ON IMAM MAHDI (atjf)

[H AL M]

Can anyone comment on the following short video clip showing the Grand Ayatollah Kamal Hyderi talking about Imam Mahdy? Is this the current view of the Shias?

 

[Abu Nur]

On 7/18/2024 at 1:23 PM, H AL M said:

Can anyone comment on the following short video clip showing the Grand Ayatollah Kamal Hyderi talking about Imam Mahdy? Is this the current view of the Shias?

 

 

Meeting him physically is problem because he in occulation, so mostly the stories will be fake in physical nature.

Edited July 20 by Abu Nur

[Eddie Mecca]

@H AL M, According to the aḥadīth it's impossible to meet al-Mahdī (peace be upon him) while he's in the Greater Occultation...I'm assuming that these aḥadīth are ṣaḥīḥ...the traditions say that whoever claims he (she) has met the Mahdi during the Greater Occultation is a liar (paraphrase)...there are slightly differing accounts of the same narration...the people who maintain that it's possible to meet him argue that the problem lies not with physically meeting him during the present time-period...but rather with broadcasting this news loudly and abroad...they use a technicality where the narration says "whoever claims" to justify their stance / position

Edited July 20 by Eddie Mecca

[Eddie Mecca]

@H AL M, when I was young we used to hear different stories about people who had chance encounters with al-Mahdī (peace be upon him)…I'm not sure if these reports were popular Iraqi and Lebanese folktales or if they were based on some kind of truth or reality...1.) When one actually sees al-Mahdī he'll (she'll) recognize him and say to himself (herself) something like, "hey, I recognize that guy!"...this is because he (Mahdi) physically travels all over the globe and he secretly mingles among the masses and hears their discussions and gages their state of mind and readiness...he has visited various mosques and obscure villages and different districts (especially Shi'i areas) over the course of years and decades and centuries in preparation for his arising...2.) Any muʾmin can meet al-Mahdī...here's how...take a room...any room...but this room must not be linked to anything 'forbidden' like alcohol distribution or ribā or any najāsa etc....firstly, the proper intention must be made...then the room must be thoroughly washed…a super meticulous washing (there are specific details for the ritual cleansing of the space)…then the room must be painted white...entirely white from top to bottom...pure white paint must be used (not beige or cream or off-white etc.)…then the room must be blessed by a local shaykh or imam...then there are certain duʿāʾ that must be recited consistently and perpetually for three or four days straight (without slumber or sleep)…the story goes one guy from our village in Lebanon did it but then fell asleep during the final part of the third or fourth day...he was almost done but weakness of the flesh overtook him...when he awoke he saw a man existing the room...the man was wearing a clean white jubbah/thobe...he ran after the mysterious figure but he was gone once he left the room...I put 3% confidence in these stories...most likely they're a result of fanciful imaginations run amuck...but who knows...I try to keep a balance and walk a fine line between open-mindedness and not falling into Third World nonsensical superstition

Edited July 20 by Eddie Mecca

[Ashvazdanghe]

5 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

According to the aḥadīth it's impossible to meet al-Mahdī (peace be upon him) while he's in the Greater Occultation...I'm assuming that these aḥadīth are ṣaḥīḥ...the traditions say that whoever claims he (she) has met the Mahdi during the Greater Occultation is a liar (paraphrase)...there are slightly differing accounts of the same narration...the people who maintain that it's possible to meet him argue that the problem lies not with physically meeting him during the present time-period.

Salam respectfully it's a wrong conclusion which in opposition to your conclusion physical meeting with Imam Mahdi (aj) is possible but it must be kep as a secret which anyone who claims it publically or calls himself a mediator or gate or Bab & etc so then he will be a liar which stories of meeting people with Imam Mahdi (aj) with some trustworthy people who could keep secrets has been recorded after death of these  trustworthy people.

