Pager that is used by Hezbollah fighters got exploded

[Diaz]

Renewal attack but this time telecom devices is getting exploded. May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) curse them. 
 

https://www.instagram.com/p/DAD8HuTAThE/?igsh=MWl6amltZjdqeWhtYw==

[mahmood8726]

One of them blew up at a funeral. 

 

https://t.me/bintjbeilnews/107077

 

Reports are also comming out of solar energy power systems blowing up. 

[Diaz]

A car got exploded too, some said laptops are getting exploded too. This is insane.

[Diaz]

3 got martyred and 100+ injured from the explosion today. 

[123SlaveOfAllah]

Possible invasion of Lebanon coming?

Gallant (la) was saying time running out to deal with Hezbollah 

Edited September 18 by 123SlaveOfAllah

[Diaz]

1 minute ago, 123SlaveOfAllah said:

Possible invasion of Lebanon coming?

Gallant (la) was saying time running out to deal with Hezbollah 

Inshallah no but if they did, they will be the sufferer. 

[Diaz]

2 hours ago, Diaz said:

3 got martyred and 100+ injured from the explosion today. 

14 martyrs and 450+ injured from today’s explosion 

[Abu Hadi]

The most likely thing is that their spy network got discovered, so they blew these devices up to hide the evidence. It doesn't matter much though, Hezb can do forensic analysis, and they're pretty good at it. They can find out what happened. 

What we know so far, according to the info I have been hearing is that the devices were intercepted en route to Lebanon and were shipped to a third country, most likely Hungary. The devices were intercepted and additional hardware was placed in them that allowed Zionists to intercept the signals and communications from these devices. In addition, explosives were planted inside the devices (commonly known as a 'kill switch') that would blow up the device when a certain radio frequency was sent to it (or most likely a series of frequencies). There were other devices that were modified in this way, i.e. the laptops and walkie talkies. Then the devices were sent to their intended destination. This is called a 'man in the middle' operation.

The kill switch was most likely to destroy evidence of the network and make it harder for Hezb to trace the origin of the modifications. It is unlikely that it was an 'attack' in the traditional sense. From what I heard, these devices were only the newest ones that Hezb had (about 5% of their devices) and this network and the modifications were discovered rather quickly, so probably their operational security was not compromised, at least not on a wide scale.

What will most likely happen next is that they will trace down all those individuals (in Hungary and maybe other places) and they will take revenge for the blood of those who were killed. Blood for blood. Those 'contractors' will probably curse the day they ever agreed to work with the Zionists, I am guessing. If I were one of those contractors I would be worried. Hezb is know to be the best in the world at tracing back spying operations. Those unsophisticated contractors don't stand a chance, most likely. Again, this is based on what I heard and we are still discovering things at this point. 

The solution for the situation is fairly simple. The newer devices have batteries that are 'hard wired' into the device so they can't really be powered off. The device has to be powered on to receive the 'kill signal'. So they are now using only the older devices where you can remove the battery, so even if the signal is sent, it won't be received and the device won't blow up. So once the batteries are removed, you can then check the device for this extra hardware and explosive safely. I'm pretty sure this is what they are doing now. 

Also, it's possible that the assasination of Fouad Shukr a few weeks ago is connected to this. After this assasination, they probably started examining all the communication devices they were using and discovered the spying hardware forcing the Israelis to use the 'kill switch' and destroy the network.  I haven't heard this anywhere yet, it's just speculation but I think its rational speculation. 

P.S. for those who know about electronics, yes they might have also put a capacitor in the circuit to store a temporary charge to activate the device to receive the signal, but that is pretty easy to find also. I doubt they did it that way, as it would probably have been detected right away. 

Also, on another note, this is why almost all phones that are sold today have batteries which are hard wired into the phone so you can't remove them easily. This is because probably all governments use phones to spy on their citizens. The US government included. They want to be able to send a signal to the phone to turn on without the owner knowing about it. If you don't want to be spied on, get a phone where you can remove the battery. 

Edited September 18 by Abu Hadi

[Dreamcatcher]

1 hour ago, Abu Hadi said:

The most likely thing is that their spy network got discovered, so they blew these devices up to hide the evidence. It doesn't matter much though, Hezb can do forensic analysis, and they're pretty good at it. They can find out what happened. 

