanese people, yemenis, iraqis are Palestinians? OK

 

What do you expect Iran to do here exactly? Give money to what group? And start a war with Pakistan at their border in the middle of a war with Israel and potentially America for this past year? 

I swear if you guys stopped arguing for the sake of arguing and though before speaking it would make things a million times better.

 

I'm showing these posts so people can make dua for these innocent people who just got slaugthered and spread awareness for this and all you whiny fools do is swarm this post like snakes and vent your anger on Iran, have some shame man, do something better rather than turning this post into a debate on what massacres get the most attention as you guys always seem to do and pop out of nowhere.

 

Atleast do something useful like you did years ago by showing a donation link maybe or something of this sorts instead of arguing and turning this forum into another toxic forum on which massacres get more attention.

None of us has honestly the energy for this garbage and nonsense.

 

You absolute jaahil. My entire life I've donated to Palestine until 2021, when I left this cancer of Rahbarism and decided to donate to the oppressed Shi'as of Afghanistan. This past Ramadan, I gave my largest ever zakat al-Fitra to Parachinar because the majority of Shi'as today neglect their own Shi'as and would rather die for some sort of "Western-Zionist holy jihad". Instead I decided to give preference to the followers of the Ahlul bayt. When there's a murderer loose in your neighbourhood, you don't leave your own wife and kids behind to save your neighbours from the murderer.

If the most you can do when Shi'as are attacked in Pakistan is ask "what can Iran do here exactly?" YOU are the one that has their hands soaked in blood alongside the killers. When Iran can form militias to be used as cannon fodder from poor Shi'a areas Pakistan or Afghanistan to defend their suicidal agenda in Syria, they can't help when they're getting attacked on their own land? You think they should take care of Pakistan's national interests NOW, not when they were taking Shi'a youth from Pakistan to die in Syria? What about when these Shi'as returned from Syria, only to get abducted in the night by ISI and are still today rotting in Pakistani jails because they fought in Syria. Are they not worth anything to Iran now?

May Allah curse the Shi'as who neglect their own oppressed. We already saw this in 2021, when they cheered as the Taliban took over, because "America lost haha". When Shi'as are attacked, they will have a million "we condemn" or "country xyz must defend Shi'as" statements, but when it comes to Palestine, they will recruit tens of thousands of poor Shi'as from every corner of the world.

This jaahil wants a donation link from me so he can do something AFTER Shi'as are killed. I am holding IRI accountable, as the only Shi'a country strong enough today, to be able to do something BEFORE Shi'as are killed.

[mahmood8726]

1 hour ago, Jaabir said:

 

You absolute jaahil. My entire life I've donated to Palestine until 2021, when I left this cancer of Rahbarism and decided to donate to the oppressed Shi'as of Afghanistan. This past Ramadan, I gave my largest ever zakat al-Fitra to Parachinar because the majority of Shi'as today neglect their own Shi'as and would rather die for some sort of "Western-Zionist holy jihad".

Congratulations, I pointed out you gave donation links, however, if you want to come and whine about Iran, go ahead and make some sub about it instead of turning every sub about paranchinar into a stupid debate on which group of people gets the most attention from shias. Call me a jahil all you want for pointing out the toxicity of this constant whining from guys like the guy before you. 

1 hour ago, Jaabir said:

When Iran can form militias to be used as cannon fodder from poor Shi'a areas Pakistan or Afghanistan to defend their suicidal agenda in Syria, they can't help when they're getting attacked on their own land?

There is news of the zainabiyoun group that you just called out, that has an allegience with iran, burned a bunch of takfiri terrorists in Bagan by attacking their gatherings as a retaliation for what these takfiri terrorists did. So they are attacking them in Pakistan. 

1 hour ago, Jaabir said:

May Allah curse the Shi'as who neglect their own oppressed. We already saw this in 2021, when they cheered as the Taliban took over, because "America lost haha".

Most people here condemned the taliban and didn't cheer them.