4 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

.2.) Any muʾmin can meet al-Mahdī...here's how...take a room...any room...but this room must not be linked to anything 'forbidden' like alcohol distribution or ribā or any najāsa etc....firstly, the proper intention must be made...then the room must be thoroughly washed…a super meticulous washing (there are specific details for the ritual cleansing of the space)…then the room must be painted white...entirely white from top to bottom...pure white paint must be used (not beige or cream or off-white etc.)…then the room must be blessed by a local shaykh or imam...then there are certain duʿāʾ that must be recited consistently and perpetually for three or four days straight (without slumber or sleep)…the story goes one guy from our village in Lebanon did it but then fell asleep during the final part of the third or fourth day...he was almost done but weakness of the flesh overtook him...when he awoke he saw a man existing the room...the man was wearing a clean white jubbah/thobe...he ran after the mysterious figure but he was gone once he left the room...I put 3% confidence in these stories...most likely they're a result of fanciful imaginations run amuck...but who knows...I try to keep a balance and walk a fine line between open-mindedness and not falling into Third World nonsensical superstition

This is a stereotype which has no value which according story of meeting of Sheykh Bahaei with Imam Mahdi (aj) only condition for meeting him is purifying heart which side effect of it will be purification of all aspects of lifestyle including home 7 etc ; although keeping purification of heart & asking if for forty days are from preconditions which meeting can be in different forms likewise just hearing his blessed voice without seeing him or seeing him in dream or other forms based on level of spirituality & how much that person can preserves secrets anyway there is some reports of meeting with him in dire condition which he or one of his deputies from any kind of people or social class  have came for helping people who have been in dire situation without any preparations when they have called his help sincerely from bottom of their heart .   

Edited July 20 by ShiaChat Mod
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[Eddie Mecca]

@Ashvazdanghe, Salaam...I'm not sure what you're disagreeing with...I didn't take a 100% 'pro' or a 100% 'against' stance on this matter...just emphasizing a precautionary stance against fanciful tales of meeting Bigfoot, jinn etc....I believe this is the safest and best stance to take and the one that agrees w/ the text...let's stop turning Shi'ism into Catholicism

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 7/20/2024 at 10:37 AM, Eddie Mecca said:

against fanciful tales of meeting Bigfoot, jinn etc....I believe this is the safest and best stance to take and the one that agrees w/ the text...let's stop turning Shi'ism into Catholicism

Salam it's not about meeting Bigfoot, jinn etc.......you are trying to turn Shi'ism into Protestantism while both of turning Shi'ism into Catholicism or Protestantism is just delusion.

[H AL M]

H AL M

22/07/2024

I am still puzzled on how to explain the incident set out below by Noor Islamic Education:

https://thepromisedmahdi.com/meeting-imam-mahdi-deceptive-pomegranate/

 

and a similar one below:

https://thepromisedmahdi.com/meeting-imam-mahdi-deceptive-pomegranate/

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 7/22/2024 at 7:58 AM, H AL M said:

I am still puzzled on how to explain the incident

Salam shaping fruits in desired shape even with some inscription on it is not a strange thing however it has been used as a dirty tactic by anti Shia minister of Bahrain when this  type of cheating has been unknown for muslims which maybe he has learnt this chinese technique  of molding shape of fruits  from merchants who have been traveling through silk road to Bahrain so then he has used this dirty cheating against Shia of Bahrain which his dirty cheating  has been exposed by Imam mahdi (aj) .

These Wacky Moulds Mean You Can Grow Fruits Into Any Shape!

A pear in the form of a Buddha and other vegetables and fruits of bizarre shapes

 

China-based Fruit Mould Co. are behind the crazy contraptions and have been commissioned worldwide to help people make odd-shaped produce.

The company says that strangely shaping food can “add more value” to items as well as drawing more attention to them.

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https://pictolic.com/article/a-pear-in-the-form-of-a-buddha-and-other-vegetables-and-fruits-of-bizarre-shapes

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/gallery/square-apples-buddha-peaches-how-10630837

Where Did Japanese Square Apples Originate?

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While specific details are often closely guarded by the producers, the general technique for growing square apples involves placing the fruits inside square molds during their growth stages. They are very similar to Buddha pears.

https://foodsguy.com/japanese-square-apples/

 

A low budget movie about incident of the Pomegranate in Bahrain

مرحوم کافی ، ماجرای انار وزیر و محمد ابن عیسی بحرینی

Late Kafi , Story of the Pomegranate of Vizier & Muhammad ibn Isa Bahraini

https://www.aparat.com/v/v4293m5

 

