Vaccination Campaign in Gaza: Polio Eradication or Bio-warfare

[Activate your inner truth]

https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/vaccination-campaign-in-gaza-polio-eradication-or-transition-to-bio-warfare/?fbclid=IwY2xjawFE4v9leHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHXgYli5BKP5j0tsfb1a8kXbjfPKc2v4gMeLgwnrxHtjWjj7URmIpyCp_zQ_aem_t1aUsYH2rftLkSuH0Zg6zg

[Haji 2003]

13 hours ago, Activate your inner truth said:

https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/vaccination-campaign-in-gaza-polio-eradication-or-transition-to-bio-warfare/?fbclid=IwY2xjawFE4v9leHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHXgYli5BKP5j0tsfb1a8kXbjfPKc2v4gMeLgwnrxHtjWjj7URmIpyCp_zQ_aem_t1aUsYH2rftLkSuH0Zg6zg

The linked article postulates that because Israelis have been ok with killing lots of Palestinian kids, the sudden interest in vaccinating them is very suspicious i.e. the polio vaccine must have 'something bad in it'.

Another explanation is this from the World Health Organisation (my bold). The story here is that given how easily it can spread if cases amongst Gazan's rise, it's only a matter of time before they spread to Israel.

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Polio (poliomyelitis) mainly affects children under 5 years of age.

One in 200 infections leads to irreversible paralysis. Among those paralysed, 5–10% die when their breathing muscles become immobilized.

Cases due to wild poliovirus have decreased by over 99% since 1988, from an estimated 350 000 cases in more than 125 endemic countries, to just two endemic countries (as of October 2023).

As long as a single child remains infected, children in all countries are at risk of contracting polio. Failure to eradicate polio from these last remaining strongholds could result in a global resurgence of the disease.

In most countries, the global effort has expanded capacities to tackle other infectious diseases by building effective surveillance and immunization systems.

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/poliomyelitis

[EiE]

Thank you for bringing this topic up!

There's and has always been some nefarious thoughts behind these campaigns.

For months they have been killed and bombed, burnt alive, and now they feel pity for the Palestinians? What a load of crap.

And I do hope that we have some intelligent people in the community that can mention this important subject, not only for the Palestinians but also for all of humanity.

[Activate your inner truth]

On 9/4/2024 at 5:48 AM, EiE said:

Thank you for bringing this topic up!

There's and has always been some nefarious thoughts behind these campaigns.

For months they have been killed and bombed, burnt alive, and now they feel pity for the Palestinians? What a load of crap.

And I do hope that we have some intelligent people in the community that can mention this important subject, not only for the Palestinians but also for all of humanity.

Hi EiE

Your welcome.

I had the same thoughts as you. 

Isn't it amazing the have had no let up what so ever in their carnage, shooting at aid workers, and stopping food trucks.

But yes they have come to save  the Palestinian children with polio vaccines. 

After the destruction of the bio weapon jabs have caused, I hope the people of Palestine won't buy into this crap. 

[EiE]

On 9/4/2024 at 2:08 PM, Activate your inner truth said:

Hi EiE

Your welcome.

I had the same thoughts as you. 

Isn't it amazing the have had no let up what so ever in their carnage, shooting at aid workers, and stopping food trucks.

But yes they have come to save  the Palestinian children with polio vaccines. 

After the destruction of the bio weapon jabs have caused, I hope the people of Palestine won't buy into this crap. 

It's even more disheartening to think that some members here believe this is in interest of the Palestinians.......

[Activate your inner truth]

8 hours ago, EiE said:

It's even more disheartening to think that some members here believe this is in interest of the Palestinians.......

You know its strange, especially after the last few years  with the jabs and everything we are seeing happening from that now.  I would have thought more people here might have also thought similar about the Palestinians  and this  so called  humanitarian move- More  ongoing ways to kill them. 

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 9/4/2024 at 10:38 PM, Activate your inner truth said:

But yes they have come to save  the Palestinian children with polio vaccines. 

After the destruction of the bio weapon jabs have caused, I hope the people of Palestine won't buy into this crap. 

Salam considering well-known jabs likewise Polio vaccine as bio weapon is another Zionist propaganda which they want to kill Palestinian children through cheap ways likewise refusing to inject Polio vaccines just based on the absurd zionist conspiracy theory about considering Polio vaccines & other well known vaccines just for killing innocent Palestinian children in a cheap painful death by Polio & Cholera & similar diseases   just by relying on absurd Zionist propaganda which in similar fashion  @EiE has spread such absurd Zionist propaganda about vaccines based on his absurd viewpoint about Corona vaccine which has no correlation to Polio vaccine & other verified vaccines . 

 

13 hours ago, Activate your inner truth said:

You know its strange, especially after the last few years  with the jabs and everything we are seeing happening from that now.  I would have thought more people here might have also thought similar about the Palestinians  and this  so called  humanitarian move- More  ongoing ways to kill them. 

Your suggestion is in line with Zionist policy about giving painful & cheap death to innocent Palestinian children through spreading Polio & cholera in similar fashion of Yemen  while Palestinians will refuse take jabs just based on the absurd zionist propaganda 

[Hasani Samnani]

Only those who lack critical thinking skills and believe that Israel is a kind caring nation towards Gaza's children would swallow this garbage.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1570019/

The above mentioned article is when the Indian medical assn noticed an alarming increase in polio cases after a vaccination campaign.

It's a well known fact among us in among us in the medical community that wild type poliovirus is much more rare and happens in places with deficient sewerage,  poor hygiene and lack of clean water and water contaminated by raw sewage. Once clean water and hygiene standards are elevated,  the polio rate and the rate of many other water borne chiodhood diseases rapidly diminish. For more education on this read the book "Turtles all the way down". Why do you think Islam stresses clean water, and large quantities over a Kurr for taharat.

