Breaking news! Possible assassination attempt at Trump rally

[Lion of Shia]

“You could clearly see him with a rifle,” the man, wearing a MAGA 2020 hat, told BBC News.

“We’re pointing at him. The police are down there running around on the ground.

“We’re like, ‘Hey, man, this guy on the roof with a rifle.’ And the police were like, ‘Huh?’ They didn’t know what was going on.”

 

Witness tried to warn police about a person with a rifle on the roof of a building near the Trump rally before the former president was shot. X @rawsalerts© Provided by New York Post

 

The man told BBC News that police had “no idea” what was going on when they were notified about the sniper.© Provided by New York Post

this BBC interview with a guy outside the security perimeter who claims he saw the shooter before he fired is absolutely wild pic.twitter.com/vJpKZTxSAe

— Warren Sharp (@SharpFootball) July 13, 2024

The witness claimed he and his friends tried warning police for several minutes as Secret Service members watched on, choosing not to take action until between five and eight shots were fired, the origins of which he said “100%” came from the rifle-carrying man.

 

“He was up there for a couple of minutes, absolutely at least three, four minutes. We were pointing at him for the Secret Service, who were looking at us from the top of the barn. They were looking at us the whole time.”

 

Secret Service agents rushing to Trump after he was shot on stage. REUTERS/Brendan McDermid© Provided by New York Post

 

Police snipers return fire after shots were fired at Trump during the rally. AP Photo/Gene J. Puskar© Provided by New York Post

Only after the gunman fired did police neutralize the threat: “They blew his head off.”

Elon Musk posted the video on X, writing, “The head of the Secret Service and the leader of this security detail should resign.”

Former President Donald Trump was swarmed by Secret Service agents and rushed off stage as possible shots were heard during a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, on Saturday.

There appeared to be blood on his right ear as he was being taken off stage, as Trump was seen mouthing "fight" and pumping his fist.

A spokesperson for Trump said in a statement, "President Trump thanks law enforcement and first responders for their quick action during this heinous act. He is fine and is being checked out at a local medical facility."

A shooter is dead, Butler County District Attorney Richard A. Goldinger told ABC News.

One bystander is "confirmed dead," and "possibly a second" bystander is dead as well, Goldinger added.

 

Republican presidential candidate former President Donald Trump is rushed offstage during a rally on July 13, 2024, in Butler, Pa.© Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images

The incident is being investigated as a possible assassination attempt, officials briefed on the situation told ABC News.

The officials said live rounds were apparently fired from outside the security perimeter.

Donald Trump Jr., told ABC News he has spoken to his father, who remains at the hospital. He said his father is "in good spirits" as he remains under observation, adding that his father is "never gonna stop."

 

Republican presidential candidate former President Donald Trump is surrounded by U.S. Secret Service agents at a campaign rally, Saturday, July 13, 2024, in Butler, Pa.© Evan Vucci/AP

 

Republican presidential candidate former President Donald Trump is helped off the stage at a campaign event in Butler, Pa., on Saturday, July 13, 2024.© Gene J. Puskar/AP

Dave McCormick, who's running for U.S. Senate, told ABC News he was in the front row of the rally. He said he heard "seven or eight" shots fired.

"People started to panic," he said. "Everyone dropped to the ground."

Trump began his speech at about 6 p.m. and was only shortly into his speech when a disturbance caused Secret Service to swarm the former president. He was then led off the stage quickly, pumping his fist on stage and also as he was helped into a vehicle to be taken away.

Heavily armed security personnel got on stage as he was led off.

"An incident occurred the evening of July 13 at a Trump rally in Pennsylvania," the Secret Service said in a statement. "The Secret Service has implemented protective measures and the former President is safe. This is now an active Secret Service investigation and further information will be released when available."

The White House said in a statement, "The President has received an initial briefing on the incident at Former President Trump's rally."

