Has Iran attacked Israel?

[Abu Nur]

Al Jazeera:

Dozens of Iranian lawmakers demand a dash for nuclear bomb

Dozens of Iranian lawmakers wrote to the country’s Supreme National Security Council calling for urgent action towards developing nuclear weapons as Israeli threats rise in the region.

The 39 members of parliament argued Iran needs to “reevaluate its defence doctrine”, Hassan Ali Akhlaghi, one of the signatories, told the semi-official ISNA news website.

“Today, none of the international organisations or even European countries or the US are capable of controlling the Zionist regime, and the regime is committing any crimes it can, so we wrote this letter,” he said.

Supreme Leader Aytollah Ali Khamenei issued a religious ruling two decades ago saying nuclear weapons are forbidden under Islamic principles. But calls to shift that policy have gained more favour among hardliners in Tehran during growing hostilities across the region.

[mahmood8726]

3 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

Al Jazeera:

Dozens of Iranian lawmakers demand a dash for nuclear bomb

Dozens of Iranian lawmakers wrote to the country’s Supreme National Security Council calling for urgent action towards developing nuclear weapons as Israeli threats rise in the region.

The 39 members of parliament argued Iran needs to “reevaluate its defence doctrine”, Hassan Ali Akhlaghi, one of the signatories, told the semi-official ISNA news website.

“Today, none of the international organisations or even European countries or the US are capable of controlling the Zionist regime, and the regime is committing any crimes it can, so we wrote this letter,” he said.

Supreme Leader Aytollah Ali Khamenei issued a religious ruling two decades ago saying nuclear weapons are forbidden under Islamic principles. But calls to shift that policy have gained more favour among hardliners in Tehran during growing hostilities across the region.

@Hasani Samnani what did I say? 

They haven't made it yet, unless this is all political theatrics, but I doubt it when it's lawmakers.

[Hasani Samnani]

2 hours ago, mahmood8726 said:

They haven't made it yet, unless this is all political theatrics, but I doubt it when it's lawmakers.

Again I have no doubt that knowledge  about the nuclear development process, is a very closely guarded secret and privy only to a select number of military,IRGC, scientists involved and Guardian council, that obviously operate on a very strict need to know basis only, with a very compartmentalized security clearance process.

Again everyone is free to believe their version. 

BUT, I would hope that lawmakers have no idea what's going on in the nuclear or missile production facilties, beyond a very cursory knowledge.

If the first "Islamic" bomb is any indication, it was very closely guarded secret and lawmakers were completely unaware because of RAW, CIA , MI6 AND MOSSAD spies, then this one is a even more closely held secret.

This information is just political posturing for votes...like in every other country.

Edited October 9 by Hasani Samnani

[Ashvazdanghe]

Number of Iranian lawmakers push for 'reevaluating defense doctrine' amid rising Israeli threats

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Despite a 20-year-old religious decree from Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Ali Khamenei prohibiting nuclear weapons under Islamic law, intensified regional hostilities have increasingly pushed the nation for a change in policy. 

https://www.tehrantimes.com/news/504781/Number-of-Iranian-lawmakers-push-for-pursuit-of-nuclear-weapons

[coldcow]

I think Israel is going to do what it did to Gaza in Lebanon, and continue to degrade Hezbollah's ability to fight by laying waste to the land.  Iran can't attack without risking pulling the US in.  Once Hezbhollah is in a bad position, Iran won't have any allies capable of helping if they go to war with Iran.  Similar to how Israel focused on Gaza till Gaza was not much threat, and then went after Hezbollah.  Hezbollah has no help on the south.

 

Israel is essentially fight a multi-front war, but fighting one front at a time.

[Muslim2010]

I have presented a comparison of military capabilities of Israel and Iran about 1 & 1/2 years ago the link is given below:

The present comparison of the capabilities of both military can be seen at link given below:

 

[Haji 2003]

Community note

 

[mahmood8726]

39 minutes ago, Haji 2003 said:

Community note

 

Thank God of some semblance to Twitter.

 

I deleted my Twitter now due to so many zionist accounts dehumanizing Muslims and Palestinians appearing on my feed, like Elon just wrote an algorithm that pushes this zionist psyop. Terrible app.

[Haji 2003]

 

 

[Abu Nur]

3 hours ago, Haji 2003 said:

 

 

This is not how politics work. Of course they should keep all in secret between the leaders and not bringing these kind of information to public.

[mahmood8726]

Israel has a high likleyhood of attacking Iran today.

Oil is being moved like crazy today, entire countries worth of oil within hours or minutes.

