Righteous Non-Muslims

[Jeffrey-N]

@Ashvazdanghe I want to clarify, I meant that the planes destruction had nothing to do with the sandstorm, it was with inner failures. The only damage the Sandstorm did was 2 helicopters, one of which was severely damaged, but not taken out by the sandstorm.

12 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Yeah it has been bad for great Satan  so then has been good for friends of God

So torturing innocent civilians and diplomats is good for God and not for Satan? I'm quite confused, that makes no sense.

[Ashvazdanghe]

5 hours ago, Jeffrey-N said:

So torturing innocent civilians and diplomats is good for God and not for Satan? I'm quite confused, that makes no sense.

Hi  @Jeffrey-N your rhetoric about torturing diplomats has no evidence or document which you have parroted nonsense based on baseless accusation of anti Iran propaganda which your nonsense have been refuted many times which even american officials during hostage crisis have not mentioned anything about torturing or even humiliation which only you have parroted it based on your whims & anti Iran propaganda without having any evidence for your nonsense .

5 hours ago, Jeffrey-N said:

I want to clarify, I meant that the planes destruction had nothing to do with the sandstorm, it was with inner failures. The only damage the Sandstorm did was 2 helicopters, one of which was severely damaged, but not taken out by the sandstorm.

you have just tried to downplay everything through alternation of history & facts by parroting baseless nonsense based on your biased fake patriotism due to fooling yourself by American propaganda against Iran . 

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 9/21/2025 at 4:14 PM, Abu Hassanain said:

I’ve also heard the story mentioned in many many gatherings of Indo Pak Clegery during June 3 Majalis 

Salam unfortunately it's exaggeration of event by Indo Pak Clergerie by forging the real story.

On 9/21/2025 at 4:14 PM, Abu Hassanain said:

It has become famous in many parts of the US interesting if it’s not discussed like that in Iran, but I’d be interested in hearing what the scholars were in their 80s and 90s and lived at that time said or remembered

It's still famous in Iran which it's been remembered every year until now  in Iran as miraculous event in similar fashion of defeating of army of elephants by Allah for protection of Kaaba when everyone specially Imam Khomeini (رضي الله عنه) has been unaware of it until next day after foiling of the American operation of eagle claw .

In his Friday prayer sermon on 12/02/1359 (Friday - May 02, 1980), Seyyed Ali Khamenei, the Imam of Friday prayer of Tehran, spoke to the worshippers about his observations of America's defeat in the Tabas Desert. Reciting the verse of the Holy Quran, "Have you not seen how your Lord dealt with the companions of the elephant?", he likened America's defeat to the defeat of the companions of the elephant in destroying the Kaaba. He promised the people that oppressive civilizations are on the verge of destruction, and the nose of the oppressor and aggressor will be rubbed in the dust. Just as the Tabas Desert became the burial ground for steel elephants, the entire Middle East region will become the burial ground for America's war machine.

On  12 Ordibehesht (Friday - May 02, 1980) , Imam Khomeini (عليه السلام) also reminded the commanders of the Revolutionary Guards, referring to the US defeat in Tabas, that the US violated international law by militarily invading Iran and did not achieve its goal, and despite all that propaganda and equipment, it suffered a severe psychological and political blow. He continued by reminding them that Muslim Iranians, believing in life after death and the existence of young people seeking martyrdom, are not afraid of great powers. If America ever again desires to invade Iran, the young people seeking martyrdom will destroy them. On 14 khordad (June 04, 1980), in the presence of delegations participating in the "International Conference on the Study of American Interventions," he reminded them that in the past, Iranian governments listened to the orders of foreigners, and that they, especially the US, had committed countless crimes in Iran, and that the Pahlavi regime had responded to the people's protests from  15 Khordad (June 04, 1978) until the victory of the revolution by killing and torturing thousands of people. He spoke about the widespread propaganda of foreigners against Iran and the creation of obstacles, and added that Allah, just as He destroyed the people of Aad by means of the wind, will also destroy enemies by creating fear and terror in the hearts of the enemies. He further asked the participants in the conference to observe the documents and evidence of the crimes committed by American agents in Iran and to realize that the American embassy does not resemble an embassy. On 20 Tir 1359 (July 11, 1980), he also spoke about the mission of wind and sand to destroy the enemies of Islam, and on 24 Esfand 1360 (March 15, 1982) , in the gathering of the families of the martyrs of the Amol incident, he referred to the unseen help of Allah for the people of Iran, referring to the power of faith and unity of the word, and referring to the Tabas incident, he noted that the Americans came to seize Iran under the pretext of releasing the hostages, and Allah defeated them by sending sand and wind.

