Mutah and Validity, help

[bg1121]

Looking for some advice on the situation that I am in. 

Im a 26M looking to get into a valid mutah contract with a 26F who is a believing Christian. We are medical students - she is family oriented, but lives with autonomy over her own life. Her mother and father are aware of our relationship and that we are "dating" in the western sense. They are all aware of my beliefs. She is a virgin who wants to have intercourse therefore I run into the talks of permission of her wali.

Through the threads already on here I have read about Ayatollah Sistani and his rulings of it being a obligatory precaution and that if need be I could follow a marja with a definitive ruling such as Ayatollah Rohani (but since he has passed, im not sure if that is valid anymore). 

If her father has given her permission to be in a relationship with me does that satisfy this fatwa from Ayatollah Sistani? 

Question: Some Western governments allow the daughter to be independent of her parents, after she has passed the age of sixteen. If she seeks her parents advice, it is only for seeking their opinion or out of respect for them. Is such a virgin girl allowed to marry, be it permanent or a temporary marriage, without the consent of her father?

Answer: If this means that the father has allowed her to marry whomsoever she wants or that he has withdrawn from interfering in the matter of her marriage, it is permissible for her to do so; otherwise, based on obligatory precaution, it is not permissible.

 

It is also believed in her faith that she does not need her fathers permission to marry, does that change anything? (Ayatollah Sayed M.S Alhakeem)

If I want to marry temporarily a Christian girl who, in her religion, does not need the permission of the father to get married, can we thus form a temporary marriage contract and be allowed to consummate the marriage without his permission?

Answer :

If the consent of the guardian is not required based on his religion, it is permissible to marry his virgin daughter without his permission. The permission is also not required if the father mandates his daughter to deal with the matter of her marriage.

[Ashvazdanghe]

12 hours ago, bg1121 said:

Through the threads already on here I have read about Ayatollah Sistani and his rulings of it being a obligatory precaution and that if need be I could follow a marja with a definitive ruling such as Ayatollah Rohani (but since he has passed, im not sure if that is valid anymore

Salam you must follow alive Marja ; which it's better that you ask permission of her father although dating in western sense means allowing it ; which also she  lives autonomy over her own life so therefore she can decide about it without her father's permission . 

[Ashvazdanghe]

12 hours ago, bg1121 said:

We are medical students - she is family oriented

The matter about preserving morals although you can do it based on rulings about this matter . 

[bg1121]

Preservation of morals is my concern, i understand that it is allowed islamically through these rulings, but I worry how this will reflect when I am in a situation for permanent marriage, etc. 

 

Do you know if there is a place where I can speak to a scholar about this matter? I live in a place with zero muslims (even sunnis) there is no masjid. Any aid would be appreciated! 

[Abu Hadi]

Salam.

From the fatwa above it appears it is permissable. If it is permissable (halal) that means it is also moral. So I don't understand your moral objections. 

At the same time, just because it is moral doesn't mean it is wise to do it in a particular situation. I don't know if it is wise to do it in your situation or not because I don't have enough information. 

Edited August 9 by Abu Hadi

[JannahLM]

On 8/8/2024 at 3:23 AM, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam you must follow alive Marja ; which it's better that you ask permission of her father although dating in western sense means allowing it ; which also she  lives autonomy over her own life so therefore she can decide about it without her father's permission . 

This is the case for nearly all western women. Parents don't interfere in our romantic lives at all. It's not seen as normal at all.