What we know so far, according to the info I have been hearing is that the devices were intercepted en route to Lebanon and were shipped to a third country, most likely Hungary. The devices were intercepted and additional hardware was placed in them that allowed Zionists to intercept the signals and communications from these devices. In addition, explosives were planted inside the devices (commonly known as a 'kill switch') that would blow up the device when a certain radio frequency was sent to it (or most likely a series of frequencies). There were other devices that were modified in this way, i.e. the laptops and walkie talkies. Then the devices were sent to their intended destination. This is called a 'man in the middle' operation.

The kill switch was most likely to destroy evidence of the network and make it harder for Hezb to trace the origin of the modifications. It is unlikely that it was an 'attack' in the traditional sense. From what I heard, these devices were only the newest ones that Hezb had (about 5% of their devices) and this network and the modifications were discovered rather quickly, so probably their operational security was not compromised, at least not on a wide scale.

What will most likely happen next is that they will trace down all those individuals (in Hungary and maybe other places) and they will take revenge for the blood of those who were killed. Blood for blood. Those 'contractors' will probably curse the day they ever agreed to work with the Zionists, I am guessing. If I were one of those contractors I would be worried. Hezb is know to be the best in the world at tracing back spying operations. Those unsophisticated contractors don't stand a chance, most likely. Again, this is based on what I heard and we are still discovering things at this point. 

The solution for the situation is fairly simple. The newer devices have batteries that are 'hard wired' into the device so they can't really be powered off. The device has to be powered on to receive the 'kill signal'. So they are now using only the older devices where you can remove the battery, so even if the signal is sent, it won't be received and the device won't blow up. So once the batteries are removed, you can then check the device for this extra hardware and explosive safely. I'm pretty sure this is what they are doing now. 

Also, it's possible that the assasination of Fouad Shukr a few weeks ago is connected to this. After this assasination, they probably started examining all the communication devices they were using and discovered the spying hardware forcing the Israelis to use the 'kill switch' and destroy the network.  I haven't heard this anywhere yet, it's just speculation but I think its rational speculation. 

P.S. for those who know about electronics, yes they might have also put a capacitor in the circuit to store a temporary charge to activate the device to receive the signal, but that is pretty easy to find also. I doubt they did it that way, as it would probably have been detected right away. 

Also, on another note, this is why almost all phones that are sold today have batteries which are hard wired into the phone so you can't remove them easily. This is because probably all governments use phones to spy on their citizens. The US government included. They want to be able to send a signal to the phone to turn on without the owner knowing about it. If you don't want to be spied on, get a phone where you can remove the battery. 

Many theories going around.

'Man in the middle' operation, intercepting the devices while they are shipped from manufacturer, altered and then routed however would have delayed the shipment and raised alarms unless everything was preplanned and device swaps were already in place. This looks more like alteration done at the manufacturer level or the supply chain to that manufacturer. It wouldn't be that hard to do. You can purchase an entire supply chain OR a small manufacturing company licensed to do such work and alter it to your requirement when you have the budget to do it. 

If the devices were discovered then these would not have been in use at the time considering reports (unconfirmed I guess) of how American Medical University Staff in Lebanon was asked to return the pagers for newer devices 10 days before the incident yesterday.

Don't point the guns at me for this one: some failures unfortunately do show up,

1. Quotes of Syed Hassan Nasrallah back from Feb being referred to, “Shut it off, bury it, put it in an iron chest and lock it up,” he said in February. “The collaborator (with the Israelis) is the cell phone in your hands, and those of your wife and your children. This cell phone is the collaborator and the killer.” 

While this is the truth i.e. you can be tracked but if this was really said in a public speech, I think it just showed the enemy what your next move is going to be?

2. Were these devices vetted and checked once it reached them before being put in use?

3. After yesterday's incident, why are they using devices which were supposedly acquired in the same time period as the pagers resulting in second day of causalities?

And lastly, while its obvious devices with internal batteries can be tracked even if they are powered off, I don't think it has to do with Government's ability to track or them being asked to enforce this rather things like having IP rated phones/thinner phones/change in battery technology with compact batteries and quick-charging/power efficient chipsets.