On 9/21/2025 at 4:14 PM, Abu Hassanain said:

Narrations can take a life of their own and grow out of proportion, for sometimes stories are less famous one places than another place

the origin of narration & story is Iran which it has been recorded well so therefore there is no need to exaggerate about it in similar fashion of  Indo Pak Clergerie  .

http://www.imam-khomeini.ir/fa/c504_2661/زندگی_نامه/رهبری/واقعه_طبس

[Ashvazdanghe]

On 9/18/2025 at 6:31 AM, Jeffrey-N said:

Can you just give me the quote for Carter. As for the storm, like I said it damaged one of the helicopters, it didn't directly knock them out of the sky.

Hi

On 9/17/2025 at 8:05 PM, Abu Hassanain said:

We are fighting the hand of God himself after

Salam probably it has been an statement which accustomed to Harold Brown an American nuclear physicist who served as United States Secretary of Defense from 1977 to 1981, under President Jimmy Carter. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Brown_(Secretary_of_Defense)

 

Brzezinski (Jimmy Carter's National Security adviser), who had been adamant about attacking Iran and rescuing the hostages, called the failure his bitterest disappointment during his four years in the White House.

When asked how the rescue operation had failed,  the US Secretary of Defense said: “Ayatollah Khomeini has been standing on the balcony of his house, and with every movement of his hand, a plane has been falling to the ground.”

http://www.imam-khomeini.ir/fa/c504_2661/زندگی_نامه/رهبری/واقعه_طبس

 

[Panzerwaffe]

On 9/22/2025 at 12:01 AM, Ashvazdanghe said:

Hi

Salam probably it has been an statement which accustomed to Harold Brown an American nuclear physicist who served as United States Secretary of Defense from 1977 to 1981, under President Jimmy Carter. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Brown_(Secretary_of_Defense)

 

Brzezinski (Jimmy Carter's National Security adviser), who had been adamant about attacking Iran and rescuing the hostages, called the failure his bitterest disappointment during his four years in the White House.

When asked how the rescue operation had failed,  the US Secretary of Defense said: “Ayatollah Khomeini has been standing on the balcony of his house, and with every movement of his hand, a plane has been falling to the ground.”

http://www.imam-khomeini.ir/fa/c504_2661/زندگی_نامه/رهبری/واقعه_طبس

 

Brzenski ziggy was the wahabi bigot with Polish name 

he was instrumental in starting the afghan fasad too 

[Panzerwaffe]

On 9/17/2025 at 8:01 PM, Jeffrey-N said:

I don't know, again I thought that was the Ayatollah.

He did disagree with Israel on many actions, he wasn't against Israel existing in the territory it occupied at the time, as far as I'm aware.

I agree they shouldn't have aided the Shah, especially knowing the damages it did. It certainly didn't justify Iran taking 66 innocent Americans as prisoners, and as I said, abusing and humiliating them. 

Can you just give me the quote for Carter. As for the storm, like I said it damaged one of the helicopters, it didn't directly knock them out of the sky.

Quotes?

I don't think I said anything that downplayed Carter's respect for Islam. 

 

my gripe is that the blacks and women were released ? Is that true ?

if so that’s EXTREMELY racist and sexist against white men 

Edited September 27, 2025 by Panzerwaffe

[Jeffrey-N]

38 minutes ago, Panzerwaffe said:

my gripe is that the blacks and women were released ? Is that true ?

if so that’s EXTREMELY racist and sexist against white men 

Huh? I'm pretty sure the majority of the captives were white, but that's irrelevant in my opinion.

[Panzerwaffe]

2 hours ago, Jeffrey-N said:

Huh? I'm pretty sure the majority of the captives were white, but that's irrelevant in my opinion.

How is it irrelevant 

they were discriminated against based on sex and color 

[Jeffrey-N]

43 minutes ago, Panzerwaffe said:

How is it irrelevant 

they were discriminated against based on sex and color 

The majority of the captives were white because that's just who the diplomats were. America is a majority white country, and the majority of people in the government (especially at that time) were male.

[Panzerwaffe]

8 minutes ago, Jeffrey-N said:

The majority of the captives were white because that's just who the diplomats were. America is a majority white country, and the majority of people in the government (especially at that time) were male.

I understand 

but Iranians released ONLY AA and women initially 

 

Edited September 27, 2025 by Panzerwaffe

[Jeffrey-N]

9 minutes ago, Panzerwaffe said:

but Iranians released ONLY AA and women initially 

 

Oh okay I didn't know that

[Panzerwaffe]

6 minutes ago, Jeffrey-N said:

Oh okay I didn't know that

They were trying to be woke even back then 

[Hameedeh]

4 hours ago, Panzerwaffe said:

but Iranians released ONLY AA and women initially 

The Iranians were trying to point out that African Americans and women were oppressed people in the US, so they were the first to be sent back to their homes.