Read the book yourself and then decide for yourself, and don't listen to all the paid big pharma shills who want to make sure you never get your hands on such a subversive book or such topics.

I can tell you many pediatric docs have read the book and recommend to others, but very quietly since no one wants to get in trouble. I was introduced to it during my medical training by my Pediatric professor when I saw vaccinated children in clinics coming in with higher rates of side effects like asthma and allergies and still getting the infection for which they had been vaccinated against....made no medical sense to me at the time.

AFM acute flaccid myelitis which is an exact copy of known poliovirus signs and symptoms has been seen in areas where specific poliovirus vaccines batches were released. This was suddenly increasing in the US and UK and then the virus manufacturers had to rapidly change the vaccine formulation. Especially after the specific virus subtype used in the vaccine was found in these paralyzed children. 

I am glad there are people who have begun to realize post COVID and explosive growth of 12 billionaires in less than a year in the COVID vaccine industry that vaccines are big business, and quality and safety are too often neglected for rapid profits. The DNA contamination,  metallic contamination and deaths in Japan, the alarming side effect profile which was buried by the vaccine manufacturers. They requested in court that the side effects and mortality data not even be released until 75 yrs after release and the US govt agreed. The post marketing surveillance data required by all medical manufacturers is still buried. No phase 3  and 4  data at all has been released or it was corrupted by allowing the non vaccinated arm of the trials to enter the vaccine arm, thereby destroying the integrity of a randomized controlled data.

Just to make things clear it took Jeff Bezos of Amazon more than 10 years to become a billionaire, what these money minded big pharma guys did in less than 10 months.

Always remember the goal of pharma companies is profits and their shareholders know it. They're happy to pay a fine for making a mistake as long as they make more than enough profits to cover their fines and mistakes. Remember Pfizer specifically had been levied with the highest fines in history based on poor manufacturing practices and bad medications. They happily paid having already made obscene profits.

Also remember the some of our British brothers and sisters were all gung ho on the Oxford Astrazeneca COVID Vaccine saying it was safe and effective. They tried to censor anyone who was not pro vaccine, and tried to urge caution as we do with any new product. That COVID vaccine was withdrawn for devastating side effects and death. Now of course they used a Public Relations Crisis management team to come up with the excuse that new viral subtypes were not covered hence the withdrawal, REALLY....the other companies didn't have any problems with new subtypes...

As for the useful idiots who parrot every govt line about vaccines and covid...remember the goal of govts is control and they are not benign in their intentions. They need to keep their populations stupid and controlled to stay in power. Keep that in mind when evaluating policies,  and always use your mind that Allah gave to think first before making a decision or judgement.

 

Edited September 8 by Hasani Samnani

[Ashvazdanghe]

12 hours ago, Hasani Samnani said:

Only those who lack critical thinking skills and believe that Israel is a kind caring nation towards Gaza's children would swallow this garbage.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1570019/

The above mentioned article is when the Indian medical assn noticed an alarming increase in polio cases after a vaccination campaign.

Salam as usual you are have mixed everything with your biased viewpoint which your mentioned article has been about poor management of government & using non effective "live Oral vaccination" while at end of article using  "injectible vaccine" in similar fashion of developed countries has been recommended  also you have referred to side effects by your biased observation without having statistics & documentation which can be vary in any time & any region which 

which although  I'm skeptic about "WHO" & using non effective "live Oral vaccination" by it for innocent children of Ghaza as  show off of both of WHO & rogue zionist regime but on the other hand I don't buy far fetch zionist conspiracy about using Polio vaccine as bio weapon in hope of rejection of it by Palestinians  which in this dire situation even this show off by both of WHO & rogue zionist regime about vaccination is better than nothing also your idea about Covid vaccine is an offtopic matter which has no place here which  as an example Iran has made homemade polio vaccine which has not any side effects since 2000-2001 until now which you problem about Polio vaccine is due to shortcoming & malfunctioning the westerner & Indian drug manufacturer.

 

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Many virologists favour the gradual introduction of the injectable polio vaccine in India. “The injectible vaccine—currently in use in many developed countries—will provide better immunity than even 10 doses of oral vaccine and does not cause vaccine associated polio paralysis,” Dr Jacob John said.

 

 

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“When this injectable alternative exists it would be unethical to continue with the live oral vaccine that might be causing more polio cases—from vaccine associated polio paralysis—than the wild polio virus itself,” he said.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1570019/

 

Iran among 10 countries making polio vaccine

EghtesadOnline: Head of Iran’s Razi Vaccine and Serum Research Institute Hamid Kahran said that the country is among 10 countries which have managed to produce polio vaccine.

Polio vaccine produced by the institute has created high level of immunity and there has not been even one case of the disease in Iran over last 16 years.

06 / September / 2016

https://en.eghtesadonline.com/en/news/736654/iran-among-10-countries-making-polio-vaccine

Seven Million Infants Get Oral Polio Vaccine in Iran

 

March 7, 1998 

The Islamic Republic produces polio vaccine, and has also undertaken infantile vaccinations in neighboring Afghanistan since 1996. Polio is an acute non-curable, but preventable, viral diseases usually affecting children and young adults resulting in a motor paralysis followed by muscular atrophy. (IRNA)

Iran Receives Polio-Free Certificate From WHO

February 21, 2017

“By reaching self-sufficiency in production of polio vaccine by the Razi Vaccine and Serum Research Institute and eradication of polio, Iran was awarded the WHO certification,” announced Hamid Kahram, institute director, as reported by IANA.

The coverage of polio immunization program is 100% across the country while it used to be 30% before the 1979 Islamic Revolution. Vaccines are supplied by Razi Institute, which is the only one in the Middle East producing the polio vaccine.