I think the enemy is desperate for a break since last year's initiation of Gaza massacre, from the public pressure within as well as abroad. This is why they have openly and repeatedly targeted Hezbollah and Iranian interests; hoping to steer away the pressure with new war mongering - hoping for a not so patient response for their attacks. 

Had they used these pagers while a front was open with Hezbollah, it would have produced a far more devastating effect. So yes, it does beg the question why do it now? They want escalation of the conflict. Now. 

Ofcourse, we can only put out theories. Those on ground will know the reality much better. May Allah protect them and hasten the rise of al-Qa'im (ajtf).

[Diaz]

Tomorrow sayid Hassan will speak about what happened today and yesterday, I hope at that time he explains what happened if they know and when will they avenge our Martys. 

[Diaz]

3 minutes ago, Dreamcatcher said:

Quotes of Syed Hassan Nasrallah back from Feb being referred to, “Shut it off, bury it, put it in an iron chest and lock it up,” he said in February. “The collaborator (with the Israelis) is the cell phone in your hands, and those of your wife and your children. This cell phone is the collaborator and the killer.” 

While this is the truth i.e. you can be tracked but if this was really said in a public speech, I think it just showed the enemy what your next move is going to be?

This what made me mad, I wish sayid didn’t talk about it in public. He could’ve send someone in private to tell to the fighters not to use electronic devices. 

[Abu Hadi]

18 minutes ago, Dreamcatcher said:

Many theories going around.

'Man in the middle' operation, intercepting the devices while they are shipped from manufacturer, altered and then routed however would have delayed the shipment and raised alarms unless everything was preplanned and device swaps were already in place. This looks more like alteration done at the manufacturer level or the supply chain to that manufacturer. It wouldn't be that hard to do. You can purchase an entire supply chain OR a small manufacturing company licensed to do such work and alter it to your requirement when you have the budget to do it. 

If the devices were discovered then these would not have been in use at the time considering reports (unconfirmed I guess) of how American Medical University Staff in Lebanon was asked to return the pagers for newer devices 10 days before the incident yesterday.

Don't point the guns at me for this one: some failures unfortunately do show up,

1. Quotes of Syed Hassan Nasrallah back from Feb being referred to, “Shut it off, bury it, put it in an iron chest and lock it up,” he said in February. “The collaborator (with the Israelis) is the cell phone in your hands, and those of your wife and your children. This cell phone is the collaborator and the killer.” 

While this is the truth i.e. you can be tracked but if this was really said in a public speech, I think it just showed the enemy what your next move is going to be?

2. Were these devices vetted and checked once it reached them before being put in use?

3. After yesterday's incident, why are they using devices which were supposedly acquired in the same time period as the pagers resulting in second day of causalities?

And lastly, while its obvious devices with internal batteries can be tracked even if they are powered off, I don't think it has to do with Government's ability to track or them being asked to enforce this rather things like having IP rated phones/thinner phones/change in battery technology with compact batteries and quick-charging/power efficient chipsets.

I think the enemy is desperate for a break since last year's initiation of Gaza massacre, from the public pressure within as well as abroad. This is why they have openly and repeatedly targeted Hezbollah and Iranian interests; hoping to steer away the pressure with new war mongering - hoping for a not so patient response for their attacks. 

Had they used these pagers while a front was open with Hezbollah, it would have produced a far more devastating effect. So yes, it does beg the question why do it now? They want escalation of the conflict. Now. 

Ofcourse, we can only put out theories. Those on ground will know the reality much better. May Allah protect them and hasten the rise of al-Qa'im (ajtf).

Well it's all speculation at this point. Possible and probable theories. I would be interested to hear what Sayyid Hassan says tomorrow. 

One thing though. Anyone who knows about the port in Beirut knows that a delay of a few days or even a few weeks for cargo is so common, no one would notice. Maybe in New York or Seattle they would, not in Beirut. Lol

[mahmood8726]

Important takeaway:

Israel used an important wildcard they were going to use during wartime, the were forced to use it due to hezb discovering it early. 