[Panzerwaffe]

5 hours ago, Hameedeh said:

The Iranians were trying to point out that African Americans and women were oppressed people in the US, so they were the first to be sent back to their homes.

And they were at best naive and  misinformed 

women were willing participants in the westward expansion,” buffalo” soldiers took part in excesses against natives too 

so singling them out for better treatment was just pure racism against white men 

 

Edited September 28, 2025 by Panzerwaffe

[Brandon Benton]

Allah make it easier for them, they are getting a glimpse of what it is like to be a Muslim in America. To be honest, the conflict in Gaza is bringing many people into Islam. I think people are finally realizing that Muslims are actually being wronged and are suffering for sincere loyalty to God. I hope these people become Muslims and receive the support of the Ummah.

[Haji 2003]

Italy joined the chat

 

 

[Haji 2003]

Seems to be widespread across the continent

 

 

 

 

[notme]

43 minutes ago, Haji 2003 said:

Seems to be widespread across the continent

They had to wait for the fall of the United States to do it? This is excellent, but can you imagine if this support for human rights had happened 20 years ago? Or 50? 

[notme]

On 9/28/2025 at 4:05 AM, Panzerwaffe said:

so singling them out for better treatment was just pure racism against white men.

No.  

[Jeffrey-N]

29 minutes ago, notme said:

fall of the United States

and you called me a troll? 

This is top level scapegoating from you, especially after the US just established a peace deal.

[notme]

5 minutes ago, Jeffrey-N said:

and you called me a troll? 

This is top level scapegoating from you, especially after the US just established a peace deal.

I do not trust our "peace deal". Not after renaming the Department of Defense to Department of War. What I'm seeing is even die-hard Trump supporters are starting to wake up. You should join us. History will not be kind to collaborators. 

Do you know the meaning of the word troll in this context? And do you know the meaning of the word scapegoat? 

You are derailing topics and wasting time. That's trolling. Maybe it's unintentional on your part. I can't tell. 

Scapegoating is when you fully blame someone for something they played a small part in. I didn't blame anyone for anything.  I just wondered why now and not before.  

[Jeffrey-N]

9 minutes ago, notme said:

I do not trust our "peace deal". Not after renaming the Department of Defense to Department of War. What I'm seeing is even die-hard Trump supporters are starting to wake up. You should join us. History will not be kind to collaborators. 

I'm not a Trump supporter, never was. If he does something I think is right though, I will support him. 

10 minutes ago, notme said:

You are derailing topics and wasting time. That's trolling. Maybe it's unintentional on your part. I can't tell. 

This topic was already about non-righteous Muslims, so you're statement wasn't about that either. Also I don't know, I looked it up and got "he act of posting inflammatory, insincere, or off-topic messages in an online community with the deliberate intent to provoke an emotional reaction from others". I still don't think I'm trolling.

13 minutes ago, notme said:

Scapegoating is when you fully blame someone for something they played a small part in. I didn't blame anyone for anything.  I just wondered why now and not before.  

What you did there was in fact scapegoating. You said "They had to wait for the fall of the United States to do it" as if the United States was keeping Europe from protesting against Israel, something that has been happening for a long time in both the US and Europe. I also find the 'fall of the United States' to be laughable.

I apologize I think I contributed to pulling this forum off topic so this will be the last comment I post here about this specific topic.

[Abu Hassanain]

On 9/30/2025 at 1:47 AM, Brandon Benton said:

Allah make it easier for them, they are getting a glimpse of what it is like to be a Muslim in America. To be honest, the conflict in Gaza is bringing many people into Islam. I think people are finally realizing that Muslims are actually being wronged and are suffering for sincere loyalty to God. I hope these people become Muslims and receive the support of the Ummah.

Salam

unfortunately, many of the people I see converting based on Gaza are living a proper Islamic lifestyle. They tend to be so-called queers feminist, non-binary goblins. I kid you not when I talk to to you about the people I’ve seen so-called converted because of Gaza.

I 100% condemn the human tragedy that is Gaza and condemn its perpetrators for the ancient enemy of both my faith and Race . I’m not going to say much more on my thoughts on this year because of public etiquette.
 

however, we need quality converts not strange weird people with weird lifestyles do we really need blue haired tattooed pierced queer, leaning people that will throw a hijab on and tell them to pray, but they don’t change their views and become more in line with the faith

One of my teachers and me were discussing that he was so happy saying we’ll get these people. They’ll see that Iran is the ones supporting Gaza. They’ll come to the school 14 and then he actually met some of these people.