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Polio immunization in Iran since 1991 was based on high routine immunization coverage, robust Acute Flaccid Paralysis surveillance system and high quality supplementary immunization activities that saw the number of reported cases decrease from 50 to zero in 2001. Iran has been polio free since 2001. 

 

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Since 1999, supplementary national immunization days in high-risk areas and populations such as the southeastern border province of Sistan-Baluchistan, are conducted annually.

The national poliovirus laboratory in Tehran University of Medical Sciences, School of Public Health, is a WHO-accredited laboratory of the Eastern Mediterranean Region poliovirus laboratories network. It performs intra-typic differentiation of polioviruses.

 

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Recently, Iran was entrusted by the WHO with the task of polio vaccine production required for immunization against the disease in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

In order to fulfill the responsibility, a memorandum of understanding was signed between Iran Pasteur Institute and Shafa Darou, a knowledge-based company (affiliated to Bank Melli).  

Pakistan and Afghanistan which share common borders with Iran in the southeast are the two remaining countries in the world where poliomyelitis is still categorized as an endemic viral infection. 

Iran has the infrastructure to produce sufficient polio vaccine to meet the domestic needs of immunization programs and also for people in the neighboring countries.

https://financialtribune.com/articles/people/60095/iran-receives-polio-free-certificate-from-who

 

[Hasani Samnani]

19 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam as usual you are have mixed everything with your biased viewpoint which your mentioned article has been about poor management of government & using non effective "live Oral vaccination" while at end of article using  "injectible vaccine" in similar fashion of developed countries has been recommended  also you have referred to side effects by your biased observation without having statistics & documentation which can be vary in any time & any region which 

Wa Alaikum Salam ....Brother I am more than willing to stack my medical training and knowledge and then engage in educated debate....But I challenge any English-speaking person to first read aloud the above quote,   find the proper sentence structure, use of appropriate punctuation, non run on sentences and decipher their meaning...I tried 3 times and failed... Brother even if English Is not your native language,  start with writing your points in Farsi,  the translate to English and then make the appropriate corrections.

Unfortunately, except for your last paragraph and your well known  standard copy and paste materials which convey non original thought process. Your response belies a confused response typed in some sort of misplaced hostility and sudden defense of Iran and it's polio policy and home made polio vaccines.

I am a great defender of Iran and it's health policy and innovations. I have engaged and am currently engaged in research projects with Iranian physicians and scientists in stem cell therapies and photobiomodulation.  I have actually helped Iranian physicians get licensed in other countries and have great respect for their doctors and have many Iranian docs as colleagues and friends. 

In fact two of my closest colleagues and friends are Tehran University of Medical Science ( TUMS)  grads and my own oldest child is a 3 rd yr medical student in TUMS as well. It seems he was very impressed with their medical knowledge and training.

So put away your misguided hostility. You and I have had many discussions before and I have, openly and thru DMs, shown my respect for your ability to find often obscure knowledge regarding other matters and to provide guidance to others. However ,this doesn't give you carte blanche on every topic on shiachat. 

I will ask your knowledge regarding vaccines and medical topics and then you can respond WITHOUT any copy and paste materials. Thereby showing that you are able to digest and analyze material and then present it in your own words as a way to display your own fund of knowledge and then once we have set a baseline we can engage in meaningful debate....otherwise what's the point?

Do vaccines work thru humoral immunity or cellular immunity?

Why have mRNA vaccines never been used before,  despite the technology being more than 10 yrs old?

What is herd immunity and was it used during the COVID pandemic?

Which antibiotics come from natural precursors? This will be pertinent to our discussion.

Please think your answers carefully before responding. 

Otherwise we get more of 

19 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

which although  I'm skeptic about "WHO" & using non effective "live Oral vaccination" by it for innocent children of Ghaza as  show off of both of WHO & rogue zionist regime but on the other hand I don't buy far fetch zionist conspiracy about using Polio vaccine as bio weapon in hope of rejection of it by Palestinians  which in this dire situation even this show off by both of WHO & rogue zionist regime about vaccination is better than nothing also your idea about Covid vaccine is an offtopic matter which has no place here which  as an example Iran has made homemade polio vaccine which has not any side effects since 2000-2001 until now which you problem about Polio vaccine is due to shortcoming & malfunctioning the westerner & Indian drug manufacturer.

As a momin we should think first and then speak, as our Imams  have said on numerous occasions or we will get cringe worthy statements, which cause others embarrassment for their esteemed brother. 

Lastly do you believe in the Hadith ,that for every disease,  Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) Has provided mankind with a cure ?

Wa Alaikum Salam, Agha jaan. 

PS notice I edited this response since I found grammatical a d spelling errors, so I am human and prone to mistakes as well.

Also one more suggestion, copy and paste, which you are a well renowned expert in, your responses in Microsoft Word or Google and can get automatic grammar and spelling correction.

Finally If you have not read "Turtles all the way down" which uses an amusing anecdote as a title,  but has very substantial scientific and medical literature based material on vaccine science,  production,  and incredible information on natural history of infectious diseases and the use of modern technology to eliminate many such diseases.

If you are unable to read such a science based book then better  and safe to not engage in scientific debate.

 

 

 

 

Edited September 10 by Hasani Samnani

[Dreamcatcher]

@Hasani Samnani

Can you provide link for the book or author of "Turtles All the Way Down"? 

[Hasani Samnani]

https://www.amazon.com/Turtles-All-Way-Down-Vaccine/dp/9655981045/ref=asc_df_9655981045/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=692875362841&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=6799536008206866479&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=m&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9008748&hvtargid=pla-2281435180258&psc=1&mcid=6e99d3331c2b3fb6af28dd74124046f1&hvocijid=6799536008206866479-9655981045-&hvexpln=73&dplnkId=eb7221bf-0f9c-4ced-9984-38b16f34513c

https://theturtlesbook.com/

 

[Ashvazdanghe]

 

 

On 9/4/2024 at 11:50 AM, Haji 2003 said:

the polio vaccine must have 'something bad in it'.