They detonated today again out of desperation. 

This is good and bad news. It's good news because Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) exposed them before they could have caused far more injuries had it been done in the correct time, it's bad news because thousands got injured/killed.

[mahmood8726]

6 hours ago, Dreamcatcher said:

Many theories going around.

'Man in the middle' operation, intercepting the devices while they are shipped from manufacturer, altered and then routed however would have delayed the shipment and raised alarms unless everything was preplanned and device swaps were already in place. This looks more like alteration done at the manufacturer level or the supply chain to that manufacturer. It wouldn't be that hard to do. You can purchase an entire supply chain OR a small manufacturing company licensed to do such work and alter it to your requirement when you have the budget to do it. 

If the devices were discovered then these would not have been in use at the time considering reports (unconfirmed I guess) of how American Medical University Staff in Lebanon was asked to return the pagers for newer devices 10 days before the incident yesterday.

Don't point the guns at me for this one: some failures unfortunately do show up,

1. Quotes of Syed Hassan Nasrallah back from Feb being referred to, “Shut it off, bury it, put it in an iron chest and lock it up,” he said in February. “The collaborator (with the Israelis) is the cell phone in your hands, and those of your wife and your children. This cell phone is the collaborator and the killer.” 

While this is the truth i.e. you can be tracked but if this was really said in a public speech, I think it just showed the enemy what your next move is going to be?

2. Were these devices vetted and checked once it reached them before being put in use?

3. After yesterday's incident, why are they using devices which were supposedly acquired in the same time period as the pagers resulting in second day of causalities?

And lastly, while its obvious devices with internal batteries can be tracked even if they are powered off, I don't think it has to do with Government's ability to track or them being asked to enforce this rather things like having IP rated phones/thinner phones/change in battery technology with compact batteries and quick-charging/power efficient chipsets.

I think the enemy is desperate for a break since last year's initiation of Gaza massacre, from the public pressure within as well as abroad. This is why they have openly and repeatedly targeted Hezbollah and Iranian interests; hoping to steer away the pressure with new war mongering - hoping for a not so patient response for their attacks. 

Had they used these pagers while a front was open with Hezbollah, it would have produced a far more devastating effect. So yes, it does beg the question why do it now? They want escalation of the conflict. Now. 

Ofcourse, we can only put out theories. Those on ground will know the reality much better. May Allah protect them and hasten the rise of al-Qa'im (ajtf).

No, they did it now because hezb members discovered it. 2 hezb members discovered it, the first one was killed before being able to alert his superiors and when the second hezb member found out, they blew them up.

 

Israel used their wildcard, they messed up badly, this is a blessing in disguise if we ignore the horrible casualties caused by this.

[mahmood8726]

One thing I am curious about, was all this batch for hezb? Because I saw that many civilians had them, who had nothing to do with hezb, even Christians apparently.

Edited September 19 by Hussein999

[ShiaChat Mod]

5 hours ago, Abu Hadi said:

Well it's all speculation at this point. Possible and probable theories. I would be interested to hear what Sayyid Hassan says tomorrow. 

Anyone know what time the speech is? 

[ShiaChat Mod]

12 hours ago, Hussein999 said:

One of them blew up at a funeral. 

https://t.me/bintjbeilnews/107077

 

On 9/17/2024 at 8:04 PM, Hasani Samnani said:

https://t.me/intelslava/66630

Please don't look if faint hearted or easily affected by major trauma and injuries, very gruesome pictures of our brothers and sisters,

Please do not watch those videos.   

Edited September 19 by ShiaChat Mod
Videos are too graphic, gruesome.

[Hameedeh]

2 hours ago, ShiaChat Mod said:

Please do not watch those videos.   

Agree with this. Bloody and graphic videos. I watched the long one posted by @Hasani Samnani and it showed so many men injured and I saw a man carrying a young child and among all the victims I was not sure if they were dead or not, and I had no idea how long the video would continue, so I stopped watching. The funeral video posted by @Hussein999 was very short but very graphic. Hearing the explosion and seeing the smoke, everyone running away while one man fall down to the street made my stomach upset. I don't want to watch any more videos. 

