is mutah allowed for an already permanently married man?

[Guest Anonymous]

I was wondering is mutah allow for an already permanently married man? 

[Kazim14]

Short answer - yes.

If man married to muslim women, then he can do mutah to muslim women without permission. But need wife permission to do mutah with non muslim people of book woman. I follow Sistani

[ILuvMuhammadSAW]

On 2/12/2024 at 10:07 PM, Guest Anonymous said:

I was wondering is mutah allow for an already permanently married man? 

salam brother. In Shia fiqh, mutah is a valid form of marriage. A man who already has a permanent wife may enter into mutah with another woman, provided he fulfills the conditions and does not neglect his wife’s rights. However, a married woman cannot do mutah with another man, that is forbidden. Always check the rulings of your marjaʿ for details, i am just a random guy trying to help after all, but the general principle is that mutah is halal for men even if they are already married.

[Abu Hassanain]

On 2/12/2024 at 7:07 AM, Guest Anonymous said:

I was wondering is mutah allow for an already permanently married man? 

Salam

yes, it’s allowed however, many jurist have mirrored the rolling of Sayyid Sistani may his shadow be prolonged that you need permission of the wife for this if the woman is Christian or Jewish

If it was put in the marriage contract that you can do polygamy or temporary marriage, or you can do polygamy or temporary marriage without the permission of the wife you have to honor that condition. Otherwise you would have to redo the marriage contract to change that which of course requires working with her and her permission.

Based on how the jurist and the grammar of no using some narrations, it is either prohibited or dislike do temporary marriage while you have a wife available to you

Generally, for a married man, temporary marriage is for if you’re traveling and away from your wife, your wife is there, but you don’t have access to her. She’s sick. You know it causes her pain. She’s having menopausal issues. She has vaginitis. She has her menstrual cycle. she’s taking care of a sick relative or a child at night et.

Even if a juris allows and we interpret the narrations to be disliked, you shouldn’t for example be married have a wife for access no barriers but because in a case I Saw You Dr., Uber and they’re young women you consider attractive. Ask them to do temporary marriage with you not a good idea not what it was intended for.

wallahu Alam 

[Abu Hassanain]

Salam

also, if you’re in prison, but you have a wife and they don’t have visits thus you don’t have access to your wife trying to do temporary marriage even if they are up for it with the female guards is a terrible terrible idea. They can add much more time to your sentence and unfortunately, some of the chaplains in New York and a few other places have horror stories about these kind of incidents. 

Wallahu Alam 

[realizm]

Mut`a threads seldom disappoint, this is no exception. 

@Abu Hassanain what in the temporary world have you been typing here ? 

[Abu Hassanain]

4 hours ago, realizm said:

Mut`a threads seldom disappoint, this is no exception. 

@Abu Hassanain what in the temporary world have you been typing here ? 

4 hours ago, realizm said:

Mut`a threads seldom disappoint, this is no exception. 

@Abu Hassanain what in the temporary world have you been typing here ? 

salam

common sense fiqh disscusson, that occur between ulama and shayuq in the hawza. these are also major disscussion for cousneing and chaplancey with the prision inmates. every point was a valid issuse on when and when not mutah would encouraged or discouraged for a married man. what was the issuse ? 

[realizm]

17 minutes ago, Abu Hassanain said:

salam

common sense fiqh disscusson, that occur between ulama and shayuq in the hawza. these are also major disscussion for cousneing and chaplancey with the prision inmates. every point was a valid issuse on when and when not mutah would encouraged or discouraged for a married man. what was the issuse ? 

I don't know. Maybe when you mentioned the female guards... ?

[Abu Hassanain]

3 hours ago, realizm said:

I don't know. Maybe when you mentioned the female guards... ?

Salam

this is a major and legitimate juris practical issue .

The office of Sayyid Khamenei may his shadow be prolonged was constantly being asked questions about this when I was there, and the chaplain who worked with the office of several scholars constantly had to deal with this like seven or eight of them I know

these brothers that either are from the streets and have trouble behaving and go in or convert inside of wives on outside. They have no access to the wives so in prison in the United States anyway you’re not allowed to engage in activities with an inmate if you’re a guard, but happens all the time. The problem is if you get caught, you can get an additional charge be denied parole the guard herself can get a charge because your word of the state there’s no consent. Therefore, we always advised that even though this is technically lawful in itself, you should respect the law of the land in this case and not do something that could cause yourself for a person more trouble. 

You’d be amazed at the questions and situations that are faced by brothers and sisters inside the prison it’s a different set of Fiqh issues

like for example, another issue would be that if they have a dream and then they need to take the ritual bath, but it’s unsafe to go to the showers at certain parts of the day and they’ll get in a fight with their cellmate if they try to take the ritual bath in the sink so that case they have to wash off to dry ritual cleaning and wait for a safe time to use the showers 

The great scholars in Iran and Iraq and the students of the third level here had to spend much time answering these types of questions and I was being deadly serious

I don’t joke when it comes to Islamic law generally, the scholars would want to talk to the chaplains here or when they come to Iraq or Iran if there’s some brothers that have been in the system, they like to meet with them and talk with them I have an experienced that personally was not in jail, but I know a lot of good brothers who are and they give insight into the situation to the scholar so they can rule on a lot of those issues based on the situations they’re informed of that are going on. 

[realizm]

@Abu Hassanain I have thought of those issues before. But mentioning mut`ah with female officers was just a bit beyond reality wasn't it ?

[Abu Hassanain]

59 minutes ago, realizm said:

@Abu Hassanain I have thought of those issues before. But mentioning mut`ah with female officers was just a bit beyond reality wasn't it ?

Salam

you may not have ever worked in the capacity of training or advising the chaplains would tend to be extremely educated lay. People are very low ranking clergy.

No, it’s an issue in there that comes up almost every day with them thinking about it quite frequently with them being proposition to do it propositioning to do it or doing it

When it comes to Islamic law and your experience, there’s so many scenarios that come up

I wrote a book called Kitab Tahirah where I tried to look at all the possibilities for the issues of purity in purity in what makes pure specifically within this section and we spent a whole area discussing the issues relating to Wudu ghusul purity in prision 

I helped at one point lay the framework for design designing, of course teaching Fiqh to prisoners and Fiqh issuers specific for prisoners for the hawza 

Trust me, this is a common and everyday issue

The issue of what constitutes a fully transitioned woman from Aphrodite and various other things obviously come up to. I helped with the framework with a lot of those brothers. It would have been very difficult to actually have been a chaplain in the prisons day today teaching the teachers was hard enough.
 

wallahu Alam 

[Abu Hassanain]

1 hour ago, realizm said:

@Abu Hassanain I have thought of those issues before. But mentioning mut`ah with female officers was just a bit beyond reality wasn't it ?

Salam

as for the other issues, medical issues traveling, whether people born in the western society like it or not those are valid uses of temporary marriage

I had friends at a large fruit market in a major city. Many of them were for our school of thought. The Iraqi women all understood and had no problem with polygamy the Egyptian Christians no problem. The Lebanese women at that particular location insisted the polygamy will theoretically lawful was practically in lawful that men couldn’t do justice to four wives and that you weren’t allowed to do temporary marriage without asking your wife.

So when looking at your practical questions, one must bring up the issues from every point

The other issue being sometimes you’d have to go to the classes and the discussions of the great scholars for specific issues because nobody’s asked those type of questions in English or they have the offices. Don’t necessarily answer them right away because they have to go get clarification from the senior scholars.

A lot of the more interesting class and questions only get answered currently in Arabic in Persianthings are improving for Urdu in English

wallahu Alam