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The initial parts of many Surahs contains letters only Allah has full knowledge of. However, in typical fashion anything, even things having no relation, turn into codes for the ahlulbayt. 

"Kaf Ha' Ya' Ain Saad

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Allegedly, Kaf means Kerbala!  

But it doesn't end there. 

The 'Ya' allegedly stands for Yazid. 

Ain is for Atash.

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The rest of the Hadith includes extremely fanciful tales of lions etc.

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This unfortunately, is the typical degradation of the Quran, destroying the Sunnah and turning our madhab into a cult which is focused only on forcing meanings into the Quran which truly do not have much basis.

 

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Imam Hussain TV also peddles claims that Ziyarah equals one million Hajj, and are completely hijacking the Sunnah of Muhammed saw.

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I believe we need to share good examples and TVs instead of bad ones. We all know that the Shirazis have all the means the west provides them in order to derail the mainstream shias to ghuluw and sectarianism. So, we are spreading the word for them unkowingly by even quoting and criticising them.

So, instead I believe we should share the good ones representing mainstream shia islam. And they are the ones being banned, seized by western regimes. Even their social media accounts. So, we need to share the word for them.

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I like shirazis for their honesty. They are honest about their beliefs. They don't sugarcoat stuff

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15 minutes ago, sunnism said:

I like shirazis for their honesty. They are honest about their beliefs. They don't sugarcoat stuff

These are not our beliefs by the way. Ahad chain reports or weak reports by the ghulat are not the original teachings of the ahlulbayt.

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13 minutes ago, In Gods Name said:

These are not our beliefs by the way. Ahad chain reports or weak reports by the ghulat are not the original teachings of the ahlulbayt.

Not the ghulat thing. Cursing the companions. Believing abu bakr, umar, usman and muhajiroon and ansar apostated except some. Here in the subcontinent shia take names of abu bakr, umar and usman with respect. But shirazis are so blunt about it. I respect people who are unapologetic about their beliefs unlike syed khamenai and others 

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1 minute ago, sunnism said:

Not the ghulat thing. Cursing the companions. Believing abu bakr, umar, usman and muhajiroon and ansar apostated except some. Here in the subcontinent shia take names of abu bakr, umar and usman with respect. 

This isn't actually a mainstream belief. The Shias who adhere to this say initially, the majority were shook by the confusion, but afterwards many returned to Ali b. Abi Talib, especially among the Ansaar, and many of them fought with Ali etc.

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1 minute ago, In Gods Name said:

This isn't actually a mainstream belief. The Shias who adhere to this say initially, the majority were shook by the confusion, but afterwards many returned to Ali b. Abi Talib, especially among the Ansaar, and many of them fought with Ali etc.

Lol. Bro you don't know anything. At this time I stopped taking you seriously. According to shia. All apostated except abu dhar, miqdad, and salman. Then ammar, abu amra, abu sasan and shatira came back. Then many others. They have this belief that every single companion is an apostate until proven otherwise. There is a report about 12000 companions, but it is most likely taqiyyah. And as far as those who fought alongside ali, then majority of them were not imamis, they didn't believe that ali is the divinely appointed imam. 

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1 minute ago, sunnism said:

Lol. Bro you don't know anything. At this time I stopped taking you seriously. According to shia. All apostated except abu dhar, miqdad, and salman. Then ammar, abu amra, abu sasan and shatira came back. Then many others. They have this belief that every single companion is an apostate until proven otherwise. There is a report about 12000 companions, but it is most likely taqiyyah. And as far as those who fought alongside ali, then majority of them were not imamis, they didn't believe that ali is the divinely appointed imam. 

The Shia view is to be silent on the majority of the Muhajireen and Ansaar. This is the official view.

Look at the works and view of Sayed Kamal al-Hayderi on this.

Many Shias even argue the Ansaar naturally favoured Ali.

In terms of the Sahaba..we highly respect Abdullah b. Masud, Abu Said al Khudri, Ibn Abbas, Jabir b. Abdillah, Abu Dujana , and many others not on your list

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8 hours ago, 123xo said:

I'm not trying to be racist but (removed)

That is incredibly racist. 

Even when it comes to marriage, there's a lot of prejudice and racism of one group towards the other.

It doesn't actually matter, from my observation, one group appears to be the majority of pharmacists, doctors, politicians and business people, irrespective of any insults like that.

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1 minute ago, In Gods Name said:

The Shia view is to be silent on the majority of the Muhajireen and Ansaar. This is the official view.

Look at the works and view of Sayed Kamal al-Hayderi on this.