"Bill Gates" mosquitoes and deadly experiments on people / Dengue increased fourfold in Brazil after the release of infected mosquitoes + photo

 

 

On 9/8/2024 at 8:23 PM, Hasani Samnani said:

AFM acute flaccid myelitis which is an exact copy of known poliovirus signs and symptoms has been seen in areas where specific poliovirus vaccines batches were released. This was suddenly increasing in the US and UK and then the virus manufacturers had to rapidly change the vaccine formulation. Especially after the specific virus subtype used in the vaccine was found in these paralyzed children. 

Scientists have pursued alternatives for years, namely modifying the mosquito itself. Much attention has been paid to genetic modifications that could effectively eliminate the entire Aedes aegypti species, but concerns about the ecological effects of this kind of engineering have lent momentum to other methods. Enter the World Mosquito Program (WMP) and its Wolbachia-infected mosquitoes, a technique that leaves the mosquito mostly unscathed. In fact,Wolbachia occurs naturally in nearly half of all insect species, but Aedes aegypti mosquitoes don’t typically carry it.

, in Niterói, Brazil. Brazil, which experienced its highest-ever known caseload of dengue last year, is the first WMP partner country to produce modified mosquitoes at a scale large enough to release them nationwide.

But their dispersal may remain slow even as WMP experiments with new methods. Luciano A. Moreira, a public health scientist and coordinator of the World Mosquito Program in Brazil, says local health officials typically drive through city streets with tubes of lab modified mosquitoes, releasing a handful of the insects through open car windows every 50 to 70 meters.

https://harvardpublichealth.org/global-health/wolbachia-infected-mosquitoes-are-brazils-weapon-against-dengue/

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https://harvardpublichealth.org/global-health/wolbachia-infected-mosquitoes-are-brazils-weapon-against-dengue/

"Bill Gates" mosquitoes and deadly experiments on people / Dengue increased fourfold in Brazil after the release of infected mosquitoes + photo

The Brazilian government has purchased more than 5 million doses of the Congo fever vaccine Qdenga, which is produced by Japanese drugmaker Takeda, and has also received millions of dollars in funding from the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. In other words, Bill Gates Foundation money is involved in all parties involved in the situation; From genetically engineered mosquitoes that have apparently exacerbated the dengue crisis, to funding companies that provide dengue vaccines to Brazil. The truth of the matter is that it was abundantly clear to independent observers that the release of hundreds of millions of bacteria-infected and genetically engineered mosquitoes sounded more like a global biological attack than a strategy to deal with a less widespread infectious disease. Bill Gates and his foundation have a very dark history of using people from so-called "developing" countries as lab rats for crazy and highly questionable projects. The oral polio vaccine project in India and American countries infected tens of thousands of children with paralysis in these regions, and Gates has an open court case in these countries.

https://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/1641145/پشه-های-بیل-گیتس-و-آزمایش-مرگبار-روی-مردم-افزایش-چهاربرابری

 

[Hasani Samnani]

18 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

 

 

On 9/8/2024 at 12:53 PM, Hasani Samnani said:

AFM acute flaccid myelitis which is an exact copy of known poliovirus signs and symptoms has been seen in areas where specific poliovirus vaccines batches were released. This was suddenly increasing in the US and UK and then the virus manufacturers had to rapidly change the vaccine formulation. Especially after the specific virus subtype used in the vaccine was found in these paralyzed children. 

 

Another copy paste tragedy with no original commentary...oh well ...

But let's try to stick to the topic of poliovirus ;your own Iranian media, as I said above,  admit Poliovirus vaccine has been shown to increase pediatric paralysis and poliovirus cases.

  Thanks for proving my point.

However, brother you were not able  to answer any question I posed to you.

You did not refer to the "Turtles all the way down, Vaccine science and Myth" book,  because the basis for scientific debate is to use  science based literature with extensive scientific literature references.

As for the title which confuses people  I will reluctantly copy and paste the anecdote which is the source....

According to a well-known story in the scientific community, an elderly woman approached a famous scientist shortly after he concluded his lecture on cosmology and the structure of the solar system:

“Your beautiful theory about the earth being round, and rotating around the sun, is very interesting, young man. Unfortunately, it is also very wrong. I have a better theory,” the woman told him.

“And what would that theory be, madam?” the scientist responded.

“Well, what you call ‘planet Earth’ is not round at all. Actually, it is kind of a large, flat disk that rests on the shoulders of four giant elephants.” “And what do these four elephants stand on?” the scientist inquired. “They stand on the back of a giant turtle,” the elderly woman answered. “And what does that turtle stand on?” the scientist asked with an inquisitive grin. “On another, bigger, turtle.” “And what does the second turtle stand on?”

“Well, my dear man,” said the elderly woman with a victorious smile, “it’s turtles all the way down!”

Unfortunately in the field of vaccine science it's the majority medical community and many in society which rest their conclusions on sacred turtles and refuses to look at evidence based medical conclusions....but blindly follow big pharma paid advertising and marketing and don't realize they're being lied to, as is done in many advertising campaigns to sell a shoddy product.