 

And I asked what can iran do, because you litterally mentionned iran doing nothing.

1 hour ago, Jaabir said:

When Shi'as are attacked, they will have a million "we condemn" or "country xyz must defend Shi'as" statements, but when it comes to Palestine, they will recruit tens of thousands of poor Shi'as from every corner of the world.

Lebanon, yemen, iraq and Syria are not Palestine, the only reason I'm even speaking to you and im not dead is because I'm not under idf occupation in southern lebanon. But go on and keep being a jahil whilst accusing others of being jahils.

1 hour ago, Jaabir said:

This jaahil wants a donation link from me so he can do something AFTER Shi'as are killed. I am holding IRI accountable, as the only Shi'a country strong enough today, to be able to do something BEFORE Shi'as are killed.

Shias in that area don't deserve any donation after this massacre? Stop this stupid whining and get a grip of yourself.

My entire village and people have been slaugthered by the idf and I have to worry constantly if they're about to kill more of my familly members after they killed a few. Most people having their families slaugthered won't even have the time to think for other people, yet here you are whining and calling me a jahil for pointing out what you and panzer are doing here is pure toxicity. Get a grip, seriously and stop this incessant whining.

I'd suggest making a diffirent forum asking people why you think they're being hypocritical or why you think Iran is hypocritical for this, instead of turning another paranchinar forum into a toxic debate. This is stupid. 

Edited November 23, 2024 by mahmood8726

[Irfani313]

37 minutes ago, Jaabir said:

 

You absolute jaahil. My entire life I've donated to Palestine until 2021, when I left this cancer of Rahbarism and decided to donate to the oppressed Shi'as of Afghanistan. This past Ramadan, I gave my largest ever zakat al-Fitra to Parachinar because the majority of Shi'as today neglect their own Shi'as and would rather die for some sort of "Western-Zionist holy jihad". Instead I decided to give preference to the followers of the Ahlul bayt. When there's a murderer loose in your neighbourhood, you don't leave your own wife and kids behind to save your neighbours from the murderer.

If the most you can do when Shi'as are attacked in Pakistan is ask "what can Iran do here exactly?" YOU are the one that has their hands soaked in blood alongside the killers. When Iran can form militias to be used as cannon fodder from poor Shi'a areas Pakistan or Afghanistan to defend their suicidal agenda in Syria, they can't help when they're getting attacked on their own land? You think they should take care of Pakistan's national interests NOW, not when they were taking Shi'a youth from Pakistan to die in Syria? What about when these Shi'as returned from Syria, only to get abducted in the night by ISI and are still today rotting in Pakistani jails because they fought in Syria. Are they not worth anything to Iran now?

May Allah curse the Shi'as who neglect their own oppressed. We already saw this in 2021, when they cheered as the Taliban took over, because "America lost haha". When Shi'as are attacked, they will have a million "we condemn" or "country xyz must defend Shi'as" statements, but when it comes to Palestine, they will recruit tens of thousands of poor Shi'as from every corner of the world.

This jaahil wants a donation link from me so he can do something AFTER Shi'as are killed. I am holding IRI accountable, as the only Shi'a country strong enough today, to be able to do something BEFORE Shi'as are killed.

Dear Brother/sister, either you are misinformed or …

This Parachinar problem has been out there since the USSR, USA, Saudi, and Paki Army & Wahabi terrorism days of 1970s. These Shia folks there have been resisting and persevering for last 40 years, they make their own ammo, and their own firearms to certain extent, but four decades of resistance against the hegemons of Paki Army and Saudi funded terror mongers doesn’t come only from the homemade arms. 
 

IRI has definitely been assisting them since the days of marhoom Ay. Khomeni, and the biggest proof of it is that these people are diehard IRI fans among all Pakistani Shias. Truth is, IRI has never failed them even when they are landlocked and supplies are harder to be transported. 
 