In the end, it should be said that the traditions that are quoted from the words of Shia scholars usually do not have a valid legal document and scholarly knowledge (Rijal)  to discuss the validity of its document. The acceptance of these reports is possible only by relying on the reliability of the narrator and his reputation among the people. But about whether in the great (long) occultation of Imam Zaman (AS); It is possible for someone to reach his service, it should be said: Shia scholars do not believe that Imam Zaman does not reveal himself even to his pure-natured friends, but there is a possibility that they may see him and not know him or know him.[3]

https://www.islamquest.net/fa/archive/fa89381

 

[Ashvazdanghe]

Addendum

Animation of the Story of pomegranate 

A honorable meeting of Muhammad ibn isa Bahraini into presence of Imam Mahdi (aj) 

 https://www.aparat.com/v/l38466u

 

[Ashvazdanghe]

A footnote about the  story of pomegranate  which Shias of Bahrain has asked three days for solving mystery & surviving from paying Jazyia in similar fashion of Jews or christians or massacre of them by ruler of Bahrain & his Nasibi Vizier which when Muhammad ibn isa Bahraini could visit Imam after three days of praying & purification so then Imam Mahdi (aj) said to him if you would ask my help immediately in presence of king so then I would help you immediately right there but you have asked for three days so therefore you have received solution after three days based on your request . 

[Eddie Mecca]

On 7/20/2024 at 1:08 AM, Ashvazdanghe said:

physical meeting with Imam Mahdi (aj) is possible

Salaam, where in the Qurʾān or ahadīth corpus does it claim meeting w/ Imam Mahdi during the Greater Occultation is possible? Or provide 'aqli proofs to bolster your position...

 

On 7/20/2024 at 1:08 AM, Ashvazdanghe said:

but it must be kep as a secret

Ah, and there/here it is...the key is keeping it a secret supposedly...correct?...tsk, tsk, tsk...so how are hundreds of stories leaking out when everyone is supposedly being all Top Secret hush-hush about meeting him in private? For example, if Ayatollah X met w/ Imam Mahdi some time in the past and didn't tell anyone...then how did rumors start spreading and speculation(s) start flying and hearsay/gossip run riot left, right and center all over the Shi'i street all of a sudden?? It becomes obvious that somebody spilled the beans somewhere along the line...the argument boomerangs back in on itself and implodes...Sorry Charlie (old American tuna commercial)…nobody is meeting w/ Imam Mahdi until the end of the Major Occultation 

[Eddie Mecca]

On 7/20/2024 at 1:08 AM, Ashvazdanghe said:

must be kep as a secret

Look at these two statements side-by-side and tell me there isn't a problem...Sayyad Mohammad Al Musawi says 1.) "Pious believers never claim nor disclose meeting Imam Al-Mahdi (عليه السلام). Pious believers know that Imam Al-Mahdi (عليه السلام) must be away from the enemies, so they do not disclose any information about him. Those who claim in public that they met Imam Al-Mahdi (عليه السلام) or brought a message from him, can never be trusted." 2.) Then he says the following, "Hundreds of very pious Ulama and believers have met Imam Al-Mahdi (عليه السلام) in hundreds of occasions. Many books were compiled in this subject by great scholars like Al-Muhaddith al-Noori in his book Dar Assalam and others."...usually I agree w/ Sayyad Mohammad Al Musawi but not this time...this is a clear contradiction...statement no. 1 and statement no. 2 cannot be true at the same time

[H AL M]

H AL M

25/07/2024

Some of you are missing the point:

EITHER

Some Shia scholars can and have met Imam Mahdy during the major occultation like in the case of Allama Al-Hilli and Bahraini Shia Scholar (which I am probably inclined to believe because it occurred!)

OR 

The whole thing is fake as some people would claim and there is a totally different explanation, miracle etc.

I am NOT a jurist and can only make judgements rationally!

[Ashvazdanghe]

3 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

this is a clear contradiction...statement no. 1 and statement no. 2 cannot be true at the same time

Salam clearly there is no contradiction because clearly they have kept it a secret until their death bed or they have understood that they have met after that he has disapperared after meeting & solving their problem 

 

5 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

Salaam, where in the Qurʾān or ahadīth corpus does it claim meeting w/ Imam Mahdi during the Greater Occultation is possible? Or provide 'aqli proofs to bolster your position...