And this:

 

 

America is also involved in this heavily, meaning american bases will go up in flames.

America also just told saudi arabia today that they will defend them against an Iranian attack.

This looks like it's about to get nasty.

Edited October 25 by mahmood8726

[Abu Nur]

May Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) destroy their plan and save Mu'mins from the wickedness of these evil shayatins.

[mahmood8726]

@Ashvazdanghe

Did you hear one of the 3 explosions on the outskirts of Tehran?

they showed pictures but these seem old from 2021.

israel and america are confirming theyre launching their attack, some even claiming "hundreds of figther jets". 

[coldcow]

5 hours ago, mahmood8726 said:

Oil is being moved like crazy today, entire countries worth of oil within hours or minutes.

 

Iran is moving their own oil?  Or you mean other countries?

[123xo]

Iran is becoming a joke with their lil girl slaps on israel. 

[coldcow]

I wonder how big these strikes will be.  I saw one video that looked like a missile exploded in the air, or at least disappeared somehow.  Wonder if Iran was able to score a hit.  

7 minutes ago, mahmood8726 said:

israel and america are confirming theyre launching their attack, some even claiming "hundreds of figther jets". 

Of course, anything is possible, but I would doubt that Israeli planes made the attack, suspect it was all missiles.  If a single plane got shot down, and the pilot captured, that would be a huge loss for Israel.  It would likely negate any success of the attack.  And if an F35 got lost, China would get their hands on it as well as Iran, and they could reverse engineer and develop their systems to target it.

Drones are possible, but I don't think Isreal has stealth drones (at least officially).  Plus, low band radar can detect stealth, so suspect Iraq would have given a heads up, or perhaps another country.

 

We'll see what happens when the sun comes up and satellites are taking pics.  Hopefully Iran had enough heads up to help its people avoid getting hit.

[coldcow]

8 minutes ago, 123xo said:

Iran is becoming a joke with their lil girl slaps on israel. 

People here will disagree with me, but Iran knows that it can't win a conventional war with Israel.  Even if it got close, it would only pull the US into a fight with Iran.  It can't afford to do much damage to Israel, and killing Israelis would certainly cause a significantly greater response.  If Isreal attacks Iran's oil facilities that would cause it to lose money, and Iran also needs all that money.  

However I think China buys a lot of Iran's oil, so if Israel attacks Iran's oil, it might force China to set up air defenses to help protect the oil.  Who know?

[123xo]

2 minutes ago, coldcow said:

People here will disagree with me, but Iran knows that it can't win a conventional war with Israel.  Even if it got close, it would only pull the US into a fight with Iran.  It can't afford to do much damage to Israel, and killing Israelis would certainly cause a significantly greater response.  If Isreal attacks Iran's oil facilities that would cause it to lose money, and Iran also needs all that money.  

However I think China buys a lot of Iran's oil, so if Israel attacks Iran's oil, it might force China to set up air defenses to help protect the oil.  Who know?

Well either way they gonna get destroyed by Israel and America very soon might as well give them a taste of their own Medicine while they can. It's becoming annoying how Iran keeps threatening Israel with minimal action. 

[coldcow]

25 minutes ago, 123xo said:

Well either way they gonna get destroyed by Israel and America very soon might as well give them a taste of their own Medicine while they can. It's becoming annoying how Iran keeps threatening Israel with minimal action. 

Yeah, it is kind of embarrassing.  But what's more embarassing are the arabs and sunnis around the world that are doing nothing.  It's also ironic, sunnis will cheer on Iran now, but otherwise hate them because they're shia.  

[mahmood8726]

40 minutes ago, coldcow said:

People here will disagree with me, but Iran knows that it can't win a conventional war with Israel.  Even if it got close, it would only pull the US into a fight with Iran.  It can't afford to do much damage to Israel, and killing Israelis would certainly cause a significantly greater response.  If Isreal attacks Iran's oil facilities that would cause it to lose money, and Iran also needs all that money.  

However I think China buys a lot of Iran's oil, so if Israel attacks Iran's oil, it might force China to set up air defenses to help protect the oil.  Who know?

Iran prepared for war with america since 2003 after they saw america violate iraq. It's America that can't win a war with Iran, America is thousands of miles away, their bases are sitting ducks and even their own generals admit Iran is not Iraq and would be unwinnable, it would be worse than Vietnam. 

 

You're oversimplifying things so much my friend. My suggestion is to sit back and watch. Just like I told you guys Israel was going to attack today given the oil and planes were moving, now Iran will wait for everyone to wake up and see the news that Israel attacked Iran. Then most probably Iran will act in an unrestrained way on Israel, probably in about a day time. 