Pakistani shias from the mainland on the other hand have definitely failed them more than anything. Until 10 years ago, there wasn’t a concerted effort to assist parachinear Shias from the mainland Shias, although in past 10+ yrs, the mainland Shias have started some organized efforts to assist the Parachinar Shias. 
 

Open your eyes my gullible Shia brothers, the temple of Satan’s violent assaults on Shias in Bint Jubail, in Hazarjat, in Sistan Baluchistan, in Parachinar, in Samarra, in Quetta, in Kadhmiya, in Sayeda Zainab Dimishq, and then onwards in Karachi, in Beirut, in Dera Ghazi Khan, in Kabul, in Dammam, in Bahrain, in Nigeria are all connected and are meant to bleed you, break you, frustrate you, and make you hopeless.
 

Your post above is the symptom of this powerlessness which causes this hopelessness, where a person ends up accusing their allies, their siblings, even their parents. It’s easy to yell and froth at IRI than to slap a paki army major under whose watch this all happened. 

Learn one thing, Satan templers always hit where it’s weak, and hit harder when they get hit harder. So when beaten in Dimishq, the answer comes in Parachinar. When beaten in Junoob Leb., the answer comes in Kabul, when crushed in Sistan Baluchistan, the massacres come in Dammam, and so on. 
 

So please get back to your senses, and stick to your flock. Imam (atf) doesn’t need us to think like those flakey Kufis, He wants us to be wiser, informed, and glued to our masses. 

[mahmood8726]

11 minutes ago, Irfani313 said:

Dear Brother/sister, either you are misinformed or …

This Parachinar problem has been out there since the USSR, USA, Saudi, and Paki Army & Wahabi terrorism days of 1970s. These Shia folks there have been resisting and persevering for last 40 years, they make their own ammo, and their own firearms to certain extent, but four decades of resistance against the hegemons of Paki Army and Saudi funded terror mongers doesn’t come only from the homemade arms. 
 

IRI has definitely been assisting them since the days of marhoom Ay. Khomeni, and the biggest proof of it is that these people are diehard IRI fans among all Pakistani Shias. Truth is, IRI has never failed them even when they are landlocked and supplies are harder to be transported. 
 

Pakistani shias from the mainland on the other hand have definitely failed them more than anything. Until 10 years ago, there wasn’t a concerted effort to assist parachinear Shias from the mainland Shias, although in past 10+ yrs, the mainland Shias have started some organized efforts to assist the Parachinar Shias. 
 

Open your eyes my gullible Shia brothers, the temple of Satan’s violent assaults on Shias in Bint Jubail, in Hazarjat, in Sistan Baluchistan, in Parachinar, in Samarra, in Quetta, in Kadhmiya, in Sayeda Zainab Dimishq, and then onwards in Karachi, in Beirut, in Dera Ghazi Khan, in Kabul, in Dammam, in Bahrain, in Nigeria are all connected and are meant to bleed you, break you, frustrate you, and make you hopeless.
 

Your post above is the symptom of this powerlessness which causes this hopelessness, where a person ends up accusing their allies, their siblings, even their parents. It’s easy to yell and froth at IRI than to slap a paki army major under whose watch this all happened. 

Learn one thing, Satan templers always hit where it’s weak, and hit harder when they get hit harder. So when beaten in Dimishq, the answer comes in Parachinar. When beaten in Junoob Leb., the answer comes in Kabul, when crushed in Sistan Baluchistan, the massacres come in Dammam, and so on. 
 

So please get back to your senses, and stick to your flock. Imam (atf) doesn’t need us to think like those flakey Kufis, He wants us to be wiser, informed, and glued to our masses. 

Unfortunatley this will turn into another toxic debate on most shias being hypocritical or iran not doing anything for the dozen time when we could easily have dedicated forums just for this topic. I wished this forum would stick to just posting news on paranchinar, spread awareness about their situation, maybe have a donation link to the people who have been badly affected by this barbarity, so that people who haven't had the chance to think much about them due to difficult circumstances of their own can donate to them, but here we are having another debate on this. 