"I have found the book to be well written, serious, scientific and important… We sincerely recommend it as a scientific, medical, and public ‘must read’. This book should be central to a scientific, rational, logical, skeptical, and critical discussion on routine vaccination… The authors should be congratulated on their vast scientific in-depth endeavor as well as on their courage to think outside the ‘establishment box’.” —Nati Ronel, Professor of Criminology, and Eti Elisha, Senior Criminologist, in Harefuah Medical Journal, Sep. 2019

“This is a wonderful book – indeed, a masterpiece – and one that really needed to be written. Clearly written and very comprehensive, it is an invaluable source of knowledge for all truly interested individuals, parents as well as physicians. The title may seem puzzling at first, but once you read the book you'll realize it is a stroke of genius. I congratulate the authors on a work extremely well done.” —Russell L. Blaylock M.D., Neurosurgeon, Author of The Liver Cure“

“I strongly recommend that you read the most important book ever written about vaccines. The book presents hundreds of facts, backed by solid scientific references, which will leave you speechless. The authors present an unprecedented analysis of the world of vaccines. The book shatters myths that we grew up on, one by one. And it does so elegantly and logically. It reads almost like a fiction thriller – when I read it, I could not put it down. It presents everything the medical establishment knows and does not want you to know. An entire world is about to be revealed to you. It is no exaggeration to say that this book is about to start a revolution.”

—Dr. Gil Yosef-Shachar M.D.

“Turtles All the Way Down: Vaccine Science and Myth is a well documented and persuasive guidebook to vaccination. The book could be, and should be, a game changer. I congratulate the authors on a work well done!”

—Neil Z. Miller, Medical researcher, Author of Miller’s Review of Critical Vaccine Studies

"This impeccably researched and documented book formulates a cohesive and clear view of the vaccine science that is scattered innumerous scientific papers and government documents. It is a real eye-opener, guaranteed to change your thinking. You may find it hardto believe what you read, but with the documentation right there, infront of your eyes, the conclusions are inescapable."

—Patricia Lemer M.Ed., Licensed Professional Counselor, Author of Outsmarting Autism: Build Healthy Foundations for Communication, Socialization, and Behavior at All Ages, Chair Emeritus,Epidemic Answers

“Turtles All the Way Down: Vaccine Science and Myth is an extraordinary book, as its name implies. This is a must-read for anyone who wants an in-depth introduction to the subject of vaccines to make informed decisions for themselves and their family. The authors deserve many compliments for their comprehensive and thorough work, based mainly on sources from the scientific literature and the websites of health authorities. The book presents its arguments in clear and easy-to-understand language so that a medical education is not required in order to read it and benefit from it.

However, I also strongly suggest that medical professionals of all fields delve into it. Personally, I learned a lot from reading the book and I highly recommend it.”

—Dr. Haim Rosenthal M.D.

“While the media is saturated with messaging that vaccines are ‘safe and effective,’ an increasing number of parents are growing skeptical of this narrative. This book is a comprehensive and exceptionally well documented look into the ‘science’ behind vaccine safety, exposing the fact that most of the supporting evidence is based on shoddy research biased by vested interests. This is arguably the most thorough and persuasive book on the market on this important topic.”

—Stephanie Seneff Ph.D., Senior Research Scientist, MIT, Author of Toxic Legacy

"Turtles All The Way Down: Vaccine Science and Myth is an important book, because it fills a gap that has long begged to be filled. It explains the science behind vaccines, distilling down a huge amount of medical literature, making a solid understanding of the science accessible to any committed reader. Until now, books on vaccines were either too technical for the average reader, or too simplified, or were not up to date on the current issues facing the vaccine enterprise. Every parent should have this book in their library." —Meryl Nass M.D.

"If you are in the habit of quoting CDC as an authority on vaccine safety and efficacy, this book will break you of that habit. Our society is engaged in an existential battle between those willing to acknowledge the evidence on vaccine safety and those who make claims based on falsified and fraudulent data. In just over 500 pages, the exquisitely referenced ‘Turtles’ presents reality-based fact after fact, demolishing false claim after false claim made by vaccine proponents until the truth becomes inescapable." —James Lyons Weiler Ph.D., IPAK-EDU.org

 

I dare anyone of the brothers and sisters who pushed and manipulated and forced people to accept that vaccines are safe and effective because the Govt says so, or that think Big Pharma has the best interests of society in mind and not profits.... to actually find refuting medical literature references....and not some pro vaxxer propaganda and fake debunking with no references.

Challenge submitted.

I'll await those who have the courage to open their mind and accept science versus Govt propaganda.

Also if the book is hard to read or for those with some intellectual difficulties for some reason ,the 2nd link I shared for the book in my previous post has a list of chapter titles and also has a hyperlink and qr code,  so you can just browse thru the references the book uses to convince yourself how meticulously documented and well researched the book truly is, it took a truly herculean effort to write this book.

https://theturtlesbook.com/

just hit read 1st chapter and you can browse the chapters and subject heading very quickly with  another link to the references.

Edited September 12 by Hasani Samnani

[Hasani Samnani]

On 9/8/2024 at 5:39 AM, Ashvazdanghe said:

@EiE has spread such absurd Zionist propaganda about vaccines based on his absurd viewpoint about Corona vaccine

and I am sorry to correct another major error but @EiE has actually worked to educate and inform the community on vital medical matters and has urged using caution when accepting a product like some of the COVID  vaccines which were  based on limited data, improper safety testing, very ltd animal studies, poor manufacturing practices, shoddy pharmacodynamics and pharmacodistribution studies, no pharmacokinetics studies, unreliable safety data and no post marketing surveillance studies.

https://rumble.com/vqx3kb-the-pfizer-inoculations-do-more-harm-than-good.html

This is a video made by a group of  over 500 medical doctors, scientists and health care providers regarding the harm of certain covid vaccines and how doctors were purposely misled on the data In order force vaccinate people.

It's meticulously researched and provide only medical evidence based conclusions,  but more importantly dissects thru all the data manipulation and massaging done by the big pharma to sell their shoddy product and become overnight billionaires.

Also if you don't want to go thru the whole video , you can see the PDF Presentation and quickly browse the data.

https://www.canadiancovidcarealliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/The-COVID-19-Inoculations-More-Harm-Than-Good-REV-Dec-16-2021.pdf

Edited September 12 by Hasani Samnani

[Hasani Samnani]

There are a few brave true momins on this platform who have raised their voices and corrected errors and served to educate their momin brothers and sisters.

