Mukhtar thaqafi

[SO SOLID SHIA]

2 hours ago, hawdini said:

Can anybody tell me when it was the last time this guy went to war to be asking for a omreh

Narieh, am at war everyday. Fighting the Illuminati and feminazis. See how they rhyme 

 

1 hour ago, Eddie Mecca said:

As far as my research goes, Mukhtar (rh) is considered a hero of Shi'ism...never read anything bad about him (rh)...may Allah forgive any minor infractions he (rh) might have committed

Ameen brother ! Ameen!  Big up Mukhtar each n every time !

[Abu Nur]

9 hours ago, hawdini said:

Can you explain this more? Why would they say it in Taqqiyah?

Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) have experienced a great loss and the ummayad government have taken over the Ummah, so they were surveilling Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) and their followers. If you want to understand even slightly how it feels, imagine how Israel surveil Palestians, but for Ahlulbayt and their followers it was more intense.

Imam Zainul Abideen (عليه السلام) must have said this in Taqiyyah removing any connection because if they were connected then Ummayad will attack the Imam (عليه السلام) and his followers of what Mukhtar did.

Edited April 14 by Abu Nur

[AbdusSibtayn]

18 hours ago, Panzerwaffe said:

Thank you so much , looking forward to it whenever you have time. 

Sure, you're welcome. 

Here is Sayyid al-Khu'i (rh)'s view:

https://www.al-khoei.us/books/?id=7947

[Ashvazdanghe]

17 hours ago, Panzerwaffe said:

furthermore some of the people who actually killed ibn ziyad ( Ibrahim b Ashtar ) for Mukhtār later joined “ nawasib” like ibn Zubayr against Umayyad’s 

Salam your statement has shown your poor understanding of history & situation of that era which in opposition of your claim Abdullah  Ibn Zubayr has  been considered as Nasibi  & hypocrite & a fraud  in opposition of Mus'ab inb zubair  which after uprising of Mukhtar (رضي الله عنه) & breaking ties with Abdullah  Ibn Zubayr by Mukhtar (رضي الله عنه) so then Abdullah  has insulted Amir al Muminin  imam Ali (عليه السلام) & tried to kill  Muhammad b. al-Hanafiyya & Bani Hashim tribe which they have been saved by Mukhtar (رضي الله عنه) ; which Ibrahim b Ashtar just has joind to Mus'ab inb zubair who has not been a Nasibi but has been a cruel person & has greed of power but he kept respect of family of prophet (pbu) in opposition of his brother cursed Abdullah ibn zubair . 

19 hours ago, Panzerwaffe said:

There are problems in details here Abdullah b yazid is not a Umayyad governor of kufa 

 

You have mistaken son of cursed Yazid "Abdullah b yazid" or 'Abdullah bin Yazid Al-Ansari with cursed Ubayd Allah b. Ziyad who has been in side of Imam Ali (عليه السلام) until cursed  Mu'awiya called Ziyad as his blood brother ; so then he has betrayed to Imam Ali (عليه السلام) &  joined to cursed Umayyads  so then he has been appointed as governor of Kufa by cursed Yazid the son of cursed Mu'awiya as new uncle of cursed Yazid  . 

 

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ʿAbd Allāh ibn Yazīd ibn Muʿāwiya ibn Abī Sufyān (Arabic: عبدالله بن يزيد بن معاوية بن أبي سفيان), commonly known as al-Uswār, was an Umayyad prince from the Sufyanid line of the dynasty. He was the son of Caliph Yazid I (r. 680–683).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abd_Allah_ibn_Yazid

 

Ubayd Allah b. Ziyad

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. It is said that Abu Sufyan considered Ziyad a result of his act of adultery with Sumayya and thus Mu'awiya called Ziyad his brother.

 

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There is no information about the political positions and activities of 'Ubayd Allah when he was young; however, according to researchers, apparently he has not been away from governmental affairs in the ruling territory of his father, Ziyad b. Abih, who was the governor of Kufa and Basra.

https://en.wikishia.net/view/Ubayd_Allah_b._Ziyad

 

19 hours ago, Panzerwaffe said:

abdullah b yazid is not anti Shia even later btw he led the funeral prayers and burial of one of the most staunch Shias of kufa ( harith first name ) forget his full name but incident is in sahih Muslim I believe 

also he is chided by son of Talha for being too weak and supporting of tawwabun as he allowed them to prepare for war without any restrictions and was removed by ibn Zubayr later

 

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he was a companion of Ali fought with him in his battles and was appointed by ibn Zubayr as governer, his attitude towards ibn sured was far more sympathetic ( largely because of latters hostility to Umayyads). Than his attitude towards mukhtar.