Its a major problem in shiachat to deviate from the subject and turn forums into toxic debates, I've been guilty of it too on other subjects. 

Edited November 23, 2024 by mahmood8726

[Jaabir]

No point arguing with people who can't even spell Parachinar correctly or think saying "Paki Army" is acceptable. Sho baddak min hon

IRI teaches nothing but death and destruction, of our beloved Shi'as. Shi'as today have only two, separate choices: follow the Ahlul bayt or follow a suicidal movement that will lead the pure Shi'a of Muhammad to their death.

Edited November 23, 2024 by Jaabir

[mahmood8726]

22 minutes ago, Jaabir said:

No point arguing with people who can't even spell Parachinar correctly

Well I'm lebanese, I told you I'm focusing on my country instead of Pakistan as a priority, not everyone has a huge heart to focus on other people at the same time. So I'm bound to get the names wrong. Maybe you have a bigger heart than mine to remember.

22 minutes ago, Jaabir said:

IRI teaches nothing but death and destruction, of our beloved Shi'as. Shi'as today have only two, separate choices: follow the Ahlul bayt or follow a suicidal movement that will lead the pure Shi'a of Muhammad to their death.

Ok, were all following a suicidal movment who will cause shia islam to dissapear, shokran innak you didn't continue this toxic debate. Yalla, were all idiots and jahilis, khalas. 

Edited November 23, 2024 by mahmood8726

[Diaz]

Since no one linked any link for donation, I will link one below. Zahra trust is on the ground and doing the needful. 
 

https://zahratrust.com/united/

[mahmood8726]

10 hours ago, mahmood8726 said:

Congratulations, I pointed out you gave donation links, however, if you want to come and whine about Iran, go ahead and make some sub about it instead of turning every sub about paranchinar into a stupid debate on which group of people gets the most attention from shias. Call me a jahil all you want for pointing out the toxicity of this constant whining from guys like the guy before you. 

There is news of the zainabiyoun group that you just called out, that has an allegience with iran, burned a bunch of takfiri terrorists in Bagan by attacking their gatherings as a retaliation for what these takfiri terrorists did. So they are attacking them in Pakistan. 

Most people here condemned the taliban and didn't cheer them.

 

And I asked what can iran do, because you litterally mentionned iran doing nothing.

Lebanon, yemen, iraq and Syria are not Palestine, the only reason I'm even speaking to you and im not dead is because I'm not under idf occupation in southern lebanon. But go on and keep being a jahil whilst accusing others of being jahils.

Shias in that area don't deserve any donation after this massacre? Stop this stupid whining and get a grip of yourself.

My entire village and people have been slaugthered by the idf and I have to worry constantly if they're about to kill more of my familly members after they killed a few. Most people having their families slaugthered won't even have the time to think for other people, yet here you are whining and calling me a jahil for pointing out what you and panzer are doing here is pure toxicity. Get a grip, seriously and stop this incessant whining.

I'd suggest making a diffirent forum asking people why you think they're being hypocritical or why you think Iran is hypocritical for this, instead of turning another paranchinar forum into a toxic debate. This is stupid. 

Ok, the zainabioun claim was fake news I just discovered, I apologize for disseminating this false news. There are shias in Pakistan who are armed, but theyre not the zainabyoun. 

Edited November 23, 2024 by mahmood8726

[Meedy]

Brother Jaabir

I completely understand your frustration and anger. It hurts seeing what's happening. It not getting the attention. I understand you feel like they are being forgotten.

Some situations/areas/locations can very difficult and complex to provide assistance. The governments in some of these locations are happy to recieve support from Iran which can make a little bit easier. 

Whereas Pakistan or Even all previous Afghan governments would make it very difficult to provide any little support for the shia because they would end up seeing as a threat because are under heavy influence by extremists/Western back groups.

It's not black and white.

There are things we don't know. 

No need to name calling or being disrespectful.