Many Shias even argue the Ansaar naturally favoured Ali.

In terms of the Sahaba..we highly respect Abdullah b. Masud, Abu Said al Khudri, Ibn Abbas, Jabir b. Abdillah, Abu Dujana , and many others not on your list

Those people came back to ali. And sayed kamal haydari's view isn't official view. 

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16 minutes ago, sunnism said:

Not the ghulat thing. Cursing the companions. Believing abu bakr, umar, usman and muhajiroon and ansar apostated except some. Here in the subcontinent shia take names of abu bakr, umar and usman with respect. But shirazis are so blunt about it. I respect people who are unapologetic about their beliefs unlike syed khamenai and others 

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This is a very enlightening extract i came across and would like to share with my bros and sisters in Faith, may Allah raise your ranks in ibaada.. inshAllah!

"From a lengthy tradition dealing with Sa'ad bin Abdullah Ash'ari's meeting with Imam al Mahdi (a.t.f.s.), in which Sa'ad asked Imam al Mahdi (a.t.f.s.) the interpreta­tion regarding the words: Kaf, Ha, Ya, Ain, Swad in Surah al Maryam. Imam replied,

 

"These words are from the concealed codes regarding which Allah informed His Servant the Prophet Zakariyah ((عليه السلام).) and regarding which it was revealed to the Holy Prophet Mohammad ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).s.). The incident is as follows: Prophet Zakariyah ((عليه السلام).) asked his Lord to teach him the names of the Five Pure Ones, to which Jibra'eel descended and taught him the five names. Whenever Prophet Zakariyah ((عليه السلام).) recited the four names, Mohammad ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).s.), Ali ((عليه السلام).), Fatemah ((عليه السلام).) and Hasan ((عليه السلام).), his heart would be enlightened and his sorrow would part away, but when he took the name of Husain ((عليه السلام).) he would become sorrowful and turn restless. One day he asked Allah Almighty, "My Lord! When I utter the names of these four Pure Per­sonalities, my sorrow parts away, but when I take the name of Husain, I turn sorrowful and weep & wail." Then Allah, the Mighty the Sublime re­vealed to him regarding Kaf, Ha, Ya, Ain, Swad. Kaf stands for Karbala, and Ha for Halakah (perdition) of the Prophet's Household, Ya for Yazid, the oppresser and murderer of Husain ((عليه السلام).), Ain for Atash (thirst), and Swad for (Sabr) Patience and forbearance of Husain. When Prophet Zakariyah heard this he was so much grieved that for three consecutive days he refused to come out of his place of worship and did not permit people to meet him, and remained grief-stricken and wept profusely. And he recited the following elegy: O Lord! Will you let the best of Creatures see the plight of his son? O Lord! Will you allow this disaster to fall upon his House-hold? O Lord! Will you let Ali and Fatemah wear the dress of grief and will they witness this calamity"? He (Prophet Zakariyah) would always say, "O Lord! Bestow upon me with a son who would be the light of my eyes in my old-age, and when you present me with a son make my love intense for him and then let me taste the grief of his loss as Your Friend Mohammad ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).s.) who will mourn the death of his son. Thus Allah blessed Prophet Zakariyah ((عليه السلام).) with a son Prophet Yahya ((عليه السلام).) whose death was mourned by Prophet Zakariyah. Prophet Yahya ((عليه السلام).)'s period of (his mother's) pregnan­cy was six months similar to that of Imam Husain ((عليه السلام).)."

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in another tradition......

 

"Allamah Majlisi has quoted in Biharul Anwar, that the author of Durrus Sameen has written in the inter­pretation of the following verse of the Qur'an,

 

"Then Adam received from his Lord (certain) words, and Allah turned to him (mercifully)" [16]

 

That Prophet Adam ((عليه السلام).) saw the names of Prophet Mohammad ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).s.) and Imams ((عليه السلام).) written on the base of the Empyrean (Arsh) and Jibra'eel instructed him to say: O the Praiseworthy (Hameed), by the right of Mohammad ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).s.), O Most High (Ali), by the right of Ali, O Creator (Fatir), by the right of Fatemah, O Benevolent (Mohsin), by the right of Hasan and Husain, and from you is goodness. When Prophet Adam uttered the name of Husain his eyes were filled with tears and his heart was pained. Adam told Jibra'eel,

 

"O brother Jibra'eel! When I take the name of the fifth one among them, my eyes get filled with tears and my heart gets shattered."