 

Shout out to @PureExistence1, @justAnothermuslim, @Son of Placid, @Chiasalswe @Activate your inner truth  @AkhiraisReal  and a few others who I have sadly missed mentioning. But we need brave souls who go against the majority view of medical science sometimes otherwise the majority is often wrong and medicine should be science based  not consensus based .

Blood letting, leeches , radiation for ringworm treatment, smoking was considered healthy and Doctor's advertised it, arsenic was used as medicine, alcohol( ethanol) was in the majority of medical formulations, cocaine and heroin were used in hospitals, are all examples of medical consensus being proved wrong by brave individuals who went against the mainstream.

[PureExistence1]

1 hour ago, Hasani Samnani said:

and I am sorry to correct another major error but @EiE has actually worked to educate and inform the community on vital medical matters and has urged using caution when accepting a product like some of the COVID  vaccines which were  based on limited data, improper safety testing, very ltd animal studies, poor manufacturing practices, shoddy pharmacodynamics and pharmacodistribution studies, no pharmacokinetics studies, unreliable safety data and no post marketing surveillance studies.

https://rumble.com/vqx3kb-the-pfizer-inoculations-do-more-harm-than-good.html

This is a video made by a group of  over 500 medical doctors, scientists and health care providers regarding the harm of certain covid vaccines and how doctors were purposely misled on the data In order force vaccinate people.

It's meticulously researched and provide only medical evidence based conclusions,  but more importantly dissects thru all the data manipulation and massaging done by the big pharma to sell their shoddy product and become overnight billionaires.

Also if you don't want to go thru the whole video , you can see the PDF Presentation and quickly browse the data.

https://www.canadiancovidcarealliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/The-COVID-19-Inoculations-More-Harm-Than-Good-REV-Dec-16-2021.pdf

Salaam brother, thanks for the shout out and for providing the name of the Canadian Covid Critical Care Alliance. I hadn't heard of them before. Another good resource, i see.

My husband and I are both recovering from this new strain  of covid. It hit way worse than when we got Delta. He caught it most likely from a kid that coughed continuously on a 13 hour flight. Idk why parents dont give their kid cough suppressant instead of forcing a plane of 300 people to be exposed to whatever theyre sick with:(

Im nervous because i FINALLY succeeded in my battle against long covid and now i have caught covid again. In sha Allah kheyr.

Flccc's new guidelines now include an additional med to help prevent long covid, metformin.. in sha Allah kheyr Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) saves me from it this time.Long covid is no joke!

I have forgotten most of the tips regarding clearing of viral particles that may still be causing inflammation and severe fatigue.

I need to ease into exercise, intermittent fasting, sun exposure (only able to when im on the farm 3x a week) resveratrol, NAC, nattokinase, curcumin, black seed oil and bio quercetin...all basic but powerful supplements. Considering adding methylene blue.

Also, thanks for including the clause of where the book got its name. I was extremely curious!

One thing i want to throw in this post is, i wonder if any sisters on this site have experienced the shedding phenomenon? I have, and im dreading when my elderly parents get their boosters. They come from an era when "trusting those that should not be trusted" was common place...due to their age and health conditions, its no use trying to change their minds. I will have to stay away from them for at least 3 weeks when they get boosted.

Ugh..so tired of this fiasco! 

I would love to move to like, Gilan or somewhere north and raise sheep til i die and be done with all this but alas, im stuck in California for the time being. I need too be here for my parents <3

As salaamun aleikum and jazakAllahkheyr

[Activate your inner truth]

7 hours ago, Hasani Samnani said:

There are a few brave true momins on this platform who have raised their voices and corrected errors and served to educate their momin brothers and sisters.

 

Shout out to @PureExistence1, @justAnothermuslim, @Son of Placid, @Chiasalswe @Activate your inner truth  @AkhiraisReal  and a few others who I have sadly missed mentioning. But we need brave souls who go against the majority view of medical science sometimes otherwise the majority is often wrong and medicine should be science based  not consensus based .

Blood letting, leeches , radiation for ringworm treatment, smoking was considered healthy and Doctor's advertised it, arsenic was used as medicine, alcohol( ethanol) was in the majority of medical formulations, cocaine and heroin were used in hospitals, are all examples of medical consensus being proved wrong by brave individuals who went against the mainstream.

 Salaams @Hasani Samnani Thank you kindly for your message, I don't feel I have added much here but that's kind of you to mention. Actually I normally like going in and  out of the posts here by the members, but since posting the link about the Palestinians and the vaccination campaign, the way your write is helping me to understand medical sciences better. I am not from a medical background but seeing how its conveyed and articulated is very helpful for me as with being neuro divergent personality but  its helping me to see how to put thoughts down in a analytical and   referenced way with proofs. 

Its a honor to learn from you from you and the brothers and sisters here. 

 

 

 

[Activate your inner truth]

https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/theres-something-fishy-about-the-polio-vaxx-campaign-in-gaza/

 

[Son of Placid]

On 9/11/2024 at 10:10 PM, Hasani Samnani said:

There are a few brave true momins on this platform who have raised their voices and corrected errors and served to educate their momin brothers and sisters.

 

Shout out to @PureExistence1, @justAnothermuslim, @Son of Placid, @Chiasalswe @Activate your inner truth  @AkhiraisReal  and a few others who I have sadly missed mentioning. But we need brave souls who go against the majority view of medical science sometimes otherwise the majority is often wrong and medicine should be science based  not consensus based .

Blood letting, leeches , radiation for ringworm treatment, smoking was considered healthy and Doctor's advertised it, arsenic was used as medicine, alcohol( ethanol) was in the majority of medical formulations, cocaine and heroin were used in hospitals, are all examples of medical consensus being proved wrong by brave individuals who went against the mainstream.