Brother calm down.

[mahmood8726]

recite this duah for the shias fighting the takfiri terrorists in Pakistan.

 

 

[Diaz]

3 hours ago, mahmood8726 said:

recite this duah for the shias fighting the takfiri terrorists in Pakistan.

 

 

—  BREAKING: After more than 40 Shia Muslims were killed by Sunni terrorists in Kurram district in the Khybar Pakhtunkhwa province of Pakistan yesterday, local armed Shia youths from Parachinar captured the Sunni-majority town of Bagan, killing dozens of Sunnis in return

 

Tragically, the ongoing sectarian conflict is being escalated by both sides, blaming each other for starting the violence. Tribal conflicts also play a big role in the escalation of the violence.

 

Iran has expressed condolances to the people of Pakistan, and called on preserving the unity of the Muslims.

 

@Middle_East_Spectator

 

Basically, Sunnis attacked a random Shia pilgrim caravan, killing dozens, and then yesterday night the Shias attacked random Sunnis inside Bagan. Shias are calling this a 'Shia genocide' and blaming the Sunnis for what they call 'anti-Shia violence', while Sunnis claim that the Iranian-backed Zainabioon Brigade (which is not even active in Pakistan) is comitting massacres against Sunnis. Truly, a [Edited Out]show from both sides. From sources on the ground, I hear that the reasons for the violence are 99% tribal.

Edited November 23, 2024 by Diaz

[AbdusSibtayn]

29 minutes ago, Diaz said:

—  BREAKING: After more than 40 Shia Muslims were killed by Sunni terrorists in Kurram district in the Khybar Pakhtunkhwa province of Pakistan yesterday, local armed Shia youths from Parachinar captured the Sunni-majority town of Bagan, killing dozens of Sunnis in return

 

Tragically, the ongoing sectarian conflict is being escalated by both sides, blaming each other for starting the violence. Tribal conflicts also play a big role in the escalation of the violence.

 

Iran has expressed condolances to the people of Pakistan, and called on preserving the unity of the Muslims.

 

@Middle_East_Spectator

 

Basically, Sunnis attacked a random Shia pilgrim caravan, killing dozens, and then yesterday night the Shias attacked random Sunnis inside Bagan. Shias are calling this a 'Shia genocide' and blaming the Sunnis for what they call 'anti-Shia violence', while Sunnis claim that the Iranian-backed Zainabioon Brigade (which is not even active in Pakistan) is comitting massacres against Sunnis. Truly, a [Edited Out]show from both sides. From sources on the ground, I hear that the reasons for the violence are 99% tribal.

What a colossal lump of colo-rectal evacuation this Middle East Spectator guy is! 

Where is his proof that the Shi'a youth are massacring Sunni civilians? Is this muck getting his news from the al-Qaeda or the TTP?

So Shi'a militias hitting back against murderous, state-backed terrorist mobs sheltering in towns is equal to these nasibi sub-humans massacring women and children? 

Yeah, the classic victim blaming tactic of equating the violence of the oppressed with the oppressor's and then cry 'BoTh SIDES bAd'!!!, how convenient, isn't it? 

And any dim-witted semi-literal muddlehead who cries 'bUt iT's tRiBaL LaNd DiSpUtE!!!! ' deserves to be laughed at, ridiculed, bullied and trolled till he deletes all his online presence and goes off the grid completely; these slimy mucks and gutter scum have no idea what is going on in the region for the past 4 decades and yet wants to have a say and play 'HuRr iT's bOtH SiDeS BaD DuRr'. 

Most of us would do well to remember how big a piece of guano this Middle East Spectator guy is, it's him who had spread the fake news about Iran suspending flights to launch aerial operations against Israel back in October, and when called out he had doubled down on his lies like the pretentious douche that he is; but it is today that I see how big an intellectually impotent mukhannath he is. Maybe all the cyberbullying took a toll on his walnut-sized brain. 