 

Jibra'eel replied, "This son of yours (Husain) will be sur­rounded by such afflictions that all other calamities will seem low and less when compared to it." Prophet Adam asked Jibra'eel as to what those afflictions would be, to which Jibra'eel replied, "He will be killed as a thirsty, forlorn and a lonely traveller. He will have no friend or helper. Would that you see him calling out: O thirst! O loneliness! and his thirst would spread between him and the heavens like smoke. No one will answer his call except the swords and the rain of death, and he will be butchered like a sheep from the back of his neck. And the enemies will rob the belongings from his tents, and his blessed head, while those of his companions, will be paraded on the points of lances in the cities in the midst of his (imprisoned) ladies. Thus it has been revealed in the knowl­edge of the Lord." Thus Prophet Adam and Jibra'eel both started weeping as a mother weeps over the loss of her son.

 

And it has been narrated from other trustworthy reports, that on the day of Eid, Imam Hasan ((عليه السلام).) and Imam Husain ((عليه السلام).) entered the house of their Grandfather the Prophet of Allah Mohammad ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).s.) and said,

 

"O grandfa­ther! Today is the day of Eid, and the children of Arabs have worn new and colourful clothes, while we do not have any new dress with us, hence we have come to you."

 

The Prophet pondered over their state and wept that he did not have a dress with him suitable for them, nor did he desire to send them disheartened and with a broken heart. He lifted his hands and prayed,

 

"O Allah! Make ammends for their and their mother's heart."

 

Suddenly Jibra'eel descended with two white dresses among the dresses of Paradise. The Prophet was overjoyed and said,

 

"O Masters of the youth of Paradise! Take these dresses which have been stitched by the tailor (from Allah) according to your sizes."

 

Both the Imams saw that the dresses were white in colour and hence said, "O Grandfather! These are of white colour, how can we wear it, when the children of Arabs have worn colourful clothes"?

 

The Prophet put his head down and started thinking about it when Jibra'eel said, "O Mohammad ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).s.)! Rejoice and cool your eyes. The powerful dyer of the Divine colour will fulfil their desire and make them happy by those colours which they desire. Hence O Prophet, do order that a ewer and vessel be brought."

 

A vessel was brought and Jibra'eel said, "O Prophet of Allah! I shall pour water over these dresses and you wring them until the desired colour appears. The Prophet soaked the dress of Imam Hasan ((عليه السلام).) and said,

 

"Which colour do you desire"?

 

Imam Hasan ((عليه السلام).) replied that he preferred the green colour, to which the Prophet rubbed the dress with his own hands which turned into bright green colour similar to emeralds, by the will and command of Allah. He then handed it over to Imam Hasan ((عليه السلام).) who wore it. Then Jibra'eel took another dress and started pouring water in the vessel. The Prophet then turned towards Imam Husain ((عليه السلام).), who was of five years of age at that time, and asked, "O light of my eyes! Which colour do you desire"?

 

To which Husain replied that he preferred the red colour. The Prophet again rubbed the dress with his own blessed hands and it turned into bright red colour similar to rubies. He then handed it over to Imam Husain ((عليه السلام).) who wore it too. The Holy Prophet and both Imams were over­joyed and they returned back to their mother. When Jibra'eel saw this he started weeping. The Prophet said,

 

"O brother Jibra'eel! This is not the day to mourn, when my sons are rejoicing and are happy. By Allah! Please let me know the reason for your grief."

 

Jibra'eel replied, "I mourn because your sons have selected one colour each. As regards your son Hasan, he will be poisoned and because of it's effect his body will turn green. And as regards your other son Husain, be will be killed by swords and his head severed, while his body will be smeared with red blood." Hearing this the Prophet started weeping and his sorrow increased.

 

[16] Surah al Baraqah: 37.

(By razavi from NY)

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2 hours ago, 123xo said:

I'm not trying to be racist but…

And then she was racist…

 :sign_war:
 

5 hours ago, islamicmusic said:

I believe we need to share good examples and TVs instead of bad ones.

I think we should share both, to create awareness about what’s right and what isn’t. 

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12 hours ago, Guest It&#x27;s a Sahih Hadith said:

This is a very enlightening extract i came across and would like to share with my bros and sisters in Faith, may Allah raise your ranks in ibaada.. inshAllah!