Thanks for the shout out. I'm not sure I qualify as a momin but I appreciate the association.

Bottom line, We live in an evil world.
Bringing the dark to light is not popular but once seen it can't be unseen and we all have a responsibility to inform, not convince others what we have seen. Most of us are too busy to notice the crazy in the world is real and bigger than we know... Until it effects us directly. By then it's too late. The conspiracy is no longer a theory.
At one time experts were a thing, science was also a thing. We are now in an age where unnamed experts make the rules and scientists are paid for conclusions. Everything else is censored for our own good...
The one world leader and a controlled monetary system is predicted in the revelation given to John. It won't be long now.

If the devil wore a red jumpsuit and carried a pitchfork we'd have no problem recognizing evil but he doesn't. 
Paul Harvey, an American broadcaster, used to do segments called "The rest of the story". Today he would be called a conspiracy theorist.
In 1965 he broadcasted, "If I was the devil". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGrWvrGDOXg




 

 

[mahmood8726]

https://www.uncaptured.media/p/us-authorizes-cia-mercenaries-to

 

Dan cohen wrote this article yesterday, he's not just some nobody. What the hell is this? 

 

"Starting with Al-Atatra, a village in the northwestern Gaza Strip, the plan calls to build what the Israeli daily Ynet calls “humanitarian bubbles” – turning the remains of villages and neighborhoods into tiny concentration camps cut off from their environs and surrounded and controlled by mercenaries."

 

"48 hours after stamping out resistance, they plan to erect separation walls around the neighborhood, forcing its residents, and no one else, to enter and exit using biometric identification under the CIA contractors’ control. Those who do not accept the biometric regime would be refused humanitarian aid."

You guys need to take a look at this, this sounds like a tin foil conspiracy.

@EiE @Son of Placid

@Hasani Samnani @Haji 2003

[Son of Placid]

12 hours ago, mahmood8726 said:

https://www.uncaptured.media/p/us-authorizes-cia-mercenaries-to

 

Dan cohen wrote this article yesterday, he's not just some nobody. What the hell is this? 

 

"Starting with Al-Atatra, a village in the northwestern Gaza Strip, the plan calls to build what the Israeli daily Ynet calls “humanitarian bubbles” – turning the remains of villages and neighborhoods into tiny concentration camps cut off from their environs and surrounded and controlled by mercenaries."

 

"48 hours after stamping out resistance, they plan to erect separation walls around the neighborhood, forcing its residents, and no one else, to enter and exit using biometric identification under the CIA contractors’ control. Those who do not accept the biometric regime would be refused humanitarian aid."

You guys need to take a look at this, this sounds like a tin foil conspiracy.

@EiE @Son of Placid

@Hasani Samnani @Haji 2003

I don't think tin foil is going to help and probably not a conspiracy "theory". Of course the US is involved.
The idea of gathering up all the "innocent" people into a bubble to protect them from the rest of the world sounds like a humanitarian move but it's not, it's a corral with armed guards.
It's the trend.

Canada is not at war but has a housing crisis. Immigrants are moving here at a rapid pace. I can't blame them, their countries are a mess.
How to handle the situation? Build 15 minute cities, search "Emerald Sky Townhomes". That's only one complex in one city. All rentals from City Vibe Development, you shall own nothing... The average house cost is beyond anyone starting out. The next generation will never own a home.
It would take little to build a wall around these SMART communities and a gate, to avoid people who can't live there for whatever reason, start with vaccines if you like. 

If you are not familiar with 15 minute cities, the idea is to move people in to a safe" gated community where everything they need is within a 15 minute walk. They can close the gate to keep the bad guys out and the good people in, er, safe.
At first it will be; You don't have to leave, then it will be, you can't leave. This is happening everywhere.

Everything now is in a "cloud", (data warehouse), and digital. Digital can do anything, analog is done. 
I'm not sure what they mean by biometrics but both my laptop and cell phone could identify me by fingerprint or facial recognition if I set it up. There is a good chance that information has already been uploaded somewhere without my consent or on the 20th page of a user agreement.
China has cameras everywhere with facial recognition, people are already on a credit score, everything they do and everywhere they go is recorded. Doing the wrong thing can effect your credit score. Our PM really likes how the Chinese control their people.
Our PM has already proven he can seize bank accounts for as little as donating $60. to the truckers convoy/protest. 

It's like starlink. Elon's internet. There are 6,371 working satellites of his in orbit now. They have a five year life span. That's really expensive if it's 1/4 mil per satellite, 15+ mil to get it in orbit. That's 1/3rd the original cost per satellite that now weighs 3X what the first ones did, and takeoff is down to half the cost. His target is 30,000 satellites for 30B.
Is there any chance the only thing these satellites can do is internet? I don't think that's in his nature, he puts 9 cameras on a car. He now has human size robots capable of doing most anything you tell it to. For a guy who warned us all about A.I., he sure likes being ahead of the game.

Without starting a new conspiracy theory, what's all on the NASA satellites?
Thanks to Spacex every country can have their own satellites now. That's how South Korea found out 1500 North Korean soldiers were being deployed to Russia.
August 9th this year China started sending the first of 14,000 "starlink rival" satellites into orbit.
There was an agreement, no weapons in space. I'm sure they've all adhered to that.

[mahmood8726]

On 10/23/2024 at 8:35 PM, Son of Placid said:

I don't think tin foil is going to help and probably not a conspiracy "theory". Of course the US is involved.
The idea of gathering up all the "innocent" people into a bubble to protect them from the rest of the world sounds like a humanitarian move but it's not, it's a corral with armed guards.
It's the trend.