 

Republican presidential candidate former President Donald Trump is surrounded by U.S. Secret Service agents at a campaign rally, Saturday, July 13, 2024, in Butler, Pa.© Evan Vucci/AP

 

Republican presidential candidate former President Donald Trump is helped off the stage at a campaign event in Butler, Pa., July 13, 2024.© Gene J. Puskar/AP

"Violence targeted at any political party or political leader is absolutely unacceptable," Pennsylvania Democratic Gov. Josh Shapiro said in a statement. "It has no place in Pennsylvania or the United States."

Ohio Sen. J.D. Vance, a possible vice president pick, wrote on social media, "Everyone join me in praying for our President Trump and everyone at that rally. I hope everyone is ok."

North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum, a possible vice presidential pick, posted to X, calling for prayers for the former president.

"Please join Kathryn and me in praying for President Trump, his family and everyone attending the rally today."

Another vice presidential hopeful, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, also posted on X asking for prayers for Trump and those at the rally.

"Praying for President Trump and all those attending the rally in Pennsylvania today."

"ATF is responding to assist the U.S. Secret Service and other law enforcement partners. This is a top priority. We have no further comment at this time," ATF said in a statement.

This is a developing story. 

[Silas]

In the last few weeks, the rhetoric against Trump has gotten more violent and alarming

the New Republic declared Trump a second Hitler who must be stopped using any and all means

Biden has referred to Trump as a "threat to Democracy" and a "Fascist". He said a few days ago that we "need to put Trump in the bullseye"

Democratic House of Representatives members have said that Trump wants to arrest his political enemies, enact discriminatory laws against blacks, and create a Christian theocracy (all of this is complete nonsense)

hundreds of TikTok and other social media personalities have demanded violence against Trump

and here we are: someone tried to kill him

I am living in some kind of third-world nation these days 

[Haji 2003]

Will this pic win him the Presidency?

I am not insinuating a plot on his part.

 

[Abu Hadi]

The whole thing seems staged to me. I am waiting for them to release the names of the bystanders who were killed and the shooter so an investigation can be done by outside media, not affiliated with Trump or his campaign. Then we will find out what really happened, hopefully. 

Just by looking at it, that wound is either not a real wound, i.e. a blood capsule, or from a very small calibre rifle, like a .22. There is no injury at all except to the top of one ear. 

Why on earth would someone go to all that trouble, knowing that there was a high likelihood of them being killed, just to use a small round like that knowing that it probably wouldn't finish the job (i.e. kill him) unless you got a direct hit thru the skull and knowing it is very unlikely you will get multiple shots off before the secret service takes you out. 

Sniper rifles use either .45 or .50 cal ammo. because they know they only have one shot or possibly two maximum to get the job done. If he was hit with either of those, even if it grazed the top of his ear, it would have taken his whole ear off, not just a small part at the top. The whole side of his face and his neck would have been covered in blood. 

Also, the first reaction of any human being after their shot is to put their head down or dive on the floor, so they don't get shot again. That is you survival instincts kicking in. For someone to get shot in the head, then keep their head up like that means they knew they were not going to get shot again or they knew beforehand what was going to happen. It reminds me of the staged moment when they told Bush what happened on 9/11 minutes after it happened and his first reaction was anger and not surprise, which is the universal human reaction in that situation. 

Edited July 14 by Abu Hadi

[notme]

A witness told the media that many members of the crowd had seen the alleged shooter on the roof with a rifle, and had reported him to police and secret service several minutes before the shooting. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c51yly4085lo

The suspect has been identified as Thomas Crooks, a 20-year-old Republican who lived in nearby Butler, Pennsylvania.  

Edited July 14 by notme

[Abu Hadi]

5 hours ago, notme said:

A witness told the media that many members of the crowd had seen the alleged shooter on the roof with a rifle, and had reported him to police and secret service several minutes before the shooting. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/videos/c51yly4085lo

The suspect has been identified as Thomas Crooks, a 20-year-old Republican who lived in nearby Butler, Pennsylvania.  