Talk about being tone deaf; what this jaahil is saying is downright insensitive towards the victims of this violence. 

Edited November 23, 2024 by AbdusSibtayn

[AbdusSibtayn]

I'm just angry, apologies if I went overboard and yelled too much but when some misinformed dimwit tries to brand this state-sponsored genocide as 'tribal disputes', or claims that the Shi'a in the region somehow brought it upon themselves, I lose my cool. 

I am just too agitated to think straight. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

5 hours ago, mahmood8726 said:

Ok, the zainabioun claim was fake news I just discovered, I apologize for disseminating this false news. There are shias in Pakistan who are armed, but theyre not the zainabyoun. 

Pashtun tribesmen traditionally keep arms at home, including firearms. They have a very martial cultural ethos, and the Shi'a in the region are mostly Turi and Bangash Pashtuns, with a few Hazara families. 

Especially since the nasibi Afghan 'jihad' of the 80s , the Shi'a Pashtuns in the region have known the nuisance of the nasibi terrorists who were imported here by the Pakistani Army and the ISI, and know that it pays to keep firearms and ammunition handy. 

They are brave ferocious fighters and will persevere against the nasibi onslaught inshallah. Some of them have also received military training. But it is the involvement of the state and the nasibi establishment which makes it an unequal fight. 

[Diaz]

51 minutes ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

What a colossal lump of colo-rectal evacuation this Middle East Spectator guy is! 

Where is his proof that the Shi'a youth are massacring Sunni civilians? Is this muck getting his news from the al-Qaeda or the TTP?

So Shi'a militias hitting back against murderous, state-backed terrorist mobs sheltering in towns is equal to these nasibi sub-humans massacring women and children? 

Yeah, the classic victim blaming tactic of equating the violence of the oppressed with the oppressor's and then cry 'BoTh SIDES bAd'!!!, how convenient, isn't it? 

And any dim-witted semi-literal muddlehead who cries 'bUt iT's tRiBaL LaNd DiSpUtE!!!! ' deserves to be laughed at, ridiculed, bullied and trolled till he deletes all his online presence and goes off the grid completely; these slimy mucks and gutter scum have no idea what is going on in the region for the past 4 decades and yet wants to have a say and play 'HuRr iT's bOtH SiDeS BaD DuRr'. 

Most of us would do well to remember how big a piece of guano this Middle East Spectator guy is, it's him who had spread the fake news about Iran suspending flights to launch aerial operations against Israel back in October, and when called out he had doubled down on his lies like the pretentious douche that he is; but it is today that I see how big an intellectually impotent mukhannath he is. Maybe all the cyberbullying took a toll on his walnut-sized brain. 

Talk about being tone deaf; what this jaahil is saying is downright insensitive towards the victims of this violence. 

—  Admin's opinion on the Pakistan sectarian conflict:

 

It's very easy for me as a Shia to simply blame this violence on the Sunnis, but that would be wrong and close-minded.

 

Yes, a Sunni terrorist group started it by attacking an innocent convoy of Shias, but that does not mean Shias can enter a random Sunni village, burn it, and kill their inhabitants in return. Two wrongs don't make a right.

 

I am seeing far too many people simply siding with their own sect, Sunnis siding with the Sunnis, and Shias siding with the Shias, without accepting any nuance about the entire situation.

 

It's either 'OMG, Shia Genocide happening in Parachinar!' or 'OMG, Iran-backed Shia groups are massacring Sunnis!'. There seems to be no critical thinking at all.

 

Sometimes, BOTH sides are wrong. Just because your sect does something, does not make it right, and it does not make your narrative infallible.

 

@Middle_East_Spectator

[mahmood8726]

1 hour ago, AbdusSibtayn said:

What a colossal lump of colo-rectal evacuation this Middle East Spectator guy is! 

Where is his proof that the Shi'a youth are massacring Sunni civilians? Is this muck getting his news from the al-Qaeda or the TTP?