Canada is not at war but has a housing crisis. Immigrants are moving here at a rapid pace. I can't blame them, their countries are a mess.
How to handle the situation? Build 15 minute cities, search "Emerald Sky Townhomes". That's only one complex in one city. All rentals from City Vibe Development, you shall own nothing... The average house cost is beyond anyone starting out. The next generation will never own a home.
It would take little to build a wall around these SMART communities and a gate, to avoid people who can't live there for whatever reason, start with vaccines if you like. 

If you are not familiar with 15 minute cities, the idea is to move people in to a safe" gated community where everything they need is within a 15 minute walk. They can close the gate to keep the bad guys out and the good people in, er, safe.
At first it will be; You don't have to leave, then it will be, you can't leave. This is happening everywhere.

Everything now is in a "cloud", (data warehouse), and digital. Digital can do anything, analog is done. 
I'm not sure what they mean by biometrics but both my laptop and cell phone could identify me by fingerprint or facial recognition if I set it up. There is a good chance that information has already been uploaded somewhere without my consent or on the 20th page of a user agreement.
China has cameras everywhere with facial recognition, people are already on a credit score, everything they do and everywhere they go is recorded. Doing the wrong thing can effect your credit score. Our PM really likes how the Chinese control their people.
Our PM has already proven he can seize bank accounts for as little as donating $60. to the truckers convoy/protest. 

It's like starlink. Elon's internet. There are 6,371 working satellites of his in orbit now. They have a five year life span. That's really expensive if it's 1/4 mil per satellite, 15+ mil to get it in orbit. That's 1/3rd the original cost per satellite that now weighs 3X what the first ones did, and takeoff is down to half the cost. His target is 30,000 satellites for 30B.
Is there any chance the only thing these satellites can do is internet? I don't think that's in his nature, he puts 9 cameras on a car. He now has human size robots capable of doing most anything you tell it to. For a guy who warned us all about A.I., he sure likes being ahead of the game.

Without starting a new conspiracy theory, what's all on the NASA satellites?
Thanks to Spacex every country can have their own satellites now. That's how South Korea found out 1500 North Korean soldiers were being deployed to Russia.
August 9th this year China started sending the first of 14,000 "starlink rival" satellites into orbit.
There was an agreement, no weapons in space. I'm sure they've all adhered to that.

there is more evidence comming out. 

 

[coldcow]

I would agree with you all that Israeli government doesn't care about the health of Gaza - except for when it affects the health of Israelis.  There is a very large portion of orthodox Jews in Israel that are unvaccinated.  In fact, there was a polio outbreak in NYC that was connected to an Israeli man that was unvaccinated a few years ago.

https://www.health.ny.gov/press/releases/2023/2023-03-10_immunized_against_polio.htm

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/04/how-polio-silently-spread-in-new-york-and-left-a-person-paralyzed.html#:~:text=An unvaccinated adult suffered paralysis,in London and Jerusalem wastewater.

Palestinians are generally very smart people.  They tend to be more educated than their neighboring arab populations.   I think they understand the importance of public health.  And I think Israeli public health officials also understand the importance of minimizing this virus as much as possible.

Additionally, this vaccine is likely manufactured from other countries and brought in by the WHO.  Always possible Mossad is doing something to it, but highly unlikely in my opinion.

Quite frankly, I think it is very dangerous to discourage vaccinations or spread conspiracies about them.  Yes, oral polio vaccine can result in some reversion to wild-type polio, however on the whole it is superior to no vaccination when it comes to limiting the number of people developing life altering paralysis.  Ideally, inactivated polio would be better, as there's no risk of reversion to wild type.  But it would necessitate having refrigeration available. 

I'm sure zionists would love for Palestinian children to get paralyzed from polio and be unable to function/fight/reproduce.  It would benefit them, along with discouraging vaccinations in general and seeing them die from preventable illnesses.  Which is why I think it's irresponsible to float such ideas without evidence.

[mahmood8726]

15 hours ago, coldcow said:

I would agree with you all that Israeli government doesn't care about the health of Gaza - except for when it affects the health of Israelis.  There is a very large portion of orthodox Jews in Israel that are unvaccinated.  In fact, there was a polio outbreak in NYC that was connected to an Israeli man that was unvaccinated a few years ago.

https://www.health.ny.gov/press/releases/2023/2023-03-10_immunized_against_polio.htm

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/04/how-polio-silently-spread-in-new-york-and-left-a-person-paralyzed.html#:~:text=An unvaccinated adult suffered paralysis,in London and Jerusalem wastewater.

Palestinians are generally very smart people.  They tend to be more educated than their neighboring arab populations.   I think they understand the importance of public health.  And I think Israeli public health officials also understand the importance of minimizing this virus as much as possible.

Additionally, this vaccine is likely manufactured from other countries and brought in by the WHO.  Always possible Mossad is doing something to it, but highly unlikely in my opinion.

Quite frankly, I think it is very dangerous to discourage vaccinations or spread conspiracies about them.  Yes, oral polio vaccine can result in some reversion to wild-type polio, however on the whole it is superior to no vaccination when it comes to limiting the number of people developing life altering paralysis.  Ideally, inactivated polio would be better, as there's no risk of reversion to wild type.  But it would necessitate having refrigeration available. 

I'm sure zionists would love for Palestinian children to get paralyzed from polio and be unable to function/fight/reproduce.  It would benefit them, along with discouraging vaccinations in general and seeing them die from preventable illnesses.  Which is why I think it's irresponsible to float such ideas without evidence.

They're not going to do bio warfare. This isn't 1500s where Palestinians aren't immune to small pox. They might allow for a few thousand to get infected and then die, but I doubt they will let it spread.

It's more the articles I showed, they will put them in mini concentration cam.. I mean gated communities and will identify them through bio markers so they can receive aid and not starve. 

Edited October 29 by mahmood8726