[Diaz]

3 hours ago, ShiaChat Mod said:

Anyone know what time the speech is? 

5pm (17:00) Beirut time 

Edited September 19 by Diaz

[Haji 2003]

Free ad for China

 

[Diaz]

17 minutes ago, Haji 2003 said:

Free ad for China

 

Is this accurate? Couldn’t find anything in the news

[Abu Hadi]

Speech is starting in few min

[AbdusSibtayn]

55 minutes ago, Haji 2003 said:

Free ad for China

 

This what was going to say yesterday too.... Where are the Chinese market-inundators when you need them the most!? 

Edited September 19 by AbdusSibtayn

[Gaius I. Caesar]

On 9/18/2024 at 6:45 AM, Diaz said:

What I meant brother is since majority of the people in the world are not using pager, Israeli knew the one who ordered this amount is Hezbollah. On Jan/feb this year, sayid said the resistance fighters shouldn’t use their mobile because Israeli are tracking them. After that someone from Lebanon ordered the devices

^Ironically, they would have avoided this situation if they have used mobile phones anyway. Civilians were needlessly endangered and because of Hezbollah's decision to use pagers and Mossad decided to exploit on this decision and thought the cost was worth the lives lost.

On 9/18/2024 at 12:39 AM, Gaius I. Caesar said:

Apparently, Hezbollah brought these pagers from a third party that had the license to use the Taiwanese branding, they weren't brought directly from Taipei itself. So somebody from BAC, a company in Europe, tampered and put code into these pagers to explode. I am curious as to what is or who owns BAC and I am looking for information but nothing has turned up yet.

Update: After watching a video of somebody taking apart the same pagers, I came to the realization that 1.) It is a very tight squeeze to put explosives in this particular model. The pagers wouldn't have functioned and it would have been obvious to someone that they  were tampered 2.) Lithium batteries burn and when they burn, it is extremely hot and very difficult to put out the fire caused by melting lithium, they do not explode. 3.) While possible, it is very difficult to hack pagers because someone has to physically access the firmware to rewrite the software of these pagers:

Quote

 Here's the article: https://www.thenationalnews.com/future/technology/2024/09/18/lebanon-pager-technology-hacking/#:~:text=The short answer is%2C yes,it overheat and possibly ignite.

Also from the same article:

Quote

On BAC: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cew12r5qe1ro

Quote

@AbdusSibtayn @Ashvazdanghe I don't know how biased or truthful the BBC article is but I quoted what seemed to be the most relevant information.^

[Diaz]

Not sure if this news is accurate but some journalists said American universities hospital in Beirut received an order that they must change the pager a week ago. So maybe the us have something to do with it. 

[Abu Hadi]

10 hours ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

^Ironically, they would have avoided this situation if they have used mobile phones anyway. Civilians were needlessly endangered and because of Hezbollah's decision to use pagers and Mossad decided to exploit on this decision and thought the cost was worth the lives lost.

Update: After watching a video of somebody taking apart the same pagers, I came to the realization that 1.) It is a very tight squeeze to put explosives in this particular model. The pagers wouldn't have functioned and it would have been obvious to someone that they  were tampered 2.) Lithium batteries burn and when they burn, it is extremely hot and very difficult to put out the fire caused by melting lithium, they do not explode. 3.) While possible, it is very difficult to hack pagers because someone has to physically access the firmware to rewrite the software of these pagers:

 Here's the article: https://www.thenationalnews.com/future/technology/2024/09/18/lebanon-pager-technology-hacking/#:~:text=The short answer is%2C yes,it overheat and possibly ignite.

Also from the same article:

On BAC: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cew12r5qe1ro

@AbdusSibtayn @Ashvazdanghe I don't know how biased or truthful the BBC article is but I quoted what seemed to be the most relevant information.^

Cell phones are not an option for secure communication. Cell phone signals are radio frequencies that are transmitted between cell towers. It is not easy for an individual to tap into these frequencies and place listening devices on towers but this is easy for an intelligence agency (Mossad) to do. They are experts at this. Because they know which frequencies are being used and which correspond to which carriers. More details but I don't want to bore anyone. 