And that's even more proof to me that it was staged. As soon as it's reported, Trump would be pushed off the stage, if this was a real situation. That's why those security guys have ear pieces. They all talk to each other. They would send a code out (the code for man with a gun) and immediately, within seconds, Trump would be off the stage. The fact that this didn't happen after a man with a gun was reported is extremely, extremely odd. 

[Guest111]

1 hour ago, Abu Hadi said:

And that's even more proof to me that it was staged. As soon as it's reported, Trump would be pushed off the stage, if this was a real situation. That's why those security guys have ear pieces. They all talk to each other. They would send a code out (the code for man with a gun) and immediately, within seconds, Trump would be off the stage. The fact that this didn't happen after a man with a gun was reported is extremely, extremely odd. 

Weren't the people who saw the shooter just saying they pointed at the guy as a gesture to the security officials? Maybe the secret service just didn't notice them.

It seems quite unlikely that the FBI, democrats and basically all news networks couldn't tell if it was staged since they all called it an assassination attempt. I think it can just be chalked up as the secret service failing to do their job in preventing this.

 

There's also the fact that one of the attendees at the rally, Corey Comperatore, was killed as well as the shooter himself, which makes it being fake even less likely.

[Silas]

I have two primary theories on this--let me know what you all think

THEORY ONE: Shooter was hired to kill Trump by the Ukrainians (Zelensky).

that might sound a bit crazy, but here is the evidence:

1. The shooter, Thomas Crooks, was said to be politically moderate or conservative. His classmates at his high-school said he leaned conservative, and was relatively open about it. So the idea that Crooks was motivated by far-left ideology, or hatred for Trump, seems far-fetched.

2. The shooter has almost no social media profile or digital signature whatsoever. The only evidence of him interacting online with people is on a Discord server devoted to gun enthusiasts. 

3. The shooter was young, naive, impressionable, and a good marksman

4. The shooter was also very low on funds

5. There was no manifesto, letters, or evidence of the shooters motives or beliefs. If he had been seeking fame or attention, we would have seen this. Instead, he completely covered his tracks. 

6. The one person in the world who has the most to lost from a Trump victory in November is Zelensky. Trump will not provide new monetary or military support to Ukraine--and that country could then get steam-rolled by the Russians. Another person who will suffer is Hunter Biden, who could be thrown in jail if Trump becomes president. Hunter has contacts with the Ukrainian underworld ...

7. Because Trump has not named a running-mate (VP), if he had been killed, all the campaign contributions (hundreds of millions of dollars) would not be accessible to the new candidate. It would be a disaster for the GOP.

So it is highly possible that a Ukrainian operative sought out a shooter in various Discord servers and then started private messaging. The shooter could have ended up with $200,000 in BTC and an encrypted phone in which instructions were sent to him. Crooks would have been given a map of the site, and strict instructions to cover all his tracks. The phone and BTC wallet is probably in a safety-deposit box somewhere.

THEORY TWO:

The Shooter was radicalized at community college between 2022-2024. As a lonely guy who had trouble fitting in, he could have fallen in with a far-left militant group like ANTIFA, or "Redneck Revolt" (an armed, militant leftist group). He would have been given instructions by the group to keep his contacts and motives a secret, and operate under-the-radar. 

[Diaz]

1 hour ago, Silas said:

I have two primary theories on this--let me know what you all think

THEORY ONE: Shooter was hired to kill Trump by the Ukrainians (Zelensky).

that might sound a bit crazy, but here is the evidence:

1. The shooter, Thomas Crooks, was said to be politically moderate or conservative. His classmates at his high-school said he leaned conservative, and was relatively open about it. So the idea that Crooks was motivated by far-left ideology, or hatred for Trump, seems far-fetched.

2. The shooter has almost no social media profile or digital signature whatsoever. The only evidence of him interacting online with people is on a Discord server devoted to gun enthusiasts. 