Their meeting has been likewise meeting of prophet Musa (عليه السلام) with with prophet Khidr (عليه السلام) which  in our holy Quran not in your modified delusional understanding from it ; which meeting with Imam Mahdi (aj) during major occultation has not denied by any Hadith which meeting with him can be in different forms likewise just hearing his voice from back or seeing him in a true dream & receiving orders which anyone who has met him eye to eye has not recognized him as Imam until Imam has been disappeared suddenly after solving problem or giving answer which after his disappearing could or couldn't understand that he has been Imam which according to Hadith nobody can claim that he has regular meeting him or he is special deputy which such person surly will be a lira   but on the other hand temporal meeting is possible during major occultation  which after  visiting him , people maybe recognize him or not . 

Sulayman has said, “I told Imam Ja’far Sadiq (`a), ‘How do the people benefit from the absent Imam?’ Imam (`a) answered, ‘Just as they benefit from the sun behind the clouds.’”[643]

When sun is behind clouds sometimes you can see sun for a short time in some intervals which you need direct heat & ray of Sun for solving problems .

3) Hadiths: proponents of the possibility of meeting with Imam al-Mahdi (a) also believe that there are at least two reliable and acceptable hadiths which imply this possibility:

• Ishaq b. 'Ammar quotes Imam al-Sadiq (a) as saying: "Qa'im (that is, Imam al-Mahdi) has two occultations: a short one, and a long one. During the first occultation, nobody knows his place except certain Shi'as, and during the second occultation, nobody knows his place except his special mawali (servants)".

• According to another hadith from Imam al-Sadiq (a): "the owner of this affair (uprising) has two occultations: one of them will be long … nobody, neither friends, nor enemies, knows about his place, except a servant who takes care of his tasks".

4) Accounts of meeting by prominent Shiite figures: there are many reports in different books according to which many people, from distinguished scholars to ordinary people, have met with Imam al-Mahdi (a), and some of them even succeeded to talk to him. The reports are so frequent that they can be said to be mutawatir. This tawatur has been endorsed by Shiite scholars, such as al-Shaykh al-Hurr al-'Amili, Sayyid 'Abd Allah al-Shubbar, and Lutf Allah Safi Gulpayigani. Moreover, some of these reporters are very reliable, great, and well-known scholars.

5) Letters of al-Shaykh al-Mufid: three letters allegedly addressed by Imam al-Mahdi (a) to al-Shaykh al-Mufid might imply that he had relationships with Imam al-Mahdi (a). The letters are cited in Abu Mansur al-Tabrisi's al-Ihtijaj.

https://en.wikishia.net/view/Meeting_with_Imam_al-Mahdi_(a)

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4) Aqa-e-Haj Reza Hamdani narrates in his book ‘Misbah’ that on some occasions Hazrat Hujjat ((عليه السلام).) gives opportunity of seeing him to his selected and trustworthy Shias. For instance, about fifty years back a pious scholar Abdur Rahim Dimavandi was able to avail of this opportunity. He narrates that in a complete darkness he met Hazrat, who was standing facing Qibla and light was emitting from his face. The light was so luminating that even the floor was clearly visible along with its details.

In short, after considering the numerous incidents of meeting Hazrat and also the traditions we can conclude that, It is absolutely absurd and false to claim that meeting with Hazrat can be held at ones desire, without the same from Imam. on other hand, if Hazrat himself wishes to honor somebody with the opportunity to meet him is a different matter.

https://thepromisedmahdi.com/possibilty-of-meeting-imam-mahdi-a-t-f-s-in-major-occultation/

https://www.al-islam.org/life-imam-al-mahdi-baqir-shareef-al-qurashi/major-occultation

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Concerning the other two duties of the Imam, though the people of occultation time cannot use the existence of absent Imam (`a), Imam (`a) has no fault in this regard. Rather it is the fault of people, who have not prepared the conditions for Imam’s (`a) reappearance and establishment of Islamic government. Therefore, Imam Mahdi (`a) is forced to live a hidden life until the grounds are prepared for his reappearance and rising.

Moreover, there is no obvious reason for Imam’s (`a) not interfering in scientific, cultural, political, and social issues of Islamic ummah. It is probable that Imam Mahdi (`a) gives direct or indirect scientific aid to some individuals, groups, or officials in urgencies and crises. Such helps cannot be denied.

https://www.ibrahimamini.com/en/node/2362

https://erfan.ir/english/89491.html

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according to a hadith from Imam Mahdi (aj) :

 

Imam Al-Mahdi (‘a) wrote in a letter to Ash-Shaykh Al-Mufid: "We are aware of your circumstances and nothing of your affairs is concealed from us."