Pagers also use cell towers and radio frequencies but they are not a communication stream like a cell phone uses for a phone call. Pagers use a small chunk of information ( a few characters) that is transmitted very fast. These codes and how to decrypt them are only known by certain individuals and the codes change frequently. So this information can be intercepted but it's harder to decipher. 

Also walkie talkies use radio frequencies but these frequencies can be changed, ie they are not fixed. Also walkie talkies don't use cell towers ( which can be bugged), they send their signals direct from device to device. 

Again cell phones are not an option for secure communication otherwise they would have used them. In the past, they set up their own cell network within Lebanon for their use only with dedicated cell towers and frequencies. This network got hacked into which is why they changed to pagers and walkie talkies. 

For example the US government doesn't use cell phones for secure communication. They use satellite phones and to hack these u would need physical access to the satellite which is not on the ground but or orbiting on the edge of space. Harder to get to. Hezb obviously doesn't have satellites to use. 

They may have to go back to using handwritten notes and carrier pigeons. 

Edited September 20 by Abu Hadi

[Diaz]

They started murdering people with no shame. More than 3 got martyred from the attack israhell did in dahye. I hope sister @Laayla is safe.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DAJDMXrgcDL/?igsh=MTM5dnAwb212ZHV0ZQ==

[Muhammed Ali]

 

[mahmood8726]

13 hours ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

^Ironically, they would have avoided this situation if they have used mobile phones anyway.

 

Not necessarily, it could have been far worse. Don't forget how russia killed 200 "volounteers" in Ukraine 2 years ago when they found out where their cellphones were. Cellphones have been notoriously a problem for hezb even as far back as 2016 I remeber. Cellphones are a soldiers n#1 ennemy, disposing of them is common sense essentially.

13 hours ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

 

Civilians were needlessly endangered

Well, people didn't think Israel was going to violate the Geneva convention this badly by Bobby trapping civilian devices. I'm going to be honest, using pagers was common sense, their issue was using pagers that were from the outside, but again I can't expect them to manufacture their own pagers like Iran did.

13 hours ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

and because of Hezbollah's decision to use pagers and Mossad decided to exploit on this decision and thought the cost was worth the lives lost.

Beleive me, this is potentially a blessing in disguise, this was one of Israel's wildcards, which they detonated prematurely. Allahu Alam if they would have had a far worse wildcard, such as blowing up C4s in buildings, etc...

13 hours ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

Update: After watching a video of somebody taking apart the same pagers, I came to the realization that 1.) It is a very tight squeeze to put explosives in this particular model. The pagers wouldn't have functioned and it would have been obvious to someone that they  were tampered

The explosives were very small. Experts speculate, it was 1 to 3g of pentaerythritol tetranitrate (PETN)

13 hours ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

2.) Lithium batteries burn and when they burn, it is extremely hot and very difficult to put out the fire caused by melting lithium, they do not explode.

Yes they were explosives that blew up, the batteries were not the ones exploding. Pagers don't have lithium batteries, they usually have the standard 9V batteries or AA batteries, etc...

 

EDIT: They do have lithium ion batteries. I remeber them having 9V for some reason.

EDIT 2: I just looked it up and there are ones with a AA battery, I guess I was half right. 

13 hours ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

3.) While possible, it is very difficult to hack pagers because someone has to physically access the firmware to rewrite the software of these pagers:

 Here's the article: https://www.thenationalnews.com/future/technology/2024/09/18/lebanon-pager-technology-hacking/#:~:text=The short answer is%2C yes,it overheat and possibly ignite.

Also from the same article:

On BAC: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cew12r5qe1ro

 

Probably a traitor within hezb who leaked it. Or they sent a spy inside of hezb. 

13 hours ago, Gaius I. Caesar said:

@AbdusSibtayn @Ashvazdanghe I don't know how biased or truthful the BBC article is but I quoted what seemed to be the most relevant information.^

 

Edited September 20 by Hussein999

[Muhammed Ali]

7 hours ago, Hussein999 said:

Probably a traitor within hezb

This could be the explanation for Israel being able to locate the meeting today.