3. The shooter was young, naive, impressionable, and a good marksman

4. The shooter was also very low on funds

5. There was no manifesto, letters, or evidence of the shooters motives or beliefs. If he had been seeking fame or attention, we would have seen this. Instead, he completely covered his tracks. 

6. The one person in the world who has the most to lost from a Trump victory in November is Zelensky. Trump will not provide new monetary or military support to Ukraine--and that country could then get steam-rolled by the Russians. Another person who will suffer is Hunter Biden, who could be thrown in jail if Trump becomes president. Hunter has contacts with the Ukrainian underworld ...

7. Because Trump has not named a running-mate (VP), if he had been killed, all the campaign contributions (hundreds of millions of dollars) would not be accessible to the new candidate. It would be a disaster for the GOP.

So it is highly possible that a Ukrainian operative sought out a shooter in various Discord servers and then started private messaging. The shooter could have ended up with $200,000 in BTC and an encrypted phone in which instructions were sent to him. Crooks would have been given a map of the site, and strict instructions to cover all his tracks. The phone and BTC wallet is probably in a safety-deposit box somewhere.

THEORY TWO:

The Shooter was radicalized at community college between 2022-2024. As a lonely guy who had trouble fitting in, he could have fallen in with a far-left militant group like ANTIFA, or "Redneck Revolt" (an armed, militant leftist group). He would have been given instructions by the group to keep his contacts and motives a secret, and operate under-the-radar. 

The first theory makes a lot of sense tbh. But why will trump throw hunter to the jail once he becomes a president?

[Hameedeh]

15 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

Will this pic win him the Presidency?

The pic was manipulated. I was texting two relatives about a family friend who was ill, and had no knowledge about the shooting. One of my relatives called me and asked me to turn on my television. I was watching three different channels that were showing the clip of the stage and what happened. Some of the people sitting behind former president Trump were holding small signs saying "Joe Biden You're fired" and there was no American flag anywhere near the podium or the stage. Someone added the flag to the photo. 

Trump Rally Shooting in Pennsylvania

 

Edited July 15 by Hameedeh
Link

[Hameedeh]

14 hours ago, Abu Hadi said:

Just by looking at it, that wound is either not a real wound, i.e. a blood capsule, or from a very small calibre rifle, like a .22. There is no injury at all except to the top of one ear. 

Not going to lie. The blood capsule thing was a thought that I had. There were no efforts to help injured people near Mr. Trump and I thought shouldn't there be at least one injured person near him? 

[Diaz]

Edited July 15 by Hameedeh
Profanity in the image was removed.

[Hameedeh]

3 hours ago, Silas said:

THEORY ONE: Shooter was hired to kill Trump by the Ukrainians (Zelensky).

Or any other country.  After Mr. Trump left the stage and secret service were surrounding him to get him into the car, the audience started shouting USA, USA, USA. That seemed odd to me, like they thought someone from another country had shot him. 

[Muhammed Ali]

3 hours ago, Silas said:

I have two primary theories on this--let me know what you all think

 

It's possible to invent 100 alternate theories like these. 

 

Why add so much specificity to your theories when it reduces the probability?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conjunction_fallacy

Quote

 

The most often-cited example of this fallacy originated with Amos Tversky and Daniel Kahneman.[2][3][4]

Linda is 31 years old, single, outspoken, and very bright. She majored in philosophy. As a student, she was deeply concerned with issues of discrimination and social justice, and also participated in anti-nuclear demonstrations.

Which is more probable?

1. Linda is a bank teller.
2. Linda is a bank teller and is active in the feminist movement.

 

 

Edited July 15 by Muhammed Ali

[Haji 2003]

9 hours ago, Hameedeh said:

The blood capsule thing was a thought that I had.

 

[notme]

My (adult) son mentioned that the shooter was a self-professed "pedophile hunter". I have not seen verification of this claim online.  My son said that it was mentioned on Discord.  

[notme]

Sarcasm shouts truth.  