Bihar-ul-Anwar, vol. 53, p. 175

Imam Mahdi (‘a) wrote in a letter to Ash-Shaykh Al-Mufid: "We are not regardless of considering you nor are we forgetful of you, because if it were not so, afflictions would shower upon you and enemies would eradicate you. Hence, fear Allah and obey Him, Glory be to His Majesty."

Bihar-ul-Anwar, vol. 53, p. 175

https://www.al-islam.org/bundle-flowers-garden-traditions-prophet-ahlul-bayt/expected-mahdi-and-his-government-justice#:~:text=Imam Al-Mahdi (‘a) wrote in,Bihar-ul-Anwar%2C vol. 53%2C p. 175

[Ashvazdanghe]

Adendum

During the major occultation many people have had meetings with His Eminence (Imam al-Mehdi - (عليه السلام).), and have managed to meet him, but none of them have claimed to be able to see him or to represent him, because only the four special deputies) of the Imam had the honour of meeting with His Eminence whenever they wished.

Some of the names of these fortunate per-sons who have had the honour of meeting the Imam are mentioned in the authentic book. Among these personalities are ‘Allamah Hilli the matter without claiming to have perceived him:

"O my son! If success in discovering the truth and mysteries has been granted to you, then I will inform you regarding Imam al-Mehdi ((عليه السلام).) in such a way that you will never have any doubt, and you will not need intellectual proofs and recorded traditions; because His Eminence is certainly alive and exists, and as long as Merciful Allah does not allow him to plan events, he is excused from revealing and declaring his workings. And this matter is not exclusively to him, but was usual among many prophets and their successors. Then you must know with confidence and consider it as your faith and creed. And know that the insight of your father into His Eminence is brighter than his knowledge of the world."

The honour of seeing Imam-e Zaman was not exclusive to some special Shi’ite scholars only, but many devout and illiterate people have also had this honour. We are completely amazed when we see people who at one time used to commit sinful and indecent acts, but who after their repentance, and after having their hearts filled with love for Imam-e Zaman, also had an opportunity to meet him, and among them were also our Sunni brothers.

One of the Sunni brothers was Hasan Iraqi who lived a life of immorality when he was young. One day, he suddenly awoke from the slumber of heedlessness and asked himself, "Was I created to commit these evil deeds?" Then he left the immoral place he was in and went directly to the mosque. By chance, a preacher there was speaking about Imam-Mehdi (as.). Iraqi ‘s fully disturbed soul turned into a heart flaming with enthusiastic love of the Imam. Henceforth, he invoked Allah after every prayer to give him the opportunity to see the Living Imam (BaqiyyatuIlah) Finally, his prayers were answered and for seven days and nights he learned the path of salvation in His Eminence’ a presence.

Thereafter, this man became known as one of the great scholars of Islam. ‘Abdu‘l-Wahhib Sha’rani, one of the great Sunni scholars, and the original relater of this anecdote, used to call him by the title, "My great master Shaykh Iraqi."

https://www.shiavault.com/books/imam-al-mehdi-may-allah-hasten-his-return/chapters/13-chapter-12-the-major-occultation/

[Eddie Mecca]

Salaam, Shi'ism should be built on strong and solid foundations and not fanciful gossiping stories of old women...if I had a dollar for every "the jinn stole my grandfather's food" story I've heard I'd be a millionaire...when civilizational decline hits rock bottom and becomes evident then belief in superstition, racism, tribalism etc. begins to increase...when the Muslims were at the height of their civilization...superstition, racism, tribalism etc. were almost nonexistent...this is what the historians tell us

[Eddie Mecca]

13 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

superstition

@Ashvazdanghe, Don't misunderstand what I'm saying…I believe in miracles and supernatural events and that these things can happen to everyday average people...even in or during the modern era...but you better do a lot of scrutinizing before you believe something...for every 10,000 stories of supernatural events, paranormal experiences etc. only 1 turns out to be true...we shouldn't let ourselves be influenced by modernism and attempt to make deviant "reforms" to Islam like the ideas of Muḥammad ‘Abduh for example...he was a hyper-rationalist and hyper-naturalist...but we shouldn't be superstitious gullible drones believing in any nonsense that presents itself either...both extremes should be shunned...even the Catholic Church goes through a very rigorous process before some modern event is deemed miraculous (e.g. Fátima, Portugal "Sun Miracle" etc.)