"From a lengthy tradition dealing with Sa'ad bin Abdullah Ash'ari's meeting with Imam al Mahdi (a.t.f.s.), in which Sa'ad asked Imam al Mahdi (a.t.f.s.) the interpreta­tion regarding the words: Kaf, Ha, Ya, Ain, Swad in Surah al Maryam. Imam replied,

 

"These words are from the concealed codes regarding which Allah informed His Servant the Prophet Zakariyah ((عليه السلام).) and regarding which it was revealed to the Holy Prophet Mohammad ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).s.). The incident is as follows: Prophet Zakariyah ((عليه السلام).) asked his Lord to teach him the names of the Five Pure Ones, to which Jibra'eel descended and taught him the five names. Whenever Prophet Zakariyah ((عليه السلام).) recited the four names, Mohammad ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).s.), Ali ((عليه السلام).), Fatemah ((عليه السلام).) and Hasan ((عليه السلام).), his heart would be enlightened and his sorrow would part away, but when he took the name of Husain ((عليه السلام).) he would become sorrowful and turn restless. One day he asked Allah Almighty, "My Lord! When I utter the names of these four Pure Per­sonalities, my sorrow parts away, but when I take the name of Husain, I turn sorrowful and weep & wail." Then Allah, the Mighty the Sublime re­vealed to him regarding Kaf, Ha, Ya, Ain, Swad. Kaf stands for Karbala, and Ha for Halakah (perdition) of the Prophet's Household, Ya for Yazid, the oppresser and murderer of Husain ((عليه السلام).), Ain for Atash (thirst), and Swad for (Sabr) Patience and forbearance of Husain. When Prophet Zakariyah heard this he was so much grieved that for three consecutive days he refused to come out of his place of worship and did not permit people to meet him, and remained grief-stricken and wept profusely. And he recited the following elegy: O Lord! Will you let the best of Creatures see the plight of his son? O Lord! Will you allow this disaster to fall upon his House-hold? O Lord! Will you let Ali and Fatemah wear the dress of grief and will they witness this calamity"? He (Prophet Zakariyah) would always say, "O Lord! Bestow upon me with a son who would be the light of my eyes in my old-age, and when you present me with a son make my love intense for him and then let me taste the grief of his loss as Your Friend Mohammad ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).s.) who will mourn the death of his son. Thus Allah blessed Prophet Zakariyah ((عليه السلام).) with a son Prophet Yahya ((عليه السلام).) whose death was mourned by Prophet Zakariyah. Prophet Yahya ((عليه السلام).)'s period of (his mother's) pregnan­cy was six months similar to that of Imam Husain ((عليه السلام).)."

......

 

 

 

in another tradition......

 

"Allamah Majlisi has quoted in Biharul Anwar, that the author of Durrus Sameen has written in the inter­pretation of the following verse of the Qur'an,

 

"Then Adam received from his Lord (certain) words, and Allah turned to him (mercifully)" [16]

 

That Prophet Adam ((عليه السلام).) saw the names of Prophet Mohammad ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).s.) and Imams ((عليه السلام).) written on the base of the Empyrean (Arsh) and Jibra'eel instructed him to say: O the Praiseworthy (Hameed), by the right of Mohammad ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).s.), O Most High (Ali), by the right of Ali, O Creator (Fatir), by the right of Fatemah, O Benevolent (Mohsin), by the right of Hasan and Husain, and from you is goodness. When Prophet Adam uttered the name of Husain his eyes were filled with tears and his heart was pained. Adam told Jibra'eel,

 

"O brother Jibra'eel! When I take the name of the fifth one among them, my eyes get filled with tears and my heart gets shattered."

 

Jibra'eel replied, "This son of yours (Husain) will be sur­rounded by such afflictions that all other calamities will seem low and less when compared to it." Prophet Adam asked Jibra'eel as to what those afflictions would be, to which Jibra'eel replied, "He will be killed as a thirsty, forlorn and a lonely traveller. He will have no friend or helper. Would that you see him calling out: O thirst! O loneliness! and his thirst would spread between him and the heavens like smoke. No one will answer his call except the swords and the rain of death, and he will be butchered like a sheep from the back of his neck. And the enemies will rob the belongings from his tents, and his blessed head, while those of his companions, will be paraded on the points of lances in the cities in the midst of his (imprisoned) ladies. Thus it has been revealed in the knowl­edge of the Lord." Thus Prophet Adam and Jibra'eel both started weeping as a mother weeps over the loss of her son.

 

And it has been narrated from other trustworthy reports, that on the day of Eid, Imam Hasan ((عليه السلام).) and Imam Husain ((عليه السلام).) entered the house of their Grandfather the Prophet of Allah Mohammad ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).s.) and said,

 

"O grandfa­ther! Today is the day of Eid, and the children of Arabs have worn new and colourful clothes, while we do not have any new dress with us, hence we have come to you."