So Shi'a militias hitting back against murderous, state-backed terrorist mobs sheltering in towns is equal to these nasibi sub-humans massacring women and children? 

Yeah, the classic victim blaming tactic of equating the violence of the oppressed with the oppressor's and then cry 'BoTh SIDES bAd'!!!, how convenient, isn't it? 

And any dim-witted semi-literal muddlehead who cries 'bUt iT's tRiBaL LaNd DiSpUtE!!!! ' deserves to be laughed at, ridiculed, bullied and trolled till he deletes all his online presence and goes off the grid completely; these slimy mucks and gutter scum have no idea what is going on in the region for the past 4 decades and yet wants to have a say and play 'HuRr iT's bOtH SiDeS BaD DuRr'. 

Most of us would do well to remember how big a piece of guano this Middle East Spectator guy is, it's him who had spread the fake news about Iran suspending flights to launch aerial operations against Israel back in October, and when called out he had doubled down on his lies like the pretentious douche that he is; but it is today that I see how big an intellectually impotent mukhannath he is. Maybe all the cyberbullying took a toll on his walnut-sized brain. 

Talk about being tone deaf; what this jaahil is saying is downright insensitive towards the victims of this violence. 

You beat me to it man, I was angry when I read his telegram post...

 

So what I said was true, but it was not "zainabyoun", but some local shia millitias most probably funded by Iran covertly.

 

But his telegram post pissed me off, what proof is there that they butchered innocent civilians other than allegations????

 

If they did kill civilians, it is wrong, but they're an opressed people, has he not learned anything from what hamas did on oct 7? If this is true, this is no diffirence than oct 7, why is he being so harsh on these opressed shia millitias? 

 

I swear he should stop talking sometimes, there is times where this guy says genuinely stupid things. 

[mahmood8726]

29 minutes ago, Diaz said:

—  Admin's opinion on the Pakistan sectarian conflict:

 

It's very easy for me as a Shia to simply blame this violence on the Sunnis, but that would be wrong and close-minded.

 

Yes, a Sunni terrorist group started it by attacking an innocent convoy of Shias, but that does not mean Shias can enter a random Sunni village, burn it, and kill their inhabitants in return. Two wrongs don't make a right.

 

I am seeing far too many people simply siding with their own sect, Sunnis siding with the Sunnis, and Shias siding with the Shias, without accepting any nuance about the entire situation.

 

It's either 'OMG, Shia Genocide happening in Parachinar!' or 'OMG, Iran-backed Shia groups are massacring Sunnis!'. There seems to be no critical thinking at all.

 

Sometimes, BOTH sides are wrong. Just because your sect does something, does not make it right, and it does not make your narrative infallible.

 

@Middle_East_Spectator

This argument from him is awful, there is clearly an opressed side here, he's trying to paint it as if both sides are on equal grounds. Sometimes he has extreemly horrible takes. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

1 hour ago, Diaz said:

—  Admin's opinion on the Pakistan sectarian conflict:

 

It's very easy for me as a Shia to simply blame this violence on the Sunnis, but that would be wrong and close-minded.

 

Yes, a Sunni terrorist group started it by attacking an innocent convoy of Shias, but that does not mean Shias can enter a random Sunni village, burn it, and kill their inhabitants in return. Two wrongs don't make a right.

 

I am seeing far too many people simply siding with their own sect, Sunnis siding with the Sunnis, and Shias siding with the Shias, without accepting any nuance about the entire situation.

 

It's either 'OMG, Shia Genocide happening in Parachinar!' or 'OMG, Iran-backed Shia groups are massacring Sunnis!'. There seems to be no critical thinking at all.

 

Sometimes, BOTH sides are wrong. Just because your sect does something, does not make it right, and it does not make your narrative infallible.

 

@Middle_East_Spectator

He's no Shi'a, he's just an ethnic Iranian culturally Shi'a diasporoid living in the West who is just as Shi'a as Joe Biden is Catholic, and doesn't know how to tell apart a peach from a donkey's rear, much less being aware about what's happening in Parachinar. 