[mahmood8726]

53 minutes ago, coldcow said:

I wonder how big these strikes will be.  I saw one video that looked like a missile exploded in the air, or at least disappeared somehow.  Wonder if Iran was able to score a hit.  

Of course, anything is possible, but I would doubt that Israeli planes made the attack, suspect it was all missiles.  If a single plane got shot down, and the pilot captured, that would be a huge loss for Israel.  It would likely negate any success of the attack.  And if an F35 got lost, China would get their hands on it as well as Iran, and they could reverse engineer and develop their systems to target it.

Drones are possible, but I don't think Isreal has stealth drones (at least officially).  Plus, low band radar can detect stealth, so suspect Iraq would have given a heads up, or perhaps another country.

 

We'll see what happens when the sun comes up and satellites are taking pics.  Hopefully Iran had enough heads up to help its people avoid getting hit.

Israel sent jets, that was confirmed, you have video evidence of them flying on Jordanian airspace too. Until now their "attack" has been pathetic, but they said "waves" so let's wait.

Either Israel did this pathetic attack hoping Iran would not retaliate, but I doubt iran will not attack, they will attack stronger than Oct 1, that's the most likley outcome.

 

[coldcow]

26 minutes ago, mahmood8726 said:

Iran prepared for war with america since 2003 after they saw america violate iraq. It's America that can't win a war with Iran, America is thousands of miles away, their bases are sitting ducks and even their own generals admit Iran is not Iraq and would be unwinnable, it would be worse than Vietnam. 

The US has no reason to invade Iran like it did Iraq.  It can sit off the coast and launch missiles and air craft all day every day for months and months and months.  It doesn't need to "win" anything, all it has to do is bomb till it feels happy.  Then anytime Iran tries rebuilding, it bombs again.  

 

26 minutes ago, mahmood8726 said:

Then most probably Iran will act in an unrestrained way on Israel, probably in about a day time. 

Maybe.  But I suspect they'll probably say what they said before, that they'll retaliate at a time and place of their choosing.  Depends on how much damage done, of course.

 

  

23 minutes ago, mahmood8726 said:

Israel sent jets, that was confirmed, you have video evidence of them flying on Jordanian airspace too.

Just googled this.  It looks fake.  Unless there are other videos.

Edited October 26 by coldcow

[mahmood8726]

7 minutes ago, coldcow said:

The US has no reason to invade Iran like it did Iraq.  It can sit off the coast and launch missiles and air craft all day every day for months and months and months.  It doesn't need to "win" anything, all it has to do is bomb till it feels happy.  Then anytime Iran tries rebuilding, it bombs again.  

That's what iran prepared for my friend. They even prepared to be nuked.

7 minutes ago, coldcow said:

Maybe.  But I suspect they'll probably say what they said before, that they'll retaliate at a time and place of their choosing.  Depends on how much damage done, of course.

 

  

They're attacking a second time now and irans AD is surprisingly stopping everything.

7 minutes ago, coldcow said:

Just googled this.  It looks fake.  Unless there are other videos.

 

Edited October 26 by mahmood8726

[mahmood8726]

Let's continue this on the other new sub that was made

[Ashvazdanghe]

6 hours ago, mahmood8726 said:

@Ashvazdanghe

Did you hear one of the 3 explosions on the outskirts of Tehran?

they showed pictures but these seem old from 2021.

israel and america are confirming theyre launching their attack, some even claiming "hundreds of figther jets". 

Salam I have not heard any of  3 3 explosions .

Yeah picture ha been old from 2021

I read about it in non-official Iranian social media although number of fighters or drones or etc  has not been confirmed officially which @coldcow as usual is trying to exaggerate about fake Israeli army might although it's failed attack has not been a match for for Iranian defence system which it  has intercepted so called attack of rogue state of Israel too easy. 

Edited October 26 by Ashvazdanghe

[coldcow]

16 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam I have not heard any of  3 3 explosions .

Yeah picture ha been old from 2021

I read about it in non-official Iranian social media although number of fighters or drones or etc  has not been confirmed officially which @coldcow as usual is trying to exaggerate about fake Israeli army might although it's failed attack has not been a match for for Iranian defence system which it  has intercepted so called attack of rogue state of Israel too easy. 

Hope you're right.  I've read, but not seen, that satellite images show that a fuel manufacturing facility for balistic missiles was hit, along with some air defense sites.

[mahmood8726]

Oil moving weird again today, as if israel knows when Iran will attack them which is either today or in the next days.

Edited November 1 by mahmood8726