[Eddie Mecca]

13 hours ago, Eddie Mecca said:

superstition

@Ashvazdanghe, Salaam...dreams of the Imam (a) are in a different category altogether...perhaps this is possible

[Eddie Mecca]

On 7/25/2024 at 2:55 AM, Ashvazdanghe said:

‘Allamah Hilli the matter without claiming to have perceived him:

@Ashvazdanghe, If I met Allāmah al-Ḥillī (raḥmatu 'llāhi 'alay-hi) and asked him if he met the Imam (ṣallā -llāhu ʿalayhi wa-sallam) I expect he would either 1.) Laugh 2.) Become mildly upset or offended or 3.) Become highly upset and have me removed from his presence (the reason he would possibly become extremely upset is because I'm indirectly calling the man a liar and he would be keen enough to pick up on that) 

Edited July 27 by Eddie Mecca

[Eddie Mecca]

On 7/25/2024 at 2:55 AM, Ashvazdanghe said:

The honour of seeing Imam-e Zaman was not exclusive to some special Shi’ite scholars only, but many devout and illiterate people have also had this honour.

So what you're telling me is that the letter given to ʿAlī b. Muḥammad al-Samurī (Allah's mercy upon him) is a forgery? "May Allah reward your brothers for they will grieve for you, since in fact you are going to depart after six days; therefore, make your preparations and do not assign anyone as your successor for the second occultation has started, for a long time there will be no reappearance before Allah's leave, after the hearts (of people) are filled with rigidity and the world with injustice. There will come to my followers (Shi'as) people who claim they have seen me, but be aware! Whoever claims seeing me before the Uprising of al-Sufyani and the heavenly cry, he surely is a liar."  

 Ṣadūq, Kamāl al-dīn, vol. 2, p. 516; Ṭabrisī, al-Iḥtijāj, vol. 2, p. 555-556.

Edited July 27 by Eddie Mecca

[Ashvazdanghe]

1 hour ago, Eddie Mecca said:

o what you're telling me is that the letter given to ʿAlī b. Muḥammad al-Samurī (Allah's mercy upon him) is a forgery? "

Salam this hadith is about ending of minor occultation which has means after that nobody can claim himself as special deputy in similar fashion four special deputies but on th other hand connection of Imam Mahdi (aj) will continue through general deputies as "Narrators of Hadiths" likewise Marjas which maybe receive guidance from Imam Mahdi indirectly in most cases or directly in special urgent cases ; which you delusion in similar fashion of Sheikhism which leads to innovation of Bobism so then Bahaism .

[313_Waiter]

3 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

in similar fashion of Sheikhism which leads to innovation of Bobism so then Bahaism .

Very interesting. I don't know anything about this. Please expand

[Ashvazdanghe]

19 hours ago, 313_Waiter said:

Very interesting. I don't know anything about this. Please expand

Salam founder of Sheikhism believed that Imam Mahdi (aj) lives somewhere out of world as حور قلیا HurQlaya as a limbo so therefore nobody can vist him until time of his reappearance which founder of Sheikhism is his special deputy between people who only has access to him so then in similar fashion  M.A.Bab has followed his distorted doctrine so then called himself as new Mahdi  so then founder of Bahaism followed their heritage so then called himself at first as advented Mahdi so then new prophet after prophet Muhammad (pbu) .

[H AL M]

H AL M

Meeting Imam Mahdy and Prophet Al Khidr in connection with the establishment of Jamkaran Mosque in Qum from a reliable source below.

https://www.al-islam.org/history-masjid-jamkaran/history-masjid-jamkaran

 

[Eddie Mecca]

@Ashvazdanghe, Baháʼí Faith and Bábism are indeed innovations...Shaykhism (on the other hand) is based on an exotic interpretation of certain ideas regarding mysticism, Day of Judgement etc...there's some overlap between Shaykhism and Bábism but not enough to warrant allegations of unbelief, disbelief, apostasy etc.

[Ashvazdanghe]

Salam . @Eddie Mecca Shaykhism has been initiating of two major innovations of Baháʼísm and Bábism  which in Islam there is no difference between  minor innovation of Shaykhism & major innovations of Baháʼísm and Bábism which all three innovation will be in hell which Baháʼísm is not a faith at all which is just a  cult which is based on most satanic innovations which has been initiated by innovating Shaykhism .