 

This is totally incorrect because probably you have mistaken  'Abdullah bin Yazid Al-Ansari with cursed Ubayd Allah b. Ziyad which it seems that   'Abdullah bin Yazid Al-Ansari  has been appointed by Abdullah ibn Zubair as governor of Kufa because he has had good relation with people likewise ibn Surad Khuza'i but on the e other hand he has been enemy of Mukhtar (رضي الله عنه) which he is first person who has called Mukhtar (رضي الله عنه) as liar & deceiver when he was governor of Kufa by order of Abdulla ibn Zubayr for opposing uprising of Mukhtar (رضي الله عنه) which son of Talha has criticised him for his weak opposition against Mukhtar through supporting Ibn Surad as head of Tawwabun ; which mass killing of Tawawabun has been in favor of both of Abdullah ibn zabayr & cursed Umayyads because their mass killing has caused decreasing number of devoted Shias who could help  Mukhtar (رضي الله عنه) against both of Ibn Zuabyr & cursed Umayyads. 

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وَقَالَ لَنَا أَبُو نُعَيْمٍ عَنْ زُهَيْرٍ، عَنْ أَبِي إِسْحَاقَ، خَرَجَ عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ يَزِيدَ الأَنْصَارِيُّ وَخَرَجَ مَعَهُ الْبَرَاءُ بْنُ عَازِبٍ وَزَيْدُ بْنُ أَرْقَمَ رضى الله عنهم فَاسْتَسْقَى، فَقَامَ بِهِمْ عَلَى رِجْلَيْهِ عَلَى غَيْرِ مِنْبَرٍ فَاسْتَغْفَرَ، ثُمَّ صَلَّى رَكْعَتَيْنِ يَجْهَرُ بِالْقِرَاءَةِ وَلَمْ يُؤَذِّنْ، وَلَمْ يُقِمْ‏.‏ قَالَ أَبُو إِسْحَاقَ وَرَأَى عَبْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ يَزِيدَ النَّبِيَّ صلى الله عليه وسلم‏.‏

Narrated 'Abdullah bin Yazid Al-Ansari that he went out with Al-Bara' bin 'Azib, and Zaid bin Arqam and invoked for rain. He ('Abdullah bin Yazid) stood up but not on a pulpit and invoked Allah for rain and then offered two Rak'a prayers with loud recitation without pronouncing Adhan or Iqama. Abu Ishaq said that 'Adbullah bin Yazid had seen the Prophet (ﷺ) (doing the same)

Sahih al-Bukhari 1022
https://sunnah.com/bukhari:1022

 

[Panzerwaffe]

5 hours ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam your statement has shown your poor understanding of history & situation of that era which in opposition of your claim Abdullah  Ibn Zubayr has  been considered as Nasibi  & hypocrite & a fraud  in opposition of Mus'ab inb zubair  which after uprising of Mukhtar (رضي الله عنه) & breaking ties with Abdullah  Ibn Zubayr by Mukhtar (رضي الله عنه) so then Abdullah  has insulted Amir al Muminin  imam Ali (عليه السلام) & tried to kill  Muhammad b. al-Hanafiyya & Bani Hashim tribe which they have been saved by Mukhtar (رضي الله عنه) ; which Ibrahim b Ashtar just has joind to Mus'ab inb zubair who has not been a Nasibi but has been a cruel person & has greed of power but he kept respect of family of prophet (pbu) in opposition of his brother cursed Abdullah ibn zubair . 

You have mistaken son of cursed Yazid "Abdullah b yazid" or 'Abdullah bin Yazid Al-Ansari with cursed Ubayd Allah b. Ziyad who has been in side of Imam Ali (عليه السلام) until cursed  Mu'awiya called Ziyad as his blood brother ; so then he has betrayed to Imam Ali (عليه السلام) &  joined to cursed Umayyads  so then he has been appointed as governor of Kufa by cursed Yazid the son of cursed Mu'awiya as new uncle of cursed Yazid  . 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abd_Allah_ibn_Yazid

 

Ubayd Allah b. Ziyad

 

https://en.wikishia.net/view/Ubayd_Allah_b._Ziyad

 

 

 

This is totally incorrect because probably you have mistaken  'Abdullah bin Yazid Al-Ansari with cursed Ubayd Allah b. Ziyad which it seems that   'Abdullah bin Yazid Al-Ansari  has been appointed by Abdullah ibn Zubair as governor of Kufa because he has had good relation with people likewise ibn Surad Khuza'i but on the e other hand he has been enemy of Mukhtar (رضي الله عنه) which he is first person who has called Mukhtar (رضي الله عنه) as liar & deceiver when he was governor of Kufa by order of Abdulla ibn Zubayr for opposing uprising of Mukhtar (رضي الله عنه) which son of Talha has criticised him for his weak opposition against Mukhtar through supporting Ibn Surad as head of Tawwabun ; which mass killing of Tawawabun has been in favor of both of Abdullah ibn zabayr & cursed Umayyads because their mass killing has caused decreasing number of devoted Shias who could help  Mukhtar (رضي الله عنه) against both of Ibn Zuabyr & cursed Umayyads. 