[Muhammed Ali]

 

[Dreamcatcher]

5 hours ago, Muhammed Ali said:

 

And only a fool would trust one country for another like this which is full of factories that are experts in copying other brands and their software. You could literally place an order from your home for replicas of whatever quality you want or whatever you want from bad quality to excellent which would not be distinguished from their genuine counterparts. You could source them in full or parts for assembly later, to anywhere in the world, pretend you are the factory and sell it ahead.

Chinese devices and hardware that I have come across literally come with almost no security/software updates. They are even more of a security risk other than a very few known brands like Huawei perhaps.

[Muhammed Ali]

6 hours ago, Dreamcatcher said:

And only a fool would trust one country for another like this which is full of factories that are experts in copying other brands and their software. You could literally place an order from your home for replicas of whatever quality you want or whatever you want from bad quality to excellent which would not be distinguished from their genuine counterparts. You could source them in full or parts for assembly later, to anywhere in the world, pretend you are the factory and sell it ahead.

Chinese devices and hardware that I have come across literally come with almost no security/software updates. They are even more of a security risk other than a very few known brands like Huawei perhaps.

What do you suggest they do? Create their own devices in a short amount of time?

We don't know which specific devices are being ordered and who the manufacturer is.

The old devices were planted with explosives and physically altered. Iran could send observers to these Chinese factories and monitor the deliveries all the way to Iran to make sure they were not altered. Israel can't plant explosives and change the firmware without physical access. 

And China does not want to upset its allies and customers.

Edited September 21 by Muhammed Ali

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 9/20/2024 at 5:37 PM, Abu Hadi said:

They may have to go back to using handwritten notes and carrier pigeons.

Salam respectfully it's a joke;  because they have had a trustworthy private network of cable phones before advent of of mobile phones & pagers which they have used mostly pagers for spreading general commands & information in easier way between different faction of Hizb who are working in other non militaristic factions  likewise people who are giving voluntary public service to Lebanese people under  supervision of Hizbullah  ; which  they still are using  trustworthy private network of cable phones for their sensitive & secretive sites & calling commanders which although of passing long years is still functional & has not discovered by Zionists spies although of their effort. 

 

Edited September 22 by Ashvazdanghe

[Ashvazdanghe]

2 children among Lebanon pager blast victims

Two young children have tragically lost their lives from the mass explosion of wireless pager devices in various areas in Lebanon, Anadolu Agency reports.

Fatima Jaafar Abdullah, 10, was killed in an explosion near her family’s home in the Bekaa region in eastern Lebanon, according to an Anadolu reporter.

Her family members shared details about her tragic death in an interview with Anadolu.

“Fatima was studying and had intended to bring the pager device to her father when it unexpectedly exploded in her hands,” her cousin, Muhammed Abbas Abdullah, said during her funeral procession.

A video of the funeral showed her aunt crying as she paid farewell to the young victim.

“She was only 9; My God bless her soul,” said her aunt, who did not give her name. “She came back home and started doing her homework. She was very intelligent.”

“The last time I saw her, she told me that she feels that all the people love her,” she recalled. “I told her that’s right because you are smart and aware, so all the people love you.”

Vulnerable victims
An 11-year-old boy, Mohammed Bilal King, also lost his life in a pager explosion in the Ghobeiry suburb of Beirut.

His funeral was set for Wednesday, where he will be laid to rest alongside three members of Hezbollah, including the son of a parliamentary representative.

Lebanese social media users extensively shared the names and images of Fatima and Mohammed, making them the most notable victims of the blasts that rocked the country on Tuesday.

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240918-2-children-among-lebanon-pager-blast-victims/

On 9/20/2024 at 6:45 AM, Gaius I. Caesar said:

 I don't know how biased or truthful the BBC article is but I quoted what seemed to be the most relevant information.^

Salam this their dirty tactic which they are mixing some pseudo technical relevant information with their propaganda against Hizbullah & Iran in order to cause confusion in order to whitewash rogue zionist Israel although they can't deny doing attack against Lebanese civilians by it which people may think that hacking pagers & planting explosives by Mossad has been impossible by censoring a vital information thorough  giving some parts of technical relevant information but on the ther hand censoring vital part of it . 

Edited September 22 by Ashvazdanghe