[Borntowitnesstruth]

On 7/20/2024 at 8:06 AM, Eddie Mecca said:

@H AL M, According to the aḥadīth it's impossible to meet al-Mahdī (peace be upon him) while he's in the Greater Occultation...I'm assuming that these aḥadīth are ṣaḥīḥ...the traditions say that whoever claims he (she) has met the Mahdi during the Greater Occultation is a liar (paraphrase)...there are slightly differing accounts of the same narration...the people who maintain that it's possible to meet him argue that the problem lies not with physically meeting him during the present time-period...but rather with broadcasting this news loudly and abroad...they use a technicality where the narration says "whoever claims" to justify their stance / position

You must understand what is the context of these Ahadith. One of the interpretation of these ahadith is that in the phase of Major Occultation, the role of representators of Imam Mehdi (عليه السلام) has come to an end as was in the time of four representators in the time of minor occultation, thus, anyone claiming that he is representative of Imam Mehid (عليه السلام) shall be considered as a liar. But, in their own words, the holy Imams when asked how would Imam Mehdi (عليه السلام) help this ummah after occultation, they replied that like how a sun benefits the earth behind the clouds. Hence, it is said that the communication with Imam Mehdi (عليه السلام) will remain intact but not like in normal days before minor occultation nor like in minor occultation but when Allah (عزّ وجلّ) wills. 

[Abu Nur]

On 7/25/2024 at 5:58 AM, Eddie Mecca said:

"Hundreds of very pious Ulama and believers have met Imam Al-Mahdi (عليه السلام) in hundreds of occasions.

This is what mostly happened. I believe that Pious (Those who purified their heart)  people do meet him, be it in dreams or in a vision or sound when you are in consciousness (This is because the veil is removed and soul will see). He does not need to be physically present. Physically present mean that everyone around him will witness him if he is near a person. But from all the stories and witnessing, it always has to do with person such that only very few observe him while others can not observe him.

Edited September 1 by Abu Nur

[Lion of Shia]

Sean Stone claims to have seen Imam Mahdi(عليه السلام)

[khadumvaliasr]

On 7/25/2024 at 2:55 AM, Ashvazdanghe said:

The honour of seeing Imam-e Zaman was not exclusive to some special Shi’ite scholars only, but many devout and illiterate people have also had this honour.

I am also of the view that some are able to see him and he is in contact with some specific people in the world.

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 9/5/2024 at 6:13 AM, Lion of Shia said:

Sean Stone claims to have seen Imam Mahdi(عليه السلام)

Salam there is no story about him which he just has mentioned that he has had a strange dream which he has not mentioned content of his dream but some people has claimed that he has seen Imam Mahdi (aj) although Sean Stone himself has not claimed anything about his dream . 

[Lion of Shia]

On 9/27/2024 at 11:24 PM, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam there is no story about him which he just has mentioned that he has had a strange dream which he has not mentioned content of his dream but some people has claimed that he has seen Imam Mahdi (aj) although Sean Stone himself has not claimed anything about his dream . 

oh ok then, thats what i heard

[313_Waiter]

On 9/28/2024 at 2:24 PM, Ashvazdanghe said:

On 9/5/2024 at 12:43 PM, Lion of Shia said:

 

Salam there is no story about him which he just has mentioned that he has had a strange dream which he has not mentioned content of his dream but some people has claimed that he has seen Imam Mahdi (aj) although Sean Stone himself has not claimed anything about his dream

Is Sean stone still Shia?

He seems to be more into the “spirituality” or “new age” stuff these days. 
 

maybe he is an irfani type muslim

of course we assume the best as Muslims.

[Gaza313]

On 7/18/2024 at 11:23 AM, H AL M said:

Can anyone comment on the following short video clip showing the Grand Ayatollah Kamal Hyderi talking about Imam Mahdy? Is this the current view of the Shias?

 

In occultation, we, the followers, cannot meet Imam by our own will, however Imam can meet us whenever, wherever, and whoever he wishes. It is quite possible that Ayatollah Kamal tried and could not meet Imam but IMHO Its a very rigid stance to deny that Imam never met anyone as it contradicts the whole concept of Imamate of Shia Islam.