 

 

so you mean to tell me 2 sons of Zubayr were fighting on different sides ? How is supporting Musab different from supporting Abdullah 

Musab I know said great things about Hussain but he served his brothers cause in Iraq 

also Abdullah b yazid the one appointed by ibn Zubayr you think is son of yazid b muawiyah ?

and what’s the point of quoting Hadith of him with ibn Azib and ibn arqam ? 

 

Edited April 14 by Panzerwaffe

[hawdini]

11 hours ago, Abu Nur said:

Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) have experienced a great loss and the ummayad government have taken over the Ummah, so they were surveilling Ahlulbayt (عليه السلام) and their followers. If you want to understand even slightly how it feels, imagine how Israel surveil Palestians, but for Ahlulbayt and their followers it was more intense.

Imam Zainul Abideen (عليه السلام) must have said this in Taqiyyah removing any connection because if they were connected then Ummayad will attack the Imam (عليه السلام) and his followers of what Mukhtar did.

Oh okay i thought you were disagreeing with the iranian guy, because he also mentioned that it couldve been said in taqqiyah.

Oke so we all agree Mukhtar was a good guy can we now leave him alone. He is probably in barzakh right now asking Allah (سُبْحَانَهُ وَ تَعَالَى) to burn the people he already burned to be burned even more. He is very busy leave him alone

18 hours ago, SO SOLID SHIA said:

Narieh, am at war everyday. Fighting the Illuminati and feminazis. See how they rhyme 

Wasnt narieh like the more good looking one, if so narieh all day everyday!!! That doesnt even rhyme, you okay?

[Ashvazdanghe]

15 hours ago, Panzerwaffe said:

so you mean to tell me 2 sons of Zubayr were fighting on different sides ? How is supporting Musab different from supporting Abdullah 

Musab I know said great things about Hussain but he served his brothers cause in Iraq 

Salam they have not fought  in different sides which they have similar agenda of defeating cursed Umayyads & establishing Zubayri dynasty instead of them through relating themselves to prophet Muhammad (pbu) through their father Zubayr in similar fashion which later Abbasids have claimed that they are family of prophet (pbu) & their uprising has done with slogan of returning caliphate to family of prophet (pbu) but hey have fooled people which Abbasids have considered their ancestor Abbas the uncle of prophet (pbu) as person who has right of rulership in similar fashion of sons of Zubayr. 

Zubayr in place of cursed Umayyads but eat he end he was unsuccessful for fulfilling this agenda . 

 

15 hours ago, Panzerwaffe said:

also Abdullah b yazid the one appointed by ibn Zubayr you think is son of yazid b muawiyah ?

and what’s the point of quoting Hadith of him with ibn Azib and ibn arqam ? 

No I mean probably   has has been Abdullah bin Yazid Al-Ansari  who has been counted as companions of prophet Muhammad (pbu) who has had good reputation between all people even Shia muslims ; which he didn't has any relation to cursed  yazid b muawiyah or cursed  muawiyah which his name has caused confusion for you which Yazid has been a common name between arabs at ignorance era . 

I have quoted a hadith from him that shows his status between Sunnis as a popular & trustworthy companion between them . 

[Panzerwaffe]

27 minutes ago, Ashvazdanghe said:

Salam they have not fought  in different sides which they have similar agenda of defeating cursed Umayyads & establishing Zubayri dynasty instead of them through relating themselves to prophet Muhammad (pbu) through their father Zubayr in similar fashion which later Abbasids have claimed that they are family of prophet (pbu) & their uprising has done with slogan of returning caliphate to family of prophet (pbu) but hey have fooled people which Abbasids have considered their ancestor Abbas the uncle of prophet (pbu) as person who has right of rulership in similar fashion of sons of Zubayr. 

Zubayr in place of cursed Umayyads but eat he end he was unsuccessful for fulfilling this agenda . 

 

No I mean probably   has has been Abdullah bin Yazid Al-Ansari  who has been counted as companions of prophet Muhammad (pbu) who has had good reputation between all people even Shia muslims ; which he didn't has any relation to cursed  yazid b muawiyah or cursed  muawiyah which his name has caused confusion for you which Yazid has been a common name between arabs at ignorance era . 

I have quoted a hadith from him that shows his status between Sunnis as a popular & trustworthy companion between them . 

Right so that’s what I meant fighting for either Musab and Abdullah is same thing 

yes that ansari is the governor of ibn Zubayr in kufa who  was a trusted companion of imam Ali too . It didn’t cause confusion for me but for inoles who calls her an “ Umayyad governor” 

and btw ibn arqam and ibn azib in the Hadith you mentioned are also ansars who were supporters of Ali further strengthening my argument 

 

Edited April 15 by Panzerwaffe