I applaud, sincere converse with sincerely, changed their entire lifestyle to be in line with Islam we don’t need people who wants another identity badge

Wallahu Alam 

[Abu Hassanain]

59 minutes ago, Jeffrey-N said:

I'm not a Trump supporter, never was. If he does something I think is right though, I will support him. 

This topic was already about non-righteous Muslims, so you're statement wasn't about that either. Also I don't know, I looked it up and got "he act of posting inflammatory, insincere, or off-topic messages in an online community with the deliberate intent to provoke an emotional reaction from others". I still don't think I'm trolling.

What you did there was in fact scapegoating. You said "They had to wait for the fall of the United States to do it" as if the United States was keeping Europe from protesting against Israel, something that has been happening for a long time in both the US and Europe. I also find the 'fall of the United States' to be laughable.

I apologize I think I contributed to pulling this forum off topic so this will be the last comment I post here about this specific topic.

Salam

Trump is the Yazid of this time .

[Panzerwaffe]

10 hours ago, Abu Hassanain said:

Salam

unfortunately, many of the people I see converting based on Gaza are living a proper Islamic lifestyle. They tend to be so-called queers feminist, non-binary goblins. I kid you not when I talk to to you about the people I’ve seen so-called converted because of Gaza.

I 100% condemn the human tragedy that is Gaza and condemn its perpetrators for the ancient enemy of both my faith and Race . I’m not going to say much more on my thoughts on this year because of public etiquette.
 

however, we need quality converts not strange weird people with weird lifestyles do we really need blue haired tattooed pierced queer, leaning people that will throw a hijab on and tell them to pray, but they don’t change their views and become more in line with the faith

One of my teachers and me were discussing that he was so happy saying we’ll get these people. They’ll see that Iran is the ones supporting Gaza. They’ll come to the school 14 and then he actually met some of these people.

I applaud, sincere converse with sincerely, changed their entire lifestyle to be in line with Islam we don’t need people who wants another identity badge

Wallahu Alam 

Salam

Enemy of “ my race “ that’s interesting bro , isn’t another race enemy east of the Tigris and Euphrates? 

Religious Sunnis will never give credit to 

Iran for its resistance,

to them rafidi are the eternal enemies and any goodwill for Iran will disappear the moment Iran is in conflict with even a lukewarm Sunni Muslim state 

[Panzerwaffe]

13 hours ago, notme said:

No.  

Salam 

how sister ? Please explain 

 

[Panzerwaffe]

11 hours ago, Abu Hassanain said:

Salam

Trump is the Yazid of this time .

How ? please explain brother 

 

Edited October 6, 2025 by Panzerwaffe

[Panzerwaffe]

13 hours ago, notme said:

They had to wait for the fall of the United States to do it? This is excellent, but can you imagine if this support for human rights had happened 20 years ago? Or 50? 

Is there any support for human rights violations in Yemen Sudan Myanmar Kashmir etc in Muslim countries? 

cannot just expect the west to look out for us , we need to fix our own countries first 

[Abu Hassanain]

4 hours ago, Panzerwaffe said:

How ? please explain brother 

 

Salam

he wants what he wants whether it’s right or not. He wants to be worshiped. He would like to murder in prison or destroy anyone who disagrees with him his entire complex is like Yazid . 

[Haji 2003]

Translated from Hebrew

[Haji 2003]

 

Quote

Elie Abi Akar, a member of the Lebanese Forces, sheltered a Lebanese Shiite displaced by the war, who had been working for him for 12 years. The Lebanese Forces party gave him the choice between expelling this man or resigning. He chose to resign.

 

 

[Abu Hassanain]

On 10/6/2025 at 2:13 AM, Panzerwaffe said:

How ? please explain brother 

 

Salam

his soul goal is to destroy Shia Islam for his masters in Israel

The Jews obviously got him the election or have something on him

His debauchery his arrogance, his sins his self worship is very similar to Yazid 

He is the false guard, the tyrant and the evil idol of this time

Another analogy would be that Netanyahu is Umar ibn sad and trump is shimr or that Netanyahu is Muwiyah and trump is Amr ibn as lanat Allah on them all 

Shia I have no choice but to stand with the Democrats in 2026 in 2028. It doesn’t matter if all of their policies don’t line up with ours. It’s either align for the common interest or be destroyed by the maga Israel Israeli first cult.

wallahu Alam 

[Diaz]

This man is Lebanese Armenia Christian who is one of Hezbollah fighters. He got martyred while fighting the terrorists israhell soldiers with his shia brothers few days ago. This is what we call a real hero who is ready to sacrifice his life for his country. May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) forgive him and bless him.