Just to put things into perspective and to educate this smug, slimy victim-blaming cretin-

1. The tensions began when the nasibi terrorists landed in the region for their nasibi 'Jihad' and demanded that the local tribesmen allow them unrestricted use of their lands as military camps. The local Shi'a Pashtuns naturally and rightfully did not want to become collateral damage between the Gringo-Nasibis and the Soviets, and refused. 

2. The slain nasibi Zia ul- Haqq, Pakistan's military dictator and Zio-Gringo lickspittle, began to colonize the Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa with nasibi Deobandi madrassa graduates so as to export them to neighbouring Afghanistan to fight alongside the nasibi terrorist 'mujahids'. These nasibi infiltrators began harassing the local Shi'a. Tensions grew. 

3. Enter the Taliban. They know the strategic importance of the region given the porous Durand Line between Pakistan and Afghanistan. They want to take over the 'Parrot's Beak' region. They sense that the Shi'a are a trouble and roadblock. Their patrons in the Pak army agree. They instigate the local Sunni tribesmen, rake up land disputes between Shi'a and Sunni tribes. Violence begins. Shi'a fight back. 

4. Cut to November 2024. The nasibi terrorists attack a Shi'a pilgrim convoy to Mashhad and lay siege to Shi'a villages. The local Shi'a tribesmen come out to defend their homes and hit back. The nasibi rats scurry back and hide in Sunni majority towns. The Shi'a defense pursues them. They begin crying about how the Shi'a are entering cities, burning people alive and killing Sunni civilians in cold blood- there is NO SOURCE for this claim except the nasibi propaganda itself, while the Shi'a casualties are publicly available for everyone to see DESPITE THE STATE'S MEDIA CRACKDOWN. 

And then this ape running his chop shop of a telegram channel crawls out and starts hollering 'bOtH SiDeS bAd, RiSe AbOvE sEcT, muhh yoonity pweez, look what a huge galaxybrain I am!' like a baboon, totally unaware of the conflict and its history. 

Yes, I don't know enough to say social media was a mistake, but giving it to this semi-literate, muddle-headed primate was certainly one. 

Nobody wants his self-righteous moral grandstanding, pontificating and virtue signalling, certainly not the Shi'a of Parachinar. He can take it and shove it up the same place from where he drops his [EDITED OUT] takes on his circus of a telegram channel. 

Sorry but not sorry. 

[mahmood8726]

https://t.me/thewarroom005/12816?single

 

These are the two videos circulating. They are not proof that the shias killed any innocents. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

35 minutes ago, mahmood8726 said:

https://t.me/thewarroom005/12816?single

 

These are the two videos circulating. They are not proof that the shias killed any innocents. 

That could just be anyone lol. 

And where exactly are the people burned alive and killed in cold blood in the video? 

All I see is men with guns celebratory firing against the background of blaze in what looks like a conflict zone. 

Or maybe the nawasib are shell-shocked because they weren't expecting the Shi'a to hit back and were hoping that they'll take the massacre lying low, outrage for some days, hold some rallies and majlises and go back to business like they do every time. They were laughing after they blew up the bus. Now they're laughing at the other side of their mouths. 

The sooner the Shi'a learn that the language of black eyes and bloody noses is the only language that these sub human fiends understand, the better. 

[AbdusSibtayn]

1 hour ago, mahmood8726 said:

This argument from him is awful, there is clearly an opressed side here, he's trying to paint it as if both sides are on equal grounds. Sometimes he has extreemly horrible takes. 

After 'Do YoU ConDeMn Khhhhamasss', 'Do you condemn armed Shi'a thugs' just dropped. 

[Eddie Mecca]

A Khorasani branch of the Resistance Axis needs to be formed...push back is needed against the Najdi brand of "Islam" in Central Asia and South Asia...poor Iran has to singly do everything and carry the responsibility of the entire Muslim world on its shoulders