 

The Prophet pondered over their state and wept that he did not have a dress with him suitable for them, nor did he desire to send them disheartened and with a broken heart. He lifted his hands and prayed,

 

"O Allah! Make ammends for their and their mother's heart."

 

Suddenly Jibra'eel descended with two white dresses among the dresses of Paradise. The Prophet was overjoyed and said,

 

"O Masters of the youth of Paradise! Take these dresses which have been stitched by the tailor (from Allah) according to your sizes."

 

Both the Imams saw that the dresses were white in colour and hence said, "O Grandfather! These are of white colour, how can we wear it, when the children of Arabs have worn colourful clothes"?

 

The Prophet put his head down and started thinking about it when Jibra'eel said, "O Mohammad ((صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم).s.)! Rejoice and cool your eyes. The powerful dyer of the Divine colour will fulfil their desire and make them happy by those colours which they desire. Hence O Prophet, do order that a ewer and vessel be brought."

 

A vessel was brought and Jibra'eel said, "O Prophet of Allah! I shall pour water over these dresses and you wring them until the desired colour appears. The Prophet soaked the dress of Imam Hasan ((عليه السلام).) and said,

 

"Which colour do you desire"?

 

Imam Hasan ((عليه السلام).) replied that he preferred the green colour, to which the Prophet rubbed the dress with his own hands which turned into bright green colour similar to emeralds, by the will and command of Allah. He then handed it over to Imam Hasan ((عليه السلام).) who wore it. Then Jibra'eel took another dress and started pouring water in the vessel. The Prophet then turned towards Imam Husain ((عليه السلام).), who was of five years of age at that time, and asked, "O light of my eyes! Which colour do you desire"?

 

To which Husain replied that he preferred the red colour. The Prophet again rubbed the dress with his own blessed hands and it turned into bright red colour similar to rubies. He then handed it over to Imam Husain ((عليه السلام).) who wore it too. The Holy Prophet and both Imams were over­joyed and they returned back to their mother. When Jibra'eel saw this he started weeping. The Prophet said,

 

"O brother Jibra'eel! This is not the day to mourn, when my sons are rejoicing and are happy. By Allah! Please let me know the reason for your grief."

 

Jibra'eel replied, "I mourn because your sons have selected one colour each. As regards your son Hasan, he will be poisoned and because of it's effect his body will turn green. And as regards your other son Husain, be will be killed by swords and his head severed, while his body will be smeared with red blood." Hearing this the Prophet started weeping and his sorrow increased.

 

[16] Surah al Baraqah: 37.

(By razavi from NY)

Any arabic for these? Bihar is not a primary source - quote the authors book Barakallahu feek.

It seems this was copy and pasted from a 2003 SC thread, where users had pictures of tatbir scars on their back, named their accounts 'slave of Zahra' and SC appears to have been a cesspool of Ghuluw.

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The Messenger of Allah (صلى الله عليه وآله وسلم) then said, “O Juwayabir, Allah by means of Islam has removed those who were called noble in pre-Islamic time of darkness and ignorance and has honored them with Islam. To those who did not have any social position before Islam, Allah has granted honor as well as to those who were considered low in the time of ignorance. With Islam He has removed the pride of the time of ignorance and people’s expressing pride because of tribes and strong genealogy.

Today (we say) all people, white and black,

those from Quraysh, Arab, non- Arab

are all from Adam, and Adam was created by Allah from clay. The most beloved in the sight of Allah, most Majestic, most Glorious, on the Day of Judgment will be those who are most obedient to Him and most pious before Him"

Al-Kafi, Saheeh

https://thaqalayn.net/hadith/5/3/21/1

 

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On 2/19/2024 at 4:55 PM, Abu_Zahra said:

Racist posts have been removed. Further violations will result in a ban 

Some of the admins on here take this site way too serious. Please go outside and touch grass. Just cause you don't agree with something it doesn't make it wrong or bad.  Let people express their thoughts and views freely without you having a cry about it kthanks 

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6 hours ago, 123xo said:

Some of the admins on here take this site way too serious. Please go outside and touch grass. Just cause you don't agree with something it doesn't make it wrong or bad.  Let people express their thoughts and views freely without you having a cry about it kthanks 

Sister, you have made some excellent contributions here. But some statements you might genuinely not feel are racist, and you might yourself be the furtherest person to a racist, but they are in fact racist.

Nobody is judging your character, but it's more sincere advice to rethink.

It would be better to reflect and apologise.

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