[Guest Hussein]

14 minutes ago, Haji 2003 said:

 

Someone died, this isn't fake. This could be theoriesed to be a false flag, but this isn't fake. 

[notme]

Why is the flag in the famous photo upside down? You don't display an upside down flag at a rally.  

[Abu Hadi]

I am saying for 100% sure it is fake at this point, but come on. Let's look at all the unusual things that don't normally happen surrounding this incident. These are all documented in the US media, btw. 

1. Minutes before the shooting, witnesses were shouting there's a man with a gun on the roof. The secret service didn't do anything, like maybe get Trump off the stage

2. The guy used small calibre ammo with a long range rifle. This is a mistake probably not even a 12 year old kid first learning how to shoot would make (if he wanted to kill someone)

3. When he was shot, Trump's head was angled perfectly so that there would be no real injury, only damage to a minimal amount of cartilage at the top of the ear. 

4. Trump got up, seconds after he was shot at and exposed his entire head, after being shot in the head a few seconds ago. This means that either he has no survival instincts (like even animals have this) or he knew seconds after getting shot that he wouldn't get shot again, i.e. he never got shot and it was a blood capsule. It's either one of the two, and I don't think its the first. He wouldn't have lived this long if he had no survival instincts and he grew up in New York during the most dangerous time in NYC history (i.e. the late 70s early 80s). So how could he know he wasn't going to get shot again unless the thing was pre planned ? 

Everyone, including Trump knows, when you hear gunshots, and especially if you are shot yourself, you duck and hide / run. You don't stick your head up all the way after being shot. This flex that he was trying to do I think will backfire on him and ultimately expose him. 

About the guy and people being killed. There is a long history going back to the JFK assasination and before of prominent people using 'patsies' or stooges (extremely dumb and naive people) and promising them things if they help them in the plot and then killing them either afterward or in the process. There are many documented cases of this. 

The people in the audience getting killed could have just been crossfire from the secret service or the guy just starting to shoot randomly. 

Like I said, not 100% sure it was fake but percentages are getting into the 90s now. as evidence is coming out. 

Edited July 15 by Abu Hadi

[Haji 2003]

The man who died in the Trump shooting

Was Corey Comperatore, he used to post on social media....this is his profile on Twitter/X

https://x.com/Corey_Comper/with_replies

As you scroll down, you find this. He sounds like a sympathetic and wholesome kinda guy.

 

[mahmood8726]

2 hours ago, Abu Hadi said:

I am saying for 100% sure it is fake at this point, but come on. Let's look at all the unusual things that don't normally happen surrounding this incident. These are all documented in the US media, btw. 

1. Minutes before the shooting, witnesses were shouting there's a man with a gun on the roof. The secret service didn't do anything, like maybe get Trump off the stage

2. The guy used small calibre ammo with a long range rifle. This is a mistake probably not even a 12 year old kid first learning how to shoot would make (if he wanted to kill someone)

3. When he was shot, Trump's head was angled perfectly so that there would be no real injury, only damage to a minimal amount of cartilage at the top of the ear. 

4. Trump got up, seconds after he was shot at and exposed his entire head, after being shot in the head a few seconds ago. This means that either he has no survival instincts (like even animals have this) or he knew seconds after getting shot that he wouldn't get shot again, i.e. he never got shot and it was a blood capsule. It's either one of the two, and I don't think its the first. He wouldn't have lived this long if he had no survival instincts and he grew up in New York during the most dangerous time in NYC history (i.e. the late 70s early 80s). So how could he know he wasn't going to get shot again unless the thing was pre planned ? 

Everyone, including Trump knows, when you hear gunshots, and especially if you are shot yourself, you duck and hide / run. You don't stick your head up all the way after being shot. This flex that he was trying to do I think will backfire on him and ultimately expose him. 

About the guy and people being killed. There is a long history going back to the JFK assasination and before of prominent people using 'patsies' or stooges (extremely dumb and naive people) and promising them things if they help them in the plot and then killing them either afterward or in the process. There are many documented cases of this. 

The people in the audience getting killed could have just been crossfire from the secret service or the guy just starting to shoot randomly. 

Like I said, not 100% sure it was fake but percentages are getting into the 90s now. as evidence is coming out. 

I'm not a fan of these kind of conspiracies, I'll tell you why. 

1) Biden or the democratic party for that matter, have been performing catastrophically for the better part of a year now, especially when most liberals saw democrats for the filthy hypocritical liars that they are and realized how they're no different than Republicans. They saw how they enabled a genocide to take place in Gaza, the democrats are extreemly unpopular now. Then you had biden messing up big time during the debate 2 weeks ago because liberals were in denial about that senile lunatic for the better part of 3 years now.

Essentially, trump was already winning without even speaking a word, it makes zero sense to say that he staged this in order to win, especially staging something like this which has a high risk of blowing his head up if he turned 1 degree to his side. This to me makes zero sense. 

 

2) Someone got killed, are we going to gloss over the fact that someone just got killed? How do you stage this??? 

 

3) Everyone here seems to forget the kadr of Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى), it was not his time to die, the people saying this was staged are the same people who went into crazy conspiracy theories about raisi being assassinated. You're all muslims, sometimes Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) wills something crazy to happen.

 

As far as him being exposed, I think the opposite will happen. As much as I hate trump for the filthy zionist that he is, beleive me, if this was staged, the democrats and many republicans would viciously eat him alive and point it out. All I am seeing is potential lawsuits to networks like CNN, msnbc, etc... for their orange man bad derangment syndrome. Allah(سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) knows if he will file lawsuits for defamation, slander or whatever. 

[mahmood8726]

13 minutes ago, Haji 2003 said:

The man who died in the Trump shooting

Was Corey Comperatore, he used to post on social media....this is his profile on Twitter/X

https://x.com/Corey_Comper/with_replies

As you scroll down, you find this. He sounds like a sympathetic and wholesome kinda guy.

 

The person who got killed was a pro israel propagandist, more proof this isn't staged. 

[Azadeh307]

5 hours ago, notme said:

 

Why is the flag in the famous photo upside down? You don't display an upside down flag at a rally.  

 

Good question. I was wondering the same thing. 

[Aamanee]

On 7/14/2024 at 12:55 PM, Abu Hadi said:

The whole thing seems staged to me. I am waiting for them to release the names of the bystanders who were killed and the shooter so an investigation can be done by outside media, not affiliated with Trump or his campaign. Then we will find out what really happened, hopefully. 

Just by looking at it, that wound is either not a real wound, i.e. a blood capsule, or from a very small calibre rifle, like a .22. There is no injury at all except to the top of one ear. 

Why on earth would someone go to all that trouble, knowing that there was a high likelihood of them being killed, just to use a small round like that knowing that it probably wouldn't finish the job (i.e. kill him) unless you got a direct hit thru the skull and knowing it is very unlikely you will get multiple shots off before the secret service takes you out. 

Sniper rifles use either .45 or .50 cal ammo. because they know they only have one shot or possibly two maximum to get the job done. If he was hit with either of those, even if it grazed the top of his ear, it would have taken his whole ear off, not just a small part at the top. The whole side of his face and his neck would have been covered in blood. 

Also, the first reaction of any human being after their shot is to put their head down or dive on the floor, so they don't get shot again. That is you survival instincts kicking in. For someone to get shot in the head, then keep their head up like that means they knew they were not going to get shot again or they knew beforehand what was going to happen. It reminds me of the staged moment when they told Bush what happened on 9/11 minutes after it happened and his first reaction was anger and not surprise, which is the universal human reaction in that situation. 

Seems Staged to me too It "just scraped his ear " didn't hurt him any other way and the fist in the air proves it he wants to be top news he kinda got as all the west is going crazy for this rubbish 

[Haji 2003]

 

[Abu Hadi]

On 7/15/2024 at 2:05 PM, Azadeh307 said:

Good question. I was wondering the same thing. 

An upside down flag is a sign of extreme distress. Among this crowd, it means the US as it is under the Biden Admin / Liberals is completely messed up (upside down). 

[notme]

I saw this article.  

https://ssnews.page.link/x4dZYnhN2HVX8qdT7

Which claims that security for the event was increased due to a Iranian assassination plot.  If that was increased security, imagine what regular security would have been like! 

[Muhammed Ali]

On 7/15/2024 at 1:45 PM, Abu Hadi said:

4. Trump got up, seconds after he was shot at and exposed his entire head, after being shot in the head a few seconds ago. This means that either he has no survival instincts (like even animals have this) or he knew seconds after getting shot that he wouldn't get shot again, i.e. he never got shot and it was a blood capsule.

Maybe a combination of these things:

1, He was told that the shooter had been taken care of. "shooter's down" was said a number of times before they got up. Listen to it here: https://youtu.be/qLybWj-ojck?t=52

2, Adrenaline rush. He is in front of an audience that loves him and he feels a level of excitement from the incident which makes him act irrationally.   

3, Egotism is his life. It doesn't surprise me that showing off was one of the first things that came to his mind. He showed off when he caught Covid by driving past his supporters and did a dramatic helicopter fly in and removed his mask when he returned to the White House.

[Haji 2003]

Americans don't need to buy this - it's just for storage in long-term memory

 

so the general impression remains that Iranians are always up to no good and thereby excuse any future military action against Iran

 

 

[Abu Hadi]

31 minutes ago, Haji 2003 said:

Americans don't need to buy this - it's just for storage in long-term memory

 

so the general impression remains that Iranians are always up to no good and thereby excuse any future military action against Iran

 

 

This is a propaganda technique used by the Nazis and others. Just associate your enemy with anything negative and do it often. The association doesn't have to be true or real, and eventually hatred will develop in the people toward that enemy, because most people will never bother to look into the facts of the issue. CNN is part of the propaganda machine that carries this out. 

The only obstacle, at this point, to US domination of the ME and S.Asia is Iran. They keep the American public 'primed and ready' so that if they find a way at some point to do a successful military attack on the Iranian govt, the US public is primed and ready for it. 

Edited July 17 by Abu Hadi

[mahmood8726]

4 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

Americans don't need to buy this - it's just for storage in long-term memory

 

so the general impression remains that Iranians are always up to no good and thereby excuse any future military action against Iran

 

 

The source was and I quote "human source".

[notme]

Most of the people I interact with are non-Muslim, and I don't know anyone under the age of 65 who believes the "news" item that Iran was plotting to assassinate Trump.  

However, I've seen a lot of my contacts offering up their "thoughts and prayers", whatever that's worth..

[Hameedeh]

On 7/14/2024 at 9:37 PM, Hameedeh said:

there was no American flag anywhere near the podium or the stage. Someone added the flag to the photo. 

Trump Rally Shooting in Pennsylvania

From the videos that I saw on the day of the shooting, from three different news channels, there was no visible flag anywhere near Mr. Trump. However, from another viewpoint, there was a US flag hanging very high in the sky between two cranes. This photo was used as a thumbnail for a video on youtube called WATCH: Pennsylvania officials provide update following Trump rally shooting

 

[Hameedeh]

On 7/14/2024 at 9:45 PM, Hameedeh said:

 There were no efforts to help injured people near Mr. Trump and I thought shouldn't there be at least one injured person near him? 

This was incorrect and I need to explain it. All the channels that I watched were only filming Mr. Trump and the secret service agents that came up on stage to surround him. They kept showing the clip over and over. I guess that people in the bleachers behind the podium were just bystanders and the news organizations were focused only on Mr. Trump. Yesterday I did see a video that shows two people being carried away from the bleachers when people screamed that they they were ill